Natural and Spiritual

[jabcat]

What do you mean about me having some honors?  :grin:

I dont want no honors  :grin:

What did ya do?

Just being silly Kimmie, sorry, shouldn't have interrupted.  I posted my silly post at #1000, joking, but then decided to move mine down under yours so you could have "the honors"...I don't think anything really happens, no button or ribbon (oh, OK, I'll give you this :first:) but hey, it's the first time it's ever happened here as far as I know, so whether you admit it or not, it does make you at least a little special.  :thumbsup:  OK I'll get out of here and let you guys continue talking about important things.

[Molly]

Ofcourse its Christ in you, first Adam formed from the dust and second Adam formed is formed in us the two become one flesh

But as the woman literally gives birth in the physical (after much tribulation), the soul 'gives birth' to the Christ?

[Taffy]

Heres a few scriptures on the Church (men in the pic but shown as a woman)  :grin:

Christ used ~this example~ speaking of his disciples (men there) of A WOMAN giving BIRTH to be delivered of the CHILD, that A MAN might be brought into the world when explaining to his disciples (men) what it would be like when He came TO THEM.

Childbearing manstyle  :grin:

Jerm 30:6 Ask ye NOW, and see whether ~A MAN~ doth travail WITH CHILD? wherefore do I see EVERY MAN with his hands on his loins, AS A WOMAN in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

Jerm 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the Lord hath CREATED a new thing in the earth, A WOMAN shall compass A MAN.


Isaiah 26:17 Like as a WOMAN with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have WE been in thy sight, O LORD.

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I TRAVAIL in birth again until Christ be FORMED IN YOU,

So we be "no more children" but Sons

To wipe away the Tears, No more pain, No more sorrow , for HER ""HOUR" has\IS come FOR""JOY"=Christ in us)

Jhn 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Jhn 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

Jhn 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 

Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

FOR SORROW will BE TURNED TO""""""""""" JOY""""""""""""""""( Christ in US)

Jhn 16:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.


Jhn 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for """joy""" that a man is born into the world.


Jhn 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your ****joy *****no man taketh from you.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Luk 1:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.  (HIS birth in us)

Did NOT JOHN  ALSO ""LEAP FOR ""jOY""" :icon_flower:

Luk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Luk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of*** great joy****, which shall be to all people.


Luk 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward [is] great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. 

Luk 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:


  Jhn 15:11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and [that] your joy might be full. 

Paul states we HELPERS OF THIS **JOY**in out Hearts

2Cr 1:24 Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your """joy"""": for by faith ye stand.


For wheres Theres JOY ,There will be NO more tears or sorrow as FORMER THINGS HAVE PASSED away( Ministration of DEATH)

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
 

[rosered]

 

  wow ! ,  :icon_flower:  there is nothing more to add guys cept this maybe  :thumbsup:



Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you,


and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:


Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;


Col 1:26 [Even] the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what [is] the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:


Col 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:


Col 1:29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

  :HeartThrob:

[claypot]

Fire: Interesting CP I'd love to see an orderly serpent 

Yo Fire, I am using Adam, Eve and Serpent as indicating one person and you were hungry so you probably missed what I wrote in anticipation of what you wrote...I tried to indicate that when man is fully made in God's image then the serpent will be gone. As a matter of fact I think the serpent only is present when a person is behaving in a soulish way.

cp

I was in anticipation for some soup and wrote cha while I was anticipating some grub  :grin: My God was my belly momentarily, I betcha it was my inner serpent  :grin:

Okay are you saying we have three made one flesh Adam, Eve and the Serpent and Eve will become the mother of the living when Adam our outer man dies and the serpent goes away some day? Is Christ anywhere in this picture or is Christ just the natural result of those three working it out as one?

Yes, I like that.

I am a person. I want to know who I am in relation to God and all men. All the verses quoted are very important but to me they are only helpful as they literally speak to me today in a language I can understand. Otherwise they are just neat verses.

I am a person. By the grace of God I see the Christ (a spiritual essence) in me. I see a soulish, thinking, sensual essence. I still see remnants of the serpent essence in me too. I would be a liar if I said I didn't.

Yes, Fire, I see the serpent gradually decreasing as Jesus Christ increases and it gives me great joy. I believe the serpent will cease to exist at some point when Christ is fully formed in me and in you and in all, when God becomes all in all. I also see my soulish essence slowly aligning itself in a proper way to my spiritual essence and I am living a better life because of it.

You summed it up nicely in your above words.

Now to go look more deeply at all the other good comments here!

This is so helpful to me. The patience of you people is astounding, to put up with the likes of me.

BTW, I do see Jesus Christ and much of Scripture as a literal physical realtity too.

cp

[claypot]

1Co 15:45-49  If there is a soulish body, there is a spiritual also. Thus it is written also, The first man, Adam, "became a living soul: the last Adam a vivifying Spirit."  (46)  But not first the spiritual, but the soulish, thereupon the spiritual."  (47)  The first man was out of the earth, soilish; the second Man is the Lord out of heaven."  (48)  Such as the soilish one is, such are those also who are soilish, and such as the Celestial One, such are those also who are celestials."  (49)  And according as we wear the image of the soilish, we should be wearing the image also of the Celestial."

Two Adams.

Two different origins.

Two different makeups.

Two different destinies for mankind.

Hi Tony,

Great words. You quoted some Scripture that especially speak to my heart.

I think of Scripture where it says to put off the old man and put on the new. I think this is talking to one entity.

Two Adams, I think so too.

Two different origens, I think not. Are you saying people were made from two different sources?

Two different make-ups and destinies, I agree.

cp

[claypot]

30 I will not talk with you much more, for the prince (evil genius, ruler) of the world is coming. And he has no claim on Me. [He has nothing in common with Me; there is nothing in Me that belongs to him, and he has no power over Me.]

    31 But [Satan is coming and] I do as the Father has commanded Me, so that the world may know (be convinced) that I love the Father and that I do only what the Father has instructed Me to do. [I act in full agreement with His orders.] Rise, let us go away from here.

--John 14




30Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
--John 14

Beautiful words Molly and I am hearing. The serpent never could get a firm grip on Jesus the divine, could 'he'?

I see this in 'the chosen' too. The Kingdom of God just keeps no trucking within.

cp

[claypot]

Molly: But as the woman literally gives birth in the physical (after much tribulation), the soul 'gives birth' to the Christ?

That seems so right to me Molly. You did write that didn't you Molly or was it from someone else? No matter, just didn't want to be inaccurate. Thanks.

cp

[rosered]

I see the serpent gradually decreasing as Jesus Christ increases and it gives me great joy. I believe the serpent will cease to exist at some point when Christ is fully formed in me and in you and in all, when God becomes all in all.

 Hi Clay ,
yes  the serpents head is crushed  :thumbsup:


Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between you  and the woman, and between your  seed and her seed; it shall bruise your  head, and you

shall bruise his heel.

Rom 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly.


The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you. Amen.

  Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan,


which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold,
 
 I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
 these connect to me as  3 witnesses speaking the same things

   :HeartThrob:

[claypot]

Fire: I dont know which part of "me" (soul or spirit) gives birth to Christ though.

I don't see parts. I don't see 3 seperate entities in me. I see me. I see Jesus. I see the old man. I see the new man. But, Fire, I do understand what you are saying. It's so hard to put into words isn't it? You do very well though IMO.

As to how Christ is birthed in people I think of 2 areas of Scripture that have helped me much.....

But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by His grace, to reveal His Son in me.... gala1.15

For God so loves the world (people and ....) that He sent........jn3.16

Christ is birthed (revealed) when and where God feels like it and this is accomplished by God sending His Son, which I see as another way of saying He reveals His Son.

This revealing says much to me. It indicates that the Christ is there all the time, just not revealed. While Paul was stealing, killing and destroying, Christ was 'in' him but not revealed. Amazing when I look at my life over the years, absolutely amazing parallel.

cp

[Molly]

15But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

16To reveal his Son in me,

--Gal 1


"reveal"

G601
ἀποκαλύπτω
apokaluptō
ap-ok-al-oop'-to
From G575 and G2572; to take off the cover, that is, disclose: - reveal.


Oh my goodness...apokalupto...That's the Apocalypse?  The lifting of the veil?  :mshock:


:bgdance:

[chuckt]

Oh my goodness...apokalupto...That's the Apocalypse?

what does mel gibson and his movies have to do with anything?  :dontknow:

:reachout: :myahoo: :pointlaugh: :LH: :myahoo: :gimmefive:

[Taffy]

15But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

16To reveal his Son in me,

--1 Gal


"reveal"

G601
ἀποκαλύπτω
apokaluptō
ap-ok-al-oop'-to
From G575 and G2572; to take off the cover, that is, disclose: - reveal.


Oh my goodness...apokalupto...That's the Apocalypse?  The lifting of the veil?  :mshock:


:bgdance:

Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.


Rev 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.


Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, [and] so great.


Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high 

[Zeek]

Heres a few scriptures on the Church (men in the pic but shown as a woman)  :grin:

Christ used ~this example~ speaking of his disciples (men there) of A WOMAN giving BIRTH to be delivered of the CHILD, that A MAN might be brought into the world when explaining to his disciples (men) what it would be like when He came TO THEM.

Childbearing manstyle  :grin:

Jerm 30:6 Ask ye NOW, and see whether ~A MAN~ doth travail WITH CHILD? wherefore do I see EVERY MAN with his hands on his loins, AS A WOMAN in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

Jerm 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the Lord hath CREATED a new thing in the earth, A WOMAN shall compass A MAN.


Isaiah 26:17 Like as a WOMAN with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have WE been in thy sight, O LORD.

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I TRAVAIL in birth again until Christ be FORMED IN YOU,

So we be "no more children" but Sons

To wipe away the Tears, No more pain, No more sorrow , for HER ""HOUR" has\IS come FOR""JOY"=Christ in us)

Jhn 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Jhn 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

Jhn 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 

Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

FOR SORROW will BE TURNED TO""""""""""" JOY""""""""""""""""( Christ in US)

Jhn 16:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.


Jhn 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for """joy""" that a man is born into the world.


Jhn 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your ****joy *****no man taketh from you.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Luk 1:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.  (HIS birth in us)

Did NOT JOHN  ALSO ""LEAP FOR ""jOY""" :icon_flower:

Luk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Luk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of*** great joy****, which shall be to all people.


Luk 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward [is] great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. 

Luk 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:


  Jhn 15:11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and [that] your joy might be full. 

Paul states we HELPERS OF THIS **JOY**in out Hearts

2Cr 1:24 Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your """joy"""": for by faith ye stand.


For wheres Theres JOY ,There will be NO more tears or sorrow as FORMER THINGS HAVE PASSED away( Ministration of DEATH)

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
 

T, I appreciate so much these scriptures.  What I gather from your post, is that JOY is something we can experience now, no more tears is somethign we can experience NOW, (even though we may still feel sadness, and cry etc.).  The child is delivered NOW.  

JOY is now, Christ in us; a new creation; OLD things are passed away;

yet many here will say that they are both "old Adam" and "new Adam", still not having the satan crushed, stil being carnal.  They believe that the SON is being "created" rather than "created"; and we are "putting off (present tense) the OLD", and putting on (present tense) the NEW; rather than "past tense".  They see "perfection" as being "sinless".  

Can you or anyone here help me to understand how we can be NEW, old passed away, JOY with no more tears,

yet

still have carnal that needs to be burned out of us, still have first Adam as our origin, rather than him being dead.  

1Jn 3:2  Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.  

I have a feeling that this verse is not "behavior oriented", as in we still have to be "better" in order to see Him, but rather seeing HIM will be confirmation of who we are.  

struggling,

Z

[Molly]

Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.


You're tempting me now, Taffy... :laughing7:


[a place called] "Armageddon"

G717
Ἀρμαγεδδών
Armageddōn
ar-mag-ed-dohn'
Of Hebrew origin [H2022] and [H4023]; Armageddon (or Har-Megiddon), a symbolical name: - Armageddon.

H2022
הר
har
har
A shortened form of H2042; a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively): - hill (country), mount (-ain), X promotion.


H4023
מגדּו    מגדּון
megiddôn  megiddô
meg-id-done', meg-id-do'
From H1413; rendezvous; Megiddon or Megiddo, a place in Palestine: - Megiddo, Megiddon.


H1413
גּדד
gâdad
gaw-dad'
A primitive root (compare H1461); to crowd; also to gash (as if by pressing into): - assemble (selves by troops), gather (selves together, self in troops).




A mountain of troops...A mountain rendezvous [of troops]...




13And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?

14And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?

15And the captain of the LORD's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.

--Josh 5



[the captain of the LORD's] "host"

H6635
צבאה    צבא
tsâbâ'  tsebâ'âh
tsaw-baw', tseb-aw-aw'
From H6633; a mass of persons (or figurative things), especially regularly organized for war (an army); by implication a campaign, literally or figuratively (specifically hardship, worship): - appointed time, (+) army, (+) battle, company, host, service, soldiers, waiting upon, war (-fare).





44And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

45Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

--Daniel 2

[Molly]

Strange how the church tells us Armageddon is a valley....when it's really....a mountain...

:mshock:

[Taffy]

Heres a few scriptures on the Church (men in the pic but shown as a woman)  :grin:

Christ used ~this example~ speaking of his disciples (men there) of A WOMAN giving BIRTH to be delivered of the CHILD, that A MAN might be brought into the world when explaining to his disciples (men) what it would be like when He came TO THEM.

Childbearing manstyle  :grin:

Jerm 30:6 Ask ye NOW, and see whether ~A MAN~ doth travail WITH CHILD? wherefore do I see EVERY MAN with his hands on his loins, AS A WOMAN in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

Jerm 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the Lord hath CREATED a new thing in the earth, A WOMAN shall compass A MAN.


Isaiah 26:17 Like as a WOMAN with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have WE been in thy sight, O LORD.

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I TRAVAIL in birth again until Christ be FORMED IN YOU,

So we be "no more children" but Sons

To wipe away the Tears, No more pain, No more sorrow , for HER ""HOUR" has\IS come FOR""JOY"=Christ in us)

Jhn 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Jhn 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

Jhn 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 

Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

FOR SORROW will BE TURNED TO""""""""""" JOY""""""""""""""""( Christ in US)

Jhn 16:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.


Jhn 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for """joy""" that a man is born into the world.


Jhn 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your ****joy *****no man taketh from you.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Luk 1:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.  (HIS birth in us)

Did NOT JOHN  ALSO ""LEAP FOR ""jOY""" :icon_flower:

Luk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Luk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of*** great joy****, which shall be to all people.


Luk 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward [is] great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets. 

Luk 24:52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:


  Jhn 15:11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and [that] your joy might be full. 

Paul states we HELPERS OF THIS **JOY**in out Hearts

2Cr 1:24 Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your """joy"""": for by faith ye stand.


For wheres Theres JOY ,There will be NO more tears or sorrow as FORMER THINGS HAVE PASSED away( Ministration of DEATH)

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
 

T, I appreciate so much these scriptures.  What I gather from your post, is that JOY is something we can experience now, no more tears is somethign we can experience NOW, (even though we may still feel sadness, and cry etc.).  The child is delivered NOW.  

JOY is now, Christ in us; a new creation; OLD things are passed away;

yet many here will say that they are both "old Adam" and "new Adam", still not having the satan crushed, stil being carnal.  They believe that the SON is being "created" rather than "created"; and we are "putting off (present tense) the OLD", and putting on (present tense) the NEW; rather than "past tense".  They see "perfection" as being "sinless".  

Can you or anyone here help me to understand how we can be NEW, old passed away, JOY with no more tears,

yet

still have carnal that needs to be burned out of us, still have first Adam as our origin, rather than him being dead.  

1Jn 3:2  Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.  

I have a feeling that this verse is not "behavior oriented", as in we still have to be "better" in order to see Him, but rather seeing HIM will be confirmation of who we are.  

struggling,

Z

Hi Z
I see My perfection IN HIM, not me ,My flesh has died , therefore Its No longer I who Live, but Him IN ME..OUR HOPE of GLORY.

I still suffer in this Body , as well all do ,  i dont see a perfection of the  flesh...but i do see a growth  of His love through\in me ,

2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.


2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;


2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;


2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.


2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make [you that ye shall] neither [be] barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins

:icon_flower:

[claypot]

15But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

16To reveal his Son in me,

--Gal 1


"reveal"

G601
ἀποκαλύπτω
apokaluptō
ap-ok-al-oop'-to
From G575 and G2572; to take off the cover, that is, disclose: - reveal.


Oh my goodness...apokalupto...That's the Apocalypse?  The lifting of the veil?  :mshock:


:bgdance:

This is why it has been a favorite passage of mine for many years.

cp

[Taffy]

Strange how the church tells us Armageddon is a valley....when it's really....a mountain...

:mshock:

:thumbsup:

[Molly]

This is why it has been a favorite passage of mine for many years.

cp

Are you Mel Gibson? :mshock:


(I love Mel Gibson) :happy3:


ok nevermind...Im leaving now...

[Taffy]

This is why it has been a favorite passage of mine for many years.

cp

Are you Mel Gibson? :mshock:


(I love Mel Gibson) :happy3:

No, That be Nate :icon_king:

[claypot]

Z, we are growing. I think we will always be growing in some form. It is good to grow from one state of being to another and in the transition we will invariably be in both worlds at the same time until the old totally passes away.

You know I kind of hope the old never passes away in one sense, I hope it passes away in the sense that I learn to deal with it better. Do you understand?

cp

[Molly]

This is why it has been a favorite passage of mine for many years.

cp

Are you Mel Gibson? :mshock:


(I love Mel Gibson) :happy3:

No, That be Nate :icon_king:

Nathan Nate?  Or another Nate?

I prefer to think it's Mel Gibson...

[Taffy]

We've talked about this many times before over the years the scriptures show this so beautifully dont they?

Amen sis :icon_flower:

Yeah , quite a few times, and they still blow me away :cloud9:
:icon_flower:

[Taffy]

This is why it has been a favorite passage of mine for many years.

cp

Are you Mel Gibson? :mshock:


(I love Mel Gibson) :happy3:

No, That be Nate :icon_king:

Nathan Nate?  Or another Nate?

I prefer to think it's Mel Gibson...

Nathan, Crowbar, Nate :icon_flower: