SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT

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FUTURE LIFE - William Rounseville Alger

"Even the loathsome realm of darkness and torment shall be burnished and made part of the all-inclusive Paradise. All darkness, falsehood, and suffering, shall flee utterly away, and the whole universe be filled by the illumination of good spirits, blessed with fruitions of eternal delight."

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[eaglesway]

If heaven is one "kingdom" under one "God", Then perhaps darkness is also one kingdom- a kingdom being swallowed up, from within and without, by the kingdom of light.

"The light shines in the darkness and the darkness cannot overcome it"

"Translated from the kingdom of this darkness into the kingdom of His glorious light."

"For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ."

To me, the very least of all saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unfathomable riches of Christ, and to bring to light what is the administration of the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God who created all things; so that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places. This was in accordance with the eternal purpose which He carried out in Christ Jesus our Lord, in whom we have boldness and confident access through faith in Him.
(Eph 3:8-12)

In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him  with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory.
(Eph 1:9-12)

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Thanks for the great scriptures eaglesway.  :thumbsup:

THE DOCTRINE OF THE UNIVERSALISTS - Ulriucus Zuinglius

"I cannot believe that the Lord will cast away from Him nations whose only crime it is never to have heard of the gospel. No, let us abjure the rashness of setting bounds to the divine mercy."

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[eaglesway]

Yes, let us "abjure the rashness"  :happyclap:

I just love it.

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THE MYSTERY OF GOD – Gerard Winstanley

"Christ Jesus will deliver all mankind out of bondage. This I see to be a truth by testimony of Scripture, as God is pleased to teach me. But this mystery of God is not to be done all at once, but in several dispensations, some whereof are past, some are in being, and some are yet to come. The whole creation of mankind, which is God's work, shall be delivered from corruption, bondage, death, and pain. Mankind shall be by Christ reconciled to his Maker and be made one in spirit with Him; i.e. the curse shall be removed, and the power of it killed and consumed.

Truly this is according to the current of the whole Scriptures, that everyone shall be made of one heart and one spirit, i.e. that all shall be brought to obey the Father, walk humbly before Him, and live in peace and love in Him. This is the doctrine of Christ and the gospel. This is glad tidings to hear of. When you are made to enjoy this doctrine as yours, then you shall know what it is to know the Son, and what it is to be set free by the Son."

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[ded2daworld]

yep. The trouble with youth today is they never abjure the rashness
and when they do they don't know that abjuring is what they are doing.

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GOD'S LIGHT DECLARED IN MYSTERIES – Richard Coppin

"What is hell? Tis the separation from the enjoyment that the soul is capable of.
They shall not come forth till they have paid the utmost farthing, then shall they receive mercy. For know that God is good, and He will not punish a finite being infinitely."

Richard Coppin also wrote a work with the following long title ---
"OF THE TORMENTS OF HELL; THE FOUNDATION AND PILLARS THEREOF DISCOVERED, SEARCHED, SHAKEN AND REMOVED, WITH INFALLABLE PROOF THAT THERE IS NOT TO BE A PUNISHMENT AFTER THIS LIFE THAT SHALL NEVER END FOR ANYONE TO ENDURE"

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Thomas Whittemore wrote, "Entirely upon the ground of the Scriptures, according to the views he entertained of them, Jeremy White wrote a work in defense of the doctrine of universal salvation called
THE RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS, OR A VINDICATION OF THE GOODNESS AND GRACE OF GOD, TO BE MANIFESTED AT LAST IN THE RECOVERY OF HIS WHOLE CREATION OUT OF THEIR FALL."

Thomas Whittemore continues, "Jeremy White believed that all are to be restored, and that we have the assurance of this truth in the character of God Who is love, to which His very anger is subservient, and that the Scriptures assure us of His complete abounding grace over all sin and all death."

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REASON AND PHILOSOPHY NO ENEMIES TO FAITH – William Whiston (translator of Josephus)

"The words used about the duration of torments in the New Testament, and all over the Septuagint, whence the language of the New Testament was taken, no where mean eternity. My reasons for that opinion I have long embraced, and intimated to the world against the eternity of hell torments."

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Sir Isaac Newton, commenting on Scriptures in the book of Revelation wrote

"The degree and duration of the torments of degenerate and anti-Christian people should be no other than would be approved of by those angels who had ever labored for their salvation, and the Lamb Who has redeemed them with His most precious blood."

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[Deena]

And the Lamb said, "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do." Thank you Father for providing the Lamb. Thank you Jesus for your faithfulness and grace.

[eaglesway]

Sir Isaac Newton, commenting on Scriptures in the book of Revelation wrote

"The degree and duration of the torments of degenerate and anti-Christian people should be no other than would be approved of by those angels who had ever labored for their salvation, and the Lamb Who has redeemed them with His most precious blood."

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Wow, now thats an apple falling from a tree if I ever heard one :o)

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THE PHILOSPHICAL PRINCIPLES OF NATURAL AND REVEALED RELIGION – Andrew Michael Ramsay

"Eternal Providence desires, wills and employs continually all the means necessary to lead intelligent creatures to ultimate and supreme happiness. Almighty Power, wisdom and love cannot be eternally frustrated in His absolute and ultimate designs: therefore, God will at last pardon and re-establish in happiness all lapsed beings."

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From a letter to Dr. Phillip Doddridge from Henry J. Barker:

"It is so. We read it in the book of God, that word and truth and gospel of our salvation, that as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. Yes Doddridge, it is so. The fruit of our Redeemer's sufferings and victory is the entire and eternal destruction of sin and death for everyone. And is it not a glorious destruction? A most blessed ruin? No enemy so formidable, no tyranny so bitter, no fetters so heavy and galling, no prison so dark and dismal, but they are vanquished and disarmed; the unerring dart is blunted and broken, the prison pulled down and razed. Our Lord is risen as the first fruits of them that slept."

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THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL – Paul Siegvolk

"As the centre of the whole Bible, whereat all its contents aim, is this, that by God in the beginning every thing was created very good; and that by Christ, the heavenly Wisdom, through Whom all things were created, all whatsoever is corrupted through sin, must at last be made good again. So may anyone whose eyes are opened to see clearly into this point, find a great many testimonies of this eternal truth, both in the books of the Old and New Testament."

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THE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE OF HAPPINESS - Gotthelf Samuel Steinbart

"God can never punish any, more than is necessary for his reformation. He cannot mistake in the choice of His means, and must always reach His end. He would appear less lovely if one creature should be forever miserable."

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APOLOGY FOR SOCRATES - Johann August Eberhard

"Punishment being an evil, cannot be employed by a good being, unless for ends whose goodness is greater than the evils suffered, and which could not be obtained without inflicting them. God punishes not for the common good only, but also for the reformation of the sufferer; which being accomplished, punishment has no further use. It was designed to influence the love and practice of virtue; and when these are produced, it must give place to the happy consequences of amendment. Punishment therefore, being a benefit even to the sufferer, when properly viewed by him, must produce emotions of love and gratitude."

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[eaglesway]

IMO, God's discipline/punishment is in the realm of "as you sow so shall you reap". The consequences of our attitudes and the actions that spring from them...."I am He that tries the reigns and the hearts".

The sole purpose is to change the viewpoint of the "punished/disciplined one" so that they see the love of God- and the overwhelming transcendency of sacrificial love as the fundamental essence of all being and relationship- only given by the grace of God through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.......Until the knee is bowed in humble recognition and the tongue confesses in joyous liberation from the imprisonment of the self willed life- Praise You For Your Sacrifice Lord Jesus; Glory Unto You, Eternal Father for setting me FREE!

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IMO, God's discipline/punishment is in the realm of "as you sow so shall you reap". The consequences of our attitudes and the actions that spring from them...."I am He that tries the reigns and the hearts".

The sole purpose is to change the viewpoint of the "punished/disciplined one" so that they see the love of God- and the overwhelming transcendency of sacrificial love as the fundamental essence of all being and relationship- only given by the grace of God through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.......Until the knee is bowed in humble recognition and the tongue confesses in joyous liberation from the imprisonment of the self willed life- Praise You For Your Sacrifice Lord Jesus; Glory Unto You, Eternal Father for setting me FREE!

Well put eaglesway!

HISTORY OF THE CHURCH – John Le Clerc
"Christ's judgment will be conducted so that its justice shall be seen by all. For the great diversity of crimes there will be a proportional variety of punishments, whatever they consist in. Aionios may be considered an indefinite duration to which God hath placed no limits known to us, the word sometimes signifying an AGE."

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INTRODUCTION OF JOHN'S GOSPEL – Samuel Crellius

"I am persuaded that all men will be finally saved by Jesus Christ, and delivered from the torments of hell."

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PHILOSOPHICAL AND CRITICAL INQUIRIES CONCERNING CHRISTIANITY – Charles Bonnet

"It will be suitable to the spirit of the whole system of thought to set forth the pains of the wicked as aionion, or rather of an indefinite duration.

If in the Supreme Being, justice be goodness guided by wisdom; if Almighty Benevolence essentially requires the improvement of all intelligent beings; if punishments can be the means of leading to perfection; if there be more joy in heaven over one sinner that repenteth; if there be much love where much has been forgiven: My heart leaps for joy – I am lost in admiration – what a wonderful chain of doctrines! The compassion of the Only Good is infinite – 'He desireth not the death of a sinner; but that he should turn from his wickedness and live.' God DESIRETH! – and shall He desire in vain?

The celestial heralds commissioned to celebrate by their hymns the glad tidings, were to instruct these shepherds in the object and the extent of the mission of Christ – on earth peace, good will towards men – GOOD WILL – not towards one single elected nation, but towards all the nations of the world. GOOD WILL – not to one single generation; but to every generation past and to come. The Benevolence of the Best and greatest of Beings includes all mankind, BECAUSE HE IS THE FATHER OF ALL."

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THE MODERN HISTORY OF UNIVERSALISM – Thomas Whittimore

"In his book THOUGHTS ON DIVINE GOODNESS, Ferdinand Oliver Petitpierre taught that men are sinners, and God punishes them with severity; but this severity is dictated by goodness, and all the punishments God inflicts are declared to be for the sinner's good.

How opposed to this is the dreadful doctrine of eternal punishment, an error which grew up under a misconception of the meaning of the word rendered everlasting. God punishes always to reform, a fact which the author establishes with the most irresistible reasoning.

'These shall go away into eonian punishment' in which the word rendered punishment, he maintains, quoting the authority of Wittenbach, and Grotius, signifies a remedial, corrective discipline. The infinite authority of God is entirely founded on His goodness.
'Eternal' punishment is real evil, an infinite evil, in which everything conspires to exclude from God's plan of the ages."

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ERSKINE'S SKETCHES OF CHURCH HISTORY records the words of John Gasper Christian Lavater.

"God is not gracious in time and cruel through eternity. Ascribe not to God, what in a human judge all would account a defect in wisdom and goodness, the punishing for the sake of punishing. It is enough my Creator, Thou art love. Love seeketh not her own; Thou seekest the happiness of all, and shouldst Thou not then find what Thou seekest? Shouldst Thou not be able to do what Thou willest?

My prayers are comprehensive. I embrace in my heart all men; present and future times, and nations, yea Satan himself. I present them all to God, with the warmest wishes that He will have mercy on them all."

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WHAT IS TRUTH? ABSOLUTE AND RELATIVE – Don Bast (published 2011)

"It has taken me a long time to unlearn the harmful instruction received over many years of indoctrination. It is God's word alone that is the trustworthy source of truth. The good news of the glory of our happy God (1Tim. 1:11) will expose the error and set us free from the spiritual bondage of man's creeds.

At the present time salvation is enjoyed only by those who believe; the balance of mankind will be saved at the consummation. A savior is one who actually saves. God is the savior of all mankind, not just the 'potential' savior. When the truth concerning the eons displaces the error about eternity, judgment and grace are seen to work harmoniously together till each reaches its predestined goal. All the threats of punishment to follow the judgment of the wicked can be accepted at their full, dreadful value without doing violence to our innate sense of justice, and without denying the predictions of a final victory of grace.

Someday the entire creation itself shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God, and is groaning and travailing, even now, in anticipation. We ourselves also, who have the first fruit of the spirit, we also are groaning in ourselves, awaiting the sonship, the deliverance of our body. For to expectation were we saved (Rom. 8:21-24).

Whatever trials and troubles come our way we are assured that it is not a sign of God's anger or even displeasure. The bond of love we share with God through His Son will never be broken. His desire to please us and be with us never changes. The love of God in our hearts is our steadfast anchor through all the storms of life."

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[ded2daworld]

I love when someone you've never met or talked to states your thoughts
as if you had been best friends for years. :dsunny: