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[micah7:9]

"We are children of the day- the night cannot take us as a thief- now or ever. Let us so speak and so act as children of the day and watch, for the night approaches, when no man can work.   The night will come to everyone, as will the Day. So, Today, if you hear His voice..... therefore while there remains a promise of entering, let us enter His rest, having ceased from our own works, and our own words too ;o)" Eaglesway

:HeartThrob: :bigGrin:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: @ WW....keep digging, it's in there......

[WhiteWings]

I can assure you it's not.
If I dig this abyss any deeper I end up in Aussie land  :winkgrin:

[WhiteWings]

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/3018483820_34134d8d23.jpg)

Afflictions, Refining Influence Of: The Tribulum
In the pictures of the ancient Roman method of threshing grain, one man is always seen stirring up the sheaves while another rides over them in a crude cart equipped with rollers instead of wheels. Sharp stones and rough bits of iron were attached to these cylinders to help separate the husks from the grain. This simple cart was called a tribulum -- from which we get our word "tribulation." When great affliction comes to us, we often think of ourselves as being torn to pieces under the cruel pressures of adverse circumstances. Yet as no thresher ever yoked up his tribulum for the mere purpose of tearing up his sheaves but to disclose the precious grain, so our loving Savior never puts us under the pressure of sorrow and disappointment needlessly.
http://client.visuallink.com/~ggm/ggs/gg-1999-02/gg-99-02.html
The "Tribulum" Tool

I know thy... tribulation... but...
be thou faithful... and I will give
thee a crown of life. 

(Revelation 2:9,10)

     Thousands of years ago, farmers used a tool called a "tribulum" to separate the chaff from their wheat. Today our word "tribulation" is derived from the name of that tool.
     Just as the ancient farmers used a tribulum to separate the chaff from their wheat, God uses tribulations to separate the chaff from our lives.
      Therefore, "think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is come to try you" (1 Peter 4:12). "Knowing... that the trying of your faith worketh patience... that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing" (James 1:3,4).





http://www.endtimeschristianity.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_files/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=170
EXCERPT ----------------- FROM >

THE PASSOVER (BARLEY) HARVEST / THE RAPTURE HARVEST (PERRY STONE)
Approximately 40 minutes into the second sermon preached by Perry Stone
on February 12, 2006 at Rod Parsley's church, he told how the 3 major Jewish
Feasts had to do with the Lord's harvest of the earth.

...Barley harvest - Passover
...Wheat harvest - Pentecost
...Fruit / grape harvest - Tabernacles

In describing this, he said:

..."Here's what you MUST understand, they are all harvested differently!
...Barley has a SOFT shell. You cannot step on barley or you'll 'CRUSH'
...it. They take a 'fan' (it looks like a pitch fork) and they gather the barley
...together and they throw it up in the air the 'WIND' separates the outer
...shell from the meat which is the barley itself and they they collect the
...barley and bring it in. In the Book of Ruth, it was barley harvest."

This is the way he described these "SEPARATIONS" which are done
during these 3 "harvests" / Feasts:

..."When you go to separate this (barley), you do it by 'WIND'. When you
...go to separate this (wheat), there was a board and it's a board that you
...stand on and you take an animal and you stand on that board and you
...hook it to the animal and you go over top of the wheat (because wheat
...is very hard). And that board separates that grain and gets the wheat
...out is called, in Latin, a 'tribulum' from which we get the word, 'tribulation'.
...There is NO 'tribulum' used at Passover with the barley. A 'tribulum' is
...used at this feast (Pentecost) to separate the chaff from the wheat.
...And then, the grapes are UTTERLY, TOTALLY CRUSHED!!!"

..."The barley harvest is a picture of the saints whose hearts are 'TENDER'
...who do NOT have to be separated as wheat and chaff. Then, later on in
...the Tribulation, there is a separation of wheat and tare. There's the 144,000
...Jews that will be caught up to the throne of God. And during the Tribulum or ...the Trubulation there will be a CRUSHING on the earth that will separate the ...wheat from the chaff. Then the grape harvest comes at the END."

Perry Stone went on to say:

..."Revelation 4:1 is the RAPTURE of the church. It's the BARLEY
...HARVEST because the BARLEY doesn't have to go through
...'TRIBULUM'...the barley doesn't have to go through TRIBULATION!
...The WIND is the HOLY GHOST and all we have to do is let the
...HOLY GHOST blow over us and blow the junk out of us and blow
...the carnality out of us!

...The OVERCOMERS are represented by barley! But you get in
...the middle of the Tribulation and guess what you've got? You've
...got CHAFF on the wheat and so you've got to take this and you've
...got a tribulum and you've got to CRUSH it! You've got to CRUSH
...it to find out WHO is standing for God and who IS NOT!

...In Revelation 4:1, the 'CHURCH' is caught up to God but in the
...middle of the Tribulation, the 144,000 are CAUGHT UP to God.
...And at the END of the Tribulation (Revelation 14) it talks about
...the GRAPES OF WRATH!!! Take your sickle and go to the
...vineyard that's NOW RIPE and cut the grapes and throw the
...grapes into the winepress of MY WRATH!!! That is the LAST
...PART of the Tribulation period where the CRUSHING takes
...place and the winepress comes out to the city of Jerusalem
...and blood is to the horses bridle.

...You see, when you understand the law of harvest, it clears up
...this WHOLE thing. Is the Church going UP before the Tribulation...
...in the middle...at the end? God has NOT appointed us to wrath
...but to obtain salvation through His Son. That's what He said.
...He said, 'Pray that you be accounted worthy to escape these
...things and stand before the Son of Man.' He said, 'Because
...you've kept the Word of My patience, I'll keep you from the hour
...of testing which is coming for ALL THE EARTH.' He's NOT
...appointed us to the grape wrath!!!"

To me, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to draw a clearer picture of where we are today!!! Perry Stone didn't mention about the Pleiades being SWEPT THROUGH by the moon on a "4/1"!!! But, ironically, he DID mention
Revelation "4:1" SEVERAL times as the "BARLEY HARVEST"!!!

GOD BLESS!!!

Calvin

There is more but I think the above is enough.
I think it would be nice to dig a bit deeper into this using the verses in this post.
Maybe as a seperate thread?

[thinktank]

I think its called great tribulation because, it is speeding up normal tribulation. Most christians go through tribulation, but the great tribulation is God wanting to do a quick work and so it is intense tribulation for those who are being tried by fire.

Millions of christians will have to go to prison and suffer for christ and others matyred, but for those who are worthy/ready to escape God will spare them from his chastening.


Perry stone is someone who is on fire for God, he's got a ton of revelation, I think God is using him a lot.

[WhiteWings]

I think its called great tribulation because, it is speeding up normal tribulation.

It's harvest time. The last harvest of the year is the biggest. The first harvest (first fruit) is small.
So great likely just means "many people are harvested"

μέγας
megas
Thayer Definition:
1) great
1a) of the external form or sensible appearance of things (or of persons)
1a1) in particular, of space and its dimensions, as respects
1a1a) mass and weight: great
1a1b) compass and extent: large, spacious
1a1c) measure and height: long
1a1d) stature and age: great, old
1b) of number and quantity: numerous, large, abundant
1c) of age: the elder
1d) used of intensity and its degrees: with great effort, of the affections and emotions of the mind, of natural events powerfully affecting the senses: violent, mighty, strong
2) predicated of rank, as belonging to
2a) persons, eminent for ability, virtue, authority, power
2b) things esteemed highly for their importance: of great moment, of great weight, importance
2c) a thing to be highly esteemed for its excellence: excellent
3) splendid, prepared on a grand scale, stately
4) great things
4a) of God's preeminent blessings
4b) of things which overstep the province of a created being, proud (presumptuous) things, full of arrogance, derogatory to the majesty of God
Part of Speech: adjective
A Related Word by Thayer's/Strong's Number: [including the prolonged forms, feminine megale, plural megaloi, etc., compare also G3176, G3187]
Citing in TDNT: 4:529, 573

Millions of christians will have to go to prison

Or.... many are let out of prision.
What we call wheat, or the useful part of wheat is packed into a shell/bran. http://www.namamillers.org/images/CrossSectionViewofWheat.gif
The tribulation device cracks open that shell/bran which is a prision for the stuff inside.....
The whole harvesting process is seperating wheat from chaff. Both are the part of the same plant.
What if: wheat=spirit & Chaff=body
Just a thought.....

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Obviously can't vouch for the veracity of this, but someone sent me this......


Owning the Weather in 2025: Still think they can't alter the weather?

http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/400/

January 13, 2011 by ppjg





Marti Oakley (C) 2011  All Rights Reserved



Updated from original article in 2008......



_"It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify space weather... and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of [military]technologies."_

_________________________________





Even if you don't read this article, which is surely just my opinion, at least take the time to read this report prepared for the Air Force in 1996 and ask yourself if you can honestly conclude that the bizarre weather that has struck in all parts of the U.S in the last four to five years might not really be the result of intentional weather disruption and creation.



The experimentation with the HAARP program emanating from Alaska has gone on unabated and largely ignored by the MSM for at least 15 years.  Ice sheets melting at an alarmingly fast rate in the Arctic seem not to be newsworthy, as are the deaths of indigenous animals and marine life in that area.  Just call it global warming and let the war of words and theories begin.  But!  Whatever you do, never, ever mention HAARP. 



Centralized in Gokona, Alaska, HAARP became functional in 1992 using high powered transmission antenna's that blast enormous waves of electrical energy into our outer atmosphere called the ionosphere.  These blasts will and do cause changes in the temperature of the ionosphere, at times heating it to extreme temperatures which directly affects changes in temperatures on earth.  If reflected back to earth, these same energy bursts can disrupt the rhythm of internal organs not only of animals but also of humans. 



Excerpted from the original document:



Weather As A Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025

"It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify space weather... and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of [military] technologies." (end excerpt)


Our DoD in collusion with military sponsored scientists have acquired the ability to alter weather patterns, at will.  The Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is connected to the "Star Wars" Strategic Defense Initiative.  Raytheon Corporation owns the HAARP patents along with the US Air Force and British Aerospace Systems (BAES) and as of 2004 Raytheon has received the contracts to construct more advanced antenna's capable of producing even more devastation around the globe not only causing great segments of populations to die from famine, but also from thirst, flood, tsunami's, tornado's, hurricanes and even earthquakes.



Mentioned in the report is the use of nano-technology, a virtually new and experimental technology in 1996.  Today in 2008, nano-technology is common knowledge. 



Excerpted:

"Nanotechnology also offers possibilities for creating simulated weather. A cloud, or several clouds, of microscopic computer particles, all communicating with each other and with a larger control system could provide tremendous capability. Interconnected, atmospherically buoyant, and having navigation capability in three dimensions, such clouds could be designed to have a wide-range of properties. They might exclusively block optical sensors or could adjust to become impermeable to other surveillance methods. They could also provide an atmospheric electrical potential difference, which otherwise might not exist, to achieve precisely aimed and timed lightning strikes. Even if power levels achieved were insufficient to be an effective strike weapon, the potential for psychological operations in many situations could be fantastic. (end excerpt)

Artificial Weather

"While most weather-modification efforts rely on the existence of certain preexisting conditions, it may be possible to produce some weather effects artificially, regardless of preexisting conditions. For instance, virtual weather could be created by influencing the weather information received by an end user. Their perception of parameter values or images from global or local meteorological information systems would differ from reality. This difference in perception would lead the end user to make degraded operational decisions.

One major advantage of using simulated weather to achieve a desired effect is that unlike other approaches, it makes what are otherwise the results of deliberate actions appear to be the consequences of natural weather phenomena. In addition, it is potentially relatively inexpensive to do. According to J. Storrs Hall, a scientist at Rutgers University conducting research on nanotechnology, production costs of these nanoparticles could be about the same price per pound as potatoes.52 This of course discounts research and development costs, which will be primarily borne by the private sector and be considered a sunk cost by 2025 and probably earlier. " (end excerpt) 

When I consider the bizarre and cataclysmic weather events that have happened in just the last three years all around the globe, I can't really come to the conclusion that "global warming" caused by human activity as told to us, is the cause.  The conclusion I am coming to is that what is being warmed is the ionosphere, and that is being done intentionally by humans wearing military uniforms and those in our government who seek world domination and want to begin that domination right here at home.  What better way to make the rest of the world beg for mercy and submit voluntarily, than to destroy the population of the once greatest and most prosperous society and nation on earth?  If we fall, it will have a domino affect. 



If this report does nothing else, it should wake you up to the reality that the government of the United States is the greatest enemy of the people.  Gone is the time when we could afford ourselves the romantic notion that our government existed only to benefit and to defend us; that this nation was comprised of honorable individuals in our government who loved our country as much as we, the common citizens, do. Our government is comprised of narcissistic monsters who believe only a few are qualified to occupy space on this planet and that those who are allowed to exist outside of this closed club of megalomaniacs should exist only in a state of controlled servitude.



The closer I come to this conclusion I have to ask:  When the majority of us are gone, dead from your experiments, your bio-weapons, electromagnetic weapons, your lab created infections and disease, your contamination and destruction of food and water, your wars of greed and your active efforts to commit genocide where ever and whenever possible......what will be left for you to own and control?  And when this end comes.....at what point will you turn on each other? 



Marti Oakley (c)2008/2010



Owning the Weather in 2025

http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/v3c15/v3c15-1.htm

Nanotechnology http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/v3c15/v3c15-1.htm

[Molly]

Judge Rules Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional

Published January 31, 2011

| FoxNews.com

A U.S. district judge on Monday threw out the nation's health care law, declaring it unconstitutional because it violates the Commerce Clause and surely reviving a feud among competing philosophies about the role of government.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/31/judges-ruling-health-care-lawsuit-shift-momentum-coverage-debate/

[Nathan]

I heard they're basically going to ignore the judge's ruling and move forward as though it didn't happen.

[Molly]

I heard they're basically going to ignore the judge's ruling and move forward as though it didn't happen.

The Republican house has to fund it.  Good luck with that.

[Molly]

'In the meantime, he is keeping a close eye on the Middle East. He was struck by the Egyptian protesters' discipline in remaining peaceful, and especially by their lack of fear. "That is straight out of Gandhi," Mr. [Gene] Sharp said. "If people are not afraid of the dictatorship, that dictatorship is in big trouble."'

--New York Times, Feb 16, 2011

http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD.pdf



Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

[Molly]

Here you go, ww.  A conference in Amsterdam on hidden technology.  You free on April 3? :winkgrin:


http://www.secretspaceprogram.com/

[thinktank]

Bin Laden, possibly dead.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/01/usama-bin-laden-dead-say-sources/

[Aleax]

Possibly a psy-op. Officials are now parroting warnings about possible revenge strikes. Coming soon to a town near you: Another False Flag?

[WhiteWings]

Or perhaps just part of his election campaign.
a] Bin Laden caught.
b] Abu Ghraib where not innocent because they gave info that led to Bin's capture.
c] The same prisoners warned of a nuclear hell. Good reason to bump up military spending a notch.

[Molly]

Bin Laden, possibly dead.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/01/usama-bin-laden-dead-say-sources/

yeah it's amazing how he managed to get dialysis three times a week in those caves for ten years. :mblush:

This is the real story that is not being reported:

130 thousand plus acres of farmland being destroyed by the blowing of levee's yesterday.  This has been the subject of a fierce court battle as the state of Missouri sought to save its farmers from destruction by the army corps of engineers.  Of course, cnn and fox had nothing to say about this last night.  We don't need no farmland.  Let them eat cake!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/03/us-weather-flooding-decision-idUSTRE7420L620110503


"So bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "this'll be the day that I die.
"this'll be the day that I die."

[Molly]

Once again he glanced at his rival in the opposite cubicle. Something seemed to tell him with certainty that Tillotson was busy on the same job as himself. There was no way of knowing whose job would finally be adopted, but he felt a profound conviction that it would be his own. Comrade Ogilvy, unimagined an hour ago, was now a fact. It struck him as curious that you could create dead men but not living ones. Comrade Ogilvy, who had never existed in the present, now existed in the past, and when once the act of forgery was forgotten, he would exist just as authentically, and upon the same evidence, as Charlemagne or Julius Caesar.
--Geo Orwell, 1984

http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/3.html

[WhiteWings]

Or perhaps just part of his election campaign.
a] Bin Laden caught.
b] Abu Ghraib where not innocent because they gave info that led to Bin's capture.
c] The same prisoners warned of a nuclear hell. Good reason to bump up military spending a notch.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/05/03/uk-britain-sellafield-idUKTRE74226O20110503
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13268834

[WhiteWings]

yeah it's amazing how he managed to get dialysis three times a week in those caves for ten years. :mblush:

http://theintelhub.com/2010/12/24/osama-bin-dead-awhile/

If he really died a few days ago, it was exactly 66 year after Hitler.

[micah7:9]

Oh my :sigh:

[Molly]

yeah it's amazing how he managed to get dialysis three times a week in those caves for ten years. :mblush:

http://theintelhub.com/2010/12/24/osama-bin-dead-awhile/

If he really died a few days ago, it was exactly 66 year after Hitler.

Osama Bin Laden Pronounced Dead...For the Ninth Time.
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-pronounced-deadfor.html

lol

[WhiteWings]

A cat has nine lives. Bin has run out of them.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/president-obama-had-authorized-bombing-of-compound-in-march-but-wanting-evidence-of-obls-death-cance.html

Sources tell ABC News that in March President Obama authorized the development of a plan for the U.S. to bomb Osama bin Laden's Abbottabad compound with two B2 stealth bombers dropping a few dozen 2,000-pound JDAMs (Joint Direct Attack Munitions) on the compound.

But when the president heard the compound would be reduced to rubble he chose not to pursue that option.

That would mean there would be no evidence bin Laden was dead to present to the world – no DNA evidence, as the administration anticipates it will have.

And on an other occasion they ran DNA tests on the pilots of vaporized planes and found passports in mint condition :winkgrin:
Maybe they are lucky again....

[thinktank]

At least the campaign shows that a well executed and clean operation can be deployed without resorting to destructive bombing, which can kill innocent bystanders.

[Cardinal]

 :sigh: And they wasted billions and countless lives trying to find him for years, when I've said from the beginning he has to have at least one bitter ex-wife around who didn't go into hiding and would gladly hunt him down for free  :winkgrin:

[Molly]

As we enter the third century of the suppression of science, voices continue to be silenced... :sigh:



Heresy in Israel! Chief education scientist dismissed for denying evolution and global warming
by Shaun Doyle



Dr Gavriel Avital, former chief scientist for the Israeli education ministry, is the latest of a long series of high-profile scientists 'Expelled' for voicing skepticism at evolution.

Published: 19 October 2010(GMT+10)
Heresy. Is that the right word to use here? It seems so harsh! But that is precisely how skepticism of evolution1 and anthropogenic global warming2 are treated in modern academic, political, and social discourse. Creationists can't really expect a fair hearing in the public square any more. Any who hint that even ID should be given a hearing, even if they make plain their allegiance to the orthodox Darwinist dogma, are berated, ostracized, and even dismissed from their employ. Dr Gavriel Avital is merely the latest of a long series of high-profile scientists who have voiced skepticism at these sacred cows of modern academia and has paid the ultimate professional price—termination.

Avital's case
Education Minister Gideon Sa'ar has dismissed the chief scientist of his ministry, Dr Gavriel Avital, over his statements denying the "fundamental tenets of science"—evolution and anthropogenic global warming.3 The news reports are quite straightforward; there is no other cited reason for his dismissal.3

Avital has been an outspoken critic of evolution and anthropogenic global warming during his time as chief scientist, and has attracted the disapproval of numerous scientists in Israel for it. In February 2010 two Israeli Nobel Prize laureates issued an open letter to Gideon Sa'ar saying,

"We don't see any alternative other than to replace Dr. Gavriel Avital with an individual suited to fill the position, one who could do so faithfully and professionally."4
Lest any think it was because of poor performance that these scientists wanted him sacked, the letter went on to state:


"We view Dr. Avital's remarks gravely because they undermine the standing and importance of science and take us centuries backward, even as the world celebrates the importance of Charles Darwin's discoveries and the great contributions he made to human knowledge and scientific development, and is striving to uproot benighted doctrines such as intelligent design."4

I find remarks such as this perplexing. I wonder what the creationists Newton, Kepler, Pasteur, Lister, Maxwell, Joule, Kelvin, Steno, Faraday, etc. would think of such comments. All but three were contemporaries of Darwin, and a number were very public in their criticisms of his work.

His personal doubts about evolution are well known, but what exactly did Avital propose as the educational solution? He said:

"If textbooks state explicitly that human beings' origins are to be found with monkeys, I would want students to pursue and grapple with other opinions."3
He's not talking about not allowing evolution to be taught—he assumes children will be taught evolution because it's in the textbooks. Rather he simply wants to give children the right to hear other views. Avital is not the one suppressing alternate views—evolutionists are.

Evolutionists' tactics to silence their opponents
Evolutionists are in the habit of bullying and forcibly silencing their critics. Confessed evolutionists Michael Reiss and Richard Sternberg were dismissed from their posts because they hinted that people should be able to think for themselves about creation/evolution. Creationists and ID proponents have suffered similar fates, whether students, teachers, or academics (See Discrimination against creation scientists).

Whenever creationists try to discuss the evidence, typical evolutionist responses are: "all true scientists believe in evolution", "creationists are liars", or "creationists don't publish articles in the peer-reviewed literature". Such 'arguments' are just more smokescreens evolutionists use to avoid dealing with the actual arguments.

"All true scientists believe in evolution" presumes a self-serving and inaccurate definition of "scientist". Though a minority, there are many practising scientists (with Ph.Ds. and active in scientific research) both past and present who don't believe in evolution. It also presumes that majority vote decides truth. As evolutionists are so fond of pointing out, Copernicus and Galileo were almost lone soldiers fighting the tide of geocentrism. And yet we know today that the majority were wrong, and Galileo and Copernicus were right.5 But this is a double-edged sword—evolution cannot be proclaimed right just because it has the majority vote in academia.

For a similar reason, the appeal to "peer-reviewed literature" holds no water either. Evolutionists are the "peers" who review and edit such journals. How can IDers and creationists expect to get a fair hearing when evolutionists won't let them speak?6

Creationists are often branded "liars", or are treated as committing some 'sin' against 'science' by their very existence. However, this idea of 'science' is more like scientism, which states that science is the only way of knowing. However, that very premise can't be proved scientifically, so it's a self-defeating statement and thus false. Neither is evolution a scientific question, it's a historical question, just like creation. It needs experimental science to make its historical reconstructions plausible,7 but the reconstruction itself is interpretation based squarely on some form of naturalism—God either doesn't exist, can't act in history, or refuses to. Evolutionists play fast and loose with the term "science" (whether knowingly or not) because the public views "science" as reliable. Science is a very useful way of investigating the world, but evolution is not science.

These charges have been answered time and again, and yet evolutionists generally respond merely by putting up the same smokescreens (they are not legitimate arguments), or by actively seeking to discredit and silence the dissenters. There are no attempts at rebuttals, because to do so they'd have to acknowledge there are arguments to rebut.

Why such language and tactics?
They assert that the truth of evolution is so obvious that it's impossible to honestly disagree with it if someone understands it.

Such emotive and religious sentiments are communicated not just because evolution is assumed to be true. It's more than that. Secularism's fundamental tenet is not a denial of the existence of a god/s per se, but that said god/s never interfere in the real, physical world.8 This is assumed to be intuitively obvious—i.e. it's impossible to reasonably disagree with. This principle is applied to evolution, so they then assert that the truth of evolution is so obvious that it's impossible to honestly disagree with it if someone understands it. Dawkins says it most bluntly:

"It is absolutely safe to say that if you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant, stupid or insane (or wicked, but I'd rather not consider that)."9
Such a worldview ignores both philosophy10 and the history of science.11 But secularism must sustain such a view in order to survive, and creationism and ID call that very foundation into question. Therefore, we became the heretics—the pariahs of a secular regime that will do anything to keep any god (especially the Christian God which it rebelled against) from interfering in history. But since we know that the God who intervened in history, the God of the Bible, is also its sovereign, secularism cannot win.

http://creation.com/heresy-in-israel-gavriel-avital