Pictures of Hope

[Beloved Servant]

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[sparrow]

Wow Sparrow, these are amazing photos.  I feel really blessed.

This passage springs to my mind...

"Aren't five sparrows sold for a couple of pennies? But not one of them is forgotten by God" (Luke 12:6) 

Please forgive the irony about the sparrow thing lol.

:HeartThrob:  :HeartThrob:  :HeartThrob:
I'm so glad it blessed you.  :icon_flower:
(and I love the verses about sparrows.  :winkgrin:)

[Beloved Servant]

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[sparrow]

Beloved,

You said earlier you have no hope in animals...

Just wondering. This is supposed to just be a lighthearted thread of the hope of a new earth, and the different species of animals being friends (that were once natural enemies, etc.)
I'm kind of confused as to the pics you're posting here?
I'm not sure I see the connection or what you are trying to say?

[Beloved Servant]

You asked me the same question once before — just scroll back!
The title of the thread never mentions light-hearted levity, just pictures of HOPE!

[Beloved Servant]

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[sparrow]

I know, you were talking about humility.
Just wondering.

The reason I ask is, I used to work in animal rescue and there were people who did not like us because they thought we shouldn't be wasting time helping animals, because there were human beings out there who needed help, too. Your many pics of Mother Theresa and the "no hope in animals" comment got me thinking maybe you have the same outlook. I was wondering if perhaps, these animal pictures were bothering you in some way.

I was just checking.
I like to know what folks are thinking.
Sometimes it hard to tell on a discussion board.

peace to ya..

[Beloved Servant]

I love animals!
Provided by the Father for many reasons; from food and clothing — to sacrifice and scapegoat!
I just see no picture of hope in an animal!

[sparrow]

I love animals! Provided by the Father for many reasons; from food and clothing — to sacrifice and scapegoat!
I just see no picture of hope in an animal!

The "Hope" in this thread regarding animals... is that:

"They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea."

That is what this thread is about.
Enjoying pictures of animals enjoying each OTHER with the thought of "harm or killing" finally removed. A picture of Hope. For one small part of God's creation... a picture of hope.
Peace in the animal kingdom.

In the new earth, death shall be no more.
The lion will lie down with the lamb.
God's creation is precious.

If you don't agree with that or don't like that picture... or see no hope in regards to animals...then sorry, but that's really what this thread is about.

[Beloved Servant]

OK, but you seem to understand the title of the thread not as I do.
If it is about animals; I missed it!

[sparrow]

OK, but you seem to understand the title of the thread not as I do.
If it is about animals; I missed it!

You definitely missed it!
The first post and all of the posts after spelled it out quite clearly in verses, pictures and commentary what the "hope" was about.

[Molly]

I love animals!
Provided by the Father for many reasons; from food and clothing — to sacrifice and scapegoat!
I just see no picture of hope in an animal!

That's because you haven't met goody-two-shoes.  This dog is an angel from God and gives hope to everyone he meets.  (and, I'm not just saying that because he's MY dog.  :happygrin:)

[Beloved Servant]

Yes, Sorrow, you are right.
I don't understand your context of hope.
Perhaps this thread will be more relevant of hope if I delete the pictures of Mother Theresa and the children.

[sparrow]

Yes, Sorrow, you are right.
I don't understand your context of hope.
Perhaps this thread will be more relevant of hope if I delete the pictures of Mother Theresa and the children.

Well, sorry you don't understand my context of hope.
Maybe one day you will.
peace to you.

[martincisneros]

Perhaps, it was the word HOPE that threw off the intent of this thread.
Pretty pictures, staged pictures, images that feed the soul do nothing to mature the Sons of God.

horribly wrong dude http://www.animalgospel.com  The son doesn't become the father in the faith until the whole Creation is embraced with the Blood of Christ beating in one's bosom for it.  This is one of the main reasons why absolute power has been in the hands of so few Christians. Jeremiah 31:27-28 and many other passages make animals, under the New Covenant, emphatically the seed of Abraham.

[Beloved Servant]

Understood. Nature proves God. Romans Chapter one.
But pretty pics intended to evoke carnal emotions are vain attempts at spirituality.

[martincisneros]

Understood. Nature proves God. Romans Chapter one. But pretty pics intended to evoke carnal emotions are vain attempts at spirituality.

It's not vain attempts at spirituality to write the vision and make it plain so that those who pray are able to run with it, once the revelation of the mustard seed kingdom reaching the point where the birds of the air can rest in it's branches is a living reality within one's heart and sets them free of all remaining hard images/thoughts of God that aren't addressed by the most liberal perspective of UR alone while speciesism predominates. The Scriptures are clear that this decade began the entrance of the animal kingdom into the liberties of the children of God. This very decade. Isaiah 30:23-26, and I'm thinking another proof text out of about three dozen that proves the timing of the Hosea 2:18 covenant is Mark 5:1-13, perhaps the 14th verse at the furthest with regards to the animals passing thru the water before mankind is totally delivered and in his right mind. 

There is no rightness of mind, or heart, or motive, or conscience in a Kingdom of Christ sense while speciesism predominates.  I'm needing to update the website I gave you a link to with probably about as much material as is already on it.  I've even got a bunch of stuff for the FAQ page that needs to be added, but anyway, Isaiah 11 makes it abundantly clear that this is previous to the millenium because you've got a full armor of God reference in the opening verses of that chapter, and there is no full armor being worn in a context where the devil's been bound for a thousand years.  And then you've got the explanation that's easily verified by about 20 other passages that the animals enter into the liberties of the children of God before the Israelites behold Him Whom they've pierced in the same way all of the rest of us have.  The sacrifice and oblation have ceased thru Jesus Christ and everlasting righteousness has been introduced. 

There is no animal sacrifice in the time period leading up to the millenium or on the New Earth.  When animals are brought to Jesus in Isaiah 40 in the same way that little children are brought to Jesus in the Gospels, they're just as safe as the little children.  It's not for the sake of cutting their throats.  Book of Isaiah even talks about those that kill an animal at this time that we've entered into the exact same as those that kill a man.  There is no difference, because again, according to Jeremiah 31:27-28 and many other passages the house of Israel and the house of Judah have been sown with the SEED of both man AND beast, so the animals are the children of Abraham per this New Covenant. Jeremiah 31, Hosea chapters 1-3, and numerous other passages make it abundantly clear that God's in the middle of doing in the behalf of the animals everything He did when it came to bringing Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs and wonders. 

To Him, this is no different, and not a good subject to be on the wrong side of Him on when it comes to His SMASHING animal oppression [and exploiters for pleasure, profit, convenience, religion, and entertainment] and drowning their Pharoah in the sea. Biggest move of God right now is in their behalf because He must fulfill thousands of years of promises to the animal kingdom before His dealings can return wholeheartedly to Israel -- and of course, without dropping what He's previously done with Gentiles, angels, and animals, but continuing as a tsunami into all of it until the whole earth is filled with His glory.

[WhiteWings]

Sparrow,

Another batch of "Bible animals"

http://www.workinggoats.com/index.php?id=238
http://books.trafford.com/03-1515
http://birdsofthebible.wordpress.com/
http://www.bible-history.com/isbe/B/BIRDS/
http://www.annieshomepage.com/bird.html  bird verses
http://www.instonebrewer.com/bpg2009/Pictures/Birds.htm
http://www.lovetolearnplace.com/Curriculum/Science/Bible&Birds.pdf
http://www.answers2prayer.org/bible_questions/Answers/animals/pets.html
http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=212


http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090910104048AAjrnZT
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/385244
http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Scientific_errors_in_the_bible



Revelation 5:13  And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

But now ask the beasts, and they will teach you; And the birds of the air, and they will tell you; Or speak to the earth, and it will teach you; And the fish of the sea will explain to you. Who among all these does not know That the hand of the LORD has done this, (Job 12:7-9 NKJV)

(http://www.workinggoats.com/Images/rats/sugarnuts%202004-12-02.jpg)

[sparrow]

Woo hoo! Those are some great links, WhiteWings!!
Thank you friend!!  :icon_flower:
I feel so blessed already, been reading through some of them.
very cool!

Those two verses of among my favorite verses.  :HeartThrob:

Y'know it is truly spectacular to think of all of the countless creatures...it's overwhelming.
Do people even realize just how vastly outnumbered humans are, here on this earth?
WE are the minority.  :laughing7:
The insects, animals, birds, lizards, fish... and on and on.
It's just absolutely astounding.
That He created all of this.
I think He delights in delighting us.
I look around and am so overwhelmed...and I know He delights in my hope of learning and discovering and exploring His beautiful creation which reflects HIM.
We can't even scratch the surface during our brief lives.
What wonders await us.
The study of Creation is the study of the Creator. :HeartThrob:
He is so wonderful.
Wow. The understatement of the century.

[ducktapehero]

pretty pics intended to evoke carnal emotions are vain attempts at spirituality.

I disagree. When I see these, or the Cross that I have on my wall I get flooded with emotions of hope. It is NOT the pictures that are the CAUSE of that hope, they're more like reminders for lack of a better word.

When I hear "How Great thou Art" I am almost overpowered by emotion. But it's NOT the song itself but what the song is speaking off. The pictures themselves have no power, no hope in them but they do show in a visual way the hope that is promised by God.

Did I make myself clear? I hope so because I just confused myself.  :mshock:

[firstborn888]

pretty pics intended to evoke carnal emotions are vain attempts at spirituality.

I disagree. When I see these, or the Cross that I have on my wall I get flooded with emotions of hope. It is NOT the pictures that are the CAUSE of that hope, they're more like reminders for lack of a better word.

When I hear "How Great thou Art" I am almost overpowered by emotion. But it's NOT the song itself but what the song is speaking off. The pictures themselves have no power, no hope in them but they do show in a visual way the hope that is promised by God.

Did I make myself clear? I hope so because I just confused myself.  :mshock:

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[Gab]

Was wondering if anyone had seen this, as it seems relevant to the topic of animals, and is really beautiful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDuBBN-VrLs

I've never understood why it's considered an insult for a human to be called a dog.  They've always struck me as naturally exuding a love that most humans could not even understand, let alone possess.

[DeAndra]

All these pictures are soooo cute and overwhelming I love animals!!!!

[WhiteWings]

All these pictures are soooo cute and overwhelming I love animals!!!!

I think spaarow also likes animals. But I'm not very sure. Sparrow?  :laughing7:

[sparrow]

All these pictures are soooo cute and overwhelming I love animals!!!!

I think spaarow also likes animals. But I'm not very sure. Sparrow?  :laughing7:

mmm.... nahhhh.  :mnah:

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