Let there be light

[Molly]

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
-- Romans 7:4

[Beloved Servant]

Dead to the law; married to Christ. Amen.

Paul fits it neatly in one sentence.

[Molly]

Dead to the law; married to Christ. Amen.

Paul fits it neatly in one sentence.

Yes and married to another means married to heteros--a different type--in our case, married to the Spirit of Christ.

"another"

G2087
ἕτερος
heteros
het'-er-os
Of uncertain affinity; (an-, the) other or different: - altered, else, next (day), one, (an-) other, some, strange.


There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

--Rom 8

[micah7:9]

The coming of the Paraclete implies an unbroken continuity of the coming of Jesus.

He came; He continued to come; He comes; He continues to come; He will come; and He will continue to come!

The only point is that the form of coming has changed, the personal coming being replaced by the pneumatic (spiritual).

Amen   :thumbsup:

[Beloved Servant]

Praise God, Micah. He is so good to us.

[Beloved Servant]

Dead to the law; married to Christ. Amen.

Paul fits it neatly in one sentence.

Yes and married to another means married to heteros--a different type--in our case, married to the Spirit of Christ.

"another"

G2087
ἕτερος
heteros
het'-er-os
Of uncertain affinity; (an-, the) other or different: - altered, else, next (day), one, (an-) other, some, strange.


There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

--Rom 8

Yes, for some, I suppose that needs to be said.
Perhaps there are those that think they will be marrying the one man Jesus in the flesh.
Even carnal knowledge, though, couldn't process that idea.

[eaglesway]

I believe it is personal and spiritual.... we eagerly await our adoption as sons, even the redemption of our bodies- even as Jesus was declared the Son of God by the resurrection of the dead..... "for you see a spirit has not flesh and bone as I do" was Jesus' own words after His resurrection, as well as "do not touch me yet for I have not yet been glorified." He ate fish and walked through walls LOL.  It does not trouble me that someone does not understand this. It does trouble me that someone belittles another's understanding as if it were ridiculous, when there is scriptural support for it, as if anyone has the full understanding. I don't believe we are going to "prance around on the earth" in glorified bodies. I believe we are going to be priests of God and begin in earnest the "setting free of the entire creation into the glorious liberty of the sons of God" and the "restitution of all things".

I find it almost hilarious that in some areas some of us agree strongly - then on other things we disagree and agree with the person we formerly disagreed strongly with(and if you can figure that out you are a candidate for a merit raise ;o)

But I know all of you are my fellow living stones, in this wide house where every vessel will be purged!

[Beloved Servant]

I believe we are going to be priests of God and begin in earnest the "setting free of the entire creation into the glorious liberty of the sons of God" and the "restitution of all things".

That's when the battle begins.

[micah7:9]

"But I know all of you are my fellow living stones, in this wide house where every vessel will be purged!" Eaglesway

Amen! Glory glory GLORY!

I dont know about the walking through walls, that is our earthy understanding, but Jesus did not have to walk through walls, HE APPEARS, in our midst and He APPEARS in those who have been healed of our blindness. I with all my reasoning understand that as long as we attempt to understand spirit with and in our earthy natural thinking, we are lost. It means to understand that when we repent we have a change of mind...Mind  G3563 nous  the intellect, that is, mind (divine or human; in thought, feeling, or will); by implication meaning: - mind, understanding.

Repent G3340 metanoeō  to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider (morally to feel compunction): - repent.

Isa 55:8  For not My thoughts are your thoughts, Nor your ways My ways, --an affirmation of Jehovah,

This is the goal that those with ears to hear must become in tuned to, His thoughts are those that nullify all those thoughts that we have in this earthy realm.
Heb 3:15  seeing that the warning still comes to us, "TO-DAY, IF YOU HEAR HIS VOICE, DO NOT HARDEN YOUR HEARTS AS YOUR FOREFATHERS DID IN THE TIME OF THE PROVOCATION (irritation G3894)."

Joh 17:16  `Of the world they are not, as I of the world am not;

Should those who hear and believe To Day, need get our thoughts and thinking [our mind] out of the world(kosmos) or wilderness and Babylon.............. and believe I AM in spirit and truth.

This is spirit.....Joh 20:26  And after eight days, again were his disciples within, and Thomas with them; Jesus cometh, the doors having been shut, and he stood in the midst, and said, `Peace to you!'

[Beloved Servant]

Peace to you too, Micah.

[eaglesway]

I am sure whatever Jesus did when He disappeared from the midst of them was more sophisticated than walking through walls- but I have this image of Him disappearing, and a piece of fish falling onto the plate.....or walking through the wall and lthe piece of fish from His hand sticking to the inside of the wall as He passes through.   



I know...... pray for me :laughing7:

[Beloved Servant]

They gave Him broiled fish,

(man through the fire is God's savor)

and, taking it, He ate before them.

[sheila]

   to those in the wilderness camp.....Joshua 7;20     when I saw in the plunder a beautiful robe from Babylonia,two hundered shekels of silver

  and a wedge of gold weighing fifty shekels,I coveted them and took them. THEY ARE HIDDEN IN THE GROUND INSIDE MY TENT...

    then Joshua,togather with all of Israel,tookAchan and all that he had.....to the valley of ACHOR[time of Jacob's trouble]

   Now this is a real concern for the called out ones....starting out in spirit..are you to be perfected in flesh?

   Luke 20;46  Beware of the teachers of the law,they like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted in the marketplaces,

  and have the most important seats in the synagogue's[beware gog's crowd,children] and the places of honour at the banquets[Lamb's marriage supper]

    This is a real spiritual danger....those that are changed are last...the dead in Christ are already preceded them[grape harvest]  who are you going to preach to?

   you would be preaching to the choir....but you will join the choir in singing His praises eternally.

[sheila]

re;broilde fish....your break fast is ready for you.......to always dwell with the Lord

[sheila]

 Alright,this is an attempt to restore the 'breach' in misunderstandings. I beleive what started it all was my saying Jesus was an archangel in heaven....

  and that the twelve archangels had their exercize in good/evil up there. This was questioned,due to the 'word' was with God..and through the son was all creation made

    I 'countered' that with a post about the 'word' and centered on the 'power' of it..and not so much the 'son' aspect of it.

   now, the 'word' was with God in the beginning...the power of that 'word' is incorruptible life. Now, through the son was all things created..First the heavens,then

  the earth [both visible and invisible]

  and the word come in the form of an archangel there[firstborn son of heaven/only begotton]...as it come in the form of man here[firstborn of dead]


  Now, I did not fully appreciate the understanding of  "by the son,of whom was all things created" and focused on the word and power..and could not see at that time

  how with the reconciling of both 'veiws' a fuller understanding comes forth. When we  go on the attack of something that someone puts forth....

  then the one feeling 'attacked' feels he must defend.. communication breaks down. we must not devour one another[flesh] but the 'word of God'

This refining is too important to let anything get in the way of it.


   Now, I apoligize for the 'prancing' comment...I am sure it offended...but I became offended also when the cry 'anethema' rang out so, I think we can safely say

  more than one of us felt a little deGoded by what went on

   Now, you can see through the scriptures the battle with satan and  war in heaven[good evil exercize]..and even Michael saying the LORD rebuke you...and him[satan]

    being cast out  and not prevailing against Michael and his angels/AND YOU CAN KNOW THAT THE FIRSTBORN SON/ONLY BEGOTTON HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT


   an olive branch to you all..with a dove perched on it :bigGrin:

[sheila]

Dan 11;35

   when they fall they will receive a little help......