Natural and Spiritual

[rosered]

Heres where I was looking regarding the white

lev 13:13 Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh, he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is cleaN

john 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

I can only type so much here but he did say the harvest white, sure though there is Christ the firstfuits and Paul speaks of having a harvest among them as well though right?

 GOOD JOB KIMMY  your right sis , it makes them clean !!! wowza   ripe for harvest . SPOKEN BY THE SON !! Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash [his] feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.


Jhn 13:11 For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean.


Jhn 13:12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?


Jhn 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am.


Jhn 13:14 If I then, [your] Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
Jhn 13:15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
the feet  has to do with teaching  !  we are to wash one anothers'' feet''
  this may be why ???? it  shall bruise  your heel but satans head ?
1) a foot, both of men or beast

a) often in the orient, one put his foot on vanquished

b) of disciples listening to their teacher's instruction are said to be at his feet


Jhn 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.


Jhn 13:17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.

[Chris]

Tony writes

Jesus didn't want the removal of the darnel to take place UNTIL both the darnel and the wheat was ready. That's the point. The point is not the how of removing but WHEN is the proper time to remove both. It is when both are ripe for harvest. And that time is at the end of the eon and not afterword.

Mat 13:39 the harvest IS **the end of** the world; and THE REAPERS ARE THE ANGELS.

But then he says this...

John 4:25 SAY NOT ye, There are YET four months, and THEN cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.

I mean he did say "the REAPERS are the Angels" right? But then He also said "I send YOU TO REAP"

John 4:38 I sent **YOU** TO REAP that whereon ye bestowed NO LABOUR: ***other men laboured***, and ye are entered **into** their labours.

Which appears to connect to this same thought

Neh 4:21 So we laboured **in the work** and half of them ***held the spears*** from ***THE RISING OF*** the morning **TILL** THE STARS APPEARED.

The ANGELS, or the STARS APPEARING in THE WORK (or labour) they ENTER INTO that which THEY HAVE BESTOWED NO LABOUR = OTHER MEN laboured

2Cr 10:16 To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in ***ANOTHER man's line of things*** **MADE READY** TO **OUR HAND**

Which is sorta kool because Paul said "Ye received me as an ANGEL, as Christ himself" and in Revelation it speaks of an Angel having the everlasting gospel and how Paul was not taught the gospel he preached but received it of a revelation of Jesus Christ, and also how he said, if any man preaches another gospel then the one we preached let him be accursed.

But in regards to the Angels, its kool it shows elsewhere one holding a SICKLE (which are pruning hooks) TO REAP but not with spears (the others held). The spears were held TILL the Stars (I see as the angels) who appeared. The beating of" ones swords into pruning hooks is shown too.

Though I think its kinda neat how they actually laboured till the MORNING did RISE and then (((the stars appeared))) cause (I personally) see stars much better at night  :grin:

Dear Fireinfolding,
The disciples of John 4 are not the angels/messengers of the parable of the tares and the wheat.

Mat 13:41 The Son of Mankind shall be dispatching His messengers, and they shall be culling out of His kingdom all the snares and those doing lawlessness,

The end of the world or eon did not happen in John 4:

So Christ did not appear once IN the end of the world?

So are you saying there is YET four months (or whatever amount of time there is) UNTIL the harvest?  :grin:

Nothing applies huh?  :grin: Just your word bout it?  :grin:

No sweetheart, Jesus did not appear at the end of the world.
Here is the verse:

Heb 9:26 since then He must often be suffering from the disruption of the world, yet now, once, at the conclusion of the eons, for the repudiation of sin through His sacrifice, is He manifest."

Please note that "eons" is plural. When the eons end then sin will finally be repudiated due to His sacrifice. And it was for that reason He was manifest.

I think that the harvest Jesus spoke of in John 4 did come but the harvest of Matthew comes at the end of the eon, the end of this eon in which we life.

No sweetheart, it is not my word about it but THE Word has the final say.

He still came at the end of the "eons" (ages, or "world" as rendered in the KJV to which Fire was referring) did He not?

So if "the harvest" takes place at "the end of the world" (ages) and Christ came "at the end of the world" (ages) and He said (when He was here) that the field was "white already to harvest" and He said that in the time of harvest (which takes place "at the end of the world" or "ages", which time it was when He came) He would send forth His angels to reap and He said "I sent you to reap" (speaking to His disciples), how are they NOT "the angels" (the reapers) of whom Christ spoke? And how is the harvest of John 4 and the harvest of Mat 13 not the same harvest?

[Taffy]

And the LORD said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand:


Exd 4:5 That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee.


Exd 4:6 And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand [was] leprous as snow.


Exd 4:7 And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his [other] flesh.


Exd 4:8 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. 
  the VOICE  OF  the Latter Sign is Jesus Christ
Hbr 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Exd 4:9 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour [it] upon the dry [land]: and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry [land].

here we see  that in Revelation above  verse

 the Laws  plural of the old and new are always in effect , to me  the only conclusion can be God does and invividual   work in  people
 one by one  

  I  know the law and prophts spoke   by the Spirit of Christ they were servants
  the SON OF GOD  speaks now making all the difference .........

Really........yeah Really :thumbsup:

[Chris]

Theres Chris HIYA Chris!  :grin: What took ya so long?
Kidding  :grin:

I'm a slow reader.  :grin:

I also made a longer post but then decided to delete some of what I wrote.  :winkgrin:

[Taffy]

And Hi Grahm cracker! Your awake  :grin:

Yo sis was awake earlier..Lappy had a New Year Fit...so Im now on Traceys :icon_flower:

hows those elbows and Back


Hiya Chrissie.....bout Time girl.... :icon_flower:

[rosered]

Heres where I was looking regarding the white

lev 13:13 Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh, he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is cleaN

john 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

I can only type so much here but he did say the harvest white, sure though there is Christ the firstfuits and Paul speaks of having a harvest among them as well though right?

 GOOD JOB KIMMY  your right sis , it makes them clean !!! wowza   ripe for harvest . SPOKEN BY THE SON !! Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash [his] feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.


Jhn 13:11 For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean.


Jhn 13:12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?


Jhn 13:13 Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for [so] I am.


Jhn 13:14 If I then, [your] Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
Jhn 13:15 For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
the feet  has to do with teaching  !  we are to wash one anothers" feet"
  this may be why ???? it  shall bruise  your heel but satans head ?
1) a foot, both of men or beast

a) often in the orient, one put his foot on vanquished

b) of disciples listening to their teacher's instruction are said to be at his feet


Jhn 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.


Jhn 13:17 If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.

modified my post , just thinking our loud Kimmy ,  check your pm sis ! :HeartThrob:

[rosered]

  Chrissie , is it really Chrissie!!!!!!!    whooooooppppiiieee!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :HeartThrob: :cloud9:
  I am now in heaven my best buds are once again  here !!!!!!! :laughing7: :icon_flower:

[Chris]

And Hi Grahm cracker! Your awake  :grin:

Yo sis was awake earlier..Lappy had a New Year Fit...so Im now on Traceys :icon_flower:

hows those elbows and Back


Hiya Chrissie.....bout Time girl.... :icon_flower:

:happygrin: HiYa Graham! I've been floating around, just hasn't been a lot going on at any of the forums lately, it seems.

Stayed at MySpace for a while but left there a couple of weeks ago. So just been chillin.  :icon_flower:

[Molly]

The wheat bows it's head just before the harvest (the tares don't).

He's harvesting the Melchizadek priests.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

[Taffy]

And Hi Grahm cracker! Your awake  :grin:

Yo sis was awake earlier..Lappy had a New Year Fit...so Im now on Traceys :icon_flower:

hows those elbows and Back


Hiya Chrissie.....bout Time girl.... :icon_flower:

:happygrin: HiYa Graham! I've been floating around, just hasn't been a lot going on at any of the forums lately, it seems.

Stayed at MySpace for a while but left there a couple of weeks ago. So just been chillin.  :icon_flower:

we go where we are led sis...one door closes another opens.egh?

well nice to see ya Posting again and sharing with some Old friends, even if the season be a Short one :HeartThrob:

[Chris]

Hi Molly!

How does that factor into....

Mat 13:30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.


This is the first thing that began to bug me about the teaching that the elect are harvested first, in the first resurrection, pre-millennium.

[Chris]

True indeed, Graham.  :thumbsup:  :HeartThrob:

HiYa Rosey!!  :HeartThrob:  :bgdance:

[bobf]

I have the same problem as Tony with that passage on wheat and tares.  I keep trying to see it the way others describe, but I keep running into problems with seeing it that way.  If the tares are our flesh, when did the evil one sow [give us] flesh? If the wheat is our spirit, why was our spirit sown into flesh of tares?  Sorry,it just doesn't make sense to me.

Ok, let me explain it another way that might alleviate that contradiction.  The seed of the adversary is not our physical flesh.

We know that Jesus does not directly sow (put) little good-godly people (wheat seed) into the physical world and Satan does not put little evil-wicked people (tare seed) into the physical world.  That's basically the serpent-seed doctrine.

Rather:
Jesus sows His Seed which are His Words of Truth into the minds & hearts of people.
Satan sows his seed which are his lies & deception into the minds & hearts of people.

Each seed when "listened to" forms a spirit or nature within us.
Each spirit is the offspring or child produced by each seed.
They are opposing spirits.

Both seeds are allowed to grow and mature.  
God does not just "kick out" are person's carnal, lustful, selfish nature the minute it forms.

At the "end of the aion" (whenever that is) the spirit of the wicked one is removed & destroyed.

• Zepheniah 3:8 Therefore wait upon me, saith the Lord, until the day when I rise up for a witness: because my judgment shall be on the gatherings of the nations, to draw to me kings, to pour out upon them all my fierce anger: for the whole earth shall be consumed with the fire of my jealousy. 9 For then will I turn to the peoples a tongue for her generation, that all may call on the name of the Lord, to serve him under one yoke. 10 From the boundaries of the rivers of Ethiopia will I receive my dispersed ones; they shall offer sacrifices to me. 11 In that day thou shalt not be ashamed of all thy practices, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then will I take away from thee thy disdainful pride, and thou shalt no more magnify thyself upon my holy mountain. 12 And I will leave in thee a meek and lowly people; 13 and the remnant of Israel shall fear the name of the Lord, and shall do no iniquity, neither shall they speak vanity; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth.

Seed of Satan PRODUCES thy disdainful pride, magnify thyself, a deceitful tongue, speaks vanity, does iniquity
Seed of Christ PRODUCES a meek and lowly people, a pure tongue, the remnant of Israel, does not iniquity, speaks no vanity

• Romans 9:29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.

At the same time, any person who is obeying either the Spirit of Christ or obeying the spirit of the adversary IS that person and can be called a Child of God or a child of Satan, a wheat or a tare.

[rosered]

Hey Rosie! Im sorry sis things going too fast for me and I so like to take my time and answer each post, that was a great post. Amen! He washes us in various ways dont He? It shows they are clean in this manner as well (thought this was kool too)

John 9:6 When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay,

John 9:7 And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.

Lev 15:8 And if he that hath the issue spit upon him that is clean  :grin: then he shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.

Not sure it fits but I thought, how interesting? An issue of spit?  :grin:

oh yes , Sis seeing something new ! and loving it !!


  Hi ya sista Chris  Chrissie  hee hee   :girlheart:   happy to see you   leaping today !

[Molly]

that is the whole point Molly Jesus come to the lost sheep of Israel  his  appearance ,   ah but the CROSS OF CHRIST IS THE TRUE SIGN OF THE NEW COVENANT     Jesus come  but  come to heal the sick lame  , maimed etc blind ..

Yes, because that is what a Priest does!  He heals sick people.



11When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and 'sinners'?"

12On hearing this, Jesus said, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

--Mat 9

[Chris]

I have the same problem as Tony with that passage on wheat and tares.  I keep trying to see it the way others describe, but I keep running into problems with seeing it that way.  If the tares are our flesh, when did the evil one sow [give us] flesh? If the wheat is our spirit, why was our spirit sown into flesh of tares?  Sorry,it just doesn't make sense to me.

Ok, let me explain it another way that might alleviate that contradiction.  The seed of the adversary is not our physical flesh.

We know that Jesus does not directly sow (put) little good-godly people (wheat seed) into the physical world and Satan does not put little evil-wicked people (tare seed) into the physical world.  That's basically the serpent-seed doctrine.

Rather:
Jesus sows His Seed which are His Words of Truth into the minds & hearts of people.
Satan sows his seed which are his lies & deception into the minds & hearts of people.

Each seed when "listened to" forms a spirit or nature within us.
Each spirit is the offspring or children produced by each seed.
They are opposing spirits.

Both seeds are allowed to grow and mature.  
God does not just "kick out" are person's carnal, lustful, selfish nature the minute it forms.

At the "end of the aion" (whenever that is) the spirit of the wicked one is removed & destroyed.

• Zepheniah 3:8 Therefore wait upon me, saith the Lord, until the day when I rise up for a witness: because my judgment shall be on the gatherings of the nations, to draw to me kings, to pour out upon them all my fierce anger: for the whole earth shall be consumed with the fire of my jealousy. 9 For then will I turn to the peoples a tongue for her generation, that all may call on the name of the Lord, to serve him under one yoke. 10 From the boundaries of the rivers of Ethiopia will I receive my dispersed ones; they shall offer sacrifices to me. 11 In that day thou shalt not be ashamed of all thy practices, wherein thou hast transgressed against me: for then will I take away from thee thy disdainful pride, and thou shalt no more magnify thyself upon my holy mountain. 12 And I will leave in thee a meek and lowly people; 13 and the remnant of Israel shall fear the name of the Lord, and shall do no iniquity, neither shall they speak vanity; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth.

Seed of Satan PRODUCES thy disdainful pride, magnify thyself, a deceitful tongue, speaks vanity, does iniquity
Seed of Christ PRODUCES a meek and lowly people, a pure tongue, the remnant of Israel, does not iniquity, speaks no vanity

• Romans 9:29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.

At the same time, any person who is obeying either the Spirit of Christ or obeying the spirit of the adversary IS that person and can be called a Child of God or a child of Satan, a wheat or a tare.

Excellent explanation!! :thumbsup:

[bobf]

Or you could say that Paul is an example of why you can't harvest the wheat and the tares until they mature, otherwise you might pull out a future Paul--because you can't tell them apart until they mature.

I was sticking to Tony's interpretation in which a tare is a child of Satan which is anyone doing the works of Satan, so that would be Paul.  Jesus also identified tares that way.  Jesus said (paraphrasing) IF you were a child of Abraham you would DO the works of Abraham.  But you seek to kill me, so you are a child of the devil.  Hence, Paul was a child of the devil and a tare.

[Chris]

Or you could say that Paul is an example of why you can't harvest the wheat and the tares until they mature, otherwise you might pull out a future Paul--because you can't tell them apart until they mature.

I was sticking to Tony's interpretation in which a tare is a child of Satan which is anyone doing the works of Satan, so that would be Paul.  Jesus also identified tares that way.  Jesus said (paraphrasing) IF you were a child of Abraham you would DO the works of Abraham.  But you seek to kill me, so you are a child of the devil.  Hence, Paul was a child of the devil and a tare.

Do you mean Saul?  :bigGrin:

[Molly]

Hi Molly!

How does that factor into....

Mat 13:30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.


This is the first thing that began to bug me about the teaching that the elect are harvested first, in the first resurrection, pre-millennium.

Tares:  imposters masquerading as priests?

But Jesus tells us they were really vipers and hypocrites.

70 ad the tares are gathered and burned, and the righteous shall shine forth in the kingdom.



7But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

8Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

9And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

10And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

--Mat 3

[Zeek]

Hi Molly!

How does that factor into....

Mat 13:30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.


This is the first thing that began to bug me about the teaching that the elect are harvested first, in the first resurrection, pre-millennium.

Hi Chrissie,

that verse, re: FIRST  intrigues me too.  

[Zeek]

Hi Molly!

How does that factor into....

Mat 13:30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.


This is the first thing that began to bug me about the teaching that the elect are harvested first, in the first resurrection, pre-millennium.

Tares:  imposters masquerading as priests?

But Jesus tells us they were really vipers and hypocrites.

70 ad the tares are gathered and burned, and the righteous shall shine forth in the kingdom.



7But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

8Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

9And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

10And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

--Mat 3

ah, i get it

[Molly]

Or you could say that Paul is an example of why you can't harvest the wheat and the tares until they mature, otherwise you might pull out a future Paul--because you can't tell them apart until they mature.

I was sticking to Tony's interpretation in which a tare is a child of Satan which is anyone doing the works of Satan, so that would be Paul.  Jesus also identified tares that way.  Jesus said (paraphrasing) IF you were a child of Abraham you would DO the works of Abraham.  But you seek to kill me, so you are a child of the devil.  Hence, Paul was a child of the devil and a tare.

You can't tell the wheat from the tares until maturity.

Paul at maturity was a wheat.

[bobf]

Do you mean Saul?  :bigGrin:

Yes, Saul, thx. ;)

[reFORMer]

The individual:

Laban La'ban (white).
1. Son of Bethuel, brother of Rebekah and father of Leah and Rachel. (b.c. about 1860-1740.) The elder branch of the family remained at Haran, Mesopotamia, when Abraham removed to the land of Canaan, and it is there that we first meet with Laban, as taking the leading part in the betrothal of his sister Rebekah to her cousin Isaac. Gene 24:10, 29-60; 27:43; 29:5 The next time Laban appears in the sacred narrative it is as the host of his nephew Jacob at Haran. Gene 29:13, 14 [JACOB] Jacob married Rachel and Leah, daughters of Laban, and remained with him 20 years, b.c. 1760-1740. But Laban's dishonest and overreaching practice toward his nephew shows from what source Jacob inherited his tendency to sharp dealing. Nothing is said of Laban after Jacob left him.
2. One of the landmarks named in the obscure and disputed passage Deut 1:1 The mention of Hezeroth has perhaps led to the only conjecture regarding Laban of which the writer is aware, namely, that it is identical with LIBNAH. Numb 33:20
—Smith's Bible Dictionary


The Corporate, (with the city #2 above) a Nation:

Lebanon
White, incense.
—Hitchcock's Dictionary of Bible Names

Lebanon Leb'anon, a mountain range in the north of Palestine. The name Lebanon signifies white, and was applied either on account of snow which, during a great part of the year, cover its whole summit, or on account of the white color of its limestone cliffs and peaks. It is the "white mountain"—the Mont Blane of Palestine. Lebanon is represented in Scripture as lying upon the northern border of the land of Israel. Deut 1:7; 11:24; Josh 1:4 Two distinct ranges bear this name. They run in parallel lines from southwest to northeast for about 90 geographical miles, enclosing between them a long, fertile valley from five to eight miles wide, anciently called Cœle-Syria. The western range is the "Libanus" of the old geographers and the Lebanon of Scripture. The eastern range was called "Anti-Libanus" by geographers, and "Lebanon toward the sunrising" by the sacred writers. Josh 13:5
1. Lebanon—the western range—commences on the south of the deep ravine of the Litany, the ancient river Leontes, which drains the valley of Cole-Syria, and falls into the Mediterranean five miles north of Tyre. It runs northeast in a straight line parallel to the coast, to the opening from the Mediterranean into the plain of Emesa, called in Scripture the "entrance of Hamath." Numb 34:8 Here Nehr el-Kebir—the ancient river Eleutherus—sweeps round its northern end, as the Leontes does round its southern. The average elevation of the range is from 6000 to 8000 feet; but two peaks rise considerably higher. On the summits of both these peaks the snow remains in patches during the whole summer. The line of cultivation runs along at the height of about 6000 feet; and below this the features of the western slopes are entirely different. The rugged limestone banks are scantily clothed with the evergreen oak, and the sandstone with pines; while every available spot is carefully cultivated. The cultivation is wonderful, and shows what all Syria might be if under a good government. Fig trees cling to the naked rock; vines are trained along narrow ledges; long ranges of mulberries, on terraces like steps of stairs, cover the more gentle declivities; and dense groves of olives fill up the bottoms of the glens. Hundreds of villages are seen—here built among labyrinths of rocks, there clinging like among labyrinths of rocks, there clinging like swallows' nests to the sides of cliffs; while convents, no less numerous, are perched on the top of every peak. The vine is still largely cultivated in every part of the mountain. Lebanon also abounds in olives, figs and mulberries; while some remnants exist of the forests of pine, oak and cedar which formerly covered it. 1 Kin 5:6; Ezra 3:7; Psal 29:5; Isai 14:8 Considerable numbers of wild beasts still inhabit its retired glens and higher peaks; the writer has seen jackals, hyænas, wolves, bears and panthers. 2 Kin 14:9; Song 4:8; Hab 2:17 Along the base of Lebanon runs the irregular plain of Phœnicia—nowhere more than two miles wide, and often interrupted by bold rocky spurs that dip into the sea. The main ridge of Lebanon is composed of Jura limestone, and abounds in fossils. Long belts of more recent sandstone run along the western slopes, which are in places largely impregnated with iron. Lebanon was originally inhabited by the Hivites and Giblites. Josh 13:5, 6; Judg 3:3 The whole mountain range was assigned to the Israelites, but was never conquered by them. Josh 13:2-6; Judg 3:1-3 During the Jewish monarchy it appears to have been subject of the Phœnicians. 1 Kin 5:2-6; Ezra 3:7 From the Greek conquest until modern times Lebanon had no separate history.
2. Anti-Libanus.—The main chain of Anti-Libanus commences in the plateau of Bashan, near the parallel of Cæsarea Philippi, runs north to Hermon, and then northeast in a straight line till it stinks down into the great plain of Emesa, not far from the site of Riblah. Hermon is the loftiest peak; the next highest is a few miles north of the site of Abila, beside the village of Bludan, and has an elevation of about 7000 feet. The rest of the ridge averages about 5000 feet; it is in general bleak and barren, with shelving gray declivities, gray cliffs and gray rounded summits. Here and there we meet with thin forests of dwarf oak and juniper. The western slopes descend abruptly into the Buka'a; but the features of the eastern are entirely different. Three side ridges here radiate from Hermon, like the ribs of an open fan, and form the supporting walls of three great terraces. Anti-Libanus is only once distinctly mentioned in Scripture, where it is accurately described as "Lebanon toward the sunrising." Josh 13:5
—Smith's Bible Dictionary

(Hermon is the Mt of Transfiguration)

[Chris]

Hi Molly!

How does that factor into....

Mat 13:30  Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.


This is the first thing that began to bug me about the teaching that the elect are harvested first, in the first resurrection, pre-millennium.

Tares:  imposters masquerading as priests?

But Jesus tells us they were really vipers and hypocrites.

70 ad the tares are gathered and burned, and the righteous shall shine forth in the kingdom.



7But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

8Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

9And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

10And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

--Mat 3

Molly,

Sorry, but I have no idea what you are asking me. I was simply pointing out that Christ said that in the time of harvest the tares would be harvested first. I was asking you how that factors into what you said about the priest being harvested now?