Prophecy

[redhotmagma]

No thats not my position, but what he says about Shoebats conclusions and how he came to them I agree with.   Molly its not that I don't see Islam as part of the beast system.  Its that I think this "evidence" is very faulty. 

There are only 2 religions.  "in Spirit and Truth" and all else, which is a product of the beast nature of man.  The imaginations of men.   :2c:

[ded2daworld]

I thought the only 2 religions were 1.) you reaching up and following mans rules to get close to God (DO)and
2.) God reaching down and doing for you what you can't do for yourself bringing you close to Him(DONE)

[sheila]

IMO, yes, it is an enigma[mystery]..man created in the image of God,found to have a marr[mark of beast in it]

  even the mystery of godlessness[void of spirit of God/another spirit/evil] and godliness[spirit of God/good

  Holy]   and as we have bore the image of the corrupt one[godlessness/mark of beast] so,too shall we all

  bear the image of the incorruptible one.

   one is from above/last Adam quickening spirit...one is from below/earthly, devilish sensual..

   Gen 4;7 if you do what is right,will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right,sin is crouching

at your door[like a beast ready to devour?] IT DESIRES TO HAVE YOU.....BUT YOU  MUST MASTER IT!

...then the Lord put a mark on Cain..so that no-one who found him..would kill him.........Rev 13;8  ALL inhabitants

of the earth will worship the beast[corruptible image/old Adam that must die/sin in flesh condemned]

    ......God makes of the same lump..one vessel fitted for destruction[sin in flesh/marred/mark]

and another vessel for noble use....show forth His grace and mercy..even in the midst of His righteous judgement.

     Ecc 3;18  I also thought,as for men,God tests them so that they may see they are like the beasts

  all go to the same place,all come from dust,and to dust all return[speaking of the nature of the beast born

from below,sensual,devilish] For from dust you were taken and unto dust ye shall return

   You must be born again from Above[in the image of the son of God/not some beast] and you must return

unto your Father and my Father..

  two very distinct diverse creations...one old...one new....of one is our death and of one is our eternal life.

     for the creature was subjected to vanity,not of it's own will,but by the will of Him who subjected it...

  in order that the whole creation could be set free into the glorious liberty[you must rule over it] of

   THE SONS OF GOD..

  now as there is many members but one body in the spiritual body of Christ..the new man...so,too the old adam

man of sin has it's spiritual body and head[prince of this world] and kingdom of darkness and form of religion

and lying prophets and corrupt worldly arrangements.

   so, there have been many anti-christs,beasts,false prophets,devils/liars raised up in the image and likeness

of the corrupt one since the beginning...coming up out of the sea and the earth..and manifesting in the

masses of mankind in the corrupt image.  BUT THE SAME SPIRIT IS IN ALL THE MANIFESTATIONS..

  Prince of this world,False prophet,beastly nature.........in greed,maliceand,coveting dominion..it seeks to

rule over the earth and sit as god.   and many are the masses blinded by the god of this world.

  thus wars and desolations shall continue until the end....and he will pitch his royal tents between

the seas at the beautiful holy mountain.YET HE WILL COME TO HIS END AND NO-ONE WILL HELP HIM

[sheila]

IMO, the old name..is not written in the Lambs book of life..for those who received the 'mark' can not live....but

the NEW creature can..and it receives the NEW name.  this principle was shown as saul/Paul and Jesus

further revealed it in Rev 2;17  I will also give him a white stone[a place prepared in the fallen temple of His body

as He raises it up into the heavens] WITH A NEW NAME WRITTEN ON IT,KNOWN ONLY TO HIM WHO RECEIVES IT.

   a new creature,a new name, a new nature...I make ALL THINGS NEW.

[Molly]

man of sin has it's spiritual body and head[prince of this world] and kingdom of darkness and form of religion

Prince of this world,False prophet,beastly nature.........in greed,maliceand,coveting dominion..it seeks to

rule over the earth and sit as god.   and many are the masses blinded by the god of this world.

Sheila, you seem to be talking somewhat in generalities, but just to clarify, could you agree that the god of this world is a spiritual entity called Satan?  And, that at the end of the age he will indwell a man bodily, just as Jesus was  the fulness of the Godhead bodily?  Because everything that God does, Satan mimics and counterfeits, to deceive those who will not accept the truth.

I see the world to date as being 'his story,' the story of Satan, not man, in the affairs of men.

In the next age, IMO, it will be the story of Christ in the affairs of men.

In particular, when I started reading in the Bible that Israel will be surrounded by and invaded by a hostile army at the end of the age[which unlike others, I read literally], I realized this will be the culminating chapter of 'his story.'

[sheila]

well,Molly....IMO, he already did..when he entered Judas body....and there are many Judas Priests to this day..

who betray Christ for mamon.  No doubt,Satan and his offspring are in high positions,we have but to look

at one of the temptations of Christ,to see that.Many men have sold their soul to the devil for fame fortune

power. But I actually believe he walks in men..as God's Holy spirit dwells and walks in men. In Job,he

speaks to God about  roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it.. seeking who he may devour problably

  God then asked if he had considered His servant Job? So,ultimately satan is more concerned with the trying of th

e righteous...and when he rises up a kingdom/government/religious entity..it is to try and make it hard on those

who are God's in truth.. For this reason I have said..is it any wonder that at the birth of the manchild that a dragon

is ready to devour it?  same as at Jesus birth with Herod and the mass slaughter of male children in Bethleham.

   So,he worked through 3 wise men,unwittingly,Herod,Pharisee's sadducees,High Priest,Judas,Pilate

Roman nation etc..to get the job done.

        the hour of trial shall come upon the entire inhabited earth..the hour of darkness. Rev 3;10 since you have

kept my command to endure patiently,I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon

the entire world to test those who live on the earth.

    I also,see the muslim terrorist theme of worldly domination and Islam  onweworld religion as a great dark

cloud coming up over the land.  But I feel the same with NWO with one government/merchants........

   Ezekiel 38;9 you will be like a cloud covering the land...look how God deals with it..every man's hand

and sword against his brother[satan divided  against himself..his house can not stand]..on the mountains

of Israel you will fall...I will send fire on Magog..........

  so,while I agree in principle,satan may inhabit a specific person........every man's hand against his brother

   is how he will fall...for the attempt at union to surround the camp of the Holy city..resultsin this.

  and even Ishmael as a wild ass of a man with his hand againsteveryone and everyone's hand against him

and he will live in hostility towards all his brothers..  one has but to look at all the wars ever fought on this earth

to recognize 'Ishmael' the one born after the manner of flesh/from the one born of the spirit/Jerusalem/peace.

I have known some 'wildass men' in my time..and they didn't come from the ME. They want to posess,

they want to control,they want to use,they stir up strife,faultfind,backbite,hate,rob,kill,cheat,lack all sense

of morals.  and this all here in sw Indiana...    and so..the one borne after the manner of flesh[from below]

persecutes the one borne of the promise[from above]  and the enmity between the seeds/the warring

will continue........the serpents seed will bruise the woman's seed in the heel..and the womans seed

will crush the head of the serpent. And man..which bears the image of them both[in the flesh] will

wrestle not flesh and blood..but principalities and powers in high places...

    Holywood has made many movies[Omen etc] on the mistaken premise that satan would be born of a woman

  or dog?  satan is death..and that is all he can give..to infect like a parasite something already alive..and

bring death to it.  GOD'S SPIRIT IS LIFE..the Contrast spirit is death...thus death's head is crushed beneath

the heel of the promised seed of eternal life...

[lomarah]

Wow Sheila!!!

Awesome stuff!!!

[sheila]

cannabalism increasing worldwide...from zombie attacks,to father killing and eating children in North Korea..

  to christians and muslims killing and eating one another in Nigeria[Jos]........

[lomarah]

Say whaaaa??

Zombie attacks? Metaphorically speaking of... ? Did a father literally eat his kids or is that also a metaphor? (If I watched or read the news would it make more sense lol??)

[sheila]

literal flesh eating,Lomarah..type in using google chrome search. Christians roast and eat muslims in Jos,Nigeria

   best I can tell the 'christians cook theirs' .

  a north korean father literally ate his children. then there is the crazed mad zombie like attacks..also

a recent one in China. Signs of the times.? demonic maddness......

[lomarah]

 :eek:


That is WHACKED OUT!

[sheila]

i know :sigh:..

[Molly]

Say whaaaa??

Zombie attacks? Metaphorically speaking of... ? Did a father literally eat his kids or is that also a metaphor? (If I watched or read the news would it make more sense lol??)

In Miami, no less.

If you watched or read the news, it would make no sense.

That's because it makes no sense.  Zombies?

[That Sheila doesn't miss a trick, though.]

[lomarah]

Sheila had said Father told her it was getting painful up there... goodness I can't imagine. :( :( :(

[Molly]

Does anyone here believe that Jesus might be returning in 2015-2016 Jubilee [besides me]?


When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

--Luke 21:28



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLMgq_-x1ws



But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power.

--2 Tim 3

[ded2daworld]

and the latest... Gays don't like what the Bible has to say about the lifestyle so they are coming out with their somewhat modified version of the scripture to make it seem like God thinks it's not really a bad sin, kinda like a white lie i guess.
Oh... the name of their "bible?"

The Queen James Version.... seriously. They think it was appropriate cause king James may have been referred to as queen James because he is alleged to have a homosexual bent.

[sheila]

  In her heart she boasts,I sit as Queen..I am not a widow, and I will never mourn........


.....God will save all men...and make all things NEW....and these new creatures will be sons in His image.

[micah7:9]

I am by no means denying that homosexuality is wrong, or all that what is happening today in the world is not terrible and scary, but hasn't what is happening and homosexuality been around
and has risen it's ugly head to cause this same speak at different times in the generations? Paul spoke of it....but who is the cause? And does not the Lord work it all out for good? I was given to stop
giving myself to the worries and troubles that arise in my personal life as well as in the world, to look to Him and the Good. What is happening in the world and the concerns in my personal
life drove me crazy with anxiety, until I came to know all this will be, and I, me, am totally helpless to do anything save trust in Him and know that He will bring it to HIS end. Have faith. :HeartThrob:

Jas 1:3  Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
Jas 1:4  But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.


Rom 1:24  Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25  Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27  And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29  Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30  Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

[dajomaco]

30.6% obesity USA population.

These stats for obesity actually paint a picture that is better than reality. If you leave children out of the numbers, the percentage of obese adults is somewhat higher, and the percentage of overweight adults is considerably higher.

One of the major factors contributing to this is poor nutrition (particularly the high availability of cheap junk food and pervasiveness of high fructose corn syrup), and there is a good chance that this is also a factor in the high rates of mental illness, crime, and mass shootings in the US.

I cut the above a National Statistic .
These Gluttons refuse to call sin sin,for even the slightest mention of Fat people
stirs there radical agenda.
These Fat people are the number one cause of Death with our children.
I heard that when you go to there church they take your kids down stairs.
They then feed them juice and cookies.
The Fact that more children will die of Gluttony than ever before must be a sign
of something that is going to get worse .We must stop these people.
When we let them get Married it only makes the problem worse 

[Molly]

Luke 21:31 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.


What are 'these things'?   These things are all the events mentioned in Luke 21 and Mat 24. In Mathew 24, Jesus points us to the book of Daniel and the time of Jacob's trouble, the great Tribulation.


"I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
--Luke 21:32



Who is 'this generation'?


"this generation" is the generation that sees the rebirth of Israel in the land.  This is that generation that will not pass until all is fulfilled.  We are this generation.  We are the final generation of this age.


"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.

--Mat 24:32




What is the fig tree?  The nation of Israel is the fig tree.




[Hosea 9:10] "When I found Israel, it was like finding grapes in the desert; when I saw your fathers, it was like seeing the early fruit on the fig tree."



the Lord showed me two baskets of figs placed in front of the temple of the Lord. 2 One basket had very good figs, like those that ripen early; the other basket had very bad figs, so bad they could not be eaten. [Jer 24]


"Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah."6 My eyes will watch over them for their good, and I will bring them back to this land.
(Jer. 24:5, 6).


In the latter days, he will return Israel to its land. Then shall the nations of the earth come against her and the rage will come up in his face and he will fight for Israel.


Then the nations will know that I the LORD make Israel holy, when my sanctuary is among them forever.'" [Eze 37:28]

[lomarah]

Does anyone here believe that Jesus might be returning in 2015-2016 Jubilee [besides me]?


When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

--Luke 21:28



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLMgq_-x1ws



But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power.

--2 Tim 3

I know that WW thinks it's a possibility that the end will come  that year.

[lunarabbit]

I've been hearing things about the Jubilee this year. Can anyone explain how we know that's when the Jubilee is? Thanks.

[Molly]

I've been hearing things about the Jubilee this year. Can anyone explain how we know that's when the Jubilee is? Thanks.

Here's one explanation.  I'm not saying he's right, but the Jews call  1966-1967 a Jubilee year so the 6 day war when they recaptured Jerusalem happened in  a Jubilee year.  That makes 2015-2016 the next, and many say, the last, Jubilee year.


2015--the 70th Jubilee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKCeY4ntS6E




Here's another explanation.  This is a longer video but well worth watching.


Daniel's Timeline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czHNJHmkgr0

[eaglesway]

Jesus is my Jubilee :o)

All debts forgiven, All slaves set free, Every inheritance restored, No work allowed, Yea, That is the acceptable year of the Lord!

[micah7:9]

YEAH! :dsunny: