Welcome to 1984

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Because President Johnson did away with one aspect of it, and Ronald Reagan took care of the rest of it.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Received this in an email..... :dontknow:


Here's a "conspiracy theory" for you!

      BP, Illusion of a False Spill What are the benefits of this scam? MONEY, and population control. Interesting point of view. You be the judge.

Now we know why there was no reaction from Obama, EPA , and a red flushed neck on the Admiral of the Coast Guard, and why no fly zone, no media! And I wonder how a TAR BALL could have formed so soon! And the permission Obama gave a few weeks before the BP oil spill for them to drill in the Gulf...must have been for a President's order to drill into the Volcano!!

The 'disaster' in the Gulf of Mexico is beyond a false flag; it's an illusion. What I'm about to reveal will more than likely go by the wayside, and the charade will continue. The reason for writing this is not for attention, games, or folly, but to expose the biggest scam in the 21st century, and to relieve some aching hearts. There is no need for fear as this is a staged event. I cannot reveal my sources, they do go straight to the top, but hopefully what I write will echo inside of each person reading this as the truth.

Much of the information I present here cannot be easily verified, fast checked, or ever presented as anything, but hearsay, as they are just words of an anonymous online entity. The Government, corporations, and the people behind them have pulled out all the stops to insure the truth doesn't come out. They are the reason why the beaches have private security contractors, insuring no one is able to gain access to the oil on shore. They are the reason the Gulf of Mexico is a no fly zone. They are the reason why the gulf states are being locked down by military. They are the reason why the well head you see is different in many videos that BP releases. Without this measure of control the illusion would fail. In this post, what I can do is provide leading evidence, or give clues to the truth; from there you can use something that has gone by the way side, common sense.

The large oil spills washing up on the shores are not from BP Deep Horizon. They are indeed from surrounding wells, that were already leaking by design. These wells can be verified through a simple online search. You'll notice that much of the oil is actually in the form of tar. Usually tar balls; sizes of these have reached 2000+ pounds.

From the start, BP, Haliburton, and co-conspirators knew where they were drilling. Using specific equipment, such as the German ship RV Sonne, they had detailed maps of the ocean bottom. The ship, and a specific college study from 2005, in the Gulf of Mexico, are your starting points to what's really happening in the gulf. Here's a link to what the study synopses http://geology. about.com/ cs/volcanology/ a/aa051604a. htm

What BP, Haliburton, and other co-conspirators intentionally drilled into was an Asphalt Volcano. Sounds scary doesn't it? It really is not. In fact, after you read the above link you'll know that the Gulf of Mexico is literally coated in oil, tar, and methane hydrate at the bottom. The study went on to find that massive aquatic life has specifically adapted to living off of the hydrocarbons. That in fact these asphalt volcanoes are a natural part of the ocean ecology, and their eruptions actually benefit the sea life over the long duration of time.


Another aspect to what I was directly told is that BP, Haliburton, and other co-conspirators drilled intentionally into the 'mid side' of this particular asphalt volcano. Basically from what I understand, it is a soda bottle effect. If they had drilled into the top of the volcano, then all the gas would rise out, and explode as would bottled carbonated liquid. The effect of drilling into the side permits a safely controlled release of gas, tar, liquified asphalt, and other related gases. What was done is a more or less controlled release; almost natural in fact!

The Asphalt volcano was a win win situation for this false flag: as it presented the best illusion to all outside parties. Not only do the conspirators need to fool the general public, but also the oil industry, and scientific community. The public is easy to fool, but the latter two groups take a little more effort; this is the main reason why the Gulf is being isolated by security contractors, and military. Anyone well versed on this giant debacle in the Gulf knows that it is surrounded with stories, and claims of negligence. This was the first purposeful aspect to make the story seem credible to all outside parties; as the story is more easily believed, when it is chalked up to human error, or incompetence.

Besides using inferior, shotty, or flat out negligent craftsmanship, as the well was intended to fail from the onset, the conspirators knew that the pressure produced from the volcano would blow out even better equipment. This was the second mechanism to fool other industry experts. All experts, and scientific communities only know what they are told, and that is the well tapped into a large high pressure hydrocarbon pocket. To even a trained eye, what they are being told appears to be a massive oil gusher, when in fact it's a controlled event.

In watching the videos, or live feeds looks horrible, and very ominous, but upon closer examination the tell tale signs of what it really is shows through, what you are actually viewing is a man made(well bore) large "Black Smoker". You should take note, as the evidence has built, the live feed appears to have been tampered with. I suspect it is because of the video below. The man narrating the video has it correct, it is a volcano! But those aren't flames. From the link provided above, they are a combination of gases; specifically Sulfur, and Iron are what create the flame effect. Since the airing of that video, several of the live feeds have been proven to be tampered footage, or faked.

You need to realize that an illusion is only as good as it's weakest link. All scientific evidence on paper coming from the government, and corporations is being fudged. In the case of this staged, and controlled event that weak link is the oil, or more specifically the tangible tar that can be collected. As I mentioned much of the oil that has been seen, or noticed is tar rather than heavy crude oil. Out at sea closest to the Deep Horizon site, "shrimpers" have been hired to boom the oil/tar together, and set it ablaze.

There are several huge fires right now out in the Gulf. The reason is for this is to hide the evidence. The distinct asphalt volcano tar, is actually coated with naturally produced oil eating microbes, and other natural safe guards produced by Mother Earth; these types of organisms are not present in a regular oil well, but commonly in the Asphalt Volcanoes, and large tar flows at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

To continue with why the asphalt volcano was a win win to drill into, is the heaviness of the tar. Read the linked article provided above, the tar will cling to lighter oil, and fall to the bottom of the Gulf at some point, near in the future. Also, the microbes, and other organisms that naturally occur from this will multiply. They will not only eat the tar, but the other control released oil that they are pumping into the Gulf.

We've all seen the videos of beaches not lined so much with oil, but with tar balls of varying sizes. Also, we've all noticed BP's overall lack of concern for cleanup. We've seen booms which aren't tied together. We've heard first hand account of staged clean ups on the beaches. As soon as a press conference, or media event is done BP stops work. The reason is simple, it's not that they don't care, but that they already know what's gonna happen. The oil will start naturally being cleaned up via decomposition, oil eating organisms, and falling to the already naturally tar covered bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

What's the benefit of this scam? MONEY, and population control. Read this article http://theintelhub. com/2010/ 06/18/gulf- spill-disaster- or-a-well- organized- plan/ 

If you're still reading this article, and even beginning to grasp the sinister nature of the fraud being perpetrated, then you'll realize that the corexit9500, and other dispersant's are not needed. They are purposely being sprayed by Evergreen Air/CIA to cull the population along the Gulf Coast.

Also, explained to me, is the large amount of "useless eaters, pond scum, or undesirables" living along the gulf coast. These would be the Americans living off of the government. I will not beat around the bush with pleasantries, or politically correct statements here. This coastal area from Texas to Florida has the highest, or most dense population of targets of illimination by the US Govt., and corporations. These are the populations living on welfare, and the older population living on Social Security (mainly Florida). These people are going to start dropping like flies over the next few years, and greatly reduce the burden to government coffers.

In this respect this is a doomsday event, but it's not the end of the food chain, death of the oceans, or as some have warned an extinction level event. It's only bad for the targeted populations.

To cover the money aspects of this fraudulent event, are somewhat self evident. Primarily, as President Obama (note he's not very worried, think about it) has just pointed out, they are using this false flag to move forward with the Carbon Tax, followed by Cap, and Trade.

Another aspect of profit is the clean up of this disaster; those boats aren't running around for free in the Gulf. From there, is the very real aspect of banks calling their notes on the remaining mortgaged properties along the Gulf, and peninsula of Florida. Remember Katrina? They never gave the land back, but sold it to casinos, and other businesses. Almost all beach front property will end up in the hands of the banks, and government. They'll play this disaster off for a few years, and explain the mysterious disappearance of oil on kindness from mother nature.

The side effects of this scam are negligible; in the eyes of the perpetrators, they've done nature a favor. They've opened up an asphalt volcano from the side, and will shut it down in the next few months by equalizing the pressure. The equalization of pressure will come by way of the two relief wells; which are not wells, but vents. when they do this, I have no clue what excuse they'll use, but the current gusher will stop. I said stop, it will not slow down, but literally stop. Remember, all they have done is aided nature in something that is a very common, and naturally occurring event at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

Anyone who has family anywhere near where they are spraying these chemicals need to alert their family to leave; they are the target of this false flag. To anyone who finds credence, or a shred of truth in what I've written, please pass this on; as we all are the target on the grand scale. The target by way of the coming carbon tax, cap, and trade; and by the way, Edridge oil spill in Michigan is owned by BP from the Alberta Tar Sands, the dirtiest oil there is...Again, this is another UK /BP assault on Michigan from Our Canadian neighbor as we in Michigan, become, the Green Energy Capital..... .(MICH).

BP has not maintained their pipeline to and through the USA.
And Like my brother said, where are the shut-off valves along that pipeline.... don't they have any? And I said, put the two pipe ends together where they were broke, due to rust, and stop the oil leak!


This has to be done for some reason and my guess again it is to depopulate one of the largest populations in Michigan, Kalamazoo and Battle creek...and so we will accept the increase in taxes for Green Energy.

[WhiteWings]

The large oil spills washing up on the shores are not from BP Deep Horizon. They are indeed from surrounding wells, that were already leaking by design.

If that's true, I would expect oil on the water and all beaches for decades. Leaking by design means they are leaking for a long time.

[Molly]

Greetings, Citizens of Earth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OT5jQCaM8Y

[WhiteWings]

Greetings, Citizens of Earth

:welcome: visitor.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Now our tax dollars are going to build mosques.... :sigh:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/10/tax-dollars-to-build-mosques/

[WhiteWings]

I advise the Italian way.
Dunno the english name for it but the people from that Italian village organised a pig market on place where the mosque was planned.
End of plans.

The places of Baal are growing in numbers.
Next to the mosque a gay bar "specializing" in Islamic gays is planned. Gonna be fun  :laughing7:

[jabcat]

And, our tax dollars are sending the so-called Ground Zero mosque "cleric" on an international mission to show what a diverse culture we have in the U.S.  It will be his third tax-payed trip.  

I'm pretty sick of it....God move in a mighty way in this sick land.

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/08/10/ground-zero-mosque-imam-to-represent-u-s/

[WhiteWings]

And, our tax dollars are sending the so-called Ground Zero mosque "cleric" on an international mission to show what a diverse culture we have in the U.S.  It will be his third tax-payed trip.  

I'm pretty sick of it....God move in a mighty way in this sick land.

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/08/10/ground-zero-mosque-imam-to-represent-u-s/

It's not only this land but almost all western countries are competing to be the biggest dhimmi.
Until...civil war.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: You got a link for the Italian "way"? I think people are outraged enough to drop off some pigs at ground zero..... :laughing7:

[WhiteWings]

http://dorigo.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/fighting-islam-with-pigs/
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=4808968
http://onecountryvoice.wordpress.com/2006/12/13/craig-baker-pig-races-and-kiawhat-the-media-wont-say-art-3/

[WhiteWings]

Ground Zero Imam: 'I Don't Believe in Religious Dialogue'

Is Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf — founder of the hugely controversial Ground Zero mosque — lying to the American public and his fellow New Yorkers?

Pajamas Media has uncovered extraordinary contradictions between what he says in English and what he says in Arabic that raise serious questions about his true intentions in the construction of the mosque.

On May 25, 2010, Abdul Rauf wrote an article for the New York Daily News insisting:

My colleagues and I are the anti-terrorists. We are the people who want to embolden the vast majority of Muslims who hate terrorism to stand up to the radical rhetoric. Our purpose is to interweave America's Muslim population into the mainstream society. [emphasis added]


Oh, really?

Only two months before, on March 24, 2010, Abdul Rauf is quoted in an article in Arabic for the website Rights4All entitled "The Most Prominent Imam in New York: 'I Do Not Believe in Religious Dialogue.'"

Yes, you read that correctly and, yes, that is an accurate translation of Abdul Rauf. And Right4All is not an obscure blog, but the website of the media department of Cairo University, the leading educational institution of the Arabic-speaking world.

In the article, the imam said the following of the "religious dialogue" and "interweaving into the mainstream society" that he so solemnly seems to advocate in the Daily News and elsewhere:

This phrase is inaccurate. Religious dialogue as customarily understood is a set of events with discussions in large hotels that result in nothing. Religions do not dialogue and dialogue is not present in the attitudes of the followers, regardless of being Muslim or Christian. The image of Muslims in the West is complex which needs to be remedied.

But that was two months ago. More recently — in fact on May 26, one day after his Daily News column –  Abdul Rauf appeared on the popular Islamic website Hadiyul-Islam with even more disturbing opinions. That's the same website where, ironically enough, a fatwa was simultaneously being issued forbidding a Muslim to sell land to a Christian, because the Christian wanted to build a church on it.

In his interview on Hadiyul-Islam by Sa'da Abdul Maksoud, Abdul Rauf was asked his views on Sharia (Islamic religious law) and the Islamic state. He responded:

Throughout my discussions with contemporary Muslim theologians, it is clear an Islamic state can be established in more than just a single form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Sharia that are required to govern. It is known that there are sets of standards that are accepted by [Muslim] scholars to organize the relationships between government and the governed. [emphasis added]


When questioned about this, Abdul Rauf continued: "Current governments are unjust and do not follow Islamic laws." He added:

New laws were permitted after the death of Muhammad, so long of course that these laws do not contradict the Quran or the Deeds of Muhammad ... so they create institutions that assure no conflicts with Sharia. [emphasis in translation]

In yet plainer English, forget the separation of church and state.  Abdul Rauf's goal is the imposition of Shariah law — in every country, even democratic ones like the U.S.

But these attitudes are nothing new for the (alas, few) people who have been paying attention.  Way back on September 30, 2001, Feisal Abdul Rauf was interviewed on 60 Minutes by host Ed Bradley.  Their verbatim  dialogue from this CBS News transcript concluded:

BRADLEY: Are — are — are you in any way suggesting that we in the United States deserved what happened?

Imam ABDUL RAUF: I wouldn't say that the United States deserved what happened, but the United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.

BRADLEY: OK. You say that we're an accessory?

Imam ABDUL RAUF: Yes.

BRADLEY: How?

Imam ABDUL RAUF: Because we have been an accessory to a lot of — of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, it — in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.

This is the "anti-terrorist" of the Daily News article?

The Feisal Abdul Rauf who spoke to 60 Minutes in 2001 is the same Abdul Rauf who, in the last couple of months, espoused the spread of Sharia law on Arabic websites and said the opposite in the pages of the Daily News.  He is the man New York City authorities are about to allow to build a mosque on Ground Zero.

Caveat emptor. Meanwhile, perhaps some enterprising reporter should ask Abdul Rauf his opinion of that fatwa forbidding Muslims from selling land to Christians who intend to build a church on it.

(Don't miss PJTV's coverage of the Ground Zero mosque story.)

[WhiteWings]

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"Mr Geithner, may I borrow your TurboTax"
"From little ACORNS mighty Marxists grow"
"Obama Pelosi Reid, the Axis of Taxes"
"Read my lipstick, No More Bailouts"
"Slavery begins with mandatory volunteering"
"Polititians you better listen to us"
"Freedom is not a privilege, it is a right"
Socialism: Tax dollars at work for those who do not.
Why pay texes when they can just print money?
I guess they do not teach "federal budget for dummies" at Harvard.

Treason.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Received another email with something I had not heard of......anybody heard anything about this?  :dontknow:

"I read recently that according to some observations, the present sun, moon and star weirdness is merely an optical phenomenon viewed by those at the extreme northern latitudes. An entirely optical phenomenon does not wash as an explanation, and I'll tell you why...

Many of us at the lower latitudes are noticing this as well. There is nearly a complete multimedia blackout of TRUE information. Also, those observations do not account for the moon playing rodeo all over the sky! Check the university data of where the moon should be this time of year. Now compare the data with where you observe the moon to be over the course of a short couple weeks. I live at 41deg. North and one can easily tell that the earth is wobbling pretty good. Also, the scientists are perplexed at the strange tides and increased quake activity the world over. Britain, according to satellite photos, and media stories, was covered completely this winter, and appeared for all the world to be but a smaller version of Antarctica. Optical anomalies? NO WAY. To a small degree, perhaps, but this is VERY real.

For those who believe that what we are witnessings is merely an optical phenomena....Please read the following links and see if you think your eyes are lying to you:


http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/v...ad.php?t=18430

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/spor...la-Divers.html

http://www.physorg.com/news90905241.html

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/...3121260280870/

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bre...ry/852054.html

http://www.gpb.org/news/2009/07/27/s...ng-freak-tides

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus...0907241023.htm

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...rrents-climate

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0110151325.htm

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8398

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...6908-21951250/


If one has read the above links, then the following Promises may hold more important meaning now:


There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." Luke 21:25-28"

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: This is an interesting link also......Emergency and Disaster Information Service.......it's an information service showing things things going on worldwide on a worldwide map, such as volcano eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, biohazards.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?smp

[WhiteWings]

All links with ... in it are cut off :-)

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9:  That's nice. I hadn't had a chance to look at them all, myself..... :sigh:

[Molly]

The author of this article now lives in South Dakota .

"After America , There is No Place to Go"

By: Kitty Werthmann


What I am about to tell you is something you've probably never heard or will ever read in history books. 
   
I believe that I am an eyewitness to history.  I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history.  We elected him by a landslide - 98% of the vote..  I've never read that in any American publications.  Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.


In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression.  Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed.  We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.
Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily.  Young people were going from house to house begging for food.  Not that they didn't want to work; there simply weren't any jobs.  My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need.  Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people - about 30 daily.


The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other.  Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna , Linz , and Graz were destroyed.  The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.


We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany , where Hitler had been in power since 1933.  We had been told that they didn't have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living.  Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise.  We were led to believe that everyone was happy..  We wanted the same way of life in Austria .. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family.  Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back.  Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.


We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades.  The new government opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed.


After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order.  Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed.  The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.
   
Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women.  Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home.  An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn't support his family.  Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.

 
Hitler Targets Education - Eliminates Religious Instruction for Children: 
Our education was nationalized.  I attended a very good public school.  The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler's picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn't pray or have religion anymore.  Instead, we sang "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," and had physical education


Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance.  Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum.  They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time.  The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.  The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination  The rest of the day we had sports.  As time went along, we loved it.  Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free.  We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.


My mother was very unhappy.  When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent.  I told her she couldn't do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful.  There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun - no sports, and no political indoctrination.  I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it.  Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home.  I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing.  Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me.  They lived without religion.  By that time unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler.  It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly.  As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn't exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

 
Equal Rights Hits Home: 
In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established.  All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps.  At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn't work, you didn't get a ration card, and if you didn't have a card, you starved to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn't have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.


Soon after this, the draft was implemented.  It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps.  During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys.  They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps.  After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.  When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat.  Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack.  I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service. 

 
Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:
When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers.  You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government..  The state raised a whole generation of children..  There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology.  By this time, no one talked about equal rights.  We knew we had been had.
 
Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls: 
Before Hitler, we had very good medical care.  Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna ..  After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone.  Doctors were salaried by the government.  The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full.  If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn.  There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine.  Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.
   
As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income.  Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household.  We had big programs for families.  All day care and education were free.  High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized.  Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.


We had another agency designed to monitor business.  My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables.  Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners.  Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar.  He couldn't meet all the demands.  Soon, he went out of business.  If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.


We had consumer protection.  We were told how to shop and what to buy.  Free enterprise was essentially abolished.  We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers.  The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it. 

 
"Mercy Killing" Redefined: 
In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps .  The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated.  So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded.  When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work.  I knew one, named Vincent, very well.  He was a janitor of the school.  One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van.  I asked my superior where they were going.  She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write.  The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months.  They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness. 


As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death.  The villagers were not fooled.  We suspected what was happening.  Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months.  We called this euthanasia.

 
The Final Steps - Gun Laws:
Next came gun registration..  People were getting injured by guns.  Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns.  Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms.  Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns.  The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily. 


No more freedom of speech.  Anyone who said something against the government was taken away.  We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.


Totalitarianism didn't come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria ...  Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath.  Instead, we had creeping gradualism.  Now, our only weapons were broom handles.  The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.


This is an eye witness account.  It's true...those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.
America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World.
Don't Let Freedom Slip Away!


Kitty Werthmann - Life Under Hitler - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoAg6h4KQnM

[Cardinal]

 :sigh: I got some articles sent to me this week. One was about the camps they've built, the other was about how "emergency supplies" are being moved all over the country for use in the "event" of martial law being declared. Combine this with the agreement that Canada's troops can come over the border if martial law is enacted, and I personally think it's pretty obvious they are planning SOMETHING. Not to mention Goldman-Sachs has effectively looted the country already. Sure looks like the rats are getting ready to leave the sinking ship. God help us......

[lomarah]

:sigh: I got some articles sent to me this week. One was about the camps they've built, the other was about how "emergency supplies" are being moved all over the country for use in the "event" of martial law being declared. Combine this with the agreement that Canada's troops can come over the border if martial law is enacted, and I personally think it's pretty obvious they are planning SOMETHING. Not to mention Goldman-Sachs has effectively looted the country already. Sure looks like the rats are getting ready to leave the sinking ship. God help us......

Can you explain this more? What kind of camps do you  mean and what do you think "they" are planning, and by "they" do you mean the American government? Sorry, I might be a bit slow but I have no idea what's going on lol.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Molly is more knowledgeable about all of it, as is WW, maybe some others.......to sum it up, our government has been building "interrment camps" in our country for a "national emergency"......say like the collapse of the financial system, ect......

[WhiteWings]

Google for FEMA camps. http://freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm
Or FEMA coffins. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zSDdm-SHI
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=fema+camps+alex+jones&meta=
And many articles supporting the above.

And as usual many debunking articles like this one:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090114181653AAQa1gJ

[lomarah]

Freaky. So do you think the government is planning something or do you think they are just expecting a national crisis to happen?

[Molly]

It's been going on for a long time--I would take it back to 1913, but even before that inroads had been made.

You have to understand that when a sitting president was assassinated in broad daylight in front of tv cameras--and the perpetrators got away with it--they were home free.  It's been just a matter of time since then.  I do believe Kennedy was our last real president.

A lot of things go on behind the scenes that people will never be aware of--there are a lot of brave and loyal people in this country--unsung heros.

And, the american people, clueless as they often seem to be, are made of different stuff than other countries, and can be pushed too far, as we are seeing now.  The ones that left their countries of origin for freedom and liberty are able to take action on the basis of an idea--I feel that this Spirit and ideal is in their genes.

The evil ones have their plans and Jesus has his.  So, we'll see.

[thinktank]

Are these places for refuges, in case of earthquakes, asteroid collisions perhaps?

Maybe their intention is not as sinister as conspiracy theorists make out.

the film deep impact showed that the goverment has a large holding facility for 1 milliion survivors.

Perhaps they don't want to make the news public to avoid mass panic and fear of asteroid collision, being a potential reality.