Soul sleep

[micah7:9]

"But  it does not say he was awake  or eyes opened until     they both knew sin/error  by  eating    of the tree of knowledge of good and evil    ..
  for me that was  the biggest  clue 
and the DAY they eat they would die    so the  awaking to sin and death was   the  curse of Adam that we all die in ... " rosered

Just adding some thoughts

Gen 3:6  And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
My understanding,  the woman already had sinned[missed the mark] when she SAW, good for food,  pleasant to the eyes, desired to get wise, THEN she ate and gave to man and THEN THEIR EYES WERE OPENED. 
I do believe that the man even though he spoke the first dialogue in the Bible, was still not awake from that "deep sleep" and still at that point they were ONE flesh; 
Gen 2:24  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 2:25  And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
until Gen 3:7  And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;

[sheila]

when your decieved aren't you blind?  when you listen to your decieved soul aren't you deaf?

[micah7:9]

Don't know. Do you? :dsunny:

[rosered]

"But  it does not say he was awake  or eyes opened until     they both knew sin/error  by  eating    of the tree of knowledge of good and evil    ..
  for me that was  the biggest  clue 
and the DAY they eat they would die    so the  awaking to sin and death was   the  curse of Adam that we all die in ... " rosered

Just adding some thoughts

Gen 3:6  And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
My understanding,  the woman already had sinned[missed the mark] when she SAW, good for food,  pleasant to the eyes, desired to get wise, THEN she ate and gave to man and THEN THEIR EYES WERE OPENED. 
I do believe that the man even though he spoke the first dialogue in the Bible, was still not awake from that "deep sleep" and still at that point they were ONE flesh; 
Gen 2:24  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 2:25  And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
until Gen 3:7  And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;

YES , you do understand the gist of it 

Adams  transgression was  hidden in blame to the woman YOU gave me from within  himself !!
Gen 3:12 The man said, "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate." 

31:33   If I covered my transgressions as Adam, by hiding mine iniquity in my bosom: 


Job 31:34   Did I fear a great multitude, or did the contempt of families terrify me, that I kept silence, and went not out of the door? 


Job 31:35   Oh that one would hear me! behold, my desire [is, that] the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book. 


Job 31:36   Surely I would take it upon my shoulder, and bind it as a crown to me. 


Job 31:37   I would declare unto him the number of my steps; as a prince would I go near unto him. 



Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Adams sin   to transgress and error  was to blame God for his fear  of  being in Gods presence[nakedness ]  and blame the woman   whom never recieved the direct command    Not to eat  of this tree    that Adam did recive   from God ,  and you see Job was not going to do that, blame God for anything  , he just wanted to understand   why he was being tormented !!

for me , Eve transgressed by believing the serpent [ liar and false accusser and murderer ]
I hope this clears up what was trying to be said ..  though both being of one flesh

[anna274]

Two scriptures that I have pondered for a very long time re:  ...not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression. 


Gen 3:17
And unto Adam He said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it:  cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shall thou eat of it all the days of thy life.

Job 2:9-10
Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity?  curse God, and die.

But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh,  What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil?  In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

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A couple years ago I did a study-- whose voice do we need hearken... very interesting stuff...   Abraham hearkened to the voice of his wife and Ishmael was born...Adam hearkened  to the voice of his wife and the ground was cursed...

[WhiteWings]

Back to the OP... :-)

Some think people who die, don't really die, but basically instantly continue living with God "on the other side".

What I'm wondering is this.
Jesus died and stayed dead for 3 days.
He went to heaven 40 days after resurrection.
If 'we' would do those things instantly, wouldn't that mean the student is doing better than the Master?
:dontknow:

[rosered]

  Thank you Anna , great point !  good observation sis!!

[marie glen]

I don't believe humans have inherent immortality.. otherwise we would not "put on immortality" at the resurrection/gathering to Him..

"a great cloud of witnesses" I believe refers to the great day of judgment of all things/review.. when all who have lived will witness that 'day'..

[eaglesway]

  Thank you Anna , great point !  good observation sis!!

Amen

"Be careful how you hear, for to the one who has more shall be given. To the one who has not, even that which he has shall be taken away."

"Let the one who has ears hear what the Spirit is saying to the called out ones."