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[Molly]

Don't ask me. I'm no teacher.....  :winkgrin:

I have a view on it. But that's a very slippery slope because it for example also means God had mass murder, rape and satanism in mind....
Anyway. God saw the future at creation. He still created as He created while He had the power to do things differently. So the answer is yes.
Whoops :mblush:

To my mind, it's just the maturing of the wheat and the tares.

Evil has never before been so obvious to me as it is in this day.

Ok. But that doesn't change my point/view. A all powerful God could have created a world without tars. But He didn't.

  He didn't because he obviously has a plan, which I suspect has to do with --He wants us to know how and why we love him with all our being.

That's why I keep telling you I can't wait another 20 years. :icon_king:

Sorry to inform you of this Molly but for you it will be 12 October 3011  :winkgrin:

I was hoping more for 28 Sept, 2011 at midnight.  But to you he will come as a thief in the night. :icon_king:

[Molly]

  I watched a documentary on that a few years ago.Basically they are eradica ting all natural strains of seed and going to monopolize the worlds food supply.

   Mexico,a world reservoir of ancient corn,pure strains..is vey concerned of contamination by the genetical engineered  strains.

    It is falling from seed bags along the road and contaminating their pure strains.The corn looks very malformed,freaky

They think they are so brilliant, patenting the world's food supply.

Who would think of this, if not Satan?

[micah7:9]

Don't ask me. I'm no teacher.....  :winkgrin:

I have a view on it. But that's a very slippery slope because it for example also means God had mass murder, rape and satanism in mind....
Anyway. God saw the future at creation. He still created as He created while He had the power to do things differently. So the answer is yes.
Whoops :mblush:

HE puts forth the circumstance for situations to be worked out by our human/carnal frame and how mans heart/mind will choose
as for the right or wrong such as rape, murder, or kindness or helping life. No God did not have mass murder on His mind, but He knew how the breathing creature would work and it would not all be for the good. Man will chose evil or good depending on what situation man is in at the time. He would not have done anything, nothing differently.

[WhiteWings]

  I watched a documentary on that a few years ago.Basically they are eradica ting all natural strains of seed and going to monopolize the worlds food supply.

   Mexico,a world reservoir of ancient corn,pure strains..is vey concerned of contamination by the genetical engineered  strains.

    It is falling from seed bags along the road and contaminating their pure strains.The corn looks very malformed,freaky

They think they are so brilliant, patenting the world's food supply.

Let's hope they don't make gentech manna :winkgrin:
They are not only patenting the food supply but also are reducing it. The USA already lost many acres of farmland because of that mutated pig weed that even damages heavy farming equipment. Just guess how that would work out for the 3rd wiorld farmers that only have a rusted shovel....

Who would think of this, if not Satan?

I think they serve the god of deep pockets.
Gentech can be a good thing. But they use it for bad. For example there is good progress with crops growing on salty soil. So they can be watered with sea water. That could be very useful for some countries.

[eaglesway]

Centralization through corporate penetration of public institutions for the profit of the oligarchy is the devil.

[micah7:9]

Could God, the I AM, Almighty Lord and God have layed out a plan for His creation that allowed for all the mishaps and befalls that have come upon the world? Do you think that The Creator did not know of volcanos, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes that would continue to push back mans enormous growth? I think not, He is in charge, in control, He KNOWS ALL THINGS.

And one of the faith and the walk needs to re-enforce his knowledge that it is the I AM who is deterimning the out come not the adversary.

[thinktank]

Ezekiel 33:11
Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Ezekiel 18:32
For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

I still see God wanting to save people from natural disaster even when he knows before hand.

[eaglesway]

If the salt has lost its savor(preserving power and flavor) it is no longer good for anything but to be cast out under the feet of men. The fire of God is in the eyes of Jesus and a two edged sword comes out of His mouth. We are being transformed into the same image. The enemies are not yet all subjected. As Jesus said, "Go tell Herod, that fox"..... and "You are blind leaders of the blind" and "Woe unto you, Pharisees, hypocrites".  There is a proper place for reproof, warning and tearing the cover off of wickedness, it is a part of the preisthood and discipleship we have received in Jesus.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Just playing out the curse of mingled seed in the natural reallm. What is going on in the spiritual realms has to be played out for all to see in the natural realms. My  :2c:

[Nathan]

I'd take that a step further and say what's happening in the natural realm is already finished in the spiritual realm.  It's just that "this" realm is bound by the natural laws, time being the biggest one.  But Spirit is outside of the grasp of both time "and" reasoning.  That's why we truly "can" enter into a 1000 year reign with Christ NOW because it's not about a measurement of time, instead it's about an intimate relationship with Christ.  He "is"  the 1000 year reign . . .but as they say, to those who still choose to "wait" for it to literally unfold . . .let them wait.

[eaglesway]

I think some things "play out" while some must be "lived out" by someone. The prophets were very involved in speaking to the specifics of  the corrupt ways of men. They payed the ultimate price for their "speaking" which came out of the "logos". Let there be light, light out of darkness, division of chaos into order and harmony by "speaking". In every age the light shines in the darkness and the darkness cannot overcome it.... even as Jesus spoke specifically to the ways in which the Jews and the Romans used power to oppress people. Woe to you lawyers and Pharisees.!

IMO, if, as we fathom out the secrets of God,  it does not translate into an invasive expression of light into the darkness of men, accompanied by practical, earthly, ministrations of food, kindness, warmth, healing- it is as James said, "Worthless". Or as Jesus said, " I was hungry and you did not feed me, I was sick and you did not visit me, I was naked and you did not clothe me- Depart from me you lawless ones(law of love violators), I never knew you!"

[sheila]

last six weeks or so,I have been on a 'google' search.   signs of the times,site,believers underground,earth changes etc....and what is happening is a real

  eye opener..of the state of things. If you had said,'this world is corrupt' to me..then I would have said..'I know this world is corrupt' It's like seeing only

  the tip of an ice-berg....then have it's full size come into veiw.   the sheer enormity of  it all..left me somewhat 'shell-shocked' for awhile..the precariousness

  of life on this planet..in the natural.   My final conclusion? by the power and grace of God alone does this planet exist. Constellations clashing,asteroids

  whizzing by....post-glacier rebound...corruption,greed and malice between nations...there's an island of Africa ready to slide into the sea[LaPalma] that

  could devestae the eastern seaboard with a tsunami[and it's become active in that are with volcanoes]

   I live in the New Madrid....Fema has already stockpiles supplies for the big quake coming,lot'sof bodybags readied,blankets,mre's and bottled water..the government

  is preparing for mega-death scenario's.


   

[jabcat]

   I live in the New Madrid

(I grew up in New Madrid County, now live about 40 miles south of St. Louis :)

[thinktank]

I'm amazed at how mainstream these conspiracies and news have become. I just saw a man say on national tv, that there was no moon landing and also saw a scientist of some sort say president met up with aliens, and said this is public documents. It was kind of weird hearing this stuff on national tv, almost as if, I have heard it before a million times, but yet not  :dontknow:. I wonder what the public make of this stuff, it seems to be a zombie reaction these days, where somebody could say I invented time travel and there would be blank stares, it seems these type of conspiracy theories are no longer shocking, such is the state of crazy things of todays society, where anything goes.


Also seen a political woman talk about recession could cause world war.

I find it is no longer the case that, there is hush hush and cover ups about these things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63FNwo0ysi4&feature=g-vrec

[sheila]

well....He said there was nothing hidden that would not be revealed. Somehow, I didn't fathom this kind of stuff. Also, many would go to and fro..and

  knowledge would increase[but I didn't fathom this kind of stuff.][I thought spiritual,and that is true too/mixed seed like Card says]


   Jabcat, I live in southwestern Indiana,Rose lives about 80miles south-west of me.

[redhotmagma]

:cloud9: Just playing out the curse of mingled seed in the natural reallm. What is going on in the spiritual realms has to be played out for all to see in the natural realms. My  :2c:

What do you mean by the mingled seed?  I've seen this on a hebrew roots website, and they're talking about nephilim coming back as aliens and deceiving the nations with a literal beast/antichrist, that is a hybrid.

[eaglesway]

last six weeks or so,I have been on a 'google' search.   signs of the times,site,believers underground,earth changes etc....and what is happening is a real

  eye opener..of the state of things. If you had said,'this world is corrupt' to me..then I would have said..'I know this world is corrupt' It's like seeing only

  the tip of an ice-berg....then have it's full size come into veiw.   the sheer enormity of  it all..left me somewhat 'shell-shocked' for awhile..the precariousness

  of life on this planet..in the natural.   My final conclusion? by the power and grace of God alone does this planet exist. Constellations clashing,asteroids

  whizzing by....post-glacier rebound...corruption,greed and malice between nations...there's an island of Africa ready to slide into the sea[LaPalma] that

  could devestae the eastern seaboard with a tsunami[and it's become active in that are with volcanoes]

   I live in the New Madrid....Fema has already stockpiles supplies for the big quake coming,lot'sof bodybags readied,blankets,mre's and bottled water..the government

  is preparing for mega-death scenario's.

UNWOUND

I have a target on my back,
A gyroscope
Spinning in my head,
I have a crystal in my heart
Radio Art
Blood red.

You've got the horse behind the cart-
You push
      and push
          and push
But you cannot wear me down.

Get this......

My world is comin on,
Yours is comin unwound.

If I tell you,
"I have seen it"
You might lay me underground.

If I tell you,
"I have heard it"
You would rob the world of sound.

If I tell you
"I am not afraid,"
You push
    and push
       and push
But you can't wear me down.

My world is comin on
Yours is comin unwound.

[Cardinal]

:cloud9: Just playing out the curse of mingled seed in the natural reallm. What is going on in the spiritual realms has to be played out for all to see in the natural realms. My  :2c:

What do you mean by the mingled seed?  I've seen this on a hebrew roots website, and they're talking about nephilim coming back as aliens and deceiving the nations with a literal beast/antichrist, that is a hybrid.

:cloud9: In this instance, I was referring to their tampering genetically with actual seeds. And I didn't know there were any people who think what you mentioned. Very close to something He spoke to me about the nephilim and their creation of hybrids, and I was not a "believer" in such things. Blessings....

[Cardinal]

I'd take that a step further and say what's happening in the natural realm is already finished in the spiritual realm.  It's just that "this" realm is bound by the natural laws, time being the biggest one.  But Spirit is outside of the grasp of both time "and" reasoning.  That's why we truly "can" enter into a 1000 year reign with Christ NOW because it's not about a measurement of time, instead it's about an intimate relationship with Christ.  He "is"  the 1000 year reign . . .but as they say, to those who still choose to "wait" for it to literally unfold . . .let them wait.

:cloud9: EXACTLY  :thumbsup:

[thinktank]

I'd take that a step further and say what's happening in the natural realm is already finished in the spiritual realm.  It's just that "this" realm is bound by the natural laws, time being the biggest one.  But Spirit is outside of the grasp of both time "and" reasoning.  That's why we truly "can" enter into a 1000 year reign with Christ NOW because it's not about a measurement of time, instead it's about an intimate relationship with Christ.  He "is"  the 1000 year reign . . .but as they say, to those who still choose to "wait" for it to literally unfold . . .let them wait.

:cloud9: EXACTLY  :thumbsup:

So there is something to "wait" for. I hope you are not being arrogant about your salvation.  Much of the world, as Jesus said the meek shall inherit the earth, blessed are they that mourn for they shall be comforted.