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[Beloved Servant]

Everyday is fiiled with hope...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X43XXpItGk0

[Molly]

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.



Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.



--US Constitution, Bill of Rights




This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

--US Constitution, Article VI

[WhiteWings]

Does anyone has some info about the northern light seen above Washington a few hows before the snowstorm?

[Akira Takahashi]

It Is Now Official: The U.S. Is a Police State
by Paul Craig Roberts


Americans have been losing the protection of law for years. In the 21st century the loss of legal protections accelerated with the Bush administration's "war on terror," which continues under the Obama administration and is essentially a war on the Constitution and U.S. civil liberties.

The Bush regime was determined to vitiate habeas corpus in order to hold people indefinitely without bringing charges. The regime had acquired hundreds of prisoners by paying a bounty for "terrorists." Afghan warlords and thugs responded to the financial incentive by grabbing unprotected people and selling them to the Americans.

The Bush regime needed to hold the prisoners without charges because it had no evidence against the people and did not want to admit that the U.S. government had stupidly paid warlords and thugs to kidnap innocent people. In addition, the Bush regime needed "terrorists" prisoners in order to prove that there was a terrorist threat.


As there was no evidence against the "detainees" (most have been released without charges after years of detention and abuse), the U.S. government needed a way around U.S. and international laws against torture in order that the government could produce evidence via self-incrimination. The Bush regime found inhumane and totalitarian-minded lawyers and put them to work at the U.S. Department of Justice (sic) to invent arguments that the Bush regime did not need to obey the law.

The Bush regime created a new classification for its detainees that it used to justify denying legal protection and due process to the detainees. As the detainees were not U.S. citizens and were demonized by the regime as "the 760 most dangerous men on earth," there was little public outcry over the regime's unconstitutional and inhumane actions.

As our Founding Fathers and a long list of scholars warned, once civil liberties are breached, they are breached for all. Soon U.S. citizens were being held indefinitely in violation of their habeas corpus rights. Dr. Aafia Siddiqui an American citizen of Pakistani origin might have been the first.


Dr. Siddiqui, a scientist educated at MIT and Brandeis University, was seized in Pakistan for no known reason, sent to Afghanistan, and was held secretly for five years in the U.S. military's notorious Bagram prison in Afghanistan. Her three young children were with her at the time she was abducted, one an eight-month old baby. She has no idea what has become of her two youngest children. Her oldest child, 7 years old, was also incarcerated in Bagram and subjected to similar abuse and horrors.

Siddiqui has never been charged with any terrorism-related offense. A British journalist, hearing her piercing screams as she was being tortured, disclosed her presence. An embarrassed U.S. government responded to the disclosure by sending Siddiqui to the U.S. for trial on the trumped-up charge that while a captive, she grabbed a U.S. soldier's rifle and fired two shots attempting to shoot him. The charge apparently originated as a U.S. soldier's excuse for shooting Dr. Siddiqui twice in the stomach resulting in her near death.

On February 4, Dr. Siddiqui was convicted by a New York jury for attempted murder. The only evidence presented against her was the charge itself and an unsubstantiated claim that she had once taken a pistol-firing course at an American firing range. No evidence was presented of her fingerprints on the rifle that this frail and broken 100-pound woman had allegedly seized from an American soldier. No evidence was presented that a weapon was fired, no bullets, no shell casings, no bullet holes. Just an accusation.


Wikipedia has this to say about the trial: "The trial took an unusual turn when an FBI official asserted that the fingerprints taken from the rifle, which was purportedly used by Aafia to shoot at the U.S. interrogators, did not match hers."

An ignorant and bigoted American jury convicted her for being a Muslim. This is the kind of "justice" that always results when the state hypes fear and demonizes a group.

The people who should have been on trial are the people who abducted her, disappeared her young children, shipped her across international borders, violated her civil liberties, tortured her apparently for the fun of it, raped her, and attempted to murder her with two gunshots to her stomach. Instead, the victim was put on trial and convicted.

This is the unmistakable hallmark of a police state. And this victim is an American citizen.

Anyone can be next. Indeed, on February 3 Dennis Blair, director of National Intelligence told the House Intelligence Committee that it was now "defined policy" that the U.S. government can murder its own citizens on the sole basis of someone in the government's judgment that an American is a threat. No arrest, no trial, no conviction, just execution on suspicion of being a threat.

This shows how far the police state has advanced. A presidential appointee in the Obama administration tells an important committee of Congress that the executive branch has decided that it can murder American citizens abroad if it thinks they are a threat.


I can hear readers saying the government might as well kill Americans abroad as it kills them at home – Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Black Panthers.

Yes, the U.S. government has murdered its citizens, but Dennis Blair's "defined policy" is a bold new development. The government, of course, denies that it intended to kill the Branch Davidians, Randy Weaver's wife and child, or the Black Panthers. The government says that Waco was a terrible tragedy, an unintended result brought on by the Branch Davidians themselves. The government says that Ruby Ridge was Randy Weaver's fault for not appearing in court on a day that had been miscommunicated to him, The Black Panthers, the government says, were dangerous criminals who insisted on a shoot-out.

In no previous death of a U.S. citizen by the hands of the U.S. government has the government claimed the right to kill Americans without arrest, trial, and conviction of a capital crime.

In contrast, Dennis Blair has told the U.S. Congress that the executive branch has assumed the right to murder Americans who it deems a "threat."

What defines "threat"? Who will make the decision? What it means is that the government will murder whomever it chooses.

There is no more complete or compelling evidence of a police state than the government announcing that it will murder its own citizens if it views them as a "threat."

Ironic, isn't it, that "the war on terror" to make us safe ends in a police state with the government declaring the right to murder American citizens who it regards as a threat.


February 10, 2010

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts279.html

[Molly]

Ironic, isn't it, that "the war on terror" to make us safe ends in a police state with the government declaring the right to murder American citizens who it regards as a threat.

Some would argue that it is not irony, but that it was always the intent.  This 'war on terror' allows them to effectively destroy our Bill of Rights which has been a terror to the globalists since the day it was written.  Our Constitution makes each American citizen a sovereign, with God given rights that cannot be abridged or denied.  We need to demand a repeal of the 'Patriot Act' and all other laws that would place citizens at the mercy of a government gone out of control--military tribunal acts, denying habeas corpus, whatever Constitution-busting laws they have enacted since 911.  And, we need to demand an open and thorough investigation of 911, under subpoena, with protection for whistleblowers, with real science, that will satisfy the families of the victims and the American public.  Otherwise, we are looking at another 40 years of JFK assassination nonsense--where the evidence was deliberately hidden, destroyed, and misstated--or worse.  A free society, just like a healthy family, cannot live with dysfunctional secrets, or any secrets at all.




A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference.
--Thomas Jefferson

[ducktapehero]

If anyone thinks that George Bush is the 1st president that has abused the Constitution then they need to look at history a bit more. He was just another in a LONG line.

[WhiteWings]

Yep, it already started (long before) cowboy Ronnie.

[Molly]

Then it makes it even more remarkable that they have never fully succeeded.  Does each generation have to rediscover for itself the precious gift of liberty given by God?  And learn how to fight within the parameters of their own history to preserve it?  Is this what the 1000 year reign of Christ looks like?  Dark forces surrounding a city of light but always, finally, held at bay? 




"All this will not be finished in the first 100 days, nor in the first one thousand days, nor in the life of this administration.  Nor even perhaps in our lifetime on this planet.  But let us begin."

--John F. Kennedy, Inaugural address

[noname]

Then it makes it even more remarkable that they have never fully succeeded.  Does each generation have to rediscover for itself the precious gift of liberty given by God?  And learn how to fight within the parameters of their own history to preserve it?  Is this what the 1000 year reign of Christ looks like?  Dark forces surrounding a city of light but always, finally, held at bay? 

maybe this is exactly how "the overcomers" are chosen from each generation to one day rule with Christ in the age to come?
all of humanity given a chance to choose the Kingdom or Babylon

[Molly]

11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.

--Eph 5



3 Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things that you have not known.

--Jer 33



he gives wisdom to the wise
   and knowledge to those who have understanding;

22 He explains deep and hidden things.
      He knows what happens in the darkest places.
      And where he is, everything is light.

--Dan 2



26 "So don't be afraid of your enemies. Everything that is secret will be brought out into the open. Everything that is hidden will be uncovered. 27 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight. What is whispered in your ear, shout from the rooftops.

--Mat 10

[Molly]

Of the world's 100 largest economic entities, 51 are now corporations and 49 are countries.
December 2000


GDP / sales ($mil)

1 United States 8,708,870.00
2 Japan 4,395,083.00
3 Germany 2,081,202.00
4 France 1,410,262.00
5 United Kingdom 1,373,612.00
6 Italy 1,149,958.00
7 China 1,149,814.00
8 Brazil 760,345.00
9 Canada 612,049.00
10 Spain 562,245.00
11 Mexico 474,951.00
12 India 459,765.00
13 Korea, Rep. 406,940.00
14 Australia 389,691.00
15 Netherlands 384,766.00
16 Russian Federation 375,345.00
17 Argentina 281,942.00
18 Switzerland 260,299.00
19 Belgium 245,706.00
20 Sweden 226,388.00
21 Austria 208,949.00
22 Turkey 188,374.00
23 General Motors 176,558.00
24 Denmark 174,363.00
25 Wal-Mart 166,809.00
26 Exxon Mobil 163,881.00
27 Ford Motor 162,558.00
28 DaimlerChrysler 159,985.70
29 Poland 154,146.00
30 Norway 145,449.00
31 Indonesia 140,964.00
32 South Africa 131,127.00
33 Saudi Arabia 128,892.00
34 Finland 126,130.00
35 Greece 123,934.00
36 Thailand 123,887.00
37 Mitsui 118,555.20
38 Mitsubishi 117,765.60
39 Toyota Motor 115,670.90
40 General Electric 111,630.00
41 Itochu 109,068.90
42 Portugal 107,716.00
43 Royal Dutch/Shell 105,366.00
44 Venezuela 103,918.00
45 Iran, Islamic rep. 101,073.00
46 Israel 99,068.00
47 Sumitomo 95,701.60
48 Nippon Tel & Tel 93,591.70
49 Egypt, Arab Republic 92,413.00
50 Marubeni 91,807.40
51 Colombia 88,596.00
52 AXA 87,645.70
53 IBM 87,548.00
54 Singapore 84,945.00
55 Ireland 84,861.00
56 BP Amoco 83,556.00
57 Citigroup 82,005.00
58 Volkswagen 80,072.70
59 Nippon Life Insurance 78,515.10
60 Philippines 75,350.00
61 Siemens 75,337.00
62 Malaysia 74,634.00
63 Allianz 74,178.20
64 Hitachi 71,858.50
65 Chile 71,092.00
66 Matsucrapa Electric Ind. 65,555.60
67 Nissho Iwai 65,393.20
68 ING Group 62,492.40
69 AT&T 62,391.00
70 Philip Morris 61,751.00
71 Sony 60,052.70
72 Pakistan 59,880.00
73 Deutsche Bank 58,585.10
74 Boeing 57,993.00
75 Peru 57,318.00
76 Czech Republic 56,379.00
77 Dai-Ichi Mutual Life Ins. 55,104.70
78 Honda Motor 54,773.50
79 Assicurazioni Generali 53,723.20
80 Nissan Motor 53,679.90
81 New Zealand 53,622.00
82 E.On 52,227.70
83 Toshiba 51,634.90
84 Bank of America 51,392.00
85 Fiat 51,331.70
86 Nestle 49,694.10
87 SBC Communications 49,489.00
88 Credit Suisse 49,362.00
89 Hungary 48,355.00
90 Hewlett-Packard 48,253.00
91 Fujitsu 47,195.90
92 Algeria 47,015.00
93 Metro 46,663.60
94 Sumitomo Life Insur. 46,445.10
95 Bangladesh 45,779.00
96 Tokyo Electric Power 45,727.70
97 Kroger 45,351.60
98 Total Fina Elf 44,990.30
99 NEC 44,828.00
100 State Farm Insurance 44,637.20


http://www.corporations.org/system/top100.html

Sources: Sales: Fortune, July 31, 2000. GDP: World Bank, World Development Report 2000.

[WhiteWings]

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
OPINION EUROPE
DECEMBER 8, 2009, 7:20 P.M. ET
The Tip of the Climategate Iceberg
The global-warming scandal is bigger than one email leak.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=7db3fbd8-f1b4-4fdf-bd15-12b7df1a0b63

[Molly]

32And he said, Oh let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake.

--Gen 18



14if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

2Chron 7

[Molly]

ww?  what's going on?


Dutch Gov't Collapses Over Differences on Afghanistan
Saturday, February 20, 2010



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587021,00.html?test=latestnews

[WhiteWings]

Politics.

We have about 10 parties in what your would call the congress.
None have a majority so usally there is a coalition to reach the needed 51%.
That coalistion are a handful people that can be compared to Obama and ministers.
The coalition was never a good marriage. Part leftwing and part center.
The leftwing was against the war. The center not. The leftwing has no spine and polls show they halved.
What exactly happend is still not clear. The centerwing minsiter was of foreign affairs.
The UN asked if we would extent our mission in Afganistan for another few years.
Left blames center to trick them in extending the mission by letting teh UN write that letter.
Center blames left for showing some spine for electoral gains.
And then the mud slinging starts.

The article is mostly correct. The agreement never was never to completly withdraw. Troops yes. But still support like training and F16's. But that suddenly was of the table. But it's far moe complicated. Then never really got along. This was just a trigger. And "the congress" did it's uttermost best to let things escalate even more.

BTW that Harry Potter look-a-like is  a Calvinist....

http://costofwar.com/

[Molly]

http://costofwar.com/

Yeah, now we need another website on who's making the profits.




Secretly each nation is studying and perfecting newer and ghastlier means of annihilating its foes wholesale. Yes, ships will continue to be built, for the shipbuilders must make their profits. And guns still will be manufactured and powder and rifles will be made, for the munitions makers must make their huge profits. And the soldiers, of course, must wear uniforms, for the manufacturer must make their war profits too.

But victory or defeat will be determined by the skill and ingenuity of our scientists.

If we put them to work making poison gas and more and more fiendish mechanical and explosive instruments of destruction, they will have no time for the constructive job of building greater prosperity for all peoples. By putting them to this useful job, we can all make more money out of peace than we can out of war – even the munitions makers.

So...I say,

TO HELL WITH WAR!"

--"War is a Racket," General Smedley Butler

[WhiteWings]

But victory or defeat will be determined by the skill and ingenuity of our scientists.

If we put them to work making poison gas and more and more fiendish mechanical and explosive instruments of destruction, they will have no time for the constructive job of building greater prosperity for all peoples. By putting them to this useful job, we can all make more money out of peace than we can out of war – even the munitions makers.

Peace sells, but who is buying?

[Molly]

But victory or defeat will be determined by the skill and ingenuity of our scientists.

If we put them to work making poison gas and more and more fiendish mechanical and explosive instruments of destruction, they will have no time for the constructive job of building greater prosperity for all peoples. By putting them to this useful job, we can all make more money out of peace than we can out of war – even the munitions makers.

Peace sells, but who is buying?

No one knows it's an option.


Revelation 12:9
,,,Satan, which deceiveth the whole world...

[WhiteWings]

The problem is that it requires absolute trust.
Question: Molly, assume you are the president of the USA. Perhaps also or Russia and the EU. Would try to convince the world to disarm? And if all would have agreed, would you really disarm? Or would you keep a nice stash of goodies 'just in case'...?

[Molly]

The problem is that it requires absolute trust.
Question: Molly, assume you are the president of the USA. Perhaps also or Russia and the EU. Would try to convince the world to disarm? And if all would have agreed, would you really disarm? Or would you keep a nice stash of goodies 'just in case'...?

You don't have to disarm.  Just not use the weapons.

We won't disarm until Christ returns, IMO.

But, just having the weapon is a great determent, against tyrants as well as rogue countries.



German Firearms Act of 1937:
"No civilian is to have a firearm without a permit and permits will not be issued to [persons] suspected of acting against the state. For Jews this permission will not be granted. Those people who do not require permission to purchase or carry weapons [include] the whole SS and SA, including the Death's Head group and officers of the Hitler Youth." [Kates, Restricting Handguns pg. 185, 1979]

Adolph Hitler:
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so." April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Tischegesprache Im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1942, [Hitler's Table-Talk at the Fuhrer's Headquarters 1941-1942], Dr. Henry Picker, ed. (Athenaum-Verlag, Bonn, 1951); The original source is notes taken by Hitler associate Martin Bormann, a document called Bormann-Vermerke.

Heinrich Himmler:
"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA-- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State."

[WhiteWings]

The problem is that it requires absolute trust.
Question: Molly, assume you are the president of the USA. Perhaps also or Russia and the EU. Would try to convince the world to disarm? And if all would have agreed, would you really disarm? Or would you keep a nice stash of goodies 'just in case'...?

You don't have to disarm.  Just not use the weapons.

Secretly each nation is studying and perfecting newer and ghastlier means of annihilating its foes wholesale. Yes, ships will continue to be built, for the shipbuilders must make their profits. And guns still will be manufactured and powder and rifles will be made, for the munitions makers must make their huge profits. And the soldiers, of course, must wear uniforms, for the manufacturer must make their war profits too.

If you don't disarm you stay in the arms race. Letting your army outdate is slowly disarming. But, yes, it's cheaper that actually fighting a war with them.

[Molly]

If you don't disarm you stay in the arms race. Letting your army outdate is slowly disarming. But, yes, it's cheaper that actually fighting a war with them.

Unfortunately, I think that whenever there is a discrepancy of power between any two entities, the more powerful will be irresistably tempted to subordinate the less powerful.  It's the carnal nature of man, I guess.

Jesus is the only one I know for whom that principle didn't apply.


Actually, the NewWorldOrder would like to disarm all the nations and all the peoples of all the nations because there will be no more nations when they take over, just their world military group, in their view.  But, the Bible shows the nations existing even in the last chapter of Revelation.  So, I don't see them being successful.

[WhiteWings]

Exactly. Armies both make and prevent war. But in either case the scientists from your quote are needed. Stuff needs to be build in peace time. Not during attack.
So my quote should be: Peace sells but noone is stupid enough to buy.  :sigh:

[Molly]

Exactly. Armies both make and prevent war. But in either case the scientists from your quote are needed. Stuff needs to be build in peace time. Not during attack.
So my quote should be: Peace sells but noone is stupid enough to buy.  :sigh:

I added more to my post above.

Science has been co-opted for the past hundred years.  They are not even subtle about it anymore.  Can you imagine a President visiting MIT and telling the scientists how to do their job?  Could science be any more politicized than Climategate?  But, see, the government has all the money and gives grants to those who do their bidding.  And, the people have no idea what is going on.

Tesla's dream was to give electricity [for free] to all the peoples of the world.  And, he would have succeeded if not for J. P. Morgan and his buds.


"I do believe that a consensus is growing," he [Obama] said. Those still unpersuaded, he said in a speech at Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), were outside the mainstream.

"The naysayers, the folks who would pretend that this is not an issue, they are being marginalised," Obama said. "The closer we get, the harder the opposition will fight and the more we'll hear from those whose interests or ideology run counter to the much-needed action that we're engaged in."



This literally left me speechless.  I just have one word--HUBRIS.


At least he told us--science has become an 'ideology' based on self 'interest.'