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Mickiel

Faith is God believing your prayer , but it is also you believing your prayer. You should know your prayer ,some start praying and forget what they were going to say. Believe in your prayers. Belief is a state of habit of mind  in which trust or confidence is placed in God. Some common synonyms of faith is belief. We have to believe God forgives serial killers. Our belief has to be dragged trough credence and credit , remembering that

When we pray to God we are asking his assent to the truth of something offered for acception.faith almost always implies certitude , even where there is no evidence or proof . That's partly what belief means , a person who has faith in something.

Mickiel

#651
In Rom. 1:16, we see the point again coming out. Even though salvation is absolutely free . And it stresses that the power of God is into salvation  or towards salvation. Into or unto , either can be prepositioned . We cannot be ashamed of this gospel, it is the power of God  "unto" salvation, faith, belief , the righteousness of God gives us the faith , the blood of Christ has sanctified our lives and we begin to live by faith. God will begin to show us things. In Phil. 2:12-16we can take parts or roles in  this. Working out your own salvation, or working out your own style, be active ,. And never forget  it is God which works in you both the will , and to do his good pleasure. The right mind  and the spiritual development as we actively do his will. This can be exciting change In the midst of darkness we become lights that move and help people , not a lamp light that sits on the table ,our seniors can do that, because that motionless lamp can provide light to people and our seniors can impart wisdom to people, especially young people. But I have see some energetic seniors.

Mickiel

The gospel is the power of God unto salvation. And Jesus is the door. Oh many of us , often salvation is just a short distance and death awaits inside the door, or great blessing.  Depending on your path. lts just not all the same.  At the crucifixion Jesus took one thief and left one behind. I wonder how he took that strange hard  destiny. Hey don't leave me. These kinds of events have damaging effects on many believers. They don't want to die. Even know that Jesus has another door waiting for him.us all. If death appeared to me and had two swords. So he hands me a sword. He states through that door is life , and the other death.i 🤔 if I would fight. Or step aside and let Christ fight the battle. My conclusion , step  asidel. and watch the glory of God ,Jesus is finished means whoever has not submitted to him is doomed, and grace at every corner awaits them. I think only the behemoth of salvation Will
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Mickiel

#653
To those who are doomed , you refused to listen. To three who have the human
race under control. You have a pardon coming to you. the all father , Jesus , and the enigmatic Holy Spirit have spared your lives.. now , is your day of salvation. The mysterious Holy Spirit will be here on that great day of salvation, trying to comfort all that he can, and the way I have seen in scripture, there is no limit as to what  the stunning and responsible Holy Spirit will do.


Transformed. all of the heavenly host will be there.

darryl

aye..the Doomed have Hope !
"I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance".Isaiah 45:23

Mickiel

Now we will be transform to the identity we have in Christ on the kingdom report. Jesus has gathered us all together and  as in the book  of Acts , The Holy Spirit        will be casted on us all.., Acts 2:17., No select groups or churches
all the sinners will have to there part in this great salvation all have sinned , this all will be quicker than I first believed.  This is no hop, skip then jump  get judged..
All this is yet another planned event. The plan is and always has been salvation. Gods ace in the hole is Jesus relationship with the Holy Spirit. Theirs something there. God will flattened this world and only what you dob?7



Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel popoklink=topic=15688.msg219896#msg219896 date=1641288282
Now we will be transform to the identity we have in Christ on the kingdom report. Jesus has gathered us all together and  as in the book  of Acts , The Holy Spirit        will be casted on us all.., Acts 2:17., No select groups or churches
all the sinners will have to there part in this great salvation all have sinned , this all will be quicker than I first believed.  This is no hop, skip then jump  get judged..
All this is yet another planned event. The plan is and always has been salvation. Gods ace in the hole is Jesus relationship with the Holy Spirit. Theirs something there. God will flattened this world and only what you dob?7

Only what you do for Christ will last. Your new form is being constructively made in heaven now. You will be born again but recognized



darryl

Quote from: Mickiel on January 08, 2022, 10:37:48 PM
Quote from: Mickiel popoklink=topic=15688.msg219896#msg219896 date=1641288282
Now we will be transform to the identity we have in Christ on the kingdom report. Jesus has gathered us all together and  as in the book  of Acts , The Holy Spirit        will be casted on us all.., Acts 2:17., No select groups or churches
all the sinners will have to there part in this great salvation all have sinned , this all will be quicker than I first believed.  This is no hop, skip then jump  get judged..
All this is yet another planned event. The plan is and always has been salvation. Gods ace in the hole is Jesus relationship with the Holy Spirit. Theirs something there. God will flattened this world and only what you dob?7

Only what you do for Christ will last. Your new form is being constructively made in heaven now. You will be born again but recognized

'Your new form is being constructively made in heaven now'...interesting...Scriptural reference for this ?...thanks !.
"I have sworn by Myself, The word has gone forth from My mouth in righteousness And will not turn back, That to Me every knee will bow, every tongue will swear allegiance".Isaiah 45:23

Mickiel

Quote from: darryl on January 09, 2022, 06:42:25 AM
Quote from: Mickiel on January 08, 2022, 10:37:48 PM
Quote from: Mickiel popoklink=topic=15688.msg219896#msg219896 date=1641288282
Now we will be transform to the identity we have in Christ on the kingdom report. Jesus has gathered us all together and  as in the book  of Acts , The Holy Spirit        will be casted on us all.., Acts 2:17., No select groups or churches
all the sinners will have to there part in this great salvation all have sinned , this all will be quicker than I first believed.  This is no hop, skip then jump  get judged..
All this is yet another planned event. The plan is and always has been salvation. Gods ace in the hole is Jesus relationship with the Holy Spirit. Theirs something there. God will flattened this world and only what you dob?7

Only what you do for Christ will last. Your new form is being constructively made in heaven now. You will be born again but recognized

'Your new form is being constructively made in heaven now'...interesting...Scriptural reference for this ?...thanks !.



In John 14 :3 Jesus said he went back to heaven to prepare a place for us. Explain to yourself why Jesus would construct things in heaven for us , and give us the same old body? We can also look at 1Corinth. 15:52 where we are changed in the instant. we will have incorruptible forms designed by Christ himself. Explain to yourself why Jesus would wait for that moment to design our forms? No, he is doing that now. In 1Corinth.15:52 says we all shall be changed but not into the same imagery.  We will not be exact clones.

In Phil. 3:21 Christ will transform our Bodies into another body like his. The form is totally new , but you must use common sense in pulling this out of scripture. It makes more sense to design billions of forms for us now, than to wait until that great day.

Mickiel

Quote from: darryl on January 09, 2022, 06:42:25 AM
Quote from: Mickiel on January 08, 2022, 10:37:48 PM
Quote from: Mickiel popoklink=topic=15688.msg219896#msg219896 date=1641288282
Now we will be transform to the identity we have in Christ on the kingdom report. Jesus has gathered us all together and  as in the book  of Acts , The Holy Spirit        will be casted on us all.., Acts 2:17., No select groups or churches
all the sinners will have to there part in this great salvation all have sinned , this all will be quicker than I first believed.  This is no hop, skip then jump  get judged..
All this is yet another planned event. The plan is and always has been salvation. Gods ace in the hole is Jesus relationship with the Holy Spirit. Theirs something there. God will flattened this world and only what you dob?7

Only what you do for Christ will last. Your new form is being constructively made in heaven now. You will be born again but recognized

'Your new form is being constructively made in heaven now'...interesting...Scriptural reference for this ?...thanks !.

We again can 'Pull this out of scripture', 1Corinth.15:53 "For this corruptible must "Put on" incorruptible. Notice the use of "Put On", that implies something already made. We can put on shoes, we can put on hats , we can put on things that are already made. So we can assume our bodies are already made. , And feel safe assuming that from these few scriptures.

Mickiel

In 2 Corinth. ,5 ;1 we can see God is building things without hands., Read the whole chapter.. in verse 2 we groan to be clothed, that clothed is God created bodies.  Being unclothed means still in the flesh.

Mickiel

Also to consider , 1Thes. :14-17 I don't know all the reasons why God delays his return, but for sure is that he still wants increase in the number of citizens , and he is still constructing the new kingdom. We can also safely assume that the fact that the resurrection will happen at the return of Christ means that glorification will be a corporate reality and not an individual experience that happens to each believer. We'll all be raised into glory together. So the bodies must have already been prepared.

So again I am trying to show you other ways to pull meaning out of scripture, without changing it. Look at Dan. 12:13, " it as for you go your way to the end , then you'll enter into rest and rise again for your "Allowed portion" at the end of the age. The allotted portion refered to here are your house, land and new body. Yes even the house and land will be absolutely new. Our spirit , consciousness, all these unseen elements of the Kingdom, will be joined together with our new spirit, and placed into the body.

Mickiel

In 1John chapter 3, "Now we are the sons of God, and it does not yet appear what we shall be, when he does appear , we shall be like him, or similar to him , we shall see him as he'is." Again not clones of Jesus , family of Jesus

Mickiel

In Heb.11:40, God having provided something better for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. That God providing something "better and made perfect", is talking about the new Birth body made perfect. We know this is a kingdom spirit made body because a body cannot be made perfect in the flesh. A spirit body. Here again is the message that God is still perfecting  , or still designing perfect bodies for the Kingdom.

Mickiel

Notice Phil. 3:21"In heaven Christ will transform our lowly bodies so that they can be like his."In Psalm 102:18, this verse seems to indicate that the generations to come ,both past and present , Are still being created.

Mickiel

Remember with God  we need to understand that we can use many scriptures just to pull out one piece of Revelation about him. He truly is mysterious. But he created mankind and all of heaven rejoiced. We are fearfully and wonderfully made.God and Christ designed us one by one.In Psalms 149 is a good place to help in this understanding.
 

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on January 11, 2022, 10:10:42 AM
In 1John chapter 3, "Now we are the sons of God, and it does not yet appear what we shall be, when he does appear , we shall be like him, or similar to him , we shall see him as he'is." Again not clones of Jesus , family of Jesus
We are living in incredible times. God has made known his salvation., In Hebrew
God is saving new groups to praise him and God is delivering salvation to a group growing old.creating Behind the scenes. Not asking for our opinion.






Mickiel

In1John 3,now are we the sons of God lol , and it does not yet appear what we shall be like. They have not yet received the new body.

Mickiel

Until we are given our new body , it is either not finished yet , or not the time to transport your consciousness into the finale work of God. Which could mean your dead or sleep. It is appointed unto men once to die , and after this the judgment. Heb. 9:27.So the believers may be yet dead, but Christ is alive and working on their bodies , houses and land.

This is stunning! While we were still sinning , still sinners: Christ died for us. Our life insurance is astounding Rom.5: 8. God is seriously working on our future. Jeremiah 29:11 God says that he has plans for us. We need not fear death and restriction.

Mickiel

Really the terms "Spiritual- body, " are contradiction ,spirit form is far more
  accurate. Flesh is flesh, spirit is spirit. The physical body is what you see now , various elements of matter, arranged by Christ. Your spiritual body, or form,  does not have the same elements of matter. Physical and spiritual forms do not interact with each other. Not in my view. What we experience in the physical can be experienced through the senses. Only our consciousness can appeal to the spirit. In 1 Corinth 15:52-58 Again the terms "Put on"  incorruptible , mortal put on immortality.

So then death of the physical body must be considered  a victory.  The being changed in the twinkling of an eye , is your consciousness being transformed into a new spirit form. A spirit form that I think is already waiting on you.

Mickiel

 In John I4:3: notice Jesus teaching that he is going to prepare a place for us. We can safely assume he means mansions , which are dwellings , very large residence.  Let's . Only for numerical speculation let's say that the building of these places began when Jesus left earth over 2,000 years ago in heaven. Now this is speculation to stimulate a conversation. So then one of the things Jesus has been doing is building. So we can say that the large dwellings will be finished before the last great day. We'll conversely we can say that the spirit forms of all fleshy humans will also be completed.  The real emphasis is humanity, not buildings. But the renewal of the universe will be staggering , it makes sense to assume that God has already bought much of that online.  1Corith.15:22 "For in Adam all die , even so in Christ all shall be made alive". The physical bodies brought back online in order to be changed and born again. These will be whole transfers of flesh to spirit. No weird mixture of the two.

In 1Corinth. 15:40-50. In verse 44 it clearly states that there are natural, or fleshy bodies, and there are spiritual bodies. In verse 51 -52 that if God wanted two. ,  He could do all this is in moments, just as he could have created the universe in seconds. For this and other reasons I will show, I Believe that being born again means exactly that,the believer has undergone a whole new Birth. Not some weird mixture of the two.




Mickiel

This is another topic that can appear difficult. We tend to think that God needs to rush everything he does. like the creation of the universe . That may have taken millions of years, if we go by earth time. We'll it did take millions of earth years. That shows how patience with God is nothing like human patience. Archaeology reveals much about God if you read him into it. Like incredible androids , all humans have a spirit form made in heaven.

In the 23rd Psalm David said That God prepares a table before him , Universalism, in the presence of his enemies , anointed him with with oil, gives him what he needed.  We will dwell in the house of God forever.
to think God will do All these things during the  end time  at the pop of his fingers is poor translation.


Mickiel

You ever get that feeling that you should be doing something, yet the more conscious we become of sin and it's evasiveness , we can understand that we need God to navigate our lives to walk by faith , or just face a ton of guilt you must carry.  Satan wants that desire you have to good , to be spoiled and riddled in sadness, knowing our salvation is nearer than ever before. I am truly saddened that I seem to need so much from God , and THAT'S the trap ,that's the hole Satan wants us in. So instead of asking for the same thing from God , you just do nothing.

Satan wants us to get Tangled in our own prayers. He's trying to get you to stop praying. So we can ask all-day long, keep asking and you will receive,Matt. 7:7, We any to be bold in our prayers , we already have a pot of gold locked away and secured in heaven. Whatever is in your heart , deserves prayer. I know it's rough holding on to this view of universal salvation. If you feel that your prayers are too repetitive , you just need to give those thoughts over to God and ask him to explain them to your learning. Ask the Spirit to uncover every hidden corner of sin in your consciousness.  God is overjoyed in wanting to help you..

Salvation should be motivation to see Jesus has cornered the market on atonement and the demonic world hates this.Every time we pray it slaps Satan in the mouth. But don't allow your sin to shut up your prayers. I wish I could hear more prayers than I do. Just to listen at how others communicate with God. I bet many of you has had a good talk with  God. Some of us can come through a stampede of demons , and tell them a thing or two about our sponsor Jesus. Universal salvation is so large and unique , the love it will one day generate will encompass the universe. So let God and Christ handle your future. We may seem like we are imprisoned , it's only to the degree of helping you. Often I just don't understand God or his thoughts , their just not like ours.

I remember in times past I thought I was sharing new knowledge, then years later find out that I was as wrong as dead fleas. Now I just follow God around hoping to learn from the crumbs that fall off the table. Follow God, we got nothing better to do.

Mickiel

To believe in Universal salvation , your belief system will be taxed to it's maximum. you have to see unlimited grace and your conscience understanding will be moved to see more forgiveness of sin to it's maximum and more. Your mind will be stretched in it's concept of total love for all humans ,and no matter how corrupt the human sinner, your insight into how much Christ will forgive must be endless.  The universal heart must begin to beat for all humans , including yours. The universal belief system is all inclusive , so the mind will be taxed to it's limit in it's temptation to condemn , the natural tendency is to judge harshly , In John 12:47 Jesus did not come to judge the world which is natural tendency to section off salvation , but he came to save the world, which is unatural tendency taxed beyond limitations.

Universal salvation is taxing, hardly anyone believes it. It's mentally demanding. This salvation will make demands on one's skill , attention and interest being stretched to full capacity in your standards. it will make serious demands in you forgiving yourself. The standard of evil interference in your belief will be great, because a great evil being is seriously looking to eliminate your faith, which is taxing. True salvation imputes no sin , and Satan will do anything to change the truth.

Satan seems to change the theology of truth by mixing it with lies. A biblical theology of Satan is to place a Trojan horse inside of any righteous place or person. Satan has a relationship with unbelievers, and he wants to partner with you. This being has manuvered himself into the terrain of the bible itself. He has built an unstable biblical theology, positioning himself for an all out war on belief. To disarm belief. Even a true believer can have a guilty conscience ,  having a had time looking at their past sins , because sin is so ugly and can stain a good hearted believer.

Jesus made a spectacle of Satan by defeating him on the cross. Yet Satan knows how powerful the doctrine of Universalism is. So he does not act in isolation, but has organized and mobilized a rebel Amy to go after the pall bearers of truth. He is relentless , even going after a believer who has gone to bed for relaxing sleep, but be not dismayed , Jesus is invincible and procured our deliverance.
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Mickiel

#674
In Romans 1:25 ,they exchanged the Truth about God into a lie. Vs 21- these believers knew God, but their hearts became foolish, and that led to vain imagination ,and their hearts were darkened. Claiming themselves to be wise, they became fools. The seduction of the believers mind is tragic.  In them something other than the truth is being formed. The redemption of faith is twisted . Now they begin to boast , being justified by their belief system, grace  through the redemption of Christ  is distorted , and grace is separated from redemption. Salvation is a smorgusborg of grace, redemption and forgiveness. There are no other ingredients in the merciful pie 🥧 of salvation. None that extract from the truth.