Natural and Spiritual

[Molly]

:cloud9: The heart of flesh He gives us is Christ's flesh. Not flesh as we think of flesh, but celestial flesh, ie. not hardened by sin.

wow!!!!!!!!
:bgdance:
That's it!!!!

[Molly]

19Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

20By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

21And having an high priest over the house of God;

22Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

--Heb 10

[Taffy]

:cloud9: The heart of flesh He gives us is Christ's flesh. Not flesh as we think of flesh, but celestial flesh, ie. not hardened by sin.

wow!!!!!!!!
:bgdance:
That's it!!!!

way to Go Molly :HeartThrob:

[Taffy]

19Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

20By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

21And having an high priest over the house of God;

22Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

--Heb 10

Aint no way stopping ya now Girl :icon_flower:

[rosered]

Jhn 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?
Jhn 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.


Jhn 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jhn 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.


Jhn 6:56 He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, dwells in me, and I in him.

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve  :thumbsup:

[rosered]

She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.


Pro 31:16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.


Pro 31:17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.




 the wise  woman / virgin Pro 31:2 What, my son? and what, the son of my womb? and what, the son of my vows?


Pro 31:18 She perceiveth that her merchandise [is] good: her candle goeth not out by night.


Pro 31:19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.


Pro 31:20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
Strong's H2938 - ta`am טעם
Transliteration
ta`am
Pronunciation

tä·am' (Key)

Part of Speech
verb

Root Word (Etymology)

a primitive root

TWOT Reference
815


Outline of Biblical Usage 1) to taste, perceive, eat

a) (Qal) to taste

[Cardinal]

I'm glad I so cracked up when I saw this too!  :grin:I thought, dang this is a good example of how things can get royally screwed up calling good evil and evil good, or Christ a devil and the devil an angel  :grin:

God said dont eat from "One Tree" cause you WILL DIE,  the serpent says "NO you WILL NOT DIE" yet the OTHER Tree in the garden is the tree of life which contains words "LIVE for ever"... so Jesus speaks of believing and not dying and the pharasees who cant tell their right from their left accuses Him of being a devil  :grin:

The Pharisees were also looking at the death of the BODY ...."the prophets are DEAD but YOU SAY"  :grin:  And mistook Him for the serpent in the garden after the wrong tree  :grin:

Man, that so blessed me. It's another one of those things right in front of your face in plain sight but you don't see it until it's time. Thanks again..... :thumbsup:

[rosered]

And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?


Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


Luk 24:40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them [his] hands and [his] feet.


Luk 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?


Luk 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.


Luk 24:43 And he took [it], and did eat before them.


Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.


Luk 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,


Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:


Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.


Luk 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

and about the bone of Christ  got mean  structure or formed ?
 it just says  bone ?

[Taffy]

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve

:cloud9:

Hi Rosey .... :icon_flower:

[rosered]

She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.


Pro 31:16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.


Pro 31:17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.




 the wise  woman / virgin Pro 31:2 What, my son? and what, the son of my womb? and what, the son of my vows?


Pro 31:18 She perceiveth that her merchandise [is] good: her candle goeth not out by night.


Pro 31:19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.


Pro 31:20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
Strong's H2938 - ta`am טעם
Transliteration
ta`am
Pronunciation

tä·am' (Key)

Part of Speech
verb

Root Word (Etymology)

a primitive root

TWOT Reference
815


Outline of Biblical Usage 1) to taste, perceive, eat

a) (Qal) to taste

Yeah taste and SEE the Lord is good huh? Verses seeing and not "percieving"?

 yes sis , how we keep on hoping , or even  wanting it to keep us alive , that desire  within us , or to be honest i would have and have  gave up
 only to prove the God is faithful  through Jesus Christ every time !  :laughing7:

[rosered]

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve

:cloud9:

Hi Rosey .... :icon_flower:

Hi Bro death and dust are the same flesh to me ! this promise of God  can never ever be  broken  
in adam all die , this is what he was formed out of
 Jesus Christ was never formed out of  dust  ,  He was concived by the HOLY GHOST in His mothers womb  Jesus was sent He was always a different flesh bro!!  from the start

[rosered]

So he has flesh and bone and we are his flesh and bone at the same time? It wasnt a sorta picture there of "My hands and feet" n regards to the body of Christ "the foot cannot say to the hand I have no need of you"? type thing?

I sorta look at this one differently

  Hi Kimmy , you mean that  work ,teaching  sisin  power   hands and feet ?
  how differently sis ?

[Molly]

So he has flesh and bone and we are his flesh and bone at the same time? It wasnt a sorta picture there of "My hands and feet" n regards to the body of Christ "the foot cannot say to the hand I have no need of you"? type thing?

I sorta look at this one differently

Both Eve and the resurrected Christ have flesh and bone.  No mention of blood.  Flesh of my flesh and bone of my bone.

Normally you would say, flesh and blood.  The heart is shared?  The blood is shared?

[rosered]

 
 IS THE SPIRIT natural ?

does it have a nature of its own origin?
 natural - 11 dictionary results

nat⋅u⋅ral   /ˈnætʃərəl, ˈnætʃrəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation  [nach-er-uhl, nach-ruhl] Show IPA Pronunciation  

–adjective 1. existing in or formed by nature (opposed to artificial ): a natural bridge.  
2. based on the state of things in nature; constituted by nature: Growth is a natural process.  
3. of or pertaining to nature or the universe: natural beauty.  
4. of, pertaining to, or occupied with the study of natural science: conducting natural experiments.  
5. in a state of nature; uncultivated, as land.
6. growing spontaneously, without being planted or tended by human hand, as vegetation.
7. having undergone little or no processing and containing no chemical additives: natural food; natural ingredients. Compare organic (def. 11).
8. having a real or physical existence, as opposed to one that is spiritual, intellectual, fictitious, etc. 9. of, pertaining to, or proper to the nature or essential constitution: natural ability.  
10. proper to the circumstances of the case: a natural result of his greed.  
11. free from affectation or constraint: a natural manner.  
12. arising easily or spontaneously: a natural courtesy to strangers.  
13. consonant with the nature or character of. 14. in accordance with the nature of things: It was natural that he should hit back.  
15. based upon the innate moral feeling of humankind: natural justice.  
16. in conformity with the ordinary course of nature; not unusual or exceptional.
17. happening in the ordinary or usual course of things, without the intervention of accident, violence, etc.
18. related only by birth; of no legal relationship; illegitimate: a natural son.   19. related by blood rather than by adoption.
20. based on what is learned from nature rather than on revelation.
21. true to or closely imitating nature: a natural representation.  
22. unenlightened or unregenerate: the natural man.  
23. being such by nature; born such: a natural fool.  
24. Music. a. neither sharp nor flat.
b. changed in pitch by the sign ♮.

25. not treated, tanned, refined, etc.; in its original or raw state: natural wood; natural cowhide.  
26. (of a horn or trumpet) having neither side holes nor valves.
27. not tinted or colored; undyed.
28. having a pale tannish or grayish-yellow color, as many woods and untreated animal skins.
29. Cards. a. being a card other than a wild card or joker.
b. (of a set or sequence of cards) containing no wild cards.

30. having or showing feelings, as affection, gratitude, or kindness, considered part of basic human nature.
31. Afro (def. 1).  
–noun 32. any person or thing that is or is likely or certain to be very suitable to and successful in an endeavor without much training or difficulty.
33. Music. a. a white key on a piano, organ, or the like.
b. the sign ♮, placed before a note, canceling the effect of a previous sharp or flat.
c. a note affected by a ♮, or a tone thus represented.

34. an idiot.
35. Cards. blackjack (def. 2b).  
36. Afro (def. 2).  
37. (in craps) a winning combination of seven or eleven made on the first cast.
38. a natural substance or a product made with such a substance: an ointment containing mink oil and other naturals.  
 I have not figured this one out  yet :mshock:

Origin:
1300–50; ME < L nātūrālis (see nature, -al 1 ); r. ME naturel < MF < L, as above
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)

[Cardinal]

:cloud9: The heart of flesh He gives us is Christ's flesh. Not flesh as we think of flesh, but celestial flesh, ie. not hardened by sin.

Ok this makes sense if a fleshy heart (celestial) has bone in it if Eve is the BONE of my bone and flesh of my flesh...? I THINK?  :grin:

So if Eve is comparable to the church herself and he resoreth MY SOUL, Eve is as the soul?  :grin:

TRying to get all this  :grin:

It says there is one flesh terrestrial and another celestial. The glorified body flesh is the "celestial". The works of His flesh are righteousness, peace, and joy. The works of our flesh are lasciviousness, lust, hate, ect. Flesh therefore is not physical flesh as we think of it, only.

The bones are the as the scriptures/letter. When we die to self (our flesh) we are as bones. When we allow Him to dry up all of His glory He has given us (gifts, callings, titles, leaving churches, ect.), we are then the DRY (Spirit withdrawn; the life is the blood, the marrow of the bones makes the blood) bones that Ezekiel prophesied over.

This has been the purpose of leaving things behind, feeling like He's barely there, not moving in the gifts anymore as much or at all, ect. This is the cross experience unfolding.
Then what has been happening is the glorified celestial flesh is being put on our "bones", ie. revelation. This is the reason for the outpouring of revelation. When Ezekiel spoke, it was for THIS generation. Blessings....

[Taffy]

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve

:cloud9:

Hi Rosey .... :icon_flower:

Hi Bro death and dust are the same flesh to me ! this promise of God  can never ever be  broken  
in adam all die , this is what he was formed out of
 Jesus Christ was never formed out of  dust  ,  He was concived by the HOLY GHOST in His mothers womb  Jesus was sent He was always a different flesh bro!!  from the start

yup sis.I  :HeartThrob: see that Too....

[rosered]

So he has flesh and bone and we are his flesh and bone at the same time? It wasnt a sorta picture there of "My hands and feet" n regards to the body of Christ "the foot cannot say to the hand I have no need of you"? type thing?

I sorta look at this one differently

Both Eve and the resurrected Christ have flesh and bone.  No mention of blood.  Flesh of my flesh and bone of my bone.

Normally you would say, flesh and blood.  The heart is shared?  The blood is shared?

that is great Molly ,Makes perfect sense  cause LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD!
the sacrifice of adam and eves  was not perfect  , the blood  was not to be eaten!  spilled only on the ground ...become new creatures in Christ

[Cardinal]

Jhn 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?
Jhn 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.


Jhn 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jhn 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.


Jhn 6:56 He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, dwells in me, and I in him.

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve  :thumbsup:

Eat the celestrial bread of life, makes sense

:cloud9: I've having a hard time keeping up with you guys. Thanks going out to rosered and Molly for keeping the word on the screen. It takes me years to do that, LOL....

Anyway, Fire, He says He will sup with us if we will sup with Him. Sup there literally means to consume. So as we consume Him, He consumes us. So as we eat of the revelation it literally becomes part of the Christ that is being formed in us. Blessings....

[rosered]

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve

:cloud9:

Hi Rosey .... :icon_flower:

Hi Bro death and dust are the same flesh to me ! this promise of God  can never ever be  broken  
in adam all die , this is what he was formed out of
 Jesus Christ was never formed out of  dust  ,  He was concived by the HOLY GHOST in His mothers womb  Jesus was sent He was always a different flesh bro!!  from the start

yup sis.I  :HeartThrob: see that Too....

I am glad cause it   kinda has to quicken in me once again , that jolt of  reality  has to set in  , clean and new once  again  :mblush:

[Molly]

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve

:cloud9:

Hi Rosey .... :icon_flower:

Hi Bro death and dust are the same flesh to me ! this promise of God  can never ever be  broken  
in adam all die , this is what he was formed out of
 Jesus Christ was never formed out of  dust  ,  He was concived by the HOLY GHOST in His mothers womb  Jesus was sent He was always a different flesh bro!!  from the start

yup sis.I  :HeartThrob: see that Too....

5 Therefore, as He was coming into the world, He said:

   You did not want sacrifice and offering,

   but You prepared a body for Me.

--Heb 10

OMG  The body is us! :mshock:

[rosered]

Jhn 6:52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?
Jhn 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.


Jhn 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jhn 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.


Jhn 6:56 He that eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, dwells in me, and I in him.

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve  :thumbsup:

Eat the celestrial bread of life, makes sense

:cloud9: I've having a hard time keeping up with you guys. Thanks going out to rosered and Molly for keeping the word on the screen. It takes me years to do that, LOL....

Anyway, Fire, He says He will sup with us if we will sup with Him. Sup there literally means to consume. So as we consume Him, He consumes us. So as we eat of the revelation it literally becomes part of the Christ that is being formed in us. Blessings....

  I so see that now Cardinal !
  the Fire of Gods consuming  us , and we eat , that may be why the broiled fish and honey was   the new meal !!  after Christ ressurection
   and showing Himself to the  students /disciples

  fishers of men ?
and the  honey sweet in your mouth and bitter in your belly ?  the Joy and the judgments  simultaneously   working together for the good of those who Love the Lord and are called according to HIS purpose



si⋅mul⋅ta⋅ne⋅ous   –adjective existing, occurring, or operating at the same time; concurrent: simultaneous movements; simultaneous translation. 

Origin:
1650–60; < L simul together (see similar ) + (instan)taneous

[Molly]

Matthew 3:4
And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey.



41And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43And he took it, and did eat before them.

--Luke 24



The new priests get a better meal--fish instead of locusts, and the whole comb.

[rosered]

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve

:cloud9:

Hi Rosey .... :icon_flower:

Hi Bro death and dust are the same flesh to me ! this promise of God  can never ever be  broken  
in adam all die , this is what he was formed out of
 Jesus Christ was never formed out of  dust  ,  He was concived by the HOLY GHOST in His mothers womb  Jesus was sent He was always a different flesh bro!!  from the start

yup sis.I  :HeartThrob: see that Too....

5 Therefore, as He was coming into the world, He said:

   You did not want sacrifice and offering,

   but You prepared a body for Me.

--Heb 10

OMG  The body is us! :mshock:

awesome   Molly !  :thumbsup: perfect verse sis!!!  
 this is all  comes  by'' revelation ''a now process



 noun 1. the act of revealing or disclosing; disclosure.
2. something revealed or disclosed, esp. a striking disclosure, as of something not before realized.
3. Theology. a. God's disclosure of Himself and His will to His creatures.
b. an instance of such communication or disclosure.
c. something thus communicated or disclosed.
d. something that contains such disclosure, as the Bible.

4. (initial capital letter) Also called Revelations, The Revelation of St. John the Divine. the last book in the New Testament; the Apocalypse. Abbreviation: Rev.

Origin:
1275–1325; ME revelacion (< OF) < LL revēlātiōn- (s. of revēlātiō), equiv. to L revēlāt(us) (ptp. of revēlāre to reveal ) + -iōn- -ion

[Molly]

amen no more eating DUST!! but His flesh where the LIFE IS!!

the mind / womb , eve can concieve / recieve

:cloud9:

Hi Rosey .... :icon_flower:

Hi Bro death and dust are the same flesh to me ! this promise of God  can never ever be  broken  
in adam all die , this is what he was formed out of
 Jesus Christ was never formed out of  dust  ,  He was concived by the HOLY GHOST in His mothers womb  Jesus was sent He was always a different flesh bro!!  from the start

yup sis.I  :HeartThrob: see that Too....

5 Therefore, as He was coming into the world, He said:

   You did not want sacrifice and offering,

   but You prepared a body for Me.

--Heb 10

OMG  The body is us! :mshock:

awesome   Molly !  :thumbsup: perfect verse sis!!!  
 this is all  comes  by" revelation "a now process



 noun 1. the act of revealing or disclosing; disclosure.
2. something revealed or disclosed, esp. a striking disclosure, as of something not before realized.
3. Theology. a. God's disclosure of Himself and His will to His creatures.
b. an instance of such communication or disclosure.
c. something thus communicated or disclosed.
d. something that contains such disclosure, as the Bible.

4. (initial capital letter) Also called Revelations, The Revelation of St. John the Divine. the last book in the New Testament; the Apocalypse. Abbreviation: Rev.

Origin:
1275–1325; ME revelacion (< OF) < LL revēlātiōn- (s. of revēlātiō), equiv. to L revēlāt(us) (ptp. of revēlāre to reveal ) + -iōn- -ion

Thank you for confirming that.  I keep thinking I'm losing my mind.

LOL I have nothing left to lose but my mind.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Honey is a whole new topic rosered......wanna "rabbit track" for a moment? Honey speaks of revelation, which is only found as the carnal beastly nature (Satan goes about as a lion) is slain, as Samson illustrated for us.

Deborah means "bee", and it means to go in an orderly fashion, ie. the steps of the righteous are ordered of the Lord, the revelation by the Spirit is what orders our steps.

Her husband's name was Lapidoth, which means a "firebrand". The same word is used for the flame put in the EARTHEN pitchers of Gideon (means man of valor, feller of TREES, ie. the things planted in our hearts that are standing between us and God).

They walked around 7 TIMES (a time is 1000 years), and shouted (He descends with a shout, ie. to shout means the voice is RAISED, no longer speaking out of the dust realm), and the pitchers were BROKEN, revealing the light within. Blessings....