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Molly

Quote from: TTPerhaps they don't want to make the news public to avoid mass panic and fear of asteroid collision, being a potential reality.

Yeah, and maybe the moon is made of green cheese. :happygrin:

We're talking about people who couldn't tell the truth if their lives depended on it.

Watch Glenn Beck Tues night.  He claims he is going to reveal some interesting info.  Not that I trust him, either, but the evil ones always warn before they act.  It's part of their satanic 'moral' code.

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Fact "1" and fact "2" together don't necessarily mean anything, but when you look at facts 1-30 all together, it becomes a lot more obvious that there really are certain individuals on this planet who have "sold their souls to the devil" for the "right" to control everyone else.

I personally think the creation of the corporate structure signalled the downfall, as it put individuals into a nearly (before this) unheard of position of gaining enormous personal wealth, essentially creating "kings" with their own kingdom. If we lived in biblical era days or even the middle ages, they would be kings.

Man's greed and selfishness being what it is, it was only a matter of time, before they grew tired of JUST ruling over their own little "kingdoms". These are the people who have banded together to decide things about the rest of us, that they were neither elected nor qualified to do. But the love of money is the root of all evil.

And since the US has been the main reason since it's inception, that that didn't happen worldwide in the first place, it stands to reason you must cut the head off the "snake" first, if you hope to get anywhere with becoming a new Caesar.

It only makes sense if we are to rule and reign with Him, that the "other side" would want to mimic the same thing = New World Order. The good news is, Christ wins in the end. My  :2c: Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

eaglesway

The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. http://www.hell-is-a-myth.webs.com/


Cardinal

"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Received this from someone.......thought it might be of interest.......

FEMA Training and Exercise plan 2010-2014 and FEMA's plea for volunteersTuesday, November 9, 2010

Notice where it's being held and check out with your state officials who will be involved (Governor, Mayor, Sheriff) and any other info you can get.  Participate in your state if you want to.
Take Action!
•National Level Exercise NLE 2011 Private Sector Participation
•Strategic Foresight Initiative
Voice your opinion and share your insight on national policies when they are open for comment. Take part in events and activities throughout the year, and find other current opportunities to strengthen public-private collaboration.

National Level Exercise NLE 2011 Private Sector Participation
National Level Exercise NLE 2011 will be an operations-based exercise centered on the scenario of a catastrophic earthquake in the New Madrid Seismic Zone, encompassing four FEMA Regions (IV, V, VI and VII below) and eight Central U.S. Earthquake States: Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Illinois, Indiana, Mississippi, Missouri and Tennessee. NLE 2011 will exercise initial incident response and recovery capabilities, to test and validate existing plans, policies and procedures to include the New Madrid Catastrophic Plan (currently under development).  NLE 2011 will be conducted in May 2011.   If you have any questions regarding NLE 2011 please contact us at Private.SectorNLE@dhs.gov.

Region IV
Serving the eight southeastern states of Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee

Region V
Serving IL, IN, MI, MN, OH, WI

Region VI
Serving AR, LA, NM, OK, TX

Region VII
Serving IA, KS, MO, NE

Strategic Foresight Initiative
The goal of this Strategic Foresight Initiative is to engage the emergency management community in exploring issues, trends and other factors that could impact the future of emergency management and to expand the community's strategic planning for the future. Additional information is available at www.fema.gov/about/programs/oppa/strategic_foresight_initiative.shtm.

http://www.fema.gov/privatesector/take_action.shtm 

FEMA Regions:
Region I
Serving CT, MA, ME, NH, RI, VT

Region II
Serving New Jersey, New York, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands

Region III
Serving DC, DE, MD, PA, VA, WV

Region IV
Serving the eight southeastern states of Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee

Region V
Serving IL, IN, MI, MN, OH, WI

Region VI
Serving AR, LA, NM, OK, TX

Region VII
Serving IA, KS, MO, NE

Region VIII
Serving CO, MT, ND, SD, UT, WY

Region IX
Serving AZ, CA, GUAM, HI, NV, CNMI, RMI, FSM, American Samoa

Region X
Supporting the citizens and first responders of Alaska, Idaho, Oregon and Washington

http://www.fema.gov/about/regions/index.shtm

http://publicintelligence.net/fema-region-x-multi-year-training-and-exercise-plan-2010-2014/


"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly


thinktank

I find your beliefs strange, you believe in conspiracy theories, but yet do not believe the end times bible, hmm, looks like some people here cannot handle the truth, that is fine, but why argue against those who can handle the truth.

Peace.

Molly

Quote from: thinktank on November 10, 2010, 03:54:40 PM
I find your beliefs strange, you believe in conspiracy theories, but yet do not believe the end times bible, hmm, looks like some people here cannot handle the truth, that is fine, but why argue against those who can handle the truth.

Peace.
who or what are you referring to? :dontknow:

thinktank

Quote from: Molly on November 10, 2010, 03:59:33 PM
Quote from: thinktank on November 10, 2010, 03:54:40 PM
I find your beliefs strange, you believe in conspiracy theories, but yet do not believe the end times bible, hmm, looks like some people here cannot handle the truth, that is fine, but why argue against those who can handle the truth.

Peace.
who or what are you referring to? :dontknow:
Nobody in particular, but people in general who cannot handle the truth of the end times, but yet believe in conspiracy theories of global government.

WhiteWings

Since the beginning of mankind some people try to rule the world.
So I think greedy people on itself are not proof of end times (happening now)....
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: TTNobody in particular, but people in general who cannot handle the truth of the end times, but yet believe in conspiracy theories of global government.

What is the truth of the end times that people can't handle?

We already have the structure of a global govt in place,  in case you haven't noticed,-- it is just ramping up its controls.  So that takes it out of the 'theory' realm, although it could still qualify as a conspiracy.

"conspiracy"

An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

Cardinal

 :cloud9: @ TT......when you've read as much as Molly has on who's doing what where, you tend to value their opinion on what's going on in the real world. I consider it the "being as wise as a serpent part", so we can pray, at the very least.....My  :2c:
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

micah7:9

Quote from: Cardinal on November 10, 2010, 05:05:39 PM
:cloud9: @ TT......when you've read as much as Molly has on who's doing what where, you tend to value their opinion on what's going on in the real world. I consider it the "being as wise as a serpent part", so we can pray, at the very least.....My  :2c:

As long as one feeds on "conspiracy" and the Word, nervousness and fear is the only out come.


Cardinal

 :cloud9: I am not afraid, but I am alert to the wiles of the enemy coming thru this generation. More than once, HE has drawn my attention of things to pray down, and I KNEW they would not pass before they went to the vote, for that reason. We have authority thru Him and are expected to use it as He directs. My  :2c: Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

micah7:9


Cardinal

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Posted By Dr. Mercola | November 11 2010 | 6,279 views
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Over the past 15 years or so, a collection of five giant biotech corporations -- Monsanto, Syngenta, Bayer, Dow and DuPont -- have bought up more than 200 other companies, allowing them to dominate access to seeds.

The takeover has been so dramatic that it is becoming difficult for farmers to find alternatives. As a result, in the U.S., 90 percent of soybeans are genetically-modified, and many conventional farmers have trouble obtaining non-genetically modified seeds.

According to The Ecologist:

"...
  • ne solution to restricting their control would be through banning the practice of granting patents on seeds, plants and genes. A patent gives a company exclusive rights to sell and develop a new invention. In the case of patents on plants and genes it grants them temporary monopolies and bans farmers from saving seeds".

    Sources:
      The Ecologist October 7, 2010

      Grist October 20, 2010

     

    Dr. Mercola's Comments:   


    At this point, a mere FIVE companies – biotechnology companies at that -- own the vast majority of all worldwide seeds. The enormous ramifications of this should be fairly obvious.

    Genetically modified (GM) seeds, particularly corn and soy, have already taken over in many areas of the world, effectively eliminating the use of conventional and "heirloom" seeds, and along with them, the ancient, sustainable farming practices that produces healthful food.

    For example, in the US, as of 2009 genetically modified (GM) soybeans accounted for 91 percent of the soybean market. Eighty-five percent of all corn grown was GM, as well as 88 percent of all cotton. 

    Many pro-GM crop fanatics argue that genetically engineered (GM) crops are superior in a number of ways, but evidence to the contrary is all around us...

    Five Biotech Giants Now Control the Global Seed Market
    The illustration below, provided by The Ecologist, shows how five biotech giants have gobbled up seed companies, large and small alike, across the world, with Monsanto clearly leading the pack.


    Since the 1980s, Monsanto has become the world leader in genetic modification of seeds and has won at least 674 biotechnology patents, more than any other company.

    This is not surprising, considering they invest over $2 million a day on research and development!

    But Monsanto is not only patenting their own GMO seeds. They have also succeeded in slapping patents on a large number of common crop seeds, in essence patenting life forms for the first time -- without a single vote of the people or Congress.

    By doing this, Monsanto has become the sole owner of many of the very seeds necessary to support the world's food supply ... an incredibly powerful position that no for-profit company should ever hold.

    The other heavyweights are Syngenta, Bayer, Dow, and DuPont.

    Combined, they have acquired more than 200 seed companies in the past 15 years. And together, they not only threaten the continuation of sustainable, renewable farming practices, their monopoly over the food supply threatens the health of every single person on the planet.

    The Impact of GM Seed Monopoly
    Farmers are now increasingly forced to use GM seeds simply because there are so few alternative sources of seeds remaining. The effect of this is that we're losing renewable agriculture – the age-old practice of saving and replanting seeds from one harvest to the next.

    As mentioned in The Ecologist, one solution to this growing problem would be to make patenting seeds, plants, and genes illegal. As it stands now, each GM seed is patented and sold under exclusive rights.  Therefore, farmers must purchase the GM seeds anew each year, because saving seeds is considered to be patent infringement. Anyone who does save GM seeds must pay a license fee to actually re-sow them.

    This, of course, results in higher prices and reduced product options.

    Add in the increased need for pesticides and herbicides that GM crops require and the ever rising cost of these products, and what you end up with is a far more expensive crop that has the potential to not only fail more frequently than conventional crops, but that can also be extremely harmful to the animals and humans who eat them.

    (For more information about the health hazards involved, please see What You Must Know About Dangerous Genetically Modified Foods.)

    Talk about a lose-lose-lose situation.

    GM Crops = Higher Costs, Lower Yields, and Far More Dangerous Foods
    Two years ago, 400 scientists from around the world created a report that shows how seed and plant patents are increasing, as opposed to reducing, costs as promised. For example, between 1996, when GE seeds were introduced to the market, and 2007, the price for soy and corn seeds doubled.

    But the price farmers pay for using GM seeds do not end there. 

    Heartbreaking proof of the devastating effect of this agricultural change can be seen in the skyrocketing suicide rate in India, where rising debt combined with frequent GM crop failures bring farmers to the brink of despair on a daily basis.

    Africa is another nation that has been negatively impacted by GM crops.

    SeattleGlobalJustice.org recently reported that "in 2009, Monsanto's genetically modified maize failed to produce kernels and hundreds of farmers were devastated. According to Mariam Mayet, environmental attorney and director of the Africa Centre for Biosafety in Johannesburg, some farmers suffered up to an 80 percent crop failure."

    GM crops were brought to market with the promise of higher yields, lower costs, and reduced pesticide use. None of them have turned out to be true...

    On the contrary, GM soya has decreased yields by up to 20 percent compared with non-GM soya, for example, and up to 100 percent failures of Bt cotton have been recorded in India.

    In the US, studies by scientists from the USDA and the University of Georgia has shown that growing GM cotton can result in a drop in income by up to 40 percent.

    As for pesticide use, USDA data shows that GM crops has increased pesticide use by 50 million pounds from 1996 to 2003 in the U.S., and the use of glyphosate went up more than 15-fold between 1994 and 2005, along with increases in other herbicides to cope with rising glyphosate resistant superweeds. 

    These Roundup tolerant superweeds and Bt resistant pests render the two major GM crop traits completely useless...

    Not only that, we now have confirmed transgene contamination in the wild.

    Although Monsanto and others denied this possibility, this was long ago predicted and precisely what one would  expect.

    Scientists have recently confirmed that the genome (whether plant, animal or human) is NOT constant and static, which is the scientific base for genetic engineering of plants and animals. Instead, geneticists have discovered that the genome is remarkably dynamic and changeable, constantly 'conversing' and adapting to the environment.

    In reality, GM crops are a scientific experiment based on flawed assumptions, and anything is possible – and I can strongly guarantee you, it isn't good, and it won't get any better.

    The report, 'Future of seeds and food', published last year by the international coalition of No Patents on Seeds, calls out for an end to patenting seeds, plants, and animals, and the need to stop the food monopoly created by Big Biotech. And I agree, little could be more important at this point in time.

    There are already clear indications that unless the GM seed monopoly is put to an end, our whole ENTIRE food supply will become contaminated, putting everyone's health at risk.

    How?

    Many conventional and organic livestock farmers alike are now being forced to use GM feed, simply because there are no other options available!

    Situation is Actually Worse than We Knew
    Not only do we have the problems that have been previously discussed over the years with GM crops but there are some new elements to the equation. For now even those that are convinced of the dangers of GMO crops and want to avoid using them simply are unable to in some cases.

    I recently received a personal letter from one such farmer, who runs a small ecological farm in Ohio. Even though she is dedicated to organic farming, she is now finding herself in the unthinkable predicament of being forced to buy Monsanto GM corn feed for her pigs and chickens.

    Here is her story:


    Be Part of the Solution
    In spite of what you have likely heard, a large shift to organic agriculture -- which by definition is non-GM -- could protect and improve both the environment and animal- and human health.

    It could even be the solution to world hunger. According to a Danish study presented to the U.N. in 2007, recent models of an organically grown, global food supply shows that a more environmentally friendly approach to agriculture is in fact capable of producing enough food for the world's current population.

    What prevents many farmers from making the move to organic is that crop yields could initially drop as much as 50 percent in the very beginning, before evening out over time. However, that problem may be mitigated somewhat, because farmers wouldn't need to dole out precious money for toxic pesticides, the price of which have risen as much as 75 percent already.

    Unfortunately, while we're waiting for the leaders of the world to catch up and realize the dire straits we're in as a species, we're running out of time. As evidenced by Cappello's story above, our ability to produce organic foods is under constant attack.

    So, please, do not wait for some unspecified time in the future.

    Instead, do what you can NOW to promote local organic food producers no matter where you live by taking advantage of local sources of organic foods as often as you can.

    In addition, please take every measure you can to avoid as many GM foods as you possibly can. Here's a list of tips to help you do just that:

    •Reduce or eliminate processed foods. Some 75 percent of processed foods contain GM ingredients.
    •Read produce and food labels. When looking at a product label, if any ingredients such as corn flour and meal, dextrin, starch, soy sauce, margarine, and tofu (to name a few) are listed, there's a good chance it has come from GM corn or soy, unless it's listed as organic.
    •Buy organic produce. Buying organic is currently the best way to ensure that your food has not been genetically modified.
    •Download and use the Non-GMO Shopping Guide, and share it with your friends and family
    Avoid purchasing Monsanto-made pesticides
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Cardinal

 :sigh: From Glenn Beck's site....

Soros Exposed: Research on the Progressive Puppet Master
November 11, 2010 - 1:10 ET

For months, Glenn has been pulling back the structure progressives have worked decades to put in place. Beneath every layer lies one common thread: George Soros. Tonight on TV, Glenn presents an in-depth look at the Puppet Master, billionaire financier George Soros, one of the most powerful forces in the Progressive Movement. But don't just take Glenn's word for it. Read. Analyze. Do your own homework and come to your own conclusions - read below to fact check all the sources used on tonight's show.

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BACKGROUND
"Messianic Fantasies"
- "It is sort of a disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out," (The Independent, June 3, 1993)
- "I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of self-importance –to put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god or an economic reformer like Keynes or, even better, a scientist like Einstein," (The Alchemy of Finance, George Soros)
- According to friend Byron Wien (now with the Blackstone Group), "You must understand he thinks he's been anointed by God to solve insoluble problems. The proof is that he has been so successful at making so much. He therefore thinks he has a responsibility to give money away," (Time Magazine, Sept 1, 1997)
- "If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood which I felt I had to control, otherwise I might end up in the loony bin. But when I made my way in the world I wanted to indulge myself in my fantasies to the extent that I could afford."
- George Soros 60 Minutes Interview - 12/20/98 / Transcript:
KROFT: Are you religious?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: Do you believe in God?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: (Voiceover) Soros told us he believes God was created by man, not the other way around, which may be why he thinks he can smooth out the world's imperfections.


"THE MAN WHO BROKE THE BANK OF ENGLAND"

- "As September 15 wore on, George Soros's confidence that Britain would pull the pound out of the ERM was growing. It had been Stanley Druckenmiller who had thought the time ripe for making a bet against the sterling. He talked to Soros about doing something. Soros gave him the green light but urged his head trader to bet an even larger sum than Druckenmiller had in mind. And so Druckenmiller, acting for Soros, sold $10 billion worth of sterling... The next morning at 7:00, the phone rang at Soros's home. It was Stan Druckenmiller with news... While George Soros had slept, he racked a profit $958 million. When Soros's gains from other positions he took during the ERM crisis were tallied, he racked up close to $2 billion... It was this bet, this single act of placing $10 billion on the fact that Britain would have to devalue the pound, that made George Soros world famous," (SOROS THE UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY, pgs 5-6).

- "He famously shorted the British pound in 1992, wagering $10 billion on a drop in its value. In a desperate bid to keep its currency afloat, the Bank of England tried to buy up pounds as fast as Soros could dump them. However, as more and more investors followed Soros' lead and joined his efforts, the Bank of England eventually gave up. The British pound was devalued, launching a tsunami of financial turmoil from Tokyo to Rome. When it was over, millions of hardworking Britons confronted their diminished savings, while Soros counted his gains. He had personally made nearly $2 billion on the catastrophe," (The Shadow Party, pg. 4).
- Soros has said of this event: "I had no platform, so I deliberately [did] the sterling thing to create a platform. Obviously people care about the man who made a lot of money...my influence has continued to grow and I do have access to,"(Time Magazine, Sept 1, 1997)
- In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, the then Malaysian Prime Minister, Mahathir bin Mohamad, accused him of bringing down the Malaysian currency, the ringgit, through his trading activities. In Thailand he was branded an "economic war criminal" who "sucks the blood from the people".


REVOLUTIONS
- "Just write that the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire," (The New Republic, Jan 1994)
- "I am acting out a fantasy and so is Eastern Europe. A psychiatrist once told me how dangerous it is to act out fantasies and I am beginning to see what he meant," (http://www.osi.hu/oss/postscript.html)


ANTI-SEMITISM
- In a 1998 interview with Steve Kroft, Soros was asked if he felt guilty about confiscating property from Jews as a teenager. He responded, "No."
- "I don't deny the Jews their right to a national existence--but I don't want to be part of it." That experience notwithstanding, Soros has chosen to exclude Israel and Jewish causes, by and large, from his massive philanthropy-a decision that has caused comment among one of his colleagues in the financial community, particularly those who are strong supporters of Israel. In Hungary, Soros has been subject to anti-Semitic attacks. Referring to being a target, Soros, in his book "Underwriting Democracy," wrote, "I am ready to stand up and be counted." When I mentioned that rather suggestive line to Soros during one of several extended interviews with him, he responded quickly, "Right. It took me a long time."

He continued, "My mother was quite anti-Semitic, and ashamed of being Jewish. Given the culture in which one lived, being Jewish was a clear-cut stigma, disadvantage, a handicap-and, therefore, there was always the desire to transcend it, to escape it." He confirmed what someone had told me-that his family name had long ago been changed from Schwartz. "So the assimilationist Jews of Hungary had a deep sense of inferiority and it took me a long time to work through that," he said, adding, however, that he succeeded in doing so many years ago... "I am escaping the particular. I think I am doing exactly that by espousing this universal concept"-of open society. "In other words, I don't think that you can ever overcome anti-Semitism if you behave as a tribe... the only way you can overcome it is if you give up the tribalness."

(Source: THE WORLD ACCORDING TO SOROS by CONNIE BRUC, The New Yorker, January 23, 1995,)
- "As I looked around me for a worthy cause. I ran into difficulties. I did not belong to any community. As a Hungarian Jew I had never quite become an American. I had left Hungary behind and my Jewishness did not express itself in a sense of tribal loyalty that would have led me to support Israel," (http://www.osi.hu/oss/ch1.html)

"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Cardinal

 Part 2


INFO ON NAME CHANGE FROM SHWARTZ TO SOROS
- Born in Hungary in 1930, Mr. Soros began life as George Schwartz. His father, Tivadar, was from humble origins; his mother, Erzebet, from money. Both were Jews, but nonobservant (she eventually converted to Catholicism). Once married, Tivadar had to work just two hours a day managing some of his wife's family property, which provided a handsome living for them and their two sons, Paul and George. At some point during the boys' childhood, the parents decided to change the family name and chose the Hungarian-sounding but in fact obscure Soros. It means "soar" (in the future tense) in Esperanto, the made-up trans-European language promoted by those who dreamed of a world free of nationality. Tivadar was among its leading proponents. (Source: The Mind of George Soros; Meet the Esperanto enthusiast who wants to save the world from President Bush, 2 March 2004, The Wall Street Journal)
- Before the end of the war, however, Soros' upper-middle-class world had inverted. The family posed as Christians and separated to hide from the Germans. They changed their name from Schwartz (considered too Jewish-sounding) to Soros (more reflective of the family's Hungarian roots and because his father liked the palindrome). (The elusive billionaire: An author tries valiantly to capture the essence of philanthropist George Soros, Vancouver Sun, 20 April 2002)


"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Cardinal

Part 3

MORE ON TIVADAR SOROS
The other day, George Soros and his older brother Paul, an engineer turned investor-philanthropist, met in the offices of Soros Fund Management to discuss their father. The occasion was the English-language publication of Tivadar Soros's wartime memoir, "Masquerade: Dancing Around Death in Nazi-Occupied Hungary," which was first published in 1965 in Esperanto, one of six languages in which Soros pere was fluent.

"It was his nature, regardless of difficulties, to believe that one must behave like a human being and one must make the most of life," Paul Soros said, explaining the charm and ebullience of his father, who, in the book, is described by his five-year-old son George as "a married bachelor," and who, even when living semi-reclusively under an assumed Christian identity, never missed his daily swim. "I remember during the siege we went to the opera, because at a time when there was no food the opera still served very nice hors d'oeuvres and patisserie. Whether or not it was prudent, the idea was that you should make the most of your circumstances."

George, who, like Paul, has inherited his father's broad face, pointed out that Tivadar's fondness for the comforts of bourgeois life was not accompanied by a docile bourgeois sensibility. "We didn't preserve ordinariness," George said. "He made us very conscious that these were extraordinary times and that the normal rules didn't apply." In the book, Tivadar writes that at one point young George was required by the authorities to deliver notices to certain Jews that they should report to the Rabbinical Seminary with blankets and food. "This was a profoundly important experience for me," George said. "My father said, 'You should go ahead and deliver them, but tell the people that if they report they will be deported.' The reply from one man was 'I am a law-abiding citizen. They can't do anything to me.' I told my father, and that was an occasion for a lecture that there are times when you have laws that are immoral, and if you obey them you perish."

"Masquerade" contains a great deal of black social comedy; a running theme is Tivadar's efforts to convince his recalcitrant mother-in-law that, all things considered, it really would be best if she stopped regarding the occupation as a personal insult. ("I refuse to go anywhere if the people don't know who I am and I have to pretend I'm somebody else all the time," she said of his attempts to find a safe house for her.) Tivadar's own ease with his assumed identity-he grew a mustache, and went by Elek Szabo-led him, one day during an air raid, to tell a neighbor in the shelter about the time he approached the podium on which Hitler was standing at the 1936 Winter Olympics, just to see how close he could get. "Hardly fifteen minutes had passed after my tale when there was suddenly a great commotion," Tivadar wrote. "The shelter commander appeared, surrounded by several officers. . . . It transpired that the air-defense commander, in great excitement that there was someone present who had seen Hitler, had radioed headquarters and a group had come over right away to see this privileged person."

Tivadar's energies, though, were largely devoted to the extremely serious business of procuring papers to save relatives and friends from a new, unimaginable form of terror. "My father was ahead of the curve, because he recognized the moment the Germans came in that this was a different world and one had to act differently," George said. He and Paul agreed that they still try to live by their father's resourceful example. "The funny thing is that in character we probably both inherited a lot more from our mother," George said.


"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Cardinal

Part 4

GLOBALIZATION
- Soros has long been calling for increased globalization. In "The Crisis of Global Capitalism," 1998 he writes: "To stabilize and regulate a truly global economy, we need some global system of political decision-making. In short, we need a global society to support our global economy. A global society does not mean a global state. To abolish the existence of states is neither feasible nor desirable; but insofar as there are collective interests that transcend state boundaries, the sovereignty of states must be subordinated to international law and international institutions. Interestingly, the greatest opposition to this idea is coming from the United States. But there has never been a time when a strong lead from the U.S. and other like-minded countries could achieve such powerful and benign results. With the right sense of leadership and with clarity of purpose, the U.S. and its allies could help to stabilize the global economic system and to extend and uphold universal human values. The opportunity is waiting to be grasped."
(Source: The Crisis of Global Capitalism.(book excerpt), George Soros, 7 December 1998, Newsweek)
- During this year he called for greater authority to institutions such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and for an International Credit Insurance Corp. to establish some kind of supervision over national supervisory authorities and stated, "At the same time, there remains the urgent need for Congress to authorise an increase in the capital of the IMF." He admitted that such "radical ideas" could not even be considered until Congress "changes its attitude toward international institutions in general and the IMF in particular."
(Source: Soros calls for global credit insurance agency, 15 September 1998, Reuters News)
- Soros has said that the United States would cease to be the world's undisputed dominant force. "The veto power that we have in the International Monetary Fund will disappear. We will be downsized. At the same time, hopefully, we will have a better working system and opponents will be more downsized than we will."
(Source: BOSTON, Oct. 29 -- Massachusetts Institute of Technology press release via Factiva)
- "The Bubble of American Supremacy,": "The disparity between private goods and public goods manifests itself in a number of ways. First, there is a growing inequality between rich and poor, both within countries and among countries. Admittedly, globalisation is not a zero-sum game: its benefits exceed the costs in the sense that the increased wealth produced by globalisation could be used to make up for the inequities and other shortcomings of globalisation and there would still be some extra wealth left over.
The trouble is that the winners do not compensate the losers either within states or between states. The welfare state as we know it has become unsustainable and international income redistribution is practically nonexistent. Total international assistance amounted to $US56.5 billion ($74.4 billion) in 2002. This amount represents only 0.18 per cent of global GDP. As a result, the gap between the rich and the poor continues to grow."
(Source: Edited extract from The Bubble of American Supremacy by George Soros via The Sydney Morning Herald, February 4, 2004)


KARL POPPER
SOROS' PHILOSOPHY
- At the London School of Economics, Soros discovered the work of philosopher Karl Popper, whose ideas on open society had a profound influence on his thinking. He was attracted to Popper's critique of totalitarianism, The Open Society and Its Enemies, which maintained that societies can only flourish when they allow democratic governance, freedom of expression, a diverse range of opinion, and respect for individual rights. Later, working as a trader and analyst, he adapted Popper to develop his own "theory of reflexivity," a set of ideas that seeks to explain the relationship between thought and reality, which he used to predict, among other things, the emergence of financial bubbles. Soros began to apply his theory to investing and concluded that he had more talent for trading than for philosophy. In 1967 he helped establish an offshore investment fund; and in 1973 he set up a private investment firm that eventually evolved into the Quantum Fund, one of the first hedge funds. http://www.soros.org/about/bios/staff/george-soros
QUOTES FROM "The Open Society and Its Enemies: Hegel and Marx," by Karl Popper (Vol. 2), by Karl Popper
- The development of capitalism has led to the elimination of all classes but two, a small bourgeiouse and a huge proletariat: and the increase of misery has forced the latter to revolt against its exploiters.  The conclusions are, first, that the workers must win the struggle, secondly that, by eliminating bourgeiouse, they must establish a classless society, since only one class remains. (pg 151-152)
- But all over the earth, organized political power has begun to perform far-reaching economic functions.  Unrestrained capitalism has given way to a new historical period, to our own period of political interventionism, of the economic interference of the state. Interventionism has assumed various forms.  There is the Russian variety; there is the fascist form of totalitarianism; and their s the domestic interventionism of England, of the United States, and the "Smaller Democracies" led by Sweden where the technology of democratic intervention has reached the highest level so far.  (pg 155)
- Admittedly, increasing misery must produce resistance, and it is even likely to produce rebellious outbreaks.  But the assumption of our argument is that the misery cannot be alleviated until victory has been won in the social revolution. (pg 163)
- I am not in all cases and under all circumstance against a violent revolution. (pg 166)
- ...the working of democracy rests largely upon the understanding that  a government which attempts to misuse its powers and to establish itself as a tyranny (or which tolerates the establishment of a tyranny by anybody else) outlaws itself, and that the citizens have not only a right, but also a duty to consider the action of such government a crime, and its members as a dangerous gang of criminals. (pg 167)


"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Cardinal

Part 5

MORE ABOUT KARL POPPER
http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/8018
- Although compelled to leave his native Austria in the 1930s (because of his Jewish ancestry), his book is remarkably free from personal bitterness or sadness.
- He did not shrink from tracing the sources of those dangerous ideas to Marx, to Hegel, and even to that greatest of all philosophers, Plato. At a time when many intellectuals had lost faith in democracy, Popper offered a spirited defense of democratic principles and outlined a compelling vision of a society grounded in democratic reforms.
- Popper was a fallibilist, one who perceives great error and danger in any theory of knowledge—or regime—that claimed to offer certain truth. In such a system, there would be no incentive to establish social and political structures that promote learning or the free exchange of ideas; truth is already at hand. In the name of historical progress, the regime may then justify the squelching of human freedoms and even atrocities on a grand scale.
- George Soros, who first encountered The Open Society as Popper's student at the London School of Economics, founded the Open Society Institute to propagate Popper's ideas, particularly in Eastern Europe. Thus the political philosophy Popper first articulated before the start of the Cold War is now being studied and put into practice in countries newly emerging from behind the Iron Curtain.
- He left school at age sixteen and began auditing lectures at the University of Vienna. Although a Marxist as a teenager, he was repelled in 1919 by the leftist-inspired street violence of postwar Vienna that resulted in the deaths of demonstrators. That same year, he studied Freud's psychoanalysis and worked for a time with psychiatrist Alfred Adler.
- In 1922 he matriculated at the University of Vienna. To support himself, he apprenticed himself to a cabinetmaker and took up social work. Pursuing his goal of becoming a schoolteacher, Popper subsequently returned to the university. In 1928, he earned a Ph.D. in philosophy and, in 1929, a teacher's certificate. Beginning in the late 1920s, Popper began interacting with members of the famous Vienna Circle of logical positivists, a group of prominent intellectuals trying to articulate the importance of science for philosophy. Shortly after publishing (in German) a then little-noticed but classic work on the logical foundations of science in 1934, Popper left Austria under the threat of Nazi anti-Semitism. From New Zealand, where he had obtained a university teaching post, he returned to England after World War II as professor of philosophy of science at the London School of Economics, where he remained until his retirement.


SOROS' CURRENT TIES
SOROS AND PRESIDENT OBAMA

- In December 2006, Soros met with presidential hopeful Barack Obama in Soros' New York office. Soros had previously hosted a fundraiser for Obama during his 2004 campaign for the Senate.
- On January 16, 2007, Obama announce the creation of a presidential exploratory committee and within hours Soros sent a contribution of $2,100, the maximum allowable under campaign finance laws.
- Days after Obama was elected in November of 2008, Soros said in an interview "I think we need a large stimulus package which will provide funds for state and local government to maintain their budgets – because they are not allowed by the constitution to run a deficit. For such a program to be successful, the federal government would need to provide hundreds of billions of dollars. In addition, another infrastructure program is necessary. In total, the cost would be in the 300 to 600 billion dollar range." Since then, Congress passed a $787 billion stimulus and Obama very recently introduced a $50 billion plan to improve the country's transportation program, saying "I want America to have the best infrastructure in the world."

- In that same interview, Soros called for cap & trade: "I think this is a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The US needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights. I would use the revenues from these auctions to launch a new, environmentally friendly energy policy. That would be yet another federal program that could help us to overcome the current stagnation." Since then, Congress has introduced cap & trade legislation. (More info in "going green" section)
- Also in that interview, Soros said "In 2010, the Bush tax cuts will expire and we should not extend them." Since then, Obama expressed his opposition to the Bush tax cuts in an interview with ABC on September 9th: "All those middle class folks who need tax relief hostage right now in order to provide tax breaks for the top two percent wealthiest Americans, who don't need a tax break, aren't asking for a tax break. And you know, if we could afford it, it'd be one thing. But we know that's gonna cost $700 billion over ten years. And so, that is not a smart thing to do for the economy"
- Soros is also on board with Obama's proposals to reform the banking system. In an interview with the BBC: Interviewer:  Now President Obama last week announced some quite radical proposals to reform the banking system. He wants them out of what he calls "proprietary trading", using their capital to speculate on their own account, and also he wants a limit on their size. Are these constructive measures in your view? Soros:  Very much so these are the right ... it goes in the right direction. In my opinion, it doesn't actually go far enough because it still leaves the problem of too big to fail. In other words, if you let's say now again Goldman Sachs gives up its banking license, it becomes then an investment bank ... January 2010, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/davos/8485029.stm
- Since  Obama's been in office, Soros has made four visits to the White House
- ALSO IN HIS 2008 INTERVIEW: Soros: "I think this is a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The US needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights. I would use the revenues from these auctions to launch a new, environmentally friendly energy policy. That would be yet another federal program that could help us to overcome the current stagnation. SPIEGEL: Your proposal would be dismissed on Wall Street as "big government." Republicans might call it European-style "socialism."  Soros: That is exactly what we need now. I am against market fundamentalism. I think this propaganda that government involvement is always bad has been very successful -- but also very harmful to our society.  SPIEGEL: Would you advise the new president to say that publicly? Soros: He has already spoken about changing the political discourse. I think it is better to have a government that wants to provide good government than a government that doesn't believe in government.


WILL ANOTHER FISCAL STIMULUS BE NEXT?
- "The simple truth is that the private sector does not employ available resources. Mr. Obama has in fact been very friendly to business, and corporations are operating profitably. But instead of investing, they are building up liquidity. Perhaps a Republican victory would boost their confidence, but in the meantime, investment and employment require fiscal stimulus," (Financial Times, Oct. 4, 2010)


LAUNCHING A WAR AGAINST PRESIDENT BUSH
- Soros told the Washington Post: "I have made rejection of the Bush doctrine the central project of my life... America, under Bush, is a danger to the world.  And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is."
- Also during that election: "This is the most important election of my lifetime. These aren't normal times. The ends justify every legal means possible."
Read more http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/10/18/041018fa_fact3?currentPage=3#ixzz0xAm1jvyV


SOROS AND VAN JONES
- Soros has also supported Van Jones – Originally through the Open Society Institute which gave the Ella Baker Center $151,800 in 2006 and $140,000 in 2007. Van Jones was head of the Ella Baker Center during those years. OSI also funded Green for All in 2008 --  they received a grant in the amount of $75,000 to "integrate the Civic Justice Corps into Green For All's campaign to create a national Clean Energy Corps." while Van Jones was running it. Van Jones later appeared as a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. Additionally, OSI helped fund TIDES which then started the Apollo Alliance (where Van Jones sat on the board).


CAP & TRADE
- Soros is also a huge proponent of cap and trade. The sot below sounds very similar to VAN JONES' "We'renot going to put a new battery in a broken system."
SOROS: "work on a better world order where we work together to resolve problems that confront humanity like global warming. And I think that dealing with global warming will require a lot of investment. SOROS: You see, for the last 25 years the world economy, the motor of the world economy that has been driving it was consumption by the American consumer who has been spending more than he has been saving, all right? Than he's been producing. So that motor is now switched off. It's finished. It's run out of — can't continue. You need a new motor. And we have a big problem. Global warming. It requires big investment. And that could be the motor of the world economy in the years to come...Instead of consuming, building an electricity grid, saving on energy, rewiring the houses, adjusting your lifestyle where energy has got to cost more until it you introduce those new things. So it will be painful. But at least we will survive and not cook. MOYERS: You're talking about this being the end of an era and needing to create a whole new paradigm for the economic model of the country, of the world, right?
GEORGE SOROS: Yes.
VIDEO: http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/14/george-soros-on-the-green-energy-economy/

MORE ON GREEN INITIATIVES
- In 2009, Soros announced the formation of the Climate Policy Initiative to address global warming, and said he would fund it with $10 million a year over 10 years
- Friends of the Earth is another group that receives Soros money. In 2008 they received $50,000 from OSI to "build and support an international network of organizations dedicated to improving the environmental, social and developmental impacts of Chinese overseas investments." Friends of the Earth also received $180,000 from Tides Foundation in 2008 to "integrate a climate equity perspective in the presidential transition."

THE OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE
- Soros started Open Society in 1993
- Soros has given away over $7 billion to "support human rights, freedom of expression, and access to public health and education in 70 countries."
- Up to $425 million donated annually
- Aryeh Neier is the president of the Open Society Institute and Soros foundations network. "Neier personally created the radical group Students for a Democratic Society in 1959... He worked for the American Civil Liberties Union for fifteen years," (The Shadow Party, pg 23).

- Open Society Foundations recently pledged its largest donation ever to Human Rights Watch in the amount of $100 million to be distributed over 10 years
- Richard Poe writes, "Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia."
- Some organizations that have received support from OSI:
o    Center for American Progress
o    Tides Foundation
o    Campaign for America's Future
o    National Council of La Raza
o    ACORN
o    Apollo Alliance
o    Center for Community Change
o    Free Press
o    MoveOn.org

- Top 20 grant recipients in 2008 (the most recent OSI filing)
o    International Crisis Group  $5,000,000
o    Ministry of Education Republic of Liberia  $4,250,000
o    Drug Policy Alliance  $4,000,000
o    Media Development Loan Fund  $3,900,000
o    Bard College  $3,094,539
o    Proteus Fund Inc  $3,000,000
o    The Revenue Watch Institute  $3,000,000
o    The Tides Foundation  $2,875,000
o    The Mayors Fund to Advance New York City  $2,512,415
o    Center on Budget and Policy Priorities  $2,107,000
o    Public Interest Projects  $1,700,000
o    The Tides Center  $1,396,681
o    Center for Community Change  $1,362,500
o    Leadership Conference on Civil Rights education  $1,320,000
o    Fund for the European University  $1,100,000
o    Center for New York City Neighborhoods  $1,050,000
o    American Civil Liberties Union Foundation  $1,000,000
o    Center for American Progress  $1,000,000
o    Foundation to Promote Open Society  $1,000,000
o    Link Media Inc  $1,000,000
(Source: Open Society Institute, IRS Form 990-PF, 2008)


CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS
- Early in 2003, Soros pledged $3 Million over 3 years to the think tank
- He awarded $1 Million in grants to Center for American Progress for 2008/2009
- The group was largely set up to prevent Bush from gaining re-election in 2004. Soros told the Washington Post: "I have made rejection of the Bush doctrine the central project of my life... America, under Bush, is a danger to the world.  And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is."
- The organization is headed by John Podesta
- Van Jones is currently a senior fellow
- In its first year, CAP took in more than $10 million 
- In 2006, CAP launched a network of liberal religious leaders called Faith in Public Life to "fuel this burgeoning faith movement with cutting edge strategies and capacity-building resources"
- CAP's campus Progress, with a staff of 15 and a large network of student advisers, offers money and guidance to help college activists launch initiatives and newspapers
- CAP has a congressional outreach staff and aides dedicated to booking its experts on talk shows. It has a studio that offers daily taped segments and talking points for radio hosts, and it broadcasts liberal radio host Ed Schultz's show when he's in town.


TIDES
- 2008 funding from Open Society Institute to Tides (latest year for which the OSI has filed a Form 990 document with the IRS):
The Tides Center:       $1.354 million
Tides Foundation:       $2.875 million
Total:                     $4.229 million
- Drummond Pike is Founder & CEO of Tides Foundation. He is also Treasurer of Democracy Alliance, a group that was founded with major financial backing from member George Soros.
- The Apollo Alliance is a project of the Tides Center.
o    Van Jones is a former board member
o    Apollo Alliance helped to design and promote the stimulus bill which included $110 billion for "green spending"


SOJOURNERS
- Open Society gave Sojourners a $200,000 grant in 2004, $25,000 in 2006, and $100,000 in 2007.


THE QUANTUM FUND
- Soros launched the Quantum Fund after immigration to America from London in 1956. It was one of the world's first private hedge funds.
- Soros recently passed much of the fund's management to his two grown sons, Robert and Jonathan
- The fund, which is registered in the Netherlands Antilles, turned an original investment of six million dollars, in 1969, into five and a half billion dollars by 1999.


AMERICAN CONSTITUTION SOCIETY
The American Constitution Society is a left-wing legal activist group working to change our nation's laws and approaches towards law enforcement. One of its areas of focus is constitutional interpretation and change.


OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE DISCLOSED GRANTS TO ACS
Grants disclosed on George Soros' Open Society Institute's Form 990 tax filings to American Constitution Society for Law and Policy (ACS) going back to 2002 (with the exception of the 2005 filing which could not be searched electronically).  Open Society's 2002 filing referenced that the grant was designated for start-up of ACS.  Adding all the totals from each year below (excluding 2005) comes to $14,602,850.
2008 funding: $3.65 million
2007 funding: $4.5 million
2006 funding: $5,025,000
2004 funding: $676,800
2003 funding: $251,050
2002 funding: $500,000






"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

thinktank

Quote from: Cardinal on November 11, 2010, 03:53:29 AM
:cloud9: I am not afraid, but I am alert to the wiles of the enemy coming thru this generation. More than once, HE has drawn my attention of things to pray down, and I KNEW they would not pass before they went to the vote, for that reason. We have authority thru Him and are expected to use it as He directs. My  :2c: Blessings....

This is true Godly authority  :thumbsup:  don't let anyone steal this from you cardinal, this is a good example of how to use authority for that which is good with good character.

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Definitely something to pray over.....

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20101110

See also Russian Expert Suggests "Mystery Missile" Fired by Non-US Military

Pentagon and its embedded media covering up Chinese show of force off LA

Wayne Madsen Report
November 10, 2010

China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles
when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed
secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island,
launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the
southern California coast. WMR's intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan,
say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is
that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on
the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation
summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day
trip to Asia.

The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to
Obama. The day after the missile firing, China's leading credit rating agency,
Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United
States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading
of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of
force by Beijing to Washington.

The Pentagon spin machine, backed by the media reporters who regularly cover the
Defense Department, as well as officials of the Federal Aviation Administration
(FAA), North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and the U.S. Northern
Command, is now spinning various conspiracy theories, including describing the
missile plume videotaped by KCBS news helicopter cameraman Gil Leyvas at around
5:00 pm Pacific Standard Time, during the height of evening rush hour, as the
condensation trail from a jet aircraft. Other Pentagon-inspired cover stories
are that the missile was actually an amateur rocket or an optical illusion.
Experts agree that this was a ballistic missile being fired off of Los Angeles.

Pentagon insists it was a jet aircraft or model rocket.

There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles
International Airport or from other airports in the region. The Navy and Air
Force have said that they were not conducting any missile tests from submarines,
ships, or Vandenberg Air Force Base. The Navy has also ruled out an accidental
firing from one of its own submarines.

Missile experts, including those from Jane's in London, say the plume was
definitely from a missile, possibly launched from a submarine. WMR has learned
that the missile was likely a JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and
was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S.
territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such
missiles.

Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese
territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely posseses intercepts
of Chinese telemtry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing
operations.

Japanese and other Asian intelligence agencies believe that a Chinese Jin-class
SSBN submarine conducted missile "show of force" in skies west of Los Angeles.
Asian intelligence sources believe the submarine transited from its base on
Hainan through South Pacific waters, where U.S. anti-submarine warfare detection
capabilities are not as effective as they are in the northern and mid-Pacific,
and then transited north to waters off of Los Angeles. The Pentagon, which has
spent billions on ballistic missile defense systems, a pet project of former
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, is clearly embarrassed over the Chinese show
of strength.

Likely route of Jin-class submarine from Hainan base.
The White House also wants to donwplay the missile story before Presidnet Obama
meets with his Chinese counterpart in Seoul and Tokyo. According to Japanese
intelligence sources, Beijing has been angry over United States and allied naval
exercises in the South China and Yellow Seas, in what China considers its sphere
of influence, and the missile firing within the view of people in Southern
California was a demonstration that China's navy can also play in waters off the
American coast.

For the U.S. Navy, the Chinese show of force is a huge embarassment, especially
for the Navy's Pacific Command in Pearl Harbor, where Japan's December 7, 1941
attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbor remains a sore subject.

In 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice reportedly scolded visiting
Chinese General Xiong Guankai, the deputy chief of staff for intelligence of the
People's Liberation Army, for remarks he allegedly made in 1995 that China would
use nuclear weapons on Los Angeles. Xiong denied he made any such comments but
the "spin" on the story helped convince Congress to sink billions of additional
dollars into ballistic missile defense, sometimes referred to at "Star Wars
II."
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor