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#51
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Last post by Ross - April 04, 2026, 02:31:20 PMAwesome statements.
The flesh tries to claim personal effort for the the work done by Christ.
All these verses highlight the Lord as the ONLY WAY TO A BETTER LIFE WHICH WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BY HIM FOR ALL MANKIND.
The flesh tries to claim personal effort for the the work done by Christ.
All these verses highlight the Lord as the ONLY WAY TO A BETTER LIFE WHICH WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BY HIM FOR ALL MANKIND.
#52
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Last post by ghost kid - April 04, 2026, 11:57:35 AMhttps://www.tentmaker.org/articles/universalism-is-not-in-the-bible.htm
I got this from the above weblink:
MALACHI 3:2-3 Who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner's fire or a laundress's soap. He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver, he will purify the Levies and refine them like gold and silver. Then the Lord will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness. (NIV)
https://tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html#1
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HE IS A "REFINER'S FIRE"
He burns to purify. "He shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver." Could the melting metal feel, how might it misunderstand the process through which it is passing. The unrelenting fire burns beneath the crucible, and the dirty, unsightly ore becomes like liquid light, and circulates as useful coin, and sparkles on the fingers of happy brides, and shines on the sceptres of kings, and in the coronets of queens. And all because the severe and purifying fire of the refiner has tried it.
Inasmch as the consuming fire of God is refining, we learn that it only destroys the dross of sin, and leaves the spiritual gold, the immortal soul, unscathed and pure when its blessed work is finished.
What do you think?😀
tentmaker.org
Bible Threatenings Explained
I got this from the above weblink:
MALACHI 3:2-3 Who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner's fire or a laundress's soap. He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver, he will purify the Levies and refine them like gold and silver. Then the Lord will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness. (NIV)
https://tentmaker.org/books/BibleThreateningsExplained.html#1
I got this from the above weblink:
HE IS A "REFINER'S FIRE"
He burns to purify. "He shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver." Could the melting metal feel, how might it misunderstand the process through which it is passing. The unrelenting fire burns beneath the crucible, and the dirty, unsightly ore becomes like liquid light, and circulates as useful coin, and sparkles on the fingers of happy brides, and shines on the sceptres of kings, and in the coronets of queens. And all because the severe and purifying fire of the refiner has tried it.
Inasmch as the consuming fire of God is refining, we learn that it only destroys the dross of sin, and leaves the spiritual gold, the immortal soul, unscathed and pure when its blessed work is finished.
What do you think?😀
tentmaker.org
Bible Threatenings Explained
#53
Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: What do you think of this?...
Last post by Ross - March 27, 2026, 05:11:29 AMOne word can change the whole meaning, context, and that can start a lot of arguments which, throughout history, have led to wars.
#54
Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: What do you think of this?...
Last post by ghost kid - March 26, 2026, 11:53:04 PMQuote from: ghost kid on March 10, 2026, 02:06:30 PMhttps://tentmaker.org/books/150reasons.html
I got this from the above weblink:
122. All God?s works shall praise him. ?All thy works shall praise Thee, O Lord.? Psalm 145:10 Can ALL God?s works PRAISE HIM if a part are doomed to suffer, sin and blaspheme forever?
150. In the last book of the Bible, the writer, in a vision, says, ?EVERY CREATURE? which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I, saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb forever and ever.? Rev. 5:13. In the beginning man was pronounced by his Creator VERY GOOD ? every way adapted to the stage of action on which he was placed. The Revelator, by the help of God, saw all mankind raised to a higher state of existence, for which also they were created, and heard them blessing their creator for his infinite goodness, and adoring their Savior for redeeming love. Such was the beginning of our race, and such will be its glorious consummation. ?For God?s pleasure we are and were created.?
And
https://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/eternity.htm
I got this from the above weblink:
Once we understand that aion and all the compounds of that word denote time, how clear everything becomes! And how ridiculous the ignorant pratings of men! In an effort to harmonize the Scriptures with the false doctrines of the apostate Church, the translators rendered "the ages of the ages" as "for ever and ever." This one little mistake once and for all exposes their folly. Even in English we can see that "for ever" cannot be endless if "and ever" may be added to it. Eternity cannot be added to! Only time may be compounded. Eternity is absolute timelessness. Eternity is without either beginning or end. There cannot be more than one eternity. You cannot add a second eternity on to a first eternity. Forever in English means "for eternity; always; perpetually; endlessly." Now if "for ever" is "eternity" how can you add "and ever," attaching ANOTHER ETERNITY to an already existing eternity? That isn't even correct English grammar! Ah - but ages are time--and time, beloved, can be added to! When the Greek speaks of "the ages of the ages" it is speaking of aggregated periods of time - not eternity! And you cannot get eternity by compounding all the time periods of the past and the future, for time began and time ends. The ages and all the time and times combined do not equal eternity. There simply is no such thing as "the endless ages of eternity" as the preachers love to say, for the phrase is a complete contradiction of itself. No one who is sane and reasonable can maintain otherwise. To do so is to contradict all known facts and to contradict God's own Word.
This is my favorite!:)
#55
Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: What do you think of this?...
Last post by Ross - March 26, 2026, 02:13:53 AMMany verses like that.
Awesome.
Awesome.
#56
Discussions on Universal Salvation / What do you think of this?:
Last post by ghost kid - March 24, 2026, 04:14:41 PMhttps://tentmaker.org/books/150reasons.html
I got this from the above weblink:
139. "He (God) retaineth not his anger forever, because he delighteth in mercy." Micah 7:18. This declaration is altogether at variance with the doctrine of unending torments.
I got this from the above weblink:
139. "He (God) retaineth not his anger forever, because he delighteth in mercy." Micah 7:18. This declaration is altogether at variance with the doctrine of unending torments.
#57
Discussions on Universal Salvation / What do you think of this?:
Last post by ghost kid - March 24, 2026, 04:04:19 PMhttps://tentmaker.org/books/150reasons.html
I got this from the above weblink:
133. The Lord of heaven and earth says, "I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow and every tongue shall swear. Surely shall one say, IN THE LORD HAVE I RIGHTEOUSNESS AND STRENGTH. Isa. 45:23, 24. This passage needs no comment. The Almighty has sworn by himself because he could swear by no greater, that every tongue shall confess that in him they have righteousness. One would think this was enough to make the most unbelieving heart trust and rejoice in God.
I got this from the above weblink:
133. The Lord of heaven and earth says, "I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow and every tongue shall swear. Surely shall one say, IN THE LORD HAVE I RIGHTEOUSNESS AND STRENGTH. Isa. 45:23, 24. This passage needs no comment. The Almighty has sworn by himself because he could swear by no greater, that every tongue shall confess that in him they have righteousness. One would think this was enough to make the most unbelieving heart trust and rejoice in God.
#58
Discussions on Universal Salvation / Re: Satan will be saved?:
Last post by Ross - March 23, 2026, 02:05:21 PMSatan was created.
He is the prince of this age.
He could not go beyond parameters when attacking Job.
He was put there over the flesh.
He will be refined by God.
The lake of fire purifies and will be shut down at some point.
We, thanks to Christ, will be above him.
He is the prince of this age.
He could not go beyond parameters when attacking Job.
He was put there over the flesh.
He will be refined by God.
The lake of fire purifies and will be shut down at some point.
We, thanks to Christ, will be above him.
#59
Discussions on Universal Salvation / Satan will be saved?:
Last post by ghost kid - March 10, 2026, 05:37:02 PMhttps://tentmaker.org/FAQ/23.html
I got this from the weblink above:
Does this mean that satan and all the fallen angels will be restored eventually?
Read other FAQ's on ultimate reconciliation and Christian universalism
Question:
Does this mean that satan and all the fallen angels will be restored eventually?
Answer:
In the original language of Scripture, Hebrews 2:16 says, "God is not now laying hold of angels." So if He is not laying hold of them now, why should we? The present focus is on mankind. However, Colossians 1:15-20 does say all the invisible realm was made for Christ and is being reconciled through His cross. It would harmonize with God's character for our Good Shepherd-eventually at some future age-to lead His rebellious angels to repentance (Romans 8:19-23, Heb. 13:8). But apart from true heart-repentance, there can be NO salvation for anyone! I would caution against any kind of intercession on our part for fallen angels now. At present, we're in the midst of rescuing Adam's sons and daughters. We're plundering satan's prison-house, freeing all who have been "taken captive by him to do his will" (Luke 11:21-22, 2 Tim. 2:26).
Human wills, therefore, must first be made free (by the church's intercession and ministry) so they can respond to and receive Christ's light. Also, satan and his minions must first be judged and punished for their atrocities before we can sensibly think in terms of their eventual rehabilitation. See Andrew Jukes' Restitution of All Things mentioned in the reading list for more exposition of Scripture on this subject. His long-time bestseller, The Names of God, is still available in most bookstores. It's an excellent study of God's character. (Keep your Kleenex box handy! This book so tenderly reveals the heart of our wonderful Lord as shown in Scripture you'll probably cry a lot!)
Charles Slagle
Read other FAQ's on ultimate reconciliation and Christian universalism
Tentmaker
I got this from the weblink above:
Does this mean that satan and all the fallen angels will be restored eventually?
Read other FAQ's on ultimate reconciliation and Christian universalism
Question:
Does this mean that satan and all the fallen angels will be restored eventually?
Answer:
In the original language of Scripture, Hebrews 2:16 says, "God is not now laying hold of angels." So if He is not laying hold of them now, why should we? The present focus is on mankind. However, Colossians 1:15-20 does say all the invisible realm was made for Christ and is being reconciled through His cross. It would harmonize with God's character for our Good Shepherd-eventually at some future age-to lead His rebellious angels to repentance (Romans 8:19-23, Heb. 13:8). But apart from true heart-repentance, there can be NO salvation for anyone! I would caution against any kind of intercession on our part for fallen angels now. At present, we're in the midst of rescuing Adam's sons and daughters. We're plundering satan's prison-house, freeing all who have been "taken captive by him to do his will" (Luke 11:21-22, 2 Tim. 2:26).
Human wills, therefore, must first be made free (by the church's intercession and ministry) so they can respond to and receive Christ's light. Also, satan and his minions must first be judged and punished for their atrocities before we can sensibly think in terms of their eventual rehabilitation. See Andrew Jukes' Restitution of All Things mentioned in the reading list for more exposition of Scripture on this subject. His long-time bestseller, The Names of God, is still available in most bookstores. It's an excellent study of God's character. (Keep your Kleenex box handy! This book so tenderly reveals the heart of our wonderful Lord as shown in Scripture you'll probably cry a lot!)
Charles Slagle
Read other FAQ's on ultimate reconciliation and Christian universalism
Tentmaker
#60
Discussions on Universal Salvation / What do you think of this?:
Last post by ghost kid - March 10, 2026, 02:06:30 PM https://tentmaker.org/books/150reasons.html
I got this from the above weblink:
122. All God?s works shall praise him. ?All thy works shall praise Thee, O Lord.? Psalm 145:10 Can ALL God?s works PRAISE HIM if a part are doomed to suffer, sin and blaspheme forever?
150. In the last book of the Bible, the writer, in a vision, says, ?EVERY CREATURE? which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I, saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb forever and ever.? Rev. 5:13. In the beginning man was pronounced by his Creator VERY GOOD ? every way adapted to the stage of action on which he was placed. The Revelator, by the help of God, saw all mankind raised to a higher state of existence, for which also they were created, and heard them blessing their creator for his infinite goodness, and adoring their Savior for redeeming love. Such was the beginning of our race, and such will be its glorious consummation. ?For God?s pleasure we are and were created.?
And
https://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/eternity.htm
I got this from the above weblink:
Once we understand that aion and all the compounds of that word denote time, how clear everything becomes! And how ridiculous the ignorant pratings of men! In an effort to harmonize the Scriptures with the false doctrines of the apostate Church, the translators rendered "the ages of the ages" as "for ever and ever." This one little mistake once and for all exposes their folly. Even in English we can see that "for ever" cannot be endless if "and ever" may be added to it. Eternity cannot be added to! Only time may be compounded. Eternity is absolute timelessness. Eternity is without either beginning or end. There cannot be more than one eternity. You cannot add a second eternity on to a first eternity. Forever in English means "for eternity; always; perpetually; endlessly." Now if "for ever" is "eternity" how can you add "and ever," attaching ANOTHER ETERNITY to an already existing eternity? That isn't even correct English grammar! Ah - but ages are time--and time, beloved, can be added to! When the Greek speaks of "the ages of the ages" it is speaking of aggregated periods of time - not eternity! And you cannot get eternity by compounding all the time periods of the past and the future, for time began and time ends. The ages and all the time and times combined do not equal eternity. There simply is no such thing as "the endless ages of eternity" as the preachers love to say, for the phrase is a complete contradiction of itself. No one who is sane and reasonable can maintain otherwise. To do so is to contradict all known facts and to contradict God's own Word.
https://tentmaker.org/FAQ/ForceOrFreeWill.html
I got this from the above weblink:
29) Rev 5:13 All creation seen praising God Including Satan?
I got this from the above weblink:
122. All God?s works shall praise him. ?All thy works shall praise Thee, O Lord.? Psalm 145:10 Can ALL God?s works PRAISE HIM if a part are doomed to suffer, sin and blaspheme forever?
150. In the last book of the Bible, the writer, in a vision, says, ?EVERY CREATURE? which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I, saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb forever and ever.? Rev. 5:13. In the beginning man was pronounced by his Creator VERY GOOD ? every way adapted to the stage of action on which he was placed. The Revelator, by the help of God, saw all mankind raised to a higher state of existence, for which also they were created, and heard them blessing their creator for his infinite goodness, and adoring their Savior for redeeming love. Such was the beginning of our race, and such will be its glorious consummation. ?For God?s pleasure we are and were created.?
And
https://www.tentmaker.org/articles/savior-of-the-world/eternity.htm
I got this from the above weblink:
Once we understand that aion and all the compounds of that word denote time, how clear everything becomes! And how ridiculous the ignorant pratings of men! In an effort to harmonize the Scriptures with the false doctrines of the apostate Church, the translators rendered "the ages of the ages" as "for ever and ever." This one little mistake once and for all exposes their folly. Even in English we can see that "for ever" cannot be endless if "and ever" may be added to it. Eternity cannot be added to! Only time may be compounded. Eternity is absolute timelessness. Eternity is without either beginning or end. There cannot be more than one eternity. You cannot add a second eternity on to a first eternity. Forever in English means "for eternity; always; perpetually; endlessly." Now if "for ever" is "eternity" how can you add "and ever," attaching ANOTHER ETERNITY to an already existing eternity? That isn't even correct English grammar! Ah - but ages are time--and time, beloved, can be added to! When the Greek speaks of "the ages of the ages" it is speaking of aggregated periods of time - not eternity! And you cannot get eternity by compounding all the time periods of the past and the future, for time began and time ends. The ages and all the time and times combined do not equal eternity. There simply is no such thing as "the endless ages of eternity" as the preachers love to say, for the phrase is a complete contradiction of itself. No one who is sane and reasonable can maintain otherwise. To do so is to contradict all known facts and to contradict God's own Word.
https://tentmaker.org/FAQ/ForceOrFreeWill.html
I got this from the above weblink:
29) Rev 5:13 All creation seen praising God Including Satan?