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The fear of Eternity

Started by Mickiel, April 18, 2021, 09:02:26 PM

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Mickiel

It's like the sea is eternity in this parable of turtles. Full of mystery and space, sparkling with new creatures that God has made. Christ came out of eternity to appear to the world, Hebrews 9:28, he appeared once to Bear the sins of many and he will appear a second time without sin into Salvation. He was the lamb slain and got us out of the hole and redeemed us to God. And he will take us into the sea of eternity. I have a frigthning kind of joy inside my fear of the sea. I am comforted by the gospel of Christ , for it is the power of God into salvation when eternity shall be revealed, eternity - that sea of the universe.

Mickiel

I remember first hearing the word of truth from Gary at tentmakers site. I believed this new gospel and according to scripture I was sealed. Ephesians 1:13 after hearing the word of truth , the gospel of your salvation; in whom you believed , you were sealed with the holy spirit of promise. My reservation in eternity was secured. I could never forget Tentmaker after that.


Mickiel

Eternity is like the rain, it will fall on mankind. And lovingly on all of humanity. There is no finer gospel than universal salvation , I have examined many of them. Most religions I examined had some kind of hell. A few had God destroying all he condemned. Universal salvation was just unique to me , it was a wonderful way of God forgiving humanity and loving them all , including them all. I kept examining it over and over again, from all angles. The forgiving of all of the most horrible sins was a Grace  that scared me , but it helped explain God better to me, I mean it fits God far better than other gospels. Universal Salvation is best expressed by the fruit of the spirit. It explains love , joy , goodness , kindness , patience and long-suffering. It requires all of that to be true. The fruit of the spirit explains God, it describes him. They are how he lives and rules.

Mickiel


Eternity is substained and ruled by God. Salvation is substained and explains God. Galatians 5: 22-23 ,what we know as the fruit of the spirit , explains God, eternity and salvation. Love , joy ,peace , long-suffering , gentleness , goodness , faith , meekness and temperance are the essential character of God. They are the essential internal organs of universal salvation , they are how God rules and thinks. There are no laws in heaven, the kingdom of God is ruled by these fruit, and read closely the latter part of verse 23, "Against such there is no law."   When the society is living by these fruit it needs no laws. So there are no laws in eternity , it is in total complete peace. God is it's substainer. So salvation was designed by these principles , which are how God concentrates.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on June 22, 2021, 01:29:55 AM

Eternity is substained and ruled by God. Salvation is substained and explains God. Galatians 5: 22-23 ,what we know as the fruit of the spirit , explains God, eternity and salvation. Love , joy ,peace , long-suffering , gentleness , goodness , faith , meekness and temperance are the essential character of God. They are the essential internal organs of universal salvation , they are how God rules and thinks. There are no laws in heaven, the kingdom of God is ruled by these fruit, and read closely the latter part of verse 23, "Against such there is no law."   When the society is living by these fruit it needs no laws. So there are no laws in eternity , it is in total complete peace. God is it's substainer. So salvation was designed by these principles , which are how God concentrates.

For all to be saved , God must love all and desires to be good and gentle to them. This garentees the salvation of all. Imagine standing in court and you are quilty. And the judge you face is patient , long-suffering , kind ,good And is full of joy in his demeanor , your chances are good. And God is faithful in his judgement. When humanity stands before him, they stand before the fruit of the spirit. This is there is no condemnation in heaven, God as ruler and Jesus as the ransom in God's figuring and decided plans. Our chances are perfectly good.

Mickiel

So salvation is as vast as the sea and will engulf all life. All things will be revealed  in its time, even Revelations is an open book. Rev.22:10," And he said to me, seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand." This is not sealed knowledge. It makes no difference what humanity does , their salvation is secure. Rev. 22:11 " He that is unjust , let him be unjust still.and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: he that is righteous , let him be righteous still. He who is holy, be holy still." In other words it makes no difference , the future is predetermined no matter what you do. God is saving both saint and sinner , righteous and unrighteous. The bible is not advising people to sin , it is posting outcome as the importance: the final issue is  Christ is alpha and Omega , the complete cycle of life. The bright and morning Star of salvation.

Mickiel

In the beginning was the word, ( in a beginning/),  the word was with God and the word  was in God,

Mickiel

John 1;4 in him was life, and the life was  the light of men. Vs9 that was the true light which lighteth every man that comes into the world. John 1 :29 behold the lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world. No religion can get those sins back , although they try. In vs 33 you see the holy spirit descending and( Remaining)  , on him. It didn't just visit it remained  on him. Many believers the spirit just visits them and it leaves.

Mickiel

#108
I think the spirit visits me at times, but it does not remain. It would be quite something if it did. When it remains inside of you , then God has gifted you with it. Some have the spirit with them but not in them , there is a difference. It's hard for some believers to discern this correctly. Too much pride can spoil the truth of yourself. When the spirit remains, then you have much power and insight.

There is a spirit in every human, the spirit of life. The spirit that gives you consciousness.. then there is the holy spirit, when that remains in you, you are called and chosen. Converted. But even if the spirit just visits you, you can be fed much knowledge..being born again is being changed from human to spirit, in my view. It means exactly what it. Says, born again you are no longer human but a complete different creature.. oh how this is misunderstood. Again because of pride and ignorance of the truth.

Jesus in John 3: 5-8. He said if your not born of the spirit, you cannot enter into the Kingdom of god, because your still human  he  states in factually that which is born of the flesh, is still flesh. That which is born of the spirit, is a spirit being.  The wind blows where it does, and you cannot tell where it comes from.so it is with those who are born again , you cannot see them, they are invisible to the human eye.  This is a difficult subject because many do not know the difference between being born again and having God's spirit.

God be with you does not mean he is in you. Either is a blessing. But some believers are claiming everything. I fear trying to tell myself things that are not true in this particular subject. We need to ask God's discernment in these matters. The name it claim it syndrome has  run rampant in many believers. Make your calling sure. Know where God has you.

Mickiel

   In Psalms 100 , serve the Lord with gladness ,  Thanksgiving and praise. For the Lord is good, his mercy everlasting , and his truth endureth  to all generations.  Notice all the fruit of the spirit at work here. Our citizens rights in the Kingdom are the fruit of the spirit. God is our salvation , psalm 88:1. His salvation is near and Psalm 85 reveals the way salvation and fruit of the spirit intertwine. All flesh will come to God, Psalm 65: 2.  Remember that when humanity stands before God , they stand before the fruit of the spirit , large scale high powered  goodness , mercy and love. Salvation is free but it stands on the fruit of the spirlit.

Psalm. 111:4 ,"The Lord is gracious and full of compassion. Praise him.

Mickiel

 
I remember that the movie "Stargate ', where you had to walk through a mysterious gateway that sucked you into any part of the universe - a most unusual way to travel in space.  The portal looked like a gate of Water , and they just walked through this gate for destinations on the other side of the in universe. It reminds me of how we will walk into eternity. No sin can get through this portal. You come out on the other side of eternity. Changed in seconds into a spirit being. God has this is thing ready. We will begin eternity with a big bang..

I want to see the 24 elders on God's throne. I want to see his throne and all the angelic beings on it. All the creatures around it. It's going to be awesome baby. And those angels God has restrained in heaven that will wreck havock on earth and kill so many, I just want to see these most frightening angels who are now bound in heaven
Cold blooded killers that will kill billions of humans.. I just sense that God wants this over and done with.
.


Mickiel

In Rev. 15:3-5, the vials of wrath. "The second angel poured out his Vail upon the sea. It became as the blood or a dead man , and every living soul died in the sea. The third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and mountians of water: and they became blood. Interesting these angels , in vs 5, are called The angels of the waters.  It is important to God that the waters be changed for our future use of it. It's used to help purge sin and will be changed into our pure water source. So pure it will have power. Much of Revelations are the stirilizations of the earth and the destruction of it. It is being remodeled. From the inside out. God is avenging the apostles and prophets.

God is serious about salvation. In Rev .19: many people in heaven sang songs ,singing Alleluia; Salvation and glory and honour and power to the Lord God.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on June 23, 2021, 11:46:54 PM
In Rev. 15:3-5, the vials of wrath. "The second angel poured out his Vail upon the sea. It became as the blood or a dead man , and every living soul died in the sea. The third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and mountians of water: and they became blood. Interesting these angels , in vs 5, are called The angels of the waters.  It is important to God that the waters be changed for our future use of it. It's used to help purge sin and will be changed into our pure water source. So pure it will have power. Much of Revelations are the stirilizations of the earth and the destruction of it. It is being remodeled. From the inside out. God is avenging the apostles and prophets.

God is serious about salvation. In Rev .19: many people in heaven sang songs ,singing Alleluia; Salvation and glory and honour and power to the Lord God.
Notice God list salvation first in this monologue. It is most important  to him. We have been ruffed up by
Sin and Satan . Tested and made to suffer.many were turned back
And fell victim to Satan. God has them covered. Millions thrown into his incubator. He will not loose any. The brutal suffering will turn sweet. We not the world will ever question God's wrath again. Nor will we ever view him as well. Salvation had to have this brutal side. No one will ever question if we are safe or will be attacked again. When God sent Jesus to die, he knew he committed himself to put salvation. He was committed to the Earth's renewal. Like a construction crew that destroys a building and yet rebuild on that spot. God will destroy earth with surgical precision
And will create a Paradise
.


Mickiel

In 1Thess. 4/17-then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, so shall we ever be with the Lord. Our eternity begins 💕. Jesus in John 14/2-3, In my Father's house are many mansions if it were not so I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. So Jesus has told us, it is so. We will have a mansion as our home. We won't be living in caves , we will each have a mansion as our own abode . A mansion designed by heavens architects. This is a clue that we will be rich.

The grass will be lawn perfect and green, the trees beatification beyond belief. The very atmosphere fresh and pure. Holy lakes and angelic caretakers. And the best Food we have ever ate. We will have access to the prophets and disciples , all biblical characters. And we will be at perfect peace. Then we can even le?rn things about ourselves and on counseling learn much about our human lives.

Mickiel

Jesus teaching on praying said Thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. God's will is the way of heaven. No laws
Just God's ways. The fruit of the spirit are the ways and means of God. His will is that the lion lay next to the lamb . Not kill him. His way is peace between everyone, we are human and will need lots of God education about the Kingdom. The Kingdom is not new, it's old And ancient , parts of it being remodel for us.

This is a big event in heaven, we will change the whole atmosphere. We will enter heaven having gone through what none else have. Now God will populate heaven with his own.


Mickiel

In Rev.22= 3 , And there shall be no more curse but the throne of God and of the lamb shall be in it, and his servants shall serve him. I like that, we shall serve him. Rev. 21=25, and the gates of the holy city shall never be closed. In verse 15-16 the city measured, it is 1500 miles long, wide and tall. Good grief! 1500 miles high.

Mickiel


The fear of eternity is like the fear of Salvation , humans fearing good things. A phycology we are born exposed to , mostly by religion. One of the hardest things in My conversion was to unlearn lies. Jer. 16:19. We have inherited lies. The fear of hell is Popular pocket toys for babies that grows into monsters. Trojan horses set in every church. The true integrity of God marred by ignorance and insulted by theological idiots.

Mickiel

#117
In my fear of Salvation ,  I had a racist fear. I was taught all The biblical characters were white , that Jesus was white ,even God was white. No black representation anywhere. I was angry at that and used to ask God why? But being fed more truth calmed my fears. Satan can feed on any fear.

Mickiel


Religion even taught me to fear certain foods until truth saved me from those.

Mickiel



Jesus was offered power and all the kingdoms of the world in place of salvation , he waved Satan off. Much has happened for our salvation,  cherish it with all you heart.

Mickiel

Isn't it unusual, we are waiting to live forever. What do we pack for. Such a Trip?

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on June 27, 2021, 06:38:34 AM
Isn't it unusual, we are waiting to live forever. What do we pack for. Such a Trip?

We brought nothing into this world and we will go into our salvation with the beginning of a renewed consciousness into eternity. Eye has not seen neither can we imagine what awaits us in the Kingdom. Our hope is magnifying.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on June 27, 2021, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: Mickiel on June 27, 2021, 06:38:34 AM
Isn't it unusual, we are waiting to live forever. What do we pack for. Such a Trip?

We brought nothing into this world and we will go into our salvation with the beginning of a renewed consciousness into eternity. Eye has not seen neither can we imagine what awaits us in the Kingdom. Our hope is magnifying.

But the nothing that the scientist claims brought is into existence is raw deception , we did not come from nothing. Something cannot bring itself into existence , since it must exist to bring itself into existence. Our origin is the consciousness of God. He perceived us. It's impossible for anything to exist unperceived.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on June 28, 2021, 04:10:55 AM
Quote from: Mickiel on June 27, 2021, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: Mickiel on June 27, 2021, 06:38:34 AM
Isn't it unusual, we are waiting to live forever. What do we pack for. Such a Trip?

We brought nothing into this world and we will go into our salvation with the beginning of a renewed consciousness into eternity. Eye has not seen neither can we imagine what awaits us in the Kingdom. Our hope is magnifying.

But the nothing that the scientist claims brought is into existence is raw deception , we did not come from nothing. Something cannot bring itself into existence , since it must exist to bring itself into existence. Our origin is the consciousness of God. He perceived us. It's impossible for anything to exist unperceived.

As God gave it to Adam to name all animals , in John 1:3 he gave to Christ to create all things , " All things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made."  He perceived all things , Col. 1:17.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on June 28, 2021, 04:34:35 AM
Quote from: Mickiel on June 28, 2021, 04:10:55 AM
Quote from: Mickiel on June 27, 2021, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: Mickiel on June 27, 2021, 06:38:34 AM
Isn't it unusual, we are waiting to live forever. What do we pack for. Such a Trip?

We brought nothing into this world and we will go into our salvation with the beginning of a renewed consciousness into eternity. Eye has not seen neither can we imagine what awaits us in the Kingdom. Our hope is magnifying.

But the nothing that the scientist claims brought is into existence is raw deception , we did not come from nothing. Something cannot bring itself into existence , since it must exist to bring itself into existence. Our origin is the consciousness of God. He perceived us. It's impossible for anything to exist unperceived.

As God gave it to Adam to name all animals , in John 1:3 he gave to Christ to create all things , " All things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made."  He perceived all things , Col. 1:17.

This is how Christ is all and in all.