Welcome to 1984

[WhiteWings]

chief scientist for the Israeli education ministry.

I can understand the evolutionists want to push their idea's.
But evolustion is debunked or at least greatly challenged by other fields of science (micro-biology) and imo by statistics.
I've never seen a Israeli school book on the subject but my guess is that it's full of Haeckel drawings and the classic fish to man drawings.
It makes me wonder why those that kicked Avital out, don't make sure the "new" idea's on evolution are put in the schoolbooks.
Flat earth science has long been removed from schoolbooks. Why that old evolution view is still in the books? Or at the very least present both scientific views.
If it comes down to it microbiology is much more science than the classic evolution theory. Microbiologists can show and prove things they claim over and over in their labs.
While the Darwinian camp has so much black holes in their theory a whole creation fits into it....

[Molly]

If you are asking why don't they do a better job of propaganda, ww, I would have to surmise because they don't have to as they are in total control now.

Either that, or they are subject to fits of sloppiness.

We see the same problem everywhere, even in the reporting of various stories in the media.  They just can't seem to get their act together, or they won't.

This man was apparently in charge of science education before he was fired, but he is also a noted scientist himself.  I wonder if he'll be able to get hired anywhere now.

[WhiteWings]

My guess is that it will be hard. Climate skeptics have problems getting hired too.

If you are asking why don't they do a better job of propaganda, ww,

I editted my message. I managed to contradict myself is one sentance  :winkgrin:

Dunno if it's all propaganda. People have different views on anything. Sports, politics, denominations, etc.
But a school should teach all recognized views.

[Nil Recurring]

1984 is one of my favorite pieces of literature, I've read it several times and have written essays about it.

But I think we will fall into a scenario similar to Aldous Huxley's Brave New World before an Orwellian state ever arises.

[micah7:9]

My guess is that it will be hard. Climate skeptics have problems getting hired too.

If you are asking why don't they do a better job of propaganda, ww,

I editted my message. I managed to contradict myself is one sentance  :winkgrin:

Dunno if it's all propaganda. People have different views on anything. Sports, politics, denominations, etc.
But a school should teach all recognized views.

Not in America!

[Molly]

Weep with me...or go back to sleep...Or let's go to the airports, streets, and bus stations and start singing together...


My country,' tis of thee,
   sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing;
   land where my fathers died,
   land of the pilgrims' pride,
   from every mountainside let freedom ring!

2.   My native country, thee,
   land of the noble free, thy name I love;
   I love thy rocks and rills,
   thy woods and templed hills;
   my heart with rapture thrills, like that above.

3.   Let music swell the breeze,
   and ring from all the trees sweet freedom's song;
   let mortal tongues awake;
   let all that breathe partake;
   let rocks their silence break, the sound prolong.

4.   Our fathers' God, to thee,
   author of liberty, to thee we sing;
   long may our land be bright
   with freedom's holy light;
   protect us by thy might, great God, our King.


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http://www.hymnsite.com/lyrics/umh697.sht


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ciZjAAaK_4&feature=related


http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/06/01/mta-officers-detain-man-for-taking-pictures/

[micah7:9]

Hello to you, and glad to meet you from me 2011!

[Molly]

BLUEBIRD
Deliberate Creation of Multiple
Personality by Psychiatrists

By Colin A. Ross MD

A 10-Page Summary



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In this summary of Bluebird, Dr. Ross describes unethical experiments conducted by psychiatrists to create amnesia, new identities, hypnotic access codes, and new memories in the minds of experimental subjects. His research is based on 15,000 pages of documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. Dr. Ross is a past president of the International Society for the Study of Dissociation. Please help to spread the word.

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Historical Background

The Manchurian Candidate is compelling evidence for the reality of therapist-created multiple personality disorder. The condition has been created deliberately by mind control doctors. Experiments to create Manchurian Candidate "super spies" must be understood in their social and historical context, which is one of pervasive, systematic mind control experimentation, not by a few isolated renegade doctors, but by the leaders of psychiatry and the major medical schools. Because this book is likely to provoke extreme reactions, I have taken great care to present only facts which are fully documented and based on objective, public domain information. Page E

The basic premise of the book The Manchurian Candidate [1] is that a group of American POWs in the Korean War is brainwashed while crossing through Manchuria to freedom. They arrive back in the US amnesic for the period of brainwashing, and one of them has been programmed to be an assassin. His target is a candidate for president of the US. His Asian handlers control him with a hypnotically implanted trigger, a particular playing card. P. 23

Multiple personality disorder is now classified by the American Psychiatric Association [2] as dissociative identity disorder. According to my definition, the Manchurian Candidate is an experimentally created dissociative identity disorder that meets the following four criteria:

Created deliberately
A new identity is implanted
Amnesia barriers are created
Used in simulated or actual operations
That the CIA created Manchurian Candidates is a fact, and easy to understand and justify from a national security perspective. I am not criticizing the CIA or the military because I am not an expert on intelligence matters. I am a psychiatrist specializing in dissociative disorders. Page G

BLUEBIRD blows the whistle on extensive political abuse of psychiatry in North America in the second half of the 20th century. Many thousands of prisoners and mental patients were subjected to unethical mind control experiments by leading psychiatrists and medical schools. Organized academic psychiatry has never acknowledged this history. The network of mind control doctors involved in BLUEBIRD has done a great deal of harm to the field of psychiatry and to psychiatric patients. My goal is to break the ugly silence. Page K

The participation of psychiatrists and medical schools in mind control research was not a matter of a few scattered doctors pursuing questionable lines of investigation. Rather, the mind control experimentation was systematic, organized, and involved many leading psychiatrists and medical schools. The mind control experiments were interwoven with radiation experiments, and research on chemical and biological weapons. They were funded by the CIA, Army, Navy, Air Force, and by other agencies including the Public Health Service and the Scottish Rite Foundation. Page F

The psychiatrists, psychologists, neurosurgeons, and other contractors conducting the work were imbedded in a broad network of doctors. Much of the research was published in medical journals. The climate was permissive, supportive, and approving of mind control experimentation. P. F, 1

The work of the mind control doctors did not occur in a vacuum. The importation of Nazi doctors to the US through secret programs like PAPERCLIP is part of the context. After the end of World War II, German scientists and technical experts were being held in detainment camps. The British, French, Americans, and Russians became embroiled in highly competitive recruiting efforts to secure the services of these German specialists. The prospect of losing the industrial and scientific services of these German experts lead to the creation of Project PAPERCLIP. [3][4][5] P. 1, 3

Over 1,000 German scientists were secretly brought into the US without State Department approval. The most famous individual brought over in this manner was Werner von Braun, the rocket scientist. Von Braun was the head of the German V2 rocket program. The NASA rockets that took Neil Armstrong to the moon were built by von Braun and his colleagues. Medical doctors also came over under PAPERCLIP. P. 3, 4

Likewise, the Tuskeegee Syphilis Study helps us understand how mind control experimentation was not only tolerated by medical professionals, but published in peer-reviewed literature. [6][7] The Study, started in Alabama in 1932, was run by the Public Health Service. 399 illiterate, poor rural black men with syphilis were recruited as subjects, along with 201 controls without syphilis. The purpose of the Study was to make sure the 399 men never got treatment. The subjects and their families weren't told they had syphilis and didn't know it was treatable. They were told that they had bad blood. P. 1, 9, 10

The cure for syphilis, penicillin, was introduced in the early 1940's. It was withheld from the Tuskeegee men for 30 years. The published results of the Study showed the men with untreated syphilis were sicker and died younger than controls. [8] How many women were infected with syphilis because these men were deliberately not treated? How many children were born with syphilis because of the Study? P. 11

The Tuskeegee Syphilis Study was eventually shut down in 1972 because of the efforts of an investigative journalist. There is no evidence to suggest that the government or the medical profession had any intention of closing the study as of 1972. People and organizations that knew about the Study included the Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, and the Center for Disease Control. Throughout its 40-year course, the Tuskeegee Study was praised and received various honors. P. 9-13

The Tuskeegee Study establishes that a large network of doctors and organization were willing to participate in, fund, and condone grossly unethical medical experimentation into the 1970's. The Study proves that considerable external pressure is often required before the medical profession takes the necessary action to terminate such experimentation. P. 14

Unethical radiation experiments were conducted on about 600 subjects [9][10][11] in the US beginning in the 1940's and running into the 1970's. Many people were injected with plutonium and exposed to other forms of radiation without their informed consent. 18 patients were injected with plutonium in an experiment run by the MANHATTAN PROJECT. Prisoners in Washington and Oregon state prisons were paid to have their testicles irradiated. They got $5 a month for the irradiation. During the experiment, which ran from 1963 to 1971, the subjects' testicles were exposed to 600 roentgen of radiation, which is 100 times the maximum recommended dose. P. 15-17

Clouds of radioactive material were released into the atmosphere and tracked as they moved downwind, often through populated areas. In one experiment code-named GREEN RUN, radioactive iodine-131 released from the Hanford Nuclear Facility drifted over Spokane. The cloud contained hundreds of times as much radiation as was released accidentally at Three Mile Island in 1979. P. 17

As was true of mind control and biological weapon research, radiation research experiments were conducted on children and unwitting civilians. In 1961, researchers at Harvard Medical School, Massachusetts General Hospital, and Boston University School of Medicine gave radioactive iodine to seventy retarded children at Wrentham State School. At Fernald School, MIT gave radioactive substances to children by putting it in their food. No risks of radioactivity were mentioned in the consent form signed by the parents. The consent form stated that the purpose of the experiments was "helping to improve the nutrition of our children." P. 15, 18

Dr. Saul Krugman of New York University and his staff deliberately injected severely mentally retarded children at Willowbrook State School with hepatitis virus in the 1950's and 1960's, [12] funded by the Army Medical Research and Development Command. To date there has been no compensation for victims of unethical biological experiments. P. 18, 19

Army doctors were actively involved in LSD testing at least until the late 1970's. Subjects of LSD experiments included children as young as five years old, and brain electrodes were implanted in children as young as 11 years of age. Four of the CIA's MKULTRA Subprojects were on children. The mind control doctors included Presidents of the American Psychiatric Association and psychiatrists who received full-page obituaries in the American Journal of Psychiatry. Responsibility for the unethical experimentation lies first with the individual doctors, but also collectively with the medical profession and with academia as a whole. P. 21

http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg

[micah7:9]

I took LSD in the 70's I used cocaine, I smoked pot, I drank moonshine, I drank real whiskey, I smoked Camels(non filter for 40 years.) I also watched the original Manchurian Candidate, Easy Rider, The Graduate, just what is meant by "Welcome to 1984?" Orwell wrote a book that was futurist  and it proved to me right on. But and just what has that to do with Jesus Christ The Saviour of the World? What has "Welcome to 1984?" to do with the the reconciliation? Its just me :sigh:

[Molly]

I took LSD in the 70's I used cocaine, I smoked pot, I drank moonshine, I drank real whiskey, I smoked Camels(non filter for 40 years.) I also watched the original Manchurian Candidate, Easy Rider, The Graduate, just what is meant by "Welcome to 1984?" Orwell wrote a book that was futurist  and it proved to me right on. But and just what has that to do with Jesus Christ The Saviour of the World? What has "Welcome to 1984?" to do with the the reconciliation? Its just me :sigh:

You took LSD, Micah?  Now you could knock me over with a feather.  I never would have guessed that.

But, there is a huge difference between taking such a drug willingly, and it being given surreptitiously to young adults and children by medical doctors and prestigious universities for experimental reasons.  Wouldn't you say?

Hebrews 5:14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

[Cardinal]

 :sigh: Have read some on the Manchurian candidates......none of it is surprising. Funny though, the US condemned the Nazis (and rightly so) for experimenting on the Jews and other prisoners, and yet the US was just as guilty of doing the same. How is He NOT going to hold this country accountable at some point?

[micah7:9]

 :sigh:Best for me to just stay out this 1984 discussion, I never watched Startrek, and I was never into SciFi. I really dont like to mix the study of the Bible with politics. Tho I do find George Nori AM Radio, I find it interesting, the subjects and the tellers.

[WhiteWings]

Christ The Saviour of the World? What has "Welcome to 1984?" to do with the the reconciliation? Its just me :sigh:

All money will be reconciled in one pocket.

[micah7:9]

Yes.

[WhiteWings]

As we enter the third century of the suppression of science, voices continue to be silenced... :sigh:


Heresy in Israel! Chief education scientist dismissed for denying evolution and global warming

There are more deniers than most people know.

http://www.hetvrijevolk.com/files/docs/minorityreportwarming.pdf

[WhiteWings]

:sigh:


Posted By Dr. Mercola | November 11 2010 | 6,279 views
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Over the past 15 years or so, a collection of five giant biotech corporations -- Monsanto, Syngenta, Bayer, Dow and DuPont -- have bought up more than 200 other companies, allowing them to dominate access to seeds.

Their weed killer Round up is even worse.
It attacks everything not being genetically manipulated Monsanto stuff. It has a half-time of 42 years. That means that only Monsanto crops will grow on the land because weed killer residu in the soil keeps killing the non gentech crops. That gives the farmers 2 choices. Only use Monsanta seed or don't use the land for decades....
Well.... they only have that choice if they are able to kill the new mutated superweed.... http://abcnews.go.com/WN/pig-weed-threatens-agriculture-industry-overtaking-fields-crops/Story?id=8766404&page=1


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/oldbusiness/1372852.stm

[micah7:9]

WW I find this post very interesting, Ive known some of it for sometime, still information good to know. But I ask you this question, finding out all this information that seems to be totally devastating to the world as we know it, do consider the thought that "everything" that has happened and is happening is the very way the Lord God has or had in mind?

[WhiteWings]

Don't ask me. I'm no teacher.....  :winkgrin:

I have a view on it. But that's a very slippery slope because it for example also means God had mass murder, rape and satanism in mind....
Anyway. God saw the future at creation. He still created as He created while He had the power to do things differently. So the answer is yes.
Whoops :mblush:

[micah7:9]

From what I have read, am told, and believe....in Gen.1:27 is that He is in the process of creating/preparing He hasnt finished yet.

[Nathan]

While I agree that God's creative nature isn't finished . .. it's infinite really . . .

I'm not sure how you came to that by the reading of Genesis 1:27.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

I believe he created an atmosphere where creativeness is in the atmosphere . . .

2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The face of the deep and the face of the waters are actually two different things.  The word "waters" actually has connections with the word "semen".  The "moving" of the spirit over the face (identity) of the waters is to me an act of creativity just as a man and a woman "move" in intimacy for the seed of life to be released from man into the woman . . .the spirit of life was released into the womb of the earth, creating an atmosphere charged with atoms that react to voice command . . .And God "said" . . . we have that same power as the tongue has the power to kill or to give life.  But literally . . .we have the power in our words to change our atmospheres . . .it delves into the quantum realm a bit, but it's truth nonetheless.

Bottom line . . ."in" this realm of death and decay, God created it also as a realm that reacts to our words to bring creative life, or constrictive destruction.

[Molly]

Don't ask me. I'm no teacher.....  :winkgrin:

I have a view on it. But that's a very slippery slope because it for example also means God had mass murder, rape and satanism in mind....
Anyway. God saw the future at creation. He still created as He created while He had the power to do things differently. So the answer is yes.
Whoops :mblush:

To my mind, it's just the maturing of the wheat and the tares.

Evil has never before been so obvious to me as it is in this day.

That's why I keep telling you I can't wait another 20 years. :icon_king:

[WhiteWings]

From what I have read, am told, and believe....in Gen.1:27 is that He is in the process of creating/preparing He hasnt finished yet.

Yes and no.
I think God stoped creating because it's still His Sabbath day.
But when Jesus was questioned by the priests about healing on Sabbath He answered something like "Doesn't Father heal on Sabbath also?"
If healing is creating then the answer is yes. Otherwise it's no.

I can't find the verse; but I'm sure someone can. :2c:

[micah7:9]

While I agree that God's creative nature isn't finished . .. it's infinite really . . .

I'm not sure how you came to that by the reading of Genesis 1:27.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them

I believe he created an atmosphere where creativeness is in the atmosphere . . .

2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The face of the deep and the face of the waters are actually two different things.  The word "waters" actually has connections with the word "semen".  The "moving" of the spirit over the face (identity) of the waters is to me an act of creativity just as a man and a woman "move" in intimacy for the seed of life to be released from man into the woman . . .the spirit of life was released into the womb of the earth, creating an atmosphere charged with atoms that react to voice command . . .And God "said" . . . we have that same power as the tongue has the power to kill or to give life.  But literally . . .we have the power in our words to change our atmospheres . . .it delves into the quantum realm a bit, but it's truth nonetheless.

Bottom line . . ."in" this realm of death and decay, God created it also as a realm that reacts to our words to bring creative life, or constrictive destruction.

I believe and understand that it is the same for Gen 1:1  In the beginning of God's preparing the heavens and the earth-- (YLT)  createdH1254 bârâ'  A primitive root; (absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes): - choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).
These words are active
(H853)  'êth  1) sign of the definite direct object, not translated in English but generally preceding and indicating the accusative
God is creating.

[WhiteWings]

Don't ask me. I'm no teacher.....  :winkgrin:

I have a view on it. But that's a very slippery slope because it for example also means God had mass murder, rape and satanism in mind....
Anyway. God saw the future at creation. He still created as He created while He had the power to do things differently. So the answer is yes.
Whoops :mblush:

To my mind, it's just the maturing of the wheat and the tares.

Evil has never before been so obvious to me as it is in this day.

Ok. But that doesn't change my point/view. A all powerful God could have created a world without tars. But He didn't.

That's why I keep telling you I can't wait another 20 years. :icon_king:

Sorry to inform you of this Molly but for you it will be 12 October 3011  :winkgrin:

[sheila]

  I watched a documentary on that a few years ago.Basically they are eradica ting all natural strains of seed and going to monopolize the worlds food supply.

   Mexico,a world reservoir of ancient corn,pure strains..is vey concerned of contamination by the genetical engineered  strains.

    It is falling from seed bags along the road and contaminating their pure strains.The corn looks very malformed,freaky