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[Taffy]

Tony we are seeing points from a different age perspective :HeartThrob:

Blessings
G

Hi Taffy,
The present wicked eon/age (Gal.1:4) has not ended yet and so the reaping of the wheat and tares has not yet occurred.

No where in the New Testament is it said that the reaping is one at a time in any age/eon.

Afternoon Tony

Weve been through the Temple Thread Bro..got no wheres...weve been thro the Wheat and Tares got No wheres
we been throu Just One verse Discussing Childbearing..GOT no wheres....and this is Going No wheres too Bro...

Next will be the Rapture, then something else,..they will go no wheres too...Bud maybe your knocking ya head agin a wall....opps yes ya did dint Bro...You are Not going to Convinve NOBODY( unless they see similar to you) ....

Happy Rapture Bro..Tell me whats its like when ya Get there..Ill be waitin.... :HeartThrob:


Bof Is Still awaiting an answer he gave you, try Him Bro...cos ya kinda guffed over Inocent and Ignorant didnt ya?

[Tony N]

Tony we are seeing points from a different age perspective :HeartThrob:

Blessings
G

Hi Taffy,
The present wicked eon/age (Gal.1:4) has not ended yet and so the reaping of the wheat and tares has not yet occurred.

No where in the New Testament is it said that the reaping is one at a time in any age/eon.

Afternoon Tony

Weve been through the Temple Thread Bro..got no wheres...weve been thro the Wheat and Tares got No wheres
we been throu Just One verse Discussing Childbearing..GOT no wheres....and this is Going No wheres too Bro...

Next will be the Rapture, then something else,..they will go no wheres too...Bud maybe your knocking ya head agin a wall....opps yes ya did dint Bro...You are Not going to Convinve NOBODY( unless they see similar to you) ....

Happy Rapture Bro..Tell me whats its like when ya Get there..Ill be waitin.... :HeartThrob:


Bof Is Still awaiting an answer he gave you, try Him Bro...cos ya kinda guffed over Inocent and Ignorant didnt ya?

That's O.K. Taffy, cause they didn't believe Christ or the disciples either. I doubt I will see you in the rapture.

Tootles.

[Tony N]

The cities fall or the tenth part of them falling?

Read Revelation 19

[Taffy]

Tony we are seeing points from a different age perspective :HeartThrob:

Blessings
G

Hi Taffy,
The present wicked eon/age (Gal.1:4) has not ended yet and so the reaping of the wheat and tares has not yet occurred.

No where in the New Testament is it said that the reaping is one at a time in any age/eon.

How do you know that Tony?

How do you know what age he was talking about?

Certainly the age of the Mosaic Law and Levite priesthood ended 2000 years ago.


Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Dear Molly, we need to keep with the Scriptures. There is nothing in the bible that says anything about "the age of the Mosaic Law etc".

Every major eon in the Bible ends with an earth shattering event. The first eon ended with the earth becoming chaos and vacant (Gen.1:2).
The next eon ended with the earth being destroyed by water (Gen.6-9).
The next eon (this eon which began when the waters receded from Noah's flood and a new earth came out of those waters) will end with an earthquake in which all the cities of the nations will fall and the islands will be moved.
That eon will end with the earth being destroyed by fire and the new earth coming out of that.

That is how I know this eon has not ended yet.

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Yony there a re a few here who could show you,,but it would fall on deaf ears Brud.....ya going to have IT YOUR way..which is cool,  :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:

[Taffy]

That's O.K. Taffy, cause they didn't believe Christ or the disciples either. I doubt I will see you in the rapture.

Tootles.

yes ya will Tony........ as FAITH via Grace is what Counts.....and No one here are denying HIS words , even if you think they are, youve been shown a different perspective time and Time again.... :HeartThrob:

[Tony N]

Tony we are seeing points from a different age perspective :HeartThrob:

Blessings
G

Hi Taffy,
The present wicked eon/age (Gal.1:4) has not ended yet and so the reaping of the wheat and tares has not yet occurred.

No where in the New Testament is it said that the reaping is one at a time in any age/eon.

How do you know that Tony?

How do you know what age he was talking about?

Certainly the age of the Mosaic Law and Levite priesthood ended 2000 years ago.


Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Dear Molly, we need to keep with the Scriptures. There is nothing in the bible that says anything about "the age of the Mosaic Law etc".

Every major eon in the Bible ends with an earth shattering event. The first eon ended with the earth becoming chaos and vacant (Gen.1:2).
The next eon ended with the earth being destroyed by water (Gen.6-9).
The next eon (this eon which began when the waters receded from Noah's flood and a new earth came out of those waters) will end with an earthquake in which all the cities of the nations will fall and the islands will be moved.
That eon will end with the earth being destroyed by fire and the new earth coming out of that.

That is how I know this eon has not ended yet.

Yony there a re a few here who could show you,,but it would fall on deaf ears Brud.....ya going to have IT YOUR way..which is cool,  :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower: :icon_flower:

Well, anyone can show me by going against the Bible. That's simple. Just make up what Christ said to be something other than what he said or make up anything different than what the Bible said. But that doesn't really prove anything, now does it?

BTW it's not my way. I quoted Scripture and it is sound. Every major eon ends with an earth shattering experience to the earth. If not then bring forth your super duper people here who can prove the Bible wrong.

[Molly]

Tony we are seeing points from a different age perspective :HeartThrob:

Blessings
G

Hi Taffy,
The present wicked eon/age (Gal.1:4) has not ended yet and so the reaping of the wheat and tares has not yet occurred.

No where in the New Testament is it said that the reaping is one at a time in any age/eon.

How do you know that Tony?

How do you know what age he was talking about?

Certainly the age of the Mosaic Law and Levite priesthood ended 2000 years ago.


Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Dear Molly, we need to keep with the Scriptures. There is nothing in the bible that says anything about "the age of the Mosaic Law etc".

Every major eon in the Bible ends with an earth shattering event. The first eon ended with the earth becoming chaos and vacant (Gen.1:2).
The next eon ended with the earth being destroyed by water (Gen.6-9).
The next eon (this eon which began when the waters receded from Noah's flood and a new earth came out of those waters) will end with an earthquake in which all the cities of the nations will fall and the islands will be moved.
That eon will end with the earth being destroyed by fire and the new earth coming out of that.

That is how I know this eon has not ended yet.

[/quote]I've given you a lot of quotes, but I just gave you one where Paul says there is a new covenant and the old one is obsolete and will soon fade away.   That is huge.  Let's take a moment and think about how huge that is.  We now have a new priesthood.  It's almost a different religion in how it [should be] practiced.

There's nothing in Rev 20, which gives a sequence of events, about the earth being destroyed by fire, so I'm not sure how to address that one, or whether I would even consider it literal if I could.  I'm not saying this eon has ended yet, I'm saying that the eon ended when Jesus was crucified and resurrected, and definitely ended in 70 ad.

Rev 20 mentions nothing about the earth ending in fire.

Anyway, maybe the wheat and tares is a done deal as of 2000 years ago.

[Taffy]

Well, anyone can show me by going against the Bible. That's simple. Just make up what Christ said to be something other than what he said or make up anything different than what the Bible said. But that doesn't really prove anything, now does it?

BTW it's not my way. I quoted Scripture and it is sound. Every major eon ends with an earth shattering experience to the earth. If not then bring forth your super duper people here who can prove the Bible wrong.

now theres a laugh...

you were shown Muliples of Scripture ON one Verse alone and all you did was spout from ya Mouth Bro, setting certain friction in women folk..go check the posts and see who quoted Most scriptures and you may find you are way short on that Count.

SO please DONT give me that, it dont wash, what you cant see bro,,are the similtudes, the Types and shadows, and bro ya left wanting......

if you want to come here to preach Bro, maybe your in the wrong Place......just a Point to consider....

[Tony N]

Molly, look at the eons and how each eon ends with catastrophe and note the verses involved:
(http://saviourofall.org/images/EonsSml3.jpg)

[Molly]

I'm having trouble reading that, but they put Christ crucified in the middle of the present eon?

That doesn't even make sense.

Christ crucified is so momentous it would have to be the ending of one and the beginning of another.

Don't you think?

Are they saying that satan is currently chained?  right now?  That's a horrifying thought..

[Tony N]

Well, anyone can show me by going against the Bible. That's simple. Just make up what Christ said to be something other than what he said or make up anything different than what the Bible said. But that doesn't really prove anything, now does it?

BTW it's not my way. I quoted Scripture and it is sound. Every major eon ends with an earth shattering experience to the earth. If not then bring forth your super duper people here who can prove the Bible wrong.

now theres a laugh...

you were shown Muliples of Scripture ON one Verse alone and all you did was spout from ya Mouth Bro, setting certain friction in women folk..go check the posts and see who quoted Most scriptures and you may find you are way short on that Count.

SO please DONT give me that, it dont wash, what you cant see bro,,are the similtudes, the Types and shadows, and bro ya left wanting......

if you want to come here to preach Bro, maybe your in the wrong Place......just a Point to consider....

Dear Taffy, LOL

[Tony N]

I'm having trouble reading that, but they put Christ crucified in the middle of the present eon?

That doesn't even make sense.

Christ crucified is so momentous it would have to be the ending of one and the beginning of another.

Don't you think?

Are they saying that satan is currently chained?  right now?  That's a horrifying thought..

Dear Molly,
Please note Christ's discourse to the disciples in Matthew 24 and 25 as to when the eon in which they were living was to end. No mention is made that that eon would end when Christ came or when Christ died.

Here is another chart more visible.
(http://saviourofall.org/images/EonsKirkChart.GIF)

Or go here:

http://saviourofall.org/charts/KirkEonChart.html

[Taffy]

Every major eon ends with an earth shattering experience to the earth. If not then bring forth your super duper people here who can prove the Bible wrong

Bro..you have been shown on ege..the end of the WORLD etc....its been done,OR TRIED BY A FEW FOLK ..cant ya understand we are  coming from different perspectives...and nobody here want to argue about..

But ya aint going to stuff NOTHING down folks throat Because TONY says Its SO and HE QUOTES the scriptures....

IM right your wrong.....Dont push folk to hard Tony.....Leave them where there at"""" UNTIL.."""""""

[Molly]

I'm having trouble reading that, but they put Christ crucified in the middle of the present eon?

That doesn't even make sense.

Christ crucified is so momentous it would have to be the ending of one and the beginning of another.

Don't you think?

Are they saying that satan is currently chained?  right now?  That's a horrifying thought..

Dear Molly,
Please note Christ's discourse to the disciples in Matthew 24 and 25 as to when the eon in which they were living was to end. No mention is made that that eon would end when Christ came or when Christ died.

Here is another chart more visible.
(http://saviourofall.org/images/EonsKirkChart.GIF)

I thought he starts out Chapter 24 by saying there won't be one stone standing upon another of the temple in Jerusalem.  Then he goes on to explain the signs leading up to that event.  Isn't that a reasonable way to read that?

[Taffy]

Well, anyone can show me by going against the Bible. That's simple. Just make up what Christ said to be something other than what he said or make up anything different than what the Bible said. But that doesn't really prove anything, now does it?

BTW it's not my way. I quoted Scripture and it is sound. Every major eon ends with an earth shattering experience to the earth. If not then bring forth your super duper people here who can prove the Bible wrong.

now theres a laugh...

you were shown Muliples of Scripture ON one Verse alone and all you did was spout from ya Mouth Bro, setting certain friction in women folk..go check the posts and see who quoted Most scriptures and you may find you are way short on that Count.

SO please DONT give me that, it dont wash, what you cant see bro,,are the similtudes, the Types and shadows, and bro ya left wanting......

if you want to come here to preach Bro, maybe your in the wrong Place......just a Point to consider....

Dear Taffy, LOL

So I take that as You confirm..because ya Never denied it did you....Go count, then come back and Laugh

[Tony N]

Every major eon ends with an earth shattering experience to the earth. If not then bring forth your super duper people here who can prove the Bible wrong

Bro..you have been shown on ege..the end of the WORLD etc....its been done,OR TRIED BY A FEW FOLK ..cant ya understand we are  coming from different perspectives...and nobody here want to argue about..

But ya aint going to stuff NOTHING down folks throat Because TONY says Its SO and HE QUOTES the scriptures....

IM right your wrong.....Dont push folk to hard Tony.....Leave them where there at"""" UNTIL.."""""""

Dear Taffy,

Please, don't get all emotional on me. Just keep with the topic. Threats are not part of this topic. It is about figures of speech and spiritual and figurative. unless you are just being figurative about your veiled threats? LOL

[Taffy]

oh By the way Mr Inquisition

Bob F still waiting..and I am...but i dare say we will wait a long time cos when ya get lost ya run...Prove me wrong Bud.

go answer Him...Mr Inquisition :icon_flower:

[Tony N]

I'm having trouble reading that, but they put Christ crucified in the middle of the present eon?

That doesn't even make sense.

Christ crucified is so momentous it would have to be the ending of one and the beginning of another.

Don't you think?

Are they saying that satan is currently chained?  right now?  That's a horrifying thought..

Dear Molly,
Please note Christ's discourse to the disciples in Matthew 24 and 25 as to when the eon in which they were living was to end. No mention is made that that eon would end when Christ came or when Christ died.

I thought he starts out Chapter 24 by saying there won't be one stone standing upon another of the temple in Jerusalem.  Then he goes on to explain the signs leading up to that event.  Isn't that a reasonable way to read that?

Dear Molly, it is not just about that. Please see that even Christ spoke about the great earthquake which must come before this eon ends.

[Taffy]

Every major eon ends with an earth shattering experience to the earth. If not then bring forth your super duper people here who can prove the Bible wrong

Bro..you have been shown on ege..the end of the WORLD etc....its been done,OR TRIED BY A FEW FOLK ..cant ya understand we are  coming from different perspectives...and nobody here want to argue about..

But ya aint going to stuff NOTHING down folks throat Because TONY says Its SO and HE QUOTES the scriptures....

IM right your wrong.....Dont push folk to hard Tony.....Leave them where there at"""" UNTIL.."""""""

Dear Taffy,

Please, don't get all emotional on me. Just keep with the topic. Threats are not part of this topic. It is about figures of speech and spiritual and figurative. unless you are just being figurative about your veiled threats? LOL

No Tony Not a Threat ..A POINT to Consider...... :HeartThrob:

Sorry Bud I know that ya favorite quote...lets get back on topic.. :laughing7:.

Again Tony No answer

[Tony N]

oh By the way Mr Inquisition

Bob F still waiting..and I am...but i dare say we will wait a long time cos when ya get lost ya run...Prove me wrong Bud.

go answer Him...Mr Inquisition :icon_flower:

I will see if I can find his post you want me to answer when I have time. Can you post the URL to it? In the meantime I have to go pick up my daughter and cousins and do some things with them.

I have run from no one here Taffy and surely won't run from Bob or you or anyone.

I will be praying for you in the time being.

Tony

[Taffy]

oh By the way Mr Inquisition

Bob F still waiting..and I am...but i dare say we will wait a long time cos when ya get lost ya run...Prove me wrong Bud.

go answer Him...Mr Inquisition :icon_flower:

I will see if I can find his post you want me to answer when I have time. Can you post the URL to it? In the meantime I have to go pick up my daughter and cousins and do some things with them.

I have run from no one here Taffy and surely won't run from Bob or you or anyone.

I will be praying for you in the time being.

Tony

Drive carefully Tony and sure No worries,, and no ones asking you to Run Bro....

Ditto :HeartThrob:

see ya later bud

[Molly]

Tony, Right in the middle of Mat 24, he says this--

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

So he's talking about events in Judaea, not in New York City.



Then he tells them about the fig tree--which we know he's been telling them for a while that the fig will produce no more fruit forever--relating to Israel--


32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.



In chapter 25, he says he is going to divide the nations--and today we do have great Christian nations, great Muslim nations, great Hindu nations, etc.

[Taffy]

Didnt Jesus appear once in the end of the world? End of what world then Tony?

But he was Lamb that was crucified BEFORE the foundation of the world, what world was that too? And yet the flood was a figure of batism itself, how do you work that?

Hey G want to take a stab at it?  :grin:

agh..A peaceful word....not Now sis maybe when me Head clears some...tis all yours if ya wish...theres a Pm in ya box for ya
xoxoxooxoxoxoxo

[Molly]

Hebrews 9:26
Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.

wow it says at the end of the ages.  You can't get much clearer than that.

Except does it mean all ages are now ended?

[Taffy]

Didnt Jesus appear once in the end of the world? End of what world then Tony?

But he was Lamb that was crucified BEFORE the foundation of the world, what world was that too? And yet the flood was a figure of batism itself, how do you work that?

Hey G want to take a stab at it?  :grin:

agh..A peaceful word....not Now sis maybe when me Head clears some...tis all yours if ya wish...theres a Pm in ya box for ya
xoxoxooxoxoxoxo

:grin: Me and Chrissie was going on this last year I thought it was pretty amazing, end of one world but before the foundation of one, the declaring "the end" FROM the beginning= Christ (whose name is both the beginning and the end) Pretty kool how he hides stuff, then theres the beginning of wisdom and the receiving the END of your faith  :grin: I wonder WHO?  :grin:

come to me some time back sis,dont know how far ya Got with it, theres sure a Lot tied up in those verses..like everything,
Like all scriptures sis...TIS HIM which they Testify too :icon_flower:

Brings in the end of Man 120 Years as with Moses( End of AGE), Rosey added some too not long back On the Days Be shortened 70 Yrs...it just goes on agh sis..heads a scramble kiddo.. :icon_flower:


AMEN
OH Nice verse Molly