The fear of Eternity

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Quote from: Mickiel on July 15, 2021, 05:45:18 PM
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Quote from: Mickiel on July 12, 2021, 06:34:55 PM
. Satan is evil , nuclear and explosive , torrid and  mean.  That's why I believe God is going to will him out of existence.

or even better, transform Satan into something Good as He transforms us.

I personally believe Satan will be destroyed. I see nothing in scripture that hints God may recreate him. We may not like it, but God is Omega, the end of things he does not want.

One may wonder what I have against Satan that I can't Invision him being saved ; what I have against him. No matter, if that has to be answered I may still be sleeping. In my view Satan was created
for a reason , Isaiah 54:16 to kill and destroy God's creations. God's hand formed him for that, Job 26:16. Created crooked and evil and violent ,with no plans of salvation  offered to him.

Nor his demons. Does God create things that he will not recreate? Of course. Most of the animals on earth will probably not be resurrected. He will create all new animals. Everything will be new business. God has the power to change Satan, if he took a toll I would vote no. But he's not asking our opinions.

Satan is not human nor is he like the holy angels, nothing like them. He is God's power charged to the super negative , angry and sullen, jealous and hateful. He is death and hell and I think the first death awaits him. I hold only enough mercy for Satan that I don't think even it deserves  eternal punishing. He is evil plasmonic revenge that only God knows what to do with it. I think he wills him out of existence. Good riddance I day.

Mickiel

One can ask what about the one scripture that places Satan in fire for eternity , the lake was designed for him. But I like the question that arrises  , why keep him around for eternity , making a monument out of sin?  Those are murky waters , when God can simply erase him. Blot him out of existence. His memory wiped clean in reality , his history deleted. Still it will be interesting to see what God does , he always does what is best. Salvation needs no long lasting scar.

Mickiel

I am glad that God is not willing that any humans perish , meaning he has not willed it , he has willed all to repent , it's his expressed will in 2Pet.3:9 and 1Tim.2:4. Salvation unto him who is able to keep us from falling , rich in mercy and grace , his sense of our salvation stays fresh. Our life to come his will. The Lord of peace himself give you hope and peace always by all means , his spirit being his ways and means for us. That we may be delivered from the wickedness of this world and embrace the truth blessed to our consciousness awareness , given a peek at the glory to come and hold hope for those who have lost hope.

Mickiel

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Salvation to him who is able to keep us from falling. That we might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing , being fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God. In hopes that every now and then he gives us a tune up , strengthen with all might according to his glorious power. Who has transported us from darkness and translated  to us  the understanding of scripture and into the knowledge  of the kingdom of his dear son. Who is the image of the invisible God , meaning they think alike and have reasonings. We re made in that image , we think , live ,move and have our being. The conscious creations of God. The first humans created with consciousness. By that I mean Adam was the first man created with consciousness , or the image of God. I believe God created the cave men, Neanderthals , but not in his image, I don't think they were fully conscious beings.

This is one way they could be created before Adam, but yet Adam be called the first man , the first fully conscious man. Neanderthals had high instincts. But  I believe they existed, there is too much archaeological evidence to support it. Why God created them, I don't know. We're they trial runs , like model types? We're they stages like those of a rocket boosting off a ship , varied stages meant to all push toward civilized man? Prototypes that God learned from?

Mickiel

So Adam was not the first man God created, cavemen predate him, I think the explanation is he was the first man with consciousness. With intellect spirit, with closeness to God. There is a spirit in man, and that is consciousness, I don't think Neanderthals and Cromagnon had that spirit blew into them. Just high instincts. This would be the theory I favor to explain this.

That leaves me to wonder what God will do with them in eternity. Will he ressurect them? Will they stay discontinued? I am unsure. But curious.

Mickiel

Salvation has many unexplained drama's in reality, I think it will be  a much larger event than we expect. I think it will be on a super grand scale. A glorious Holy Day perhaps celebrated forever. Once we see the sheer amount of people saved in the kingdom, we will be astounded at how big the family will be. So much joy and happiness will roar from the mass as we praise our God for his goodness.

Mickiel

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Jesus came into the world to spearhead salvation. Well what was he doing? 1Tim.1:15 , Christ came into the world to save sinners. 1Corinth. 15:3 Christ died for our sins according to scripture. Salvation was a life giving grand sacrifice. We then were created to survive all the things we face. Nothing was designed to defeat us , Jesus cleared the way and paved the path to God. So the stage was set and predetermined to start a cycle that would return to God without fail.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on July 18, 2021, 07:31:27 PM
Salvation has many unexplained drama's in reality, I think it will be  a much larger event than we expect. I think it will be on a super grand scale. A glorious Holy Day perhaps celebrated forever. Once we see the sheer amount of people saved in the kingdom, we will be astounded at how big the family will be. So much joy and happiness will roar from the mass as we praise our God for his goodness.

In Rev. 7:9," After this I beheld , and lo, a great multitude , which no man could number , of all nation's, and kindreds , and people , and tongues , stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes , and palms in their hands." And cried with a loud voice , "Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne , and unto the Lamb. " A vivid description of universal salvation if I ever heard one. This is no small mass , it's humongous!  Shouting salvation to our God! Oh what a scene this will be. I think billions upon billions! No one will ever be alone again.

This is the beginning of the creation of God!

Mickiel

One of my fears of eternity is the old cleche , " It's too good to be true." So my heart searches the proofs of God over and over again. I cannot believe that conscious life evolved from nothing. That is pure nonsense in my corporal reasoning. For life to even be created, it must first exist so it can create. And with all this life I have seen , something far greater than life had to create it. Nothing lesser.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on July 19, 2021, 01:31:55 AM
One of my fears of eternity is the old cleche , " It's too good to be true." So my heart searches the proofs of God over and over again. I cannot believe that conscious life evolved from nothing. That is pure nonsense in my corporal reasoning. For life to even be created, it must first exist so it can create. And with all this life I have seen , something far greater than life had to create it. Nothing lesser.

And oh how that points to and explains God , it points to and directly implicates a creator behind the sizzling stages of universal reality that has unfolded, just in our human lives. Like a giant quasar pulsating with coherant reason and intent, the 7 spirits of God blossomed this behemoth and fashioned only earth to suit human life. Devine intent, somebody wanted all this to be , we exist by the intentions of God. And great love has been shown by this revealed plan of salvation , a great purpose that is the romance of all ages. Great love has to do with this.

Mickiel

It's almost just too good to be true that this God of ageless past did such a cataclysmic creation of complexity to produce his own offspring for all future geoliogc ages. We will walk in his shoes into eternity freely as welcome citizens of an even newer creation.

Mickiel

Love, joy , will! This is what I am going to shout out in the Kingdom. My favorite spiritual slogan.  The love of God , the Joy of God and the will of God. That covers it all man. It gets no better than that.  I can just see God smiling and over joyed at so much he has accomplished . I think he smiles most of the time because he is a happy being. Love and joy is his will; his way. His demeanor. His actual character.

When we read " God so loved the world that he gave it Jesus",  is a reaction of great love. He does not hate the world, he loves it.  So much that he gave us his greatest value , what he loves the most: Christ. I love you so much , I give you my Son in whom I am well pleased. Jesus is the reason God is having so many children, he made him want more. "If they turn out like Christ, my goodness" , he must think. He'll have a truckload of righteousness rocking the universe.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on July 19, 2021, 02:02:26 AM
Quote from: Mickiel on July 19, 2021, 01:31:55 AM
One of my fears of eternity is the old cleche , " It's too good to be true." So my heart searches the proofs of God over and over again. I cannot believe that conscious life evolved from nothing. That is pure nonsense in my corporal reasoning. For life to even be created, it must first exist so it can create. And with all this life I have seen , something far greater than life had to create it. Nothing lesser.

And oh how that points to and explains God , it points to and directly implicates a creator behind the sizzling stages of universal reality that has unfolded, just in our human lives. Like a giant quasar pulsating with coherant reason and intent, the 7 spirits of God blossomed this behemoth and fashioned only earth to suit human life. Devine intent, somebody wanted all this to be , we exist by the intentions of God. And great love has been shown by this revealed plan of salvation , a great purpose that is the romance of all ages. Great love has to do with this.

I rehearse intent as a proof of God and that leads me to deliberant as another proof. The universe and all life was Deliberately   done. It was not random theory or lucky circumstances. There was obviously purpose. Let's say we walk down a street and see three dimes on the ground , we think nothing of it, perhaps dropped by mistake. We go further and see six more dimes on the ground, now we can suspect more things , like a hole in someone's pocket. But then we walk further and find ten dimes on the ground and lined up in a perfect row and perfectly balanced on their edges , now we can know that this was Deliberately done. Well this is how we view life and the universe , it was Deliberately done. Diverse complexity is sure sign of Deliberate intent, with always then points to a reasonable source that has reasoned things out. Which then we point to God.

Mickiel

Salvation then was enevitable and intentional. Christ was predestined to die and taste death for every man to make salvation perfect through sufferings. So Jesus had to be changed in order to change us, made a little lower than angels, a deliberate deduction , making his death even possible. God is building a powerhouse salvation unlike anything he has ever done before. The great powers now set in play are both now enevitable and irreversible. It started when the mind of God became pregnant with man.

Mickiel

Another thing on God's mind for salvation had to be Tentmaker itself and Gary. This giant resource has been a cane and can opener to unknown perhaps thousands of people God has marked.  One of the few gospel resources that has stood the test in of time.

Mickiel

God so loved the world , or the people , that he gave It Jesus and eternal life. We shall not perish. Salvation is totally devoid of human perishing. Suffering yes, perishing no. In John 5:24 we have passed from death unto life and eternity is now within us. We are now an eternal. The gift of God is eternal life , eternal consciousness, eternal mind, eternal audience to God and Christ, eternity  is garenteed personal time with them. We have to get to know them, it's a promise , this personal time. Look at John 17:3 ,"And this is eternal life , that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." There it is right there, out appointments in eternity.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on July 20, 2021, 11:25:32 PM
God so loved the world , or the people , that he gave It Jesus and eternal life. We shall not perish. Salvation is totally devoid of human perishing. Suffering yes, perishing no. In John 5:24 we have passed from death unto life and eternity is now within us. We are now an eternal. The gift of God is eternal life , eternal consciousness, eternal mind, eternal audience to God and Christ, eternity  is garenteed personal time with them. We have to get to know them, it's a promise , this personal time. Look at John 17:3 ,"And this is eternal life , that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." There it is right there, out appointments in eternity.

In Psalms 16:11 God will teach us and make known to us the path of the endless life, in his presence there is fullness of Joy, at his right hand are pleasures forever more. Do you see and begin to comprehend that, pleasures forever more. Whew! Lord Jesus what a destiny we have.  Can you imagine being happy forever? Having an everlasting king. Living in an everlasting kingdom.

In Isaiah 9:7 it says of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end. It's incredible, peace always growing . His government always increasing. That means his throne will grow. The very governing body of heaven may expand and be expansive as the universe itself. God is a Monarchy and dictatorship mixed together I would say. An absolute ruler. With a great heart that is legendary in eternity.

Mickiel

Isaiah 9:7 is another scripture that fans my fear of eternity. Peace and government that always increases! Whew! Wow. I can't imagine it.i start meditating on it , then it's like I always get to this scary closed door that backs me off .. it's wild. Mysterious. Powerful.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on July 21, 2021, 12:29:46 AM
Isaiah 9:7 is another scripture that fans my fear of eternity. Peace and government that always increases! Whew! Wow. I can't imagine it.i start meditating on it , then it's like I always get to this scary closed door that backs me off .. it's wild. Mysterious. Powerful.

The zeal of the Lord shall perform this.  Judgment with justice from henceforth even forever. The reign of the Prince of Peace.

Mickiel

When humans have children they strengthen the family. When God brings his offspring into eternity they 1. Strengthen the family.

2.increase God's joy.
3: Expand the kingdom
4. Multiply the nation's.
5. Increase the worship.
6. Cause the kingdom to rejoice
7. Glorious fruitful fellowships begin.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on July 21, 2021, 05:21:17 AM
When humans have children they strengthen the family. When God brings his offspring into eternity they 1. Strengthen the family.

2.increase God's joy.
3: Expand the kingdom
4. Multiply the nation's.
5. Increase the worship.
6. Cause the kingdom to rejoice
7. Glorious fruitful fellowships begin.

8. Meet God's quota for a populated heaven.
9. That all Israel be saved.
10. Prophecy fulfilled.
11. All scripture fulfilled.
12. God's holy vow fulfilled.
13. Death and sin eliminated.
14. Rewards passed out.
15. Earth becomes the center of the universe.

Mickiel

16. Knowledge dispensated.
17. Clothes issued . Wearing white robes is another indication that our spririt forms may be similar to human bodies ,having arms ,legs , torso , and head.
18. Orientation of some type

Mickiel

19.  A grouping into nation's and tribes. With such a large mass of people it maybe a seperation into smaller nation's , to better rule the people.
20. Dinner time! The feast of  of ages.

Mickiel

Often I am accused of speculating too much about spiritual matters , and I do . I like 2 Corinth. 4:18 ," So we fix our eyes not on what is seen , but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary , but what is unseen is eternal." The fear of eternity gives me a healthy respect of it . I respect scripture, I do  . I like the bible so I
Understand why it's the most stolen book out there , theives like it too. Funny, the bible the book people like to steal. So I often fix my gaze on things eternal.

I wonder about 2 Corinth.5:1, we have a house in heaven not built by human hands. I wonder what my house is like. I wonder if the king will ever visit me. I see myself siting on the balcony and still pondering salvation. Life is good.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on July 21, 2021, 09:42:13 PM
Often I am accused of speculating too much about spiritual matters , and I do . I like 2 Corinth. 4:18 ," So we fix our eyes not on what is seen , but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary , but what is unseen is eternal." The fear of eternity gives me a healthy respect of it . I respect scripture, I do  . I like the bible so I
Understand why it's the most stolen book out there , theives like it too. Funny, the bible the book people like to steal. So I often fix my gaze on things eternal.

I wonder about 2 Corinth.5:1, we have a house in heaven not built by human hands. I wonder what my house is like. I wonder if the king will ever visit me. I see myself siting on the balcony and still pondering salvation. Life is good.

So I hope for some spiritual things that I cannot even see. Ask for those spiritual gifts I need in myself. And we can hope for all things , hope is not a waste of time. In Romans 8:24-25 ," For we are saved by hope , but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why hope for it?" But if we hope for what we see not, then we with patience wait for it. We reach for our top thoughts  the cream of our Godly desires. We hope for righteousness , oh how I hope for righteousness. To be cleaned of all bad habits and more fruit 🍑 of the spirit.