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The fear of Eternity

Started by Mickiel, April 18, 2021, 09:02:26 PM

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Mickiel

So we hope in what we cannot see , with our physical eyes that is: there is another eye of hope:  that inner eye . That spiritual eye of hope. That inner eye is that we can see extraordinary things in the spirit , and some
May hear things. I listen to people, places and things and gain Inspiration often, just listening. No different than just sitting down outside and just listening to nature and looking. You gain inspiration and soon your Hoping for something. Sometimes you can just see right through something. Right through something In scripture , it's nothing like the experience , very rewarding. And rewarding when you share these times and hopes.

So we hope in eternity  everlasting hope. I kept looking at eternity , even though sometimes I am blocked , I go back. I can't see but I am there , the hope alive.

Mickiel

Romans 1:16 the gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation. This is the real gospel truth. The Hebrew and Greek words for salvation imply the ideas of deliverance , safety , preservation , healing and soundness. Salvation is the great universal inclusive word for the gospel , gathering into itself all the redemptive acts and processes: as justification , redemption , grace, propitiation, imputation , forgiveness, sanctification and glorification.

Salvation has three tenses , the person has been saved , is being saved and is to be saved. Salvation makes us safe. We slid into home base safe. Blessed we are people whom the Lord will not impute sin. Our ungodliness was the target of Christ righteous mission. Our death in sin was universal, so our salvation from it had to be universal.

Mickiel

In Rev. 14:4, three angels are flying mid air , the first has an "Everlasting Gospel", an eternal gospel. The only place in scripture this is said.  It means an eternally unchanging message of salvation through Christ is eternal truth, solid and unchanging as God himself . The benefits are everlasting. We will live under this reality and flourish. We will be in perfect health with clean conscious and having the Holy Spirit of God inside us. We will learn at a greatly excelerated rate with no interference from evil ever again. Under these conditions we will be quite something as the ages roar onward. I shutter to think on it.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on July 22, 2021, 09:39:35 PM
In Rev. 14:4, three angels are flying mid air , the first has an "Everlasting Gospel", an eternal gospel. The only place in scripture this is said.  It means an eternally unchanging message of salvation through Christ is eternal truth, solid and unchanging as God himself . The benefits are everlasting. We will live under this reality and flourish. We will be in perfect health with clean conscious and having the Holy Spirit of God inside us. We will learn at a greatly excelerated rate with no interference from evil ever again. Under these conditions we will be quite something as the ages roar onward. I shutter to think on it.

Now we deal with God from a weakened state still we learn. But we have truckloads of handicaps to limit us and weight us down. In eternity it will be under totally opposite conditions. We will be in a perfect atmosphere of Peace, our minds primed to learn and get to know God,  No inhibitions , no doubts and no weakness s in any communication fed us. God's family will be formidable and powerful angels our assistants. The things attached to our living consciousness will be stunning.

Mickiel

In Rev.22:2 more evidence time will not end in eternity. A healing will take place , the great tree of life will yield it's fruit every month. Months are measurements of time, time will exist in eternity.. and our healing is concentrated to last in stages, similar to taking medicine. I find that quite interesting.

Ross

We will be like Christ.
Chew on that statement.
Our current state of being cannot be in the presence of God.
Our Father is more powerful than the sun.
No wonder our changes are necessary through the resurrection process.
We think we can do something now,  but that is insignificant in the grand scheme.
The fact that this was all planned before the world began is awesome.
To indeed focus on the things to come is inspirational.
C. U
Fellow brother in Christ

Mickiel

Quote from: Ross on July 23, 2021, 03:55:54 AM
We will be like Christ.
Chew on that statement.
Our current state of being cannot be in the presence of God.
Our Father is more powerful than the sun.
No wonder our changes are necessary through the resurrection process.
We think we can do something now,  but that is insignificant in the grand scheme.
The fact that this was all planned before the world began is awesome.
To indeed focus on the things to come is inspirational.
C. U

Amen, to focus on the things to come is eternal inspiration. Looking ahead is a form of time. In the Kingdom we will always look ahead , or increase. More plans will be made , planning takes time and needs time to produce it's outcome. I guess by now the brethren here know I believe in time in eternity.

We cannot be in the presence of God now, but in time we will. Every stage is a matter of time. The calling of God itself is a matter of time. Each in their own time.

Mickiel


God is not impacted personally by time , but he can do with it whatever he so pleases. He can do anything with it, you cannot limit his use of time.. and you cannot remove time from eternity. It's a senseless misunderstood movement and belief. You can't change the very definition of something just to support a doctrine. Eternity is endless time by one definition , how can you remove time from endless time. That means time never ends. So then it has serious comparisons to God, their endless.

That means time has been here as long as God. Not physical time , see that is where we get confused perhaps. Time has been used in both worlds , so we think it's alike. As in all things , the spiritual is always different and the superior. God does not have a clock, but he most definitely has timing. His sense of timing is flawless and Jesus said only God knows the time of his return. So some timing even the great Christ cannot keep. So think on these things whether they have merit. Don't just fall for any knowledge. Especially things concerning God.

Mickiel

In Isaiah 66:22 God says the new heavens and the new earth I am about to make will remain standing before me. To remain eternally is endless time , or you can say "For all time". The term "Remain" is important. Remember when John the Baptist an ounces Jesus coming and when he baptized him it says the Holy Spirit decended upon him and "Remained on him". This is the real difference between having the spirit inside you perminently , or it just being with you from time to time, like a visitation.  In my view the spirit right now is in a time of visitation and will enter believers perminently at a later time

Many believers may not accept this,  but it's just my view of it. I don't know think a church has been called out yet and unified ,. I  think they would be easy to recognize , like a bright city on a hill. I have not seen that in the world. When the spirit remains the world will know it, it won't be a secret.

Mickiel

You can see it in John 1:33 ,"And I knew him not, but he that sent me to baptize with water , the same said unto me , upon whom thou shall see the Spirit descending , and remaining on him.

So the spirit stays with him from then on , It never leaves him again. It is in him. And this is the same process that any other believer must experience in order to have God's spirit.

Mickiel

#235
Some of religions are trying to micro manage salvation.they want to set up their own barriers and cost. Remove the freedom from salvation. In Romans 5:21 salvation is God's free gift of grace. Grace leads to salvation and eternal life. Man needs to put a price on it to try and control it.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on July 24, 2021, 07:01:17 PM
Some of religions are trying to micro manage salvation.they want to set up their own barriers and cost. Remove the freedom from salvation. In Romans 5:21 salvation is God's free gift of grace. Grace leads to salvation and eternal life. Man needs to put a price on it to try and control it.

This is one reason the hell doctrine became so powerful and popular. It's a cost man must pay in addition to Christ sacrifice. Even Christianity has this all throughout their bloodstream. Salvation became distorted in history. Satan was there as every deceptive drop of acid was historically poured on salvation , it became disfigured. Which means the true gospel was distorted .  A world full of sin was now handicapped seriously. The truth went underground and hardly surfaces enough to make any difference. In Amos 8:11," a famine of truth throughout the land. Salvation starvation.

Mickiel

#237
Yet out of a darkness of horrors and deception , the truth will come and clean. God has given us his Written word and we have read end of story. We take a loving leap from this world to the next. This reality is God's , all things belong to him. Salvation to our Lord of host.

Mickiel

Oh Most High deliver us , the times we fear eternity we will not be afraid , we will trust in you. You have been a shelter to your people , and a strong tower from the enemy. For your mercy is great unto the heavens and your truth unto the clouds. He is our rock and our defence , our salvation salute. Our flesh and our hearts fail , but God is the strength of our heart and our portion for ever. Oh give thanks to him , we wait for grand reason , we wait on him. Mercy and truth are met together, righteousness and peace have kissed each other. Righteousness goes before him and he shall set us in the way of his steps.

Mickiel

Let's us walk circumspectly then , by every word that proceeded out of the mouth of God. Praying for each other's comfort. Let us rejoice and be exceedingly glad that salvation is our reward in heaven. We are predestined to become the light of the world , pray without ceasing that God's Kingdom come and his will be done. The love, Joy and Will of God be with you and your children.  Ask and it shall be given you, seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be opened to you , both knowledge and truth. Press your prayers on God and don't let up. Habitually humble yourself before him and offer him your good fruit.

Mickiel

Oh how I long to know God , my desires to have his spirit , my constant prayer to know Jesus. Not knowing them has been a great pain.  Knowing of them a comfort. I wish there were a climate change between us and things warmed up personally.

God bless the Lamb ; love ,joy and will!

Mickiel

I often wonder what God's voice sounds like , when you want to get to know him it kind of makes you want to know as much about him as you can, doesn't it? Every little nuance , all the tentacles of knowledge available concerning him. All the beautiful biblical nuggets. I have read that his voice is like thunder : wow , I bet it sounds majestic. I wonder if he speaks to the kingdom residents much? Or if he delivers sermon like speeches? Or updates on the kingdom business. Wouldn't that be interesting.

I wonder how he is going to prep this world for it's final stages? How many humans he will use in that and how? What his final church will be like, I sure would like to meet them. I'm getting old but I sure would like to see all the end times , that would fantastical. According to scripture some people will begin to have dreams on all that. Be interesting to hear them.

Wouldn't be interesting to entertain an angel, and know it's an angel before you speak with them. I believe I may have spoken with one a few years back. But I did not know it at the time. It was a very strange interaction. It was a demon angel , I know because of what it asked. It was during the day and I was going to catch a train in Atlanta. A man walked up to me and asked " Why are we doomed ,. Humans are no better than us." Why can't we live? He looked very angry and sullen. I was speechless , couldn't think of a word to say. And he just walked away. It kind of shook me up, I felt it's rage. But maybe it was nothing. Nobody.


Isn't life something?

Mickiel

I had one other incident that may have been God speaking to me, again I am unsure because I know I just can't go around saying that when it happened in a maze type twirling conscious surrealness . I was in my bedroom and I have had lung cancer for 4 years and it was getting worse. I remember crying out to God asking him why he is killing me? I was praying so hard and intense , and very afraid. Then it happened. I began to feel like I was in a dream. And a voice said to me, " Your still alive and your one of mine." That's all it said and I came out of the maze. That was 3 years ago. I've had lung cancer For 7 years. Been told by doctors 3 times I had weeks to live, each time they were wrong. And I am very thankful of course and hope they stay wrong. We leave here when God is ready for us to go.

So I cherish even the weird things that happen to me . My life is just not that exciting anyway, so these things rile me up a bit.

Mickiel

 You ever try to tone your instincts ? Sharpen your consciousness and pinpoint on improving the perspective. How about trying to sharpen your eternal spirit? Tone your eternal instincts. Of course you have to jump out of the flesh and travel using your consciousness , your spirit engine. You need a focus then on the other side. You can use a scripture and jump into the scripture with an open consciousness and a prayer for revelation , and visit the eternity in it. See the rainbow around God's throne . Look at the awesome Cherubs there. Get on the ground and start walking through the holy city.

Meditate or "Chew on it",. Hear the echos of eternity. Get on the road that never ends and walk it like the wizard of Oz!  When you get back, tell us about it.

Mickiel

I jumped out of myself one day and meditated my way into eternity it. I Flew through the north clouds and grounded. There was the entrance, towering right in front of me. Two giant eagles, one on each side, at least 700 feet tall and made of gold. They seemed to be the gate, instead of protecting the entrance. I was like a tiny speck of dust, as I walked by constantly looking up at them both. Their faces were regal and peaceful. The road was long in front of them but I could see the city in the distance. Something in me wanted to stop and try to commune with these two great deity's,  but I was too awed.

The street was paved with gold as well. Everything along the road was big.  Characters were walking to and fro,looking like something out of star wars. It was so fun to be there. I awoke missing every bit of it.






Mickiel

The fear of eternity laps the course of curiosity. It runs like an endless sea of water. Like watching a Quasar go super nova , eternity spans space like it's spitting it out constantly. We hope to peak at God's domain and get a glimpse of the star filled drama and listen to the galactic dialog. How great thou art.

Mickiel


In Job 3:2,-5," Hear attentively the noise of his voice  the sound that goes out of his mouth. He directs it under the whole heaven , and his lightening unto the ends of the earth. After it a voice roars, he thunders with the voice of his Excellency , and he will not stay them when his voice is heard. God thunders marvellously with his voice, great things does he , which we cannot comprehend." So God has a very powerful voice that sounds like thunder roaring. Whew, how that must sound. Then it says he does great things, like universal salvation is a really great thing for him to do, things which we really cannot comprehend. Things still a mystery to us.

Mickiel

Of course we cannot be sure , but I am leaning on God's appearence having some human characteristics. He has a voice so probably has a mouth. He has eyes so probably has a face. He sits on a throne so probably has a mid torso with arms and legs and feet. He may have wings and multicolored coverings that we know as "Skin." He shines and emits great power. His voice is like thunder so he may be a quite large being in size. He may be mixed with eagle , lion and flames of fire.

He most likely has hair which may be white and wooly. He may have a halo of fire about his head.  He might have a changing Jewell like appearence and a rainbow surrounding him.  And he is most likely clothed in white rainment of some type. He stands , he walks  and probably can fly.  He likes music so he may have ears.  But he is a chameleon creature so he can transform himself into anything he pleases.  And he can become invisible. Truly an extraordinary being God is.

Mickiel

Of course I have heard different interpretations of how God appears. Some say all the human and animal like comparisons are not so, he is pure spirit and all those other analogies were just for our benefit. They say no one knows how he looks. I personally lean on clues dropped by scripture , that is enough to start on in my understanding. Let the bible give us clues. such as in Rev.19:11-16,  Jesus is described as having eyes like flames of fire and on his head were many crowns. Again a head with eyes , more human like. He is wearing white clothes , and speaking, so he has a mouth. He's riding a horse , so earthly type animals are in the Kingdom.

Mickiel

Remember the "Wisdom of Solomon" 2:23-24 for God created man to be immortal and made in an image of his own eternity." I like that. We were made in the image of God's eternity. Wow, that can be unpacked to reveal much. In James 3:9 we are made in the likeness of God. So although I believe the image of God is more the consciousness , it could also mean some features of God like head, eyes, mouth , arms and legs.

God's image of his own eternity may include countless forms and shapes that he takes on. Some eternals are transformers and chameleons. Shape shifters with uncanny ability.