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micah7:9

Who was speaking  in Gen 1:3  and God saith, `Let light be;' and light is.  It was not the Father.
Joh 5:37 And the Father Who sends Me, He has testified concerning Me. Neither have you ever heard His voice nor a perception of Him have you seen."

Molly



micah7:9

What does that mean? "The Word before flesh??


jabcat

The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2


WhiteWings

Quote from: micah7:9 on August 04, 2011, 05:34:24 AM
Who was speaking  in Gen 1:3  and God saith, `Let light be;' and light is.  It was not the Father.
Joh 5:37 And the Father Who sends Me, He has testified concerning Me. Neither have you ever heard His voice nor a perception of Him have you seen."

ACVGen 1
3 And God said, Let there be light, and there was light.
4 And God saw את the light, that it was good. And God divided the light from the darkness.


אלהים
'ĕlôhı̂ym

BDB Definition:
1) (plural)
1a) rulers, judges
1b) divine ones
1c) angels
1d) gods

2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)
2a) god, goddess
2b) godlike one
2c) works or special possessions of God
2d) the (true) God
2e) God



ACVJob 38
4 Where were thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou have understanding.
5 Who determined the measures of it, if thou know? Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 Upon what were the foundations of it fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone of it
7 when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

(In My making a cloud its clothing, And thick darkness its swaddling band)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

micah7:9

#8
ACVJob 38
4 Where were thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?  Yes a question where was Job when the foundation was layed? Did job give an answer, no. God said "Declare, if thou hast known understanding.


Beloved Servant has spoken the truth......Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God;

micah7:9

Quote from: Molly on August 04, 2011, 05:48:55 AM
Elohiym.

"...Neither have you ever heard His voice nor a perception of Him have you seen."

WhiteWings

Quote from: micah7:9 on August 04, 2011, 10:57:06 AM
Quote from: Molly on August 04, 2011, 05:48:55 AM
Elohiym.

"...Neither have you ever heard His voice nor a perception of Him have you seen."
Elohiym is plural...
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

micah7:9


WhiteWings

Pfewww.... :winkgrin:

If you agree with that I don't understand your reply to Molly's post.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: WhiteWings on August 04, 2011, 11:15:39 AM
Quote from: micah7:9 on August 04, 2011, 10:57:06 AM
Quote from: Molly on August 04, 2011, 05:48:55 AM
Elohiym.

"...Neither have you ever heard His voice nor a perception of Him have you seen."
Elohiym is plural...
So is the trinity.
So is the divine council.
divine ones

And Y'hovah elohiym said, Behold the man has become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever....
--Gen 3

micah7:9

Quote from: WhiteWings on August 04, 2011, 12:11:11 PM
Pfewww.... :winkgrin:

If you agree with that I don't understand your reply to Molly's post.

Her post is not in tune with the word of God.

Molly

 4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

5For elohiym doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as elohiym, knowing good and evil.

--Gen 3


You have to admit it sounded good.  Elohiym are immortal.

Molly

Quote from: micah7:9 on August 04, 2011, 12:18:45 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on August 04, 2011, 12:11:11 PM
Pfewww.... :winkgrin:

If you agree with that I don't understand your reply to Molly's post.

Her post is not in tune with the word of God.
It's in tune with the Bible.

micah7:9

Who was speaking  in Gen 1:3  and God saith, `Let light be;' and light is.  It was not the Father.
Joh 5:37 And the Father Who sends Me, He has testified concerning Me. Neither have you ever heard His voice nor a perception of Him have you seen."

Why do you say elohiem?

Molly

Quote from: micah7:9 on August 04, 2011, 10:57:06 AM
Quote from: Molly on August 04, 2011, 05:48:55 AM
Elohiym.

"...Neither have you ever heard His voice nor a perception of Him have you seen."

Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
--John 14:9

micah7:9

So  Who was speaking  in Gen 1:3  and God saith, `Let light be;' and light is.?

Molly

What's the difference between Y'hovah elohiym and Y'shuah elohiym?   Man.

Molly

Quote from: micah7:9 on August 04, 2011, 12:36:48 PM
So  Who was speaking  in Gen 1:3  and God saith, `Let light be;' and light is.?
elohiym.

WhiteWings

Quote from: micah7:9 on August 04, 2011, 12:22:10 PM
Who was speaking  in Gen 1:3  and God saith, `Let light be;' and light is.  It was not the Father.
Joh 5:37 And the Father Who sends Me, He has testified concerning Me. Neither have you ever heard His voice nor a perception of Him have you seen."

Why do you say elohiem?
It was plural. So it was a whole group (Elohiym)
Could it be the morning stars/sons of God?

ACVJob 38
4 Where were thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou have understanding.
5 Who determined the measures of it, if thou know? Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 Upon what were the foundations of it fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone of it
7 when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: WhiteWings on August 04, 2011, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: micah7:9 on August 04, 2011, 12:22:10 PM
Who was speaking  in Gen 1:3  and God saith, `Let light be;' and light is.  It was not the Father.
Joh 5:37 And the Father Who sends Me, He has testified concerning Me. Neither have you ever heard His voice nor a perception of Him have you seen."

Why do you say elohiem?
It was plural. So it was a whole group (Elohiym)
Could it be the morning stars/sons of God?

ACVJob 38
4 Where were thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou have understanding.
5 Who determined the measures of it, if thou know? Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 Upon what were the foundations of it fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone of it
7 when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
They were all in agreement.  But, creation happened through Jesus,

15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
--Col 1

WhiteWings

Quote from: Molly on August 04, 2011, 12:44:49 PM
They were all in agreement.  But, creation happened through Jesus,
It's even possible Jesus also spoke  those words together with the rest of the group.


BTW this sorta refutes pre-existance....
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...