Soul sleep

[sheila]

  arise..shake yourself free from the dust..put on your beautiful garments....the spirit returns unto God

   even if  prodigal.

  my  :2c:  we rise at death[He calls our name]..Michael and the reaping angels seperate any evil

spirits clinging to us...we gather in groups called sheaves and then are escorted up into the Holy

city....they call this..bringing

  in the sheaves[for we were planted[our spirits] in the fields[earth][I sowed good seed,an enemy

  hath sowed the tares]  we are escorted unto the Holy city and taken in..where we are eductaed

and re-educated and perfected in our understanding...many will come from the east and west and

sit at table...  doors are open all the time..because teaching is going on continously..and newly

risen arrive continously[daily sacrifices]....... that's when most men find out their true identity..that

they are sons of God. a lot of them have noidea what is going on and they are really quiet and scared at all that is taken place..because of the lying doctrines. some  know and are very joyful.

   seperating...at our death.....   the evil spirits clinging unto a man may say to the reaping

angels..didn't we do thus and thus in your name Lord[tare]  but MIchael and the reapers know

their stuff and  can fulfill the Lord's command to seperaate...and easily know an evil religious spirit

from the redeemed spirit of man[just] that shall be made perfect.

  this earth is a stage..and newly risen watch and learn/and are educated[wings full of eyes]

  only they can see the evil spirits and how they interact with men..  It's a family affair and when

perfect in understanding we have places prepared for us..of service..to minister unto those who

are to inherit[men on earth]  guardians,teachers etc....our ministry down  here in the body

  is just like theirs...fellow-workers] theirs is more comprehensive... as they can do things we can

not..  we are all one family of God.

ALL TRUTH,ALL LOVE,ALL GOD

   your own iniquity will reprove you...since evil spirits possessing men do not rise...we are

educated by watching someone with the same problems[sin] that we did not overcome in the flesh.

   we see thrugh weakness of the flesh of man,ignorance..the manipulation of man's body  that he

is at a disadvantage against these wicked unseen powers. legions of angels were to keep Jesus

from their plots/lies/manipulation as the Lamb that was to overcome.[satn referred to this and

tried to twist it to his advantage when he 'tempted']  also we have photographic minds in

  our rising..and fullness that we don't have now....we can become turned around and easily

tripped up without this perfection........no forgetting.....  our minds/bodies then will not react

to any other spirit operating in or on it..


ps..regarding the dream Becca referred to.  open pit graves........in the scriptures there is a

reference to those whose throats are an open grave....folly..her steps lead down to the grave

and we have the black cloaked/evil/negative contrast[evil religious spirit] that keeps them there

through unforgiveness and the counting of their sins against them...instead of Jesus dying for all

men's sins..and God not counting their sins against them.  to me..this shows...is this the man

who would not let his captives go free?   I see the vision as more of an illustration of  the false

Pharisee religious spirit[angel of death] that does not enter into the city/kingdom..and hinder's

those that attempt to do so. graves are graves..even if you white-wash them.

[eaglesway]

Jesus said every hidden thing will be brought to light. When you hear of someone saying, their whole life passed before their eyes, that is perhaps what that is about, and what the lake of fire is, as fire and light are the same, they are one- so the one before whom no creature is hidden from hie sight and whose eyes are as flames of fire does an inventory, as Paul said, "For we must all stand before the judgment seat of Christ so that the deeds we did while in out body may be discerned(Wheat/tares; gold vs hay etc) and Paul also said evry persons works will be tried by fire for the Day shall reveal it"

There is a verse in the prophets where God says, "I will be a wall of fire around Zion", and everyman will be salted with fire and every offering seasoned with salt, so, walk as children of the day so the day wont take you as a thief, like the five foolish virgins. But nobody, in this life or after, gets into Zion without passing through that fire which is the divine nature of God.

All these principles are at work while we are in the body, and in my opinion are completed in the presence of God (the lake of fire is in the presence of God and I think it IS the presence of God and the general assembly of the firstborn gathered in heaven)- when we leave the body unless they were completed on earth(overcomers-first resurrection saints).

Many stripes few stripes- the stripes are the list of sins(by His stripes we are healed) and the lashes upon the conscience(Romans 2 judged by the secrets of their hearts before Jesus Christ in the Day) as people stand before Him and confess their sins(without confession their is no remission) and confess His Lordship, bowing the knee in gratitude and joy as the burden of their sins rolls away. There is an issue about whether that is instant, or not. I think in some measure their is unpleasantness involved of some kind for some folks because Jesus said so and I am not from the fulfilled view, if Jesus says Gehenna(Garbage burnng in the Day) is unpleasant I believe Him.

I think that in time, anyone who was not an overcomer is sleeping awaiting the Day, but God can wake anybody up He wants to anytime He wants to :o) Being an overcomer is not being some superheroe spirtual Christian, it is simply remaining faithful to the testimony of Jesus Christ and remaining contrite before Him. Some overcomers dont look as clean as some who are not overcoming really altho they look great.

The issue tho, of soul sleep versus immediate in the presence of the Lord, imo, is still more complicated than what anyone person has seen from the limit of their experience. Paul didnt kno whether he was caught up to the 3rd heaven in the body or in vision- their are limits to what we see from within time and imo that is why the scriptures speak of it from seeming opposing angles, but

They are not opposing.

I personally believe Cardinals vision- but I don't think it covers the breadth of all those who have died throughout the ages and the ages to come. I think God has more options than we like and we(I mean me and everybody) sometimes, not intentionally, but because what we've seen in the Word or in the dealings of God are wonderful things limit Him- and sometimes because it makes us feel good to be in the know.

SO with issues like these I still feel it is good to give leeway, only because the word has some SEEMINGLY contradictory witnesses.

The whole cloth of any given truth or doctrine that is of God MUST satisfy ALL the scriptures, in my discipline anyway. Peace :o)

[jabcat]

Hey John.  In the above scenario, what do you see as the purpose of the cross, the Lamb slain?  Thanks.

[eaglesway]

Col 1:13 He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, 14 in whom we have redemption through His blood,[c] the forgiveness of sins.

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

19 For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, 20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross. 21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.

This section of scripture sorta deals with the whole thing for me. The Lamb slain is the Logos, or Word of God, Jesus the only begotten. All that God has done is through and because of Him. In terms of judgment, every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Again, for me, this is the revelation of the Lamb slain, bringing repentence and remission of sins because of the contrite heart. IMO the blood of the Lamb is applied at the doorpost(conscience, "having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience") when a person believes. No one will "enter" without the blood having been sprinkled over them(metaphorically of course, in the Spirit).

Believing incorporates contrition, repentence, allegiance and faith(and a buncha other great stuff). I don't like to speculate on specifics beyond what the scriptures give as if it were fact, but I believe, for the unbelievers of the ages- the secrets of their hearts will be laid bare at the throne of Christ when they awake and many will bow the knee instantly rejoicing in the revelation of the Lamb. Others will "call to the mountains and rocks to fall upon them and hide them from the from the one who sits on the throne and the wrath of the Lamb"(Rev 6:16) These (imo) will be instantly introduced to the lake of fire, which I believe is a metaphor for an experience of being immersed in the light of God in the face of Jesus Christ that will "bring every hidden thing to light" and consume whatever darkness remains until - LET THERE BE LIGHT :o), contrition(a broken and a contrite heart of God, you will in no wise cast out/ every knee shall bow, every tongue confess) and remission. I don't believe it will be easy. I see it as a heavenly family intervention in the presence of the Hebrews 12 assembly....


22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

25 See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven, 26 whose voice then shook the earth; but now He has promised, saying, "Yet once more I shake not only the earth, but also heaven."27 Now this, "Yet once more," indicates the removal of those things that are being shaken, as of things that are made, that the things which cannot be shaken may remain.

28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear. 29 For our God is a consuming fire.


Remember Paul said, "I have determined in the presence of God and His holy angels to deliver such a one over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh"

There are several other places where Paul invokes the heavenly council and general assembly as if it is a real experience for him, and I believe it was. This council is always convened.

psalm by Asaph.

1 Elohim takes his place in his own assembly.
    He pronounces judgment among the gods(el):
2 "How long are you going to judge unfairly?
    How long are you going to side with wicked people?" Selah
3 Defend weak people and orphans.
    Protect the rights of the oppressed and the poor.
4 Rescue weak and needy people.
    Help them escape the power of wicked people.
5 Wicked people do not know or understand anything.
    As they walk around in the dark,
        all the foundations of the earth shake.
6 I said, "You are gods(elohim).
    You are all sons of Elyon.
7         You will certainly die like humans
            and fall like any prince."
8 Arise, O Elohim!
    Judge the earth, because all the nations belong to you.



Whatever travail the experience of the lake of fire brings, praise God, will end in the cries of a brand new baby new creation in Christ, or something like that LOLOL

[jabcat]

A lot to consider in this discussion, thanks for the good answer.  :)

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Both of your answers eaglesway, were anointed eloquence.  :thumbsup: :iagree:

[eaglesway]

Thanks Card :o)

[micah7:9]

Here is my  :2c:

This post is associated with the one I posted on the word study of rephaim and nephesh (soul).

Thanks to Jock for raising this, because after my post on the rephaim subject, I wondered if anyone would raise the topic of soul sleep. Soul sleep in IMO is not found in scripture per say.  For one thing, it sounds too much like protestant talk.

I believe most (many?) of us in this forum are agreed that the soul is not immortal.

Ezek 18:20  (KJV)  The soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Ecc 9:5 (KJV)  For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Ecc 9:10  (KJV)  Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

No mention of an immortal soul in these verses.

But scripture tells us that death is sleep.

God prepared Moses for death (sleep):

(Deut. 31:16). "And the Lord said unto Moses, Behold, you shall rest (sleep - KJV)  [Hebrew: shakab—to lie down, to rest, to sleep, to decease] with your fathers..."

Nowhere do the Scriptures state that death is "like" sleep, but rather that death is sleep.  Sleep in death is a state of unconsciousness.

Jesus referred to death as sleep.  Death in the grave is a sleep with no consciousness'.  Jesus performed a miracle by raising Lazarus from the grave showing that He could awake someone from death.  He showed that He had the power to do that.  And He will bring life to the dead who are in Christ at His coming.  This is the resurrection to immortality of God's elect.  Resurrection into the Kingdom of God.

Sleep or death is a realm of unconsciousness. Ps. 6:5. Is 38:18. Eccl. 9:10.

Not only is there no consciousness in death, but there is no consciousness of death either.

From this I conclude that there is no such thing as a NDE (near death experience), IMO.

The dead don't know that they are dead. When someone dies, they will not know that they are dead.   Not only will they never know that they are dead, they have no consciousness.

No one can experience the death state, seeing that where there is no consciousness, there is no experience, and therefore there is no memory of it.  It is obvious by the abundant scriptural proof that all conscious thought and life-functions cease at death.  Even if there was no such thing as a resurrection from the dead, the dead would never know that they died and would never know that they are dead.

Centuries and millennia will pass for those who died and sleep in the dust, yet they have no knowledge of death.  And that is because "The living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing".  The billions of humans who have lived and died are completely unaware of the passage of time.  The interim period between the moment of death, when their conscious thoughts ceased, and the instant when they awake to life again at the resurrection does not exist for them.  It will be as if they had gone to sleep and awakened without dreaming.  The passage of time is meaningless to them.


Dan 12:2  (CLV)  From those sleeping in the soil of the ground many shall awake, these to eonian life and these to reproach for eonian repulsion."

The dead have NO consciousness.  (Ecclesiastes 9:5)."For the living know that they will die but the dead know nothing..."

Joh 5:28  Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

Joh 5:29  And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation (judgement).

1Co 15:16  For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:

So scripture says that physical death is  sleep in which there is no consciousness.

:dsunny: :HeartThrob:

[sheila]

 Look!  Isaaih 26;13-19   O'Lord our God,'other' lords beside you have ruled over us.........

  they are dead,they live no more..those departed spirits do NOT rise....v19  BUT YOUR DEAD

WILL LIVE.

   if the same spirit be in you that was in Jesus Christ...it will quicken your 'dead body[soul'

  that which is mortal[soul] must put on immortality...that which is corrupt[spirit] must put on

incorruption.

...as far as I can see... man's spirit returning unto  God...and man's soul putting on immortality

  is a 'work of God' through His son Jesus Christ...is the gospel,the reconciliation , salvation and

deliverance of man from death and corruption into the eternal kingdom of heaven.


   serpent spirit/ image of corrupt one,deceived soul/mortality lose your soul, body of death/return

to dust...twice the child of hell/grave...... and just as we have bore the image of the corrupt one

so too shall all men bear the imageof the incorrupt one.

   and in the last days I will pour out my spirit on all flesh...when He does that..things 'CHANGE"

that which is mortal puts on immortality..that which was corrupt puts on incorruption

  you will not allow your holy one[spirit of Christ] to see corruption

[sheila]

p.s.  Romans 11;29  for the gifts[holy spirit] and calling[from the grave] of God are without

repentance.[spirit poured out on all flesh..for it is God who cause you to will and desire to do

  His good pleasure[repent]  now the firstfruits He causes to repent and receive the free gift

in this life...repentance is a gift..for the dead know nothing[the hour is coming and is now..when all

who are asleep in the graves will hear His voice and come forth.....

   if you..though being wicked know how to give good gifts to your children,how much more God.

      regarding gifts aand calling without repentance...John the baptist..of men born of women there

is none greater[a voice calling in the wilderness..make straight paths..repent and be baptized.....


  BUT he who is least in the Kingdom of heaven is greater then he............He must resurrect the

wicked so they can repent[if they know nothing they are unable to repent. they must know TRUTH

before they can repent of the lie.  what father when his son asks for a fish gives him a serpent...

on His Holy mountain if a child has a serpent in his hand...it will cause no harm..the serpent will

be shaken off into the fire and a good fish given[a change of mind from serpent doctrines]

   those who die in their sins[without repentance/all who reject Christ] receive the gifts and calling

without repentance.....

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: AMEN

[eaglesway]

Hi Joeteekay,

I essentially agree with you within certain parameters. You have presented some scripture, but you have also left a lot out.

Jesus, said, "He that believes in me shall not die".

The dead know nothing, but God is the God of the living, not the dead, and- as you said using Lazarus as an example, He can wake up whoever He wants whenever He wants.

The scripture about Michael the archangel disputing with Satan over the body of Moses raise the point also that God can make exceptions if He wants to. It is not unreasonable in the light of scripture that He has done so in a number of cases such as Enoch, Elijah and Moses.

Paul spoke "if by any means I might attain to the resurrection of the dead" the word there is "exanastasin"(only used in this one place for resurrection in the entire bible and all of the literature of antiquity) maening "out-resurrection" from the dead, which could refer to a more exclusive group such a Moses and Enoch etc.

Also, there is the first-fruits resurrection saints that were raised at Pentecost.

My point being, as I have made before, not to establish absolutes based on quotes cut out of the whole cloth of scripture. The transaction that takes place between those who sleep(i think that most souls, as you stated, sleep unconscious until their particular resurrection) and the Day is a little murky, and appear to be exceptions in the record, Like Samuel rising from sleep to speak prophecy to Saul.

There are also several places where Jesus, in metaphoric language appears to offer alternatives, for instance.

"He that overcomes will be kept from the hour of trial that is to come upon the whole earth."

Lotsa folks think that speaks of the rapture and the "tribulation period" but I think not, because the verses were written for the edification of 2 thousand years of saints, not just a few saints from the last 7 years of the age.

I think the hour of trial Jesus is speaking of is the Great White Throne. First resurrection saints will not be judged there, they will meet the Lord at the end of this age(imo).

I am not disagreeing with you so much as making a case for a wider range of possibilities.

"The time is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of God and live." The dead know nothing, until they hear the voice of God and live. Kind of a cryptic, mystical and metaphorical and full of possibilities.

Enoch did not see death because he "walked with God". Jesus proclaimed the gospel to the spirits in prison.

Moses and Elijah met with Jesus on the mount and I think one has to go a long way afield to declare emphaticly that it was just a vision, because the word vision never appears in the narrative. I've noticed that when it is convenient for them, people ignore that the word vision was never mentioned, it just says Moses and Elijah were there with Jesus, and Peter was saying, "Hey, can we just stay here? Want me to put up a tent or something?" lol

Also Hebrews 12 presents a conundrum too because it does not say "You will Come". It says "You have come to Mt Zion and the heavenly Jerusalem and to myriads of angels and to the spirits of righteous men made perfect(who, where and when are they LOL?)

Cardinal and I wer talking the other day about how every moment in time is connected to the cross, (imo) the first thought of God related to creation and mankind. The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. The core, kernel of all that is extends(imo) not from "in the beginning the world was without form", etc. - But from "It is Finished" - The cross of Jesus Christ. Time, as it were, is a loaf of swiss cheese in my opinion. :o)

I know none of these verses have a "commonly held interpretation". But I am not setting forth doctrine :o), I just thank God He isnt limited by systematic theology :o)

[joeteekay]

Thanks so very much for answering some of my points. You make some very significant comments. I will certainty not be limited by traditional theology since I have cast most of it aside already.

To me it is needful to  understand :

facts about what happened to Elijah : I am well aware of the teaching that he didn't go to heaven'

Same about Enoch

and the "vision" (G3700) you mention with Christ being with Elijah and Moses which  John, James and Peter witnessed.

Mat_17:3  And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

Also still wondering why there would be persons resurrected when Christ died on the cross (stake). What's the point? A witness for whom? Us?


Thanks again. Makes me dig deeper into HIS WORD.

[WhiteWings]

Acts 2
29 Men and brothers, let me freely speak to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us to this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus has God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he has shed forth this, which you now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he said himself, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit you on my right hand,


David is said to be dead, not sleeping.
If that means David still has some awareness(I don't see how), it means he wasn't with God when the verses were written.

[eaglesway]

Yes White Wings, it is clear from thse verses that david was not with God, ascended into the heavens when those verses were spoken.

[eaglesway]

Hi Joeteekay,

I thnk the point is, God is doing more than we can understand, and has purposes not yet revealed. An old man of God I once knew thought that the saints resurrected at Christ's crucifixion(thx) were raised to be intercessors with Him surrounding the throne.

[eaglesway]

Lev. 23:10 "Speak to the Israelites and tell them, 'When you enter the land that I am about to give to you and you gather in its harvest, then you must bring the sheaf of the first portion of your harvest to the priest, 11 and he must wave the sheaf before the Lord to be accepted for your benefit – on the day after the Sabbath the priest is to wave it.

Some hav suggested that this is a picture of the "first sheaf" resurrection at Christ's death, and some suggest that the greek(as the kjv and niv suggest) indicates that the graves burst open at His death but they werent resurrected until He was. Just food for thought :o)

[WhiteWings]

Yes White Wings, it is clear from thse verses that david was not with God, ascended into the heavens when those verses were spoken.

Then there are 2 options left.
David was simply dead.
David was resurrected but was still on earth.

[WhiteWings]

Hi Joeteekay,

I thnk the point is, God is doing more than we can understand, and has purposes not yet revealed. An old man of God I once knew thought that the saints resurrected at Christ's crucifixion(thx) were raised to be intercessors with Him surrounding the throne.

My view on the 24 elders

12 Tribal elders, Sons of Jacob, mainly looking after the best interest of their own tribe.
They now rule in corporation with:
12 Kingdom elders (=Apostles) who look at the best interest of the Kingdom.

Tribal submits to Kingdom. Each tribe is ruled by a tribal+kingdom elder.

The elders meeting isn't just adding a bit of scenery to the vision. It's all about millenia long tradition of assembling when matters concerning the whole nation needed to be discussed.
Exo 3:16,4:29, 17:6; 18:12-27, 19:7, Num 1:16, 11:16, 25, 30, Deu5:23, 21:19-21, 22:18, 27:1, 31:28, 32:7, 33:9, Jos 23-24, lSa 8:4, 2Sa 5:1-3, lKi 4:7,27, 8:1, lCh 23, Psa 107:32, Pro 31:23, Eze 7:26


So in theory 12 of the resurrected people could have been the elders. Not all 24 because the Apostles were still alive.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: My  :2c:  Anybody else notice that it says his soul was not left in hell? Hell is simply separation from God, the soul stays bound in whatever it did not overcome in life in the body, until it is resurrected with Him. If it was not, there would nothing but a shell to resurrect.

Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

The soul is bound to her husband the flesh she did not overcome but rather stayed one with, but free to remarry under the law, which IS the resurrection = union with spirit of Christ. The Head/husband and the body/wife, arose together because they were now one.

Neither does our soul arise until it is one with it's true husband, the spirit of Christ. But thank God if we don't attain it in this life, we have hope because He will not leave our soul in "hell" (of our own making, ie. we are reproved with our own wickedness). Blessings....

[micah7:9]

 :2c: :sigh:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: A few scriptures to back up what I've shared.....

Job 14:22 But his flesh upon him shall have pain, and his soul within him shall mourn.

2 Kings 4:27 And when she came to the man of God to the hill, she caught him by the feet: but Gehazi came near to thrust her away. And the man of God said , Let her alone; for her soul is vexed within her: and the LORD hath hid it from me, and hath not told me.

Job 14:22 But his flesh upon him shall have pain, and his soul within him shall mourn.

Job 33:18 He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword

Job 33:20 So that his life abhorreth bread, and his soul dainty meat.

Job 33:22 Yea, his soul draweth near unto the grave, and his life to the destroyers.

Job 33:28 He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light.

Job 33:30 To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.

Psalm 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Psalm 22:29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.

Psalm 23:3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Psalm 25:20 O keep my soul, and deliver me: let me not be ashamed; for I put my trust in thee.

Psalm 30:3 O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.

Psalm 34:22 The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate.

Psalm 49:15 But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah.

Psalm 89:48 What man is he that liveth, and shall not see death? shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave? Selah.

Psalm 107:5 Hungry and thirsty, their soul fainted in them.

Proverbs 6:32 But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.

Proverbs 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

Proverbs 15:32 He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.

Proverbs 19:8 He that getteth wisdom loveth his own soul: he that keepeth understanding shall find good.

Proverbs 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Isaiah 3:9 The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves.

Isaiah 10:18 And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standard bearer fainteth.

Isaiah 38:17 Behold, for peace I had great bitterness : but thou hast in love to my soul delivered it from the pit of corruption: for thou hast cast all my sins behind thy back.

Jonah 2:7 When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.

Micah 6:7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[CHB]

:cloud9: My  :2c:  Anybody else notice that it says his soul was not left in hell? Hell is simply separation from God, the soul stays bound in whatever it did not overcome in life in the body, until it is resurrected with Him. If it was not, there would nothing but a shell to resurrect.

Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spoke of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

The soul is bound to her husband the flesh she did not overcome but rather stayed one with, but free to remarry under the law, which IS the resurrection = union with spirit of Christ. The Head/husband and the body/wife, arose together because they were now one.

Neither does our soul arise until it is one with it's true husband, the spirit of Christ. But thank God if we don't attain it in this life, we have hope because He will not leave our soul in "hell" (of our own making, ie. we are reproved with our own wickedness). Blessings....

Hi Cardinal,

Glad to see you back posting. This tells me that things must be going well with you? Thank the Lord for that.  :banana:

Doesn't hell here simply mean a hole or the place where Jesus laid?

CHB

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Hi CHB.....glad to see you back, too..... :thumbsup: :banana: :friendstu:

Hell is separation from God, to me. Therefore, people are walking around in shoe leather by the millions, that are "in hell". I see it as a state of being, not a place per se. My  :2c:

[micah7:9]

 :2c: :sigh: