Natural and Spiritual

[Taffy]

So let's just take this understanding to its logical conclusion: :wacko2:

"But the servant without understanding says in his heart; the Lord delays in his coming."

peacemaker

This is profound is right  peacemaker :thumbsup:

Ironically elsewhere it says the Lord comes to give us an understanding

Great verse!

Word of warning sis..got to Know PM from another forum, Kinda strayed over here..

Like I mentioned to Card,..What hes led to  share Is Most pertinent, BE it small in verse...Tis a Matter of the HEART :icon_flower:

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[rosered]

 
 Just got on once again , and its nightys time for the Grahamster  eh ?

 hey  where did everybody go??????? cooking eggs ? :mnah:

[Taffy]

Alrighty...I forgot MY today is YOUR tommorrow, welp we just be hens chatting up a storm, its a woman THANG but you are rather good at it as a man  :laughing7:

Ok so you went to sleep an hour ago and so that means your sleep talking with me then?  :grin:

Well you Girlies always Did dress me up wid a Skirt..What AM I doing with you Guys..Im an Alpha Male...., summats gone wrong somewheres :laughing7:

yup..went to sleep, Died a Little, Rose from My slumber and Found out it wasnt a DREAM after all :happy3:..ive always BEEN alive, Just didnt KNOW IT

You up for a little while? I got to throw on some eggs for the hubby real fast you gonna be around? Or are you headed off to bed?

Whats Sleep..Martins Given me some of His Stay awake pills...lol

Yeah..ill be around for an hour or so :icon_flower:

[Taffy]

 Just got on once again , and its nightys time for the Grahamster  eh ?

 hey  where did everybody go??????? cooking eggs ? :mnah:

yya Talk tooooo much Rosey..you and Kimmy are like a soap Opera...he haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Busting on yas

theyll be back girl.....but then Ill be sleepies

[rosered]

 Just got on once again , and its nightys time for the Grahamster  eh ?

 hey  where did everybody go??????? cooking eggs ? :mnah:

yya Talk tooooo much Rosey..you and Kimmy are like a soap Opera...he haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Busting on yas

theyll be back girl.....but then Ill be sleepies

 Now how do you know  I talk to much ? :mlaugh: :blah: :shout:


I am so glad you are doing much better bro , hope you are healing well and God  love ya , you are able to be with us still !  
love ya bits bro ... rose  :HeartThrob:

[Taffy]

 Just got on once again , and its nightys time for the Grahamster  eh ?

 hey  where did everybody go??????? cooking eggs ? :mnah:

yya Talk tooooo much Rosey..you and Kimmy are like a soap Opera...he haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Busting on yas

theyll be back girl.....but then Ill be sleepies

 Now how do you know  I talk to much ? :mlaugh: :blah: :shout:


I am so glad you are doing much better bro , hope you are healing well and God  love ya , you are able to be with us still !  
love ya bits bro ... rose  :HeartThrob:

Sis Your always so thoughtful of My condition...thank you :HeartThrob:

But its still the same Girl..back to the bandages and Acid once again..tis never ending girl.... :gangel: hearing you and other talking takes my mind of it some, So Please dont Stop :HeartThrob:

[Taffy]

 Just got on once again , and its nightys time for the Grahamster  eh ?

 hey  where did everybody go??????? cooking eggs ? :mnah:

yya Talk tooooo much Rosey..you and Kimmy are like a soap Opera...he haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Busting on yas

theyll be back girl.....but then Ill be sleepies

Actually she does alot of the listening, I even told her shes an excellent listener, she let me yap alot. She lends a good ear, it was my phone bateries that died in this conversation, usually its hers  :grin:

She bought a kickbutt new phone battery, Im atually jealous and I COVET it

and I repent too

Truths now coming out egh :laughing7: Tis your fault, and when did you learn to Talk so muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch :icon_jokercolor:

Tent will be Increasing its Bandwidth Just for you :laughing7:

:HeartThrob:

wont be long for sleepies ,Tis Play time for me... :icon_flower:

[rosered]

 Just got on once again , and its nightys time for the Grahamster  eh ?

 hey  where did everybody go??????? cooking eggs ? :mnah:

yya Talk tooooo much Rosey..you and Kimmy are like a soap Opera...he haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Busting on yas

theyll be back girl.....but then Ill be sleepies

Actually she does alot of the listening, I even told her shes an excellent listener, she let me yap alot. She lends a good ear, it was my phone bateries that died in this conversation, usually its hers  :grin:

She bought a kickbutt new phone battery, Im atually jealous and I COVET it

and I repent too

lol,  :mfriends: :flowerred:  






 was checking on Peacmakers  posts lol
 


 our ol buddy from Flagstaff ARIZONA

Indeed, Taffy, it's a matter of the heart!  
And, thanks for the welcome.

Jer (aka, Peacemaker)   Who is Jer?

[Taffy]

 Just got on once again , and its nightys time for the Grahamster  eh ?

 hey  where did everybody go??????? cooking eggs ? :mnah:

yya Talk tooooo much Rosey..you and Kimmy are like a soap Opera...he haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Busting on yas

theyll be back girl.....but then Ill be sleepies

 Now how do you know  I talk to much ? :mlaugh: :blah: :shout:


I am so glad you are doing much better bro , hope you are healing well and God  love ya , you are able to be with us still !  
love ya bits bro ... rose  :HeartThrob:

Sis Your always so thoughtful of My condition...thank you :HeartThrob:

But its still the same Girl..back to the bandages and Acid once again..tis never ending girl.... :gangel: hearing you and other talking takes my mind of it some, So Please dont Stop :HeartThrob:

Acid too Graham? Im sorry bud I didnt mean to not ask you how things been going for you, I sometimes forget when I see you on hear out and about that you been through what you've been through, I complain more then you do and yet you have MORE to complain about (and never do) and I think... "He's doing better" but I dont see you in person and its so much easier to forget (not the you suffer) but that you are suffering at all even as you post, your always so happy and encouraging to folks, I'd be A BEAR...Im not as good at it...I remind me of Isrealites murmuring and complaining, what a drag! I must work on Gods last nerve, I must stop doing that  :msealed:

Hugs bro :HeartThrob:

He he sis..No complaints.....
the acid, is to cortisize this over granulation,,got rid of it once,  but like so many other things..came back again...stings a tab,no worries sis,tis Nothing....have more to suffer than that :icon_flower:

And Yup...these forums never see the FULL person sis...How can One Guage?


We all have suffering to some degree sis...and I know you Know what I mean :HeartThrob: id take this ANY DAY

[rosered]

I learned it through YOU actually I was more quiet when we met recall? It was your influence you are like a girl, never met a guy like you, all day and night tea parties of revelatory things of God, they were the best werent they?  :grin:

I like phone now, its harder for me to type, I said to Rose I feel like that dude in scripture which must lay on his side and type for so many days then flip over like a pancake and do it on the other side...Just as long as Im not cooking over dung its good to go  :grin:

Com on! I have been short and sweet and not as longwinded as usual, praise God for that He is sparing ya  :grin:
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  Ezekiel  had to lay on sides too ,  lol Kimmy  you did say that sis !   OMG !! :laughing7:

[rosered]

 

  i AM  just so glad you are both here now , love you and all to pieces
   :HeartThrob:
  the suffering part is the part we would love to go without , but it is also part of the process , there is Light at the end of the tunnel
     Thanking God for the mercy  I know of Him today .. :thumbsup:

[rosered]

Ezekiel  had to lay on sides too ,  lol Kimmy  you did say that sis !   OMG !! :laughing7:

Thats HIS name Rose! I forgot which one did that weird thing, I betcha it seemed pretty pointless to him too  :grin:

Not that im complaining  :msealed:

HA ha ha!! yeppers Moreover take thou unto thee an iron pan, and set it [for] a wall of iron between thee and the city: and set thy face against it, and it shall be besieged, and thou shalt lay siege against it. This [shall be] a sign to the house of Israel.


Eze 4:4 Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: [according] to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.


Eze 4:5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.


Eze 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

wonder what this really means ??  :dontknow:

[Molly]

Ezekiel  had to lay on sides too ,  lol Kimmy  you did say that sis !   OMG !! :laughing7:

Thats HIS name Rose! I forgot which one did that weird thing, I betcha it seemed pretty pointless to him too  :grin:

Not that im complaining  :msealed:

HA ha ha!! yeppers Moreover take thou unto thee an iron pan, and set it [for] a wall of iron between thee and the city: and set thy face against it, and it shall be besieged, and thou shalt lay siege against it. This [shall be] a sign to the house of Israel.


Eze 4:4 Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: [according] to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.


Eze 4:5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.


Eze 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

wonder what this really means ??  :dontknow:

He's eating barley cakes cooked over dung--for 430 years.

[rosered]

He's eating barley cakes cooked over dung.

  why Molly ?
  for the sins of Israel and Judah ? :mblush:

[Molly]

He's eating barley cakes cooked over dung.

  why Molly ?
  for the sins of Israel and Judah ? :mblush:

Yeah, I think.  They've defiled their bread and he's taking their transgressions on himself.

There's some 400 years before Christ where there is not one word from God.  That's a long silence.

But barley cakes speak of the first fruits.

[Taffy]

Ezekiel  had to lay on sides too ,  lol Kimmy  you did say that sis !   OMG !! :laughing7:

Thats HIS name Rose! I forgot which one did that weird thing, I betcha it seemed pretty pointless to him too  :grin:

Not that im complaining  :msealed:

HA ha ha!! yeppers Moreover take thou unto thee an iron pan, and set it [for] a wall of iron between thee and the city: and set thy face against it, and it shall be besieged, and thou shalt lay siege against it. This [shall be] a sign to the house of Israel.


Eze 4:4 Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: [according] to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.


Eze 4:5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.


Eze 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

wonder what this really means ??  :dontknow:

He's eating barley cakes cooked over dung--for 430 years.

Sin comes to mind..kinda like Twins, :HeartThrob:

[rosered]

He's eating barley cakes cooked over dung.

  why Molly ?
  for the sins of Israel and Judah ? :mblush:

Yeah, I think.  They've defiled their bread and he's taking their transgressions on himself.

There's some 400 years before Christ where there is not one word from God.  That's a long silence.

But barley cakes speak of the first fruits.

yes  for the poor , barley is a poor mans  pay/ food

[Taffy]

I learned it through YOU actually I was more quiet when we met recall? It was your influence you are like a girl, never met a guy like you, all day and night tea parties of revelatory things of God, they were the best werent they?  :grin:

I like phone now, its harder for me to type, I said to Rose I feel like that dude in scripture which must lay on his side and type for so many days then flip over like a pancake and do it on the other side...Just as long as Im not cooking over dung its good to go  :grin:

Com on! I have been short and sweet and not as longwinded as usual, praise God for that He is sparing ya  :grin:

  Ezekiel  had to lay on sides too ,  lol Kimmy  you did say that sis !   OMG !! :laughing7:
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Yeah Yeah...Tis always My Fault..Tis True, Tracey tells me all the time..Im convinced ..Blame World recession on me..thats My Fault too

he he..Loved those tea Parties and Cookies... :icon_flower:  great days sis.

Nah dont want Yesterdays Food sis.... :icon_flower:

Two sides...lol.... :icon_flower:

[Tony N]

So let's just take this understanding to its logical conclusion: :wacko2:

"But the servant without understanding says in his heart; the Lord delays in his coming."

peacemaker

Mat 24:48  "But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming" (KJV)

Mat 24:48 "Now if that evil slave should be saying in his heart, 'Delaying is my lord,'" (Concordant Literal).

The story is not that the Lord has already come but that the Lord delayed His coming and so the evil slave thought he could get lazy. Then the Lord came when the slave didn't think He would.

[rosered]

  i AM  just so glad you are both here now , love you and all to pieces
   :HeartThrob:
  the suffering part is the part we would love to go without , but it is also part of the process , there is Light at the end of the tunnel
     Thanking God for the mercy  I know of Him today .. :thumbsup:

Thats cause Our God ROCKS!  :thumbsup:

Glad to be with you guys too I had forgotten how great it was to get together...not really but sorta

yes Sis Our God rocks!!     amazing !  :HeartThrob: :icon_flower: :girlheart:

[rosered]

So let's just take this understanding to its logical conclusion: :wacko2:

"But the servant without understanding says in his heart; the Lord delays in his coming."

peacemaker

Mat 24:48  "But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming" (KJV)

Mat 24:48 "Now if that evil slave should be saying in his heart, 'Delaying is my lord,'" (Concordant Literal).

The story is not that the Lord has already come but that the Lord delayed His coming and so the evil slave thought he could get lazy. Then the Lord came when the slave didn't think He would.

   MAY BE MORE OF FOOD FIGHTING  AT THE SUPPER  TABLE !  while Jesus in in the Midst [ the food] His Body]

45"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?

46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns.
47I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,'

  49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of.

  51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

[peacemaker]

Crazy?  :happy3: Not sure how to contrast that – but given the normality of the physical world these days, it must be spiritually true! :mblush:

Who is Jer? I was once a wounded traveler, but now, "what is mine, is yours; if you have need of it."

"A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho ...and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead."

"And by chance there came down a certain priest that way ...and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side."

"And likewise, a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him and passed by on the other side."

"But ...a certain Samaritan as he journeyed, came where he was ...and when he saw him, he had compassion on him."

Appears that Jesus was suggesting that the entire hierarchy, from the Levites to the self-exalted priests, were spiritually dead.

He also was indicating that charity (loving-kindness and mercy) is the mark of a true follower, as in:

"I desired mercy, not sacrifice."

The Samaritan not only went to him, bound up his wounds (with the pouring of oil and wine) and set him on his own beast, but also brought him to an inn, and took care of him. Now, that's going the extra mile...

"And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee."

I see the good Samaritan, as taking some of his own garment to cover, dress and bind up the wounds of the person who was in need.

Whereas, the robbers encircled the traveler, taking that which was not rightfully theirs - a mentality of only the strongest survive. And, the priest and Levite could care-less, "What is mine, is mine." Thus, do not cast your burden on them – for they judge by the law, and care not!

The traveler merely received all that he was given by the spirit of the possessor; the Lord of the manor, and occupant of the house next door.

I find it more than interesting - that Rahab was an Inn keeper who lived within the city (not outside the gates), and was called a harlot by the sun dialed religion of the day, simply because – her covering (veil) had been removed in order to serve others. And, going against the grain of societal expectations always costs, especially, if you go against the natural disposition.

However, Love is one of the main characteristics of our Lord, and it ought to be manifested by all those who aspire to be the sons of God. Serving as a guide for travelers.

"Love covers a great number of people; a multitude."

Indeed  :icon_flower: Tis a Matter of the HEART!

peacemaker

[Molly]

I see the good Samaritan, as taking some of his own garment to cover, dress and bind up the wounds of the person who was in need.

When the samaritan covers the man with his own garment, he is acting as the agent of Christ--in the place of the kinsman redeemer.  He is, in fact, the anointed one.



8And it came to pass at midnight, that the man was afraid, and turned himself: and, behold, a woman lay at his feet.

9And he said, Who art thou? And she answered, I am Ruth thine handmaid: spread therefore thy skirt over thine handmaid; for thou art a near kinsman.


14And she lay at his feet until the morning: and she rose up before one could know another. And he said, Let it not be known that a woman came into the floor.

15Also he said, Bring the vail that thou hast upon thee, and hold it. And when she held it, he measured six measures of barley, and laid it on her: and she went into the city.

--Ruth 3

[Molly]

HIYA MOLLY!! :grin:

Hi Fire!

[Molly]

So--back to my original question--do we have a spirit or is it something extraneous which we acquire--

Jesus tells Nicodemus that the fact that he can see the kingdom of God is proof that he is born from above.

"Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."
3In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.

--John 3

Then Jesus tells him that flesh can only give birth to flesh--it is Spirit which gives birth to spirit--


6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.


So wouldn't that imply that we are not automatically born with a spirit?  (unless we are set apart in the womb).

But Jesus goes on to tell Nicodemus that seeing the kingdom is only the first step, additional things are needed to enter.

"I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.


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