End times?

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Cardinal

 :cloud9: Yeah, I got that.....lol
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor


eaglesway

Hello my Beloved brother!
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micah7:9

I pray all is well my friend Beloved Servant.


micah7:9

Really giving up is not really possible, yet my flesh tells me why not...to which my Spirit answers JESUS! Thankls

thinktank

Quote from: Cardinal on October 23, 2010, 07:02:46 PM
:cloud9: There is no rapture as it's being taught, and for another slant on this moon topic......my  :2c:.....the moon is representative of the law, as a lesser glory, which is why all the feasts were tied to the progression and revealing of the moon.

The law is as the bones that the body which is Spirit, comes out of and clothes with His glory, ie. corruption being swallowed up of incorruption. Blood in the natural is made in the marrow of the bones. That is why God told Satan he could not touch Job's bone, ie. because the life of Christ was in the bone, and Satan cannot touch Him unless the Father allows it.

The blood (Spirit of Christ) that was hidden in the bones that the law is, CAME OUT and was seen of all men in the person of Jesus the Christ. He kept the law perfectly in the Spirit, though He appeared to break it. This is why He (speaking as the Spirit) said, "Before Abraham was, I AM."

Jesus said He only spoke what He heard His Father speak, the Father is a SPIRIT, and all seeds bear fruit after their own kind, ie. the Son is a Spirit, encased in flesh that He glorified to show us the way back to the Father is the death, burial and resurrection. The gospel IS, the death, burial and resurrection of CHRIST.

We have known the death (outer court-lowered into the bondage of corruption), the burial (inner court-hid IN Christ), and are awaiting the resurrection (Holy of Holies-Son returns to the Father-hello, sons of God!). Blessings.....

What about the prophecy where God says that not one bone of his shall be broken. Is there any significance to this? I have faith and read it as that God protects, even the dead bones of his servants, so don't worry if ones body is destroyed.

But is there anything else you would like to add? since your talking about bones.

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Yes, that ties in. Not a bone of His was broken to mirror the fact He kept the law perfectly. And for more on bones.....the bones that had life in them when the boy was thrown on them, is because they had no FLESH on them, mirroring the spiritual state of the person's bones. I also shared some more on bones in the "Experiencing the Tabernacle" thread recently.

And the bones that Elijah prophesied to......to truly prophesy is to speak what God gives you to speak about any situation. It's the same Spirit that moved upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1, when released. The "root" of prophesy is to call those things that are not as though they were, and this is where walking in His authority comes in at.

I received the revelation that those bones were of the body of Christ that is alive NOW, the many membered body upon the face of the earth, BUT it is the one that has allowed Him to circumcize them of all flesh, and made them dry bones, because they were willing to lay their anointings, giftings and callings at His feet.

THEY are the ones that having died with Him, they shall be raised with Him, in the resurrection that takes place while still in the body. We were one with Him from the foundation of the earth (Alpha) and we shall be one with Him again totality while still in shoe leather (Omega). My  :2c: Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Lefein

Bones can only move by the power of the flesh in the natural.  Without the flesh, God must move them by giving His power and grace to the bones to move. 

Perfect alignment of wills in harmony.  :boyheart:

Beloved Servant


I do not see the connection.
Those bones started rattling without flesh. And it was "in the natural."


Lefein

Muscles move bones, without muscles (flesh - our own strength) we cannot move our own bones.

Beloved Servant

Quote from: Lefein on October 24, 2010, 09:44:13 PM
Bones can only move by the power of the flesh in the natural.  Without the flesh, God must move them by giving His power and grace to the bones to move. 

Perfect alignment of wills in harmony.  :boyheart:


God's Spirit moved those fleshless bones; in the natural.
There was no other will.

Lefein

You missed my point.  Nevermind.

Beloved Servant

Quote from: Lefein on October 24, 2010, 11:24:30 PM
You missed my point.  Nevermind.
:winkgrin:

                               

thinktank

And the bones that Elijah prophesied to......to truly prophesy is to speak what God gives you to speak about any situation. It's the same Spirit that moved upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1, when released. The "root" of prophesy is to call those things that are not as though they were, and this is where walking in His authority comes in at.

I received the revelation that those bones were of the body of Christ that is alive NOW, the many membered body upon the face of the earth, BUT it is the one that has allowed Him to circumcize them of all flesh, and made them dry bones, because they were willing to lay their anointings, giftings and callings at His feet.


I'm not denying what you said, maybe that scripture has a two fold purpose. One what you said and the other a literal resurection of the dead people of Israel. The people spoken of in Hebrews who did not recevie the promise and other Israelites who will be raised from the dead in a future age and I think the body of christ might be kings and queens over them, but I'm not sure if it we will be rulers over the Isrealites or the others, who are raised at some later date. Just one reason why I think we will be rulers, is the parable of christ when he said the 'well done faithfull servant you will be in charge over 5 cities'.
When it comes to the saving of all people im not so sure as most here, but I do believe that all Israelites will be saved as Paul says it plainly that all Israel will be saved and this vision of the bones shows them being raised from the dead from the house of Israel.



eaglesway

The hand of the LORD was upon me, and He brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me down in the middle of the valley; and it was full of bones. He caused me to pass among them round about, and behold, there were very many on the surface of the valley; and lo, they were very dry. He said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, You know." Again He said to me, "Prophesy over these bones and say to them, 'O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.' "Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones, 'Behold, I will cause breath to enter you that you may come to life. 'I will put sinews on you, make flesh grow back on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you that you may come alive; and you will know that I am the LORD.'" So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone. And I looked, and behold, sinews were on them, and flesh grew and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. Then He said to me, "Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they come to life."'" So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they came to life and stood on their feet, an exceedingly great army. Then He said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel; behold, they say, 'Our bones are dried up and our hope has perished. We are completely cut off.' "Therefore prophesy and say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I will open your graves and cause you to come up out of your graves, My people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel. "Then you will know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves and caused you to come up out of your graves, My people. "I will put My Spirit within you and you will come to life, and I will place you on your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken and done it," declares the LORD.'"
(Eze 37:1-14)

IMO there are several time transcendant truths that apply to all of the elect of God through history in Ezekiel's vision. The prophesy was to Israel at the time and it is to everyone throughout time who can enter His rest, "Today, if you hear His voice". The dry bones were scattered on the surface, they were not buried. This means to me the vision is to we who live now in time, generation by generation. "Awake O Sleeper and RISE FROM THE DEAD, and the light of Christ will shine on you." The testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy and the dry bones scattered on the ground in the valley are similar to the earth being without form and void and darkness covering the face of the deep as the Spirit hovers over the face of the waters. The body is like that chaos as yet unformed. We are like that army, all the pieces are here but there is no connection, covenant, union, harmony. We are not fitly joined together or growing according to God's design "through that which the joints and ligaments supply"(Col. 2). We need to HEAR HIS VOICE. Let the ones who have ears hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches. "Prophecy!".... "Let there be Light". Dry ground appears, creation begins, the form of Christ coming forth in the transformation of carnal men. "Light shall shine out  of darkness to reveal the gospel of the glory of God in the face of Christ". What once had no visible function or form begins to "ARISE AND WALK". The manchild forms in the womb of the Bride, but he has not yet breached and taken breath. The quickened and effectual word of God, that sharp two edged sword of the Spirit is bringing forth an army. "apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evengelists....until we all attain to the unity of the faith, unto a mature man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of the son of God." Once we stand together, the breath will enter. And they were all gathered together in one place as one soul ministering unto the Lord and and their was a sound as of a rushing mighty wind..... You shall receive power after the Holy Spirit has come upon you and you shall be witnesses unto me."
"No one when lighting a Lamp sets it under a bushel basket but rather sets it up on a lampstand so that it gives light into all who are in the house."

"I will live among them and walk among them and I will be their God and they shall be my people...... and all the nations will know that I am God."
The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. http://www.hell-is-a-myth.webs.com/