The fear of Eternity

[Mickiel]

Isn't it unusual, we are waiting to live forever. What do we pack for. Such a Trip?

We brought nothing into this world and we will go into our salvation with the beginning of a renewed consciousness into eternity. Eye has not seen neither can we imagine what awaits us in the Kingdom. Our hope is magnifying.

But the nothing that the scientist claims brought is into existence is raw deception , we did not come from nothing. Something cannot bring itself into existence , since it must exist to bring itself into existence. Our origin is the consciousness of God. He perceived us. It's impossible for anything to exist unperceived.

As God gave it to Adam to name all animals , in John 1:3 he gave to Christ to create all things , " All things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made."  He perceived all things , Col. 1:17.

This is how Christ is all and in all.

In Col.1:16 , the superiority of Christ , for by him were all things created , that are in heaven , and on earth , visible and  invisible thrones or dominions, or principalities or powers, all things were created by him and for him. He is all in all because all humanity is his body.

[Mickiel]

Salvation is a big deal. Earth's current population is around 7 billion. If we speculate on how many humans have ever lived: we can't. But let's guess between 100 billion on the low end, upwards to 500 billion , who knows? But we're talking about a whole lot of humans.

[Mickiel]

Humanity is the body of Christ , He is all and in all because we will have put on the new man. Which is after the image of Christ. In this image there is neither jew nor Greek , circumcision or uncircumcised, barbarian , scythian  bond or free: but Christ is all In all. Amazing how he does his , a ransom for all. He is protecting us all.

[Mickiel]

I believe we exist because of Jesus. The Father wanted   a Son so he birthed Christ. I think Jesus tuned out so well it pleased the Father. It made him want more children , and this is one reason we exist.

[Mickiel]

I wonder why God choose this avenue for Salvation?

[Mickiel]

 Wonder why the suffering?

[Ross]

He disciplines whom He loves.
His love never fails.
Creating has not stopped- but is being prepared for the next phase.
The angels will have a complete change to their role.
The ecclesia will be the first to be involved,  then others,  then the rest after their correction.
A master plan with great outcome.

[Mickiel]

As I meditate on the master plan , I know if God has done something, then it could not be done in a better way. I just wonder what he is accomplishing from our suffering?

He's getting something out of it, something with eternal ramifications. Something more good than I can figure.

[Mickiel]

Even the ones we think will be first in the plan, I think they will be last.

[Mickiel]

I guess I just don't like suffering.

[Mickiel]

I guess I just don't like suffering.

But who does

[Mickiel]

I often wonder what the 4 most powerful things in salvation are?  I would say Christ , love ,joy and Gods will.

Love , joy , will: whew wow!

[Mickiel]

I often wonder what the 4 most powerful things in salvation are?  I would say Christ , love ,joy and Gods will.

Love , joy , will: whew wow!

Then again one could make another case for salvation's big four; Mercy, forgiveness , grace and kindness, and those be relevant as well.
There are a lot of strengths to support universal salvation. See if you make a list that would stop them. What really could compete with them?  Basically the fruit of the spirit are all the protectors of salvation. Against such things there is no law. They have no enemies in heaven. I think the fruit of the spirit are alive; living principalities.it may take some time to get a personal audience with God, but I have a hundred questions.

[Mickiel]

I often wonder what the 4 most powerful things in salvation are?  I would say Christ , love ,joy and Gods will.

Love , joy , will: whew wow!

Then again one could make another case for salvation's big four; Mercy, forgiveness , grace and kindness, and those be relevant as well.
There are a lot of strengths to support universal salvation. See if you make a list that would stop them. What really could compete with them?  Basically the fruit of the spirit are all the protectors of salvation. Against such things there is no law. They have no enemies in heaven. I think the fruit of the spirit are alive; living principalities.it may take some time to get a personal audience with God, but I have a hundred questions.
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To kneel before God , is to be in the presence of self generating combustion power containment spirit filled Life. God is a birthing mecca. He is responsible for all things.

[Mickiel]

 Tentmaker is the one of the few places that  publish good news, Isaiah 52:7, how beautiful this place that bring good tidings of good. To proclaim the acceptance of the Lord.

[Mickiel]

Malachi 2:10 "Have we not all one Father ?Hath not one God created us? Through the generation of Jesus, the son of David
. Seek you first the kingdom of God and his righteousness , make your calling and election sure. And sow the good seed.

[Mickiel]

Salvation is the longing for the inheritance. It is the darling of our future. It is our crowning of our future. A glorious day in heaven. The flower of God's eyes

[marie glen]

As I meditate on the master plan , I know if God has done something, then it could not be done in a better way. I just wonder what he is accomplishing from our suffering?

He's getting something out of it, something with eternal ramifications. Something more good than I can figure.

  How do you create genuinely able to think and reason beings, and kepp paradise/perfection intact? Which part of the package of thinking, is the ability to make choices (thankfully very limited).
   If God is Life itself, and what else could be? And he ?is perfect?, to stray from him in any thought, word or deed, is to become imperfect, opposite of Life. But had he withheld the ability to make choices, thinking and reasoning ability would have to be withheld as well.
    I agree it?s not what he created so much as it is what he is creating. :gsmile:

[Mickiel]

As I meditate on the master plan , I know if God has done something, then it could not be done in a better way. I just wonder what he is accomplishing from our suffering?

He's getting something out of it, something with eternal ramifications. Something more good than I can figure.

  How do you create genuinely able to think and reason beings, and kepp paradise/perfection intact? Which part of the package of thinking, is the ability to make choices (thankfully very limited).
   If God is Life itself, and what else could be? And he ?is perfect?, to stray from him in any thought, word or deed, is to become imperfect, opposite of Life. But had he withheld the ability to make choices, thinking and reasoning ability would have to be withheld as well.
    I agree it?s not what he created so much as it is what he is creating. :gsmile:

Yes he is still creating, not finished. I think the work will continue on into eternity. Being born again is merely the shifting of gears unto a higher gear. An upgrade of spiritual technology. The civilization in the Kingdom is a working kingdom. We have jobs to learn , responsibilities to absorb. A whole new consciousness awaits us. And the best minds in the universe to train us.

[Mickiel]

The best minds in the universe to train us. Matt. 4:11 and the devil Left him and angels came and ministered to him. As we transfigure into the kingdom , angels will minister to us , and we're going to need that because we'll have been through fire trials and all kinds of mess.

[Mickiel]

Angels ministering says a lot. I'm sure they fed Christ food and drink , but ministering is also spiritual , they got him together spiritually. And so with us as we are transfigured into eternity. Some of us will be in shock , other nervous breakdowns. They will have to go into our consciousness and appeal directly to our brain's different sections , and reveal and remove deception.

[darryl]

Salvation is a big deal. Earth's current population is around 7 billion. If we speculate on how many humans have ever lived: we can't. But let's guess between 100 billion on the low end, upwards to 500 billion , who knows? But we're talking about a whole lot of humans.

mind boggling

[Mickiel]

Salvation is a big deal. Earth's current population is around 7 billion. If we speculate on how many humans have ever lived: we can't. But let's guess between 100 billion on the low end, upwards to 500 billion , who knows? But we're talking about a whole lot of humans.

mind boggling

Even more mind boggling is the eternal hell doctrine. If just 100 billion humans are in a lake of fire suffering for eternity , that would be barbaric and insane. One of Jesus teachings is clearly against this. In Matt.24:21 he called the great tribulation the worse thing that could ever happen to humanity or ever will. If this hell doctrine were true, it surely would be the worse thing imaginable, far worse than the tribulation.

[Mickiel]

These hell deceptions are really depressing people, they think we live in a type of hell then die and go to hell. They are blind to the victory of Christ. so they cannot believe in God , they are led to believe nothing. Atheism, the big nothing. Salvation was choked out of their spirit. Churches turn them off. They have been bushwacked by hordes of demons, ganged up on.

Yet none of them are lost, praise God for his reach

[Mickiel]

 Praise God for his salvation. I think so much about God, nothing better to do. I wonder what he thinks of me? I wonder how often he personally addresses the hordes of heaven. What does he say? Know he likes singing , I  wonder if he sings himself. Wonder what he looks like.  In Psalms it says he adorns him self with majesty. A key that he created parts of himself.  I'll show the scripture later .

It says he made himself more beautiful. It almost describes
him like we would describe a woman . Using those terms..  he's lovely. And it uses masculine terms as well
. Without heavenly shielding we look at him and die. Stunning!