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Mickiel

#426
Quote from: ed on September 15, 2021, 05:40:42 AM
Quote from: Mickiel on September 13, 2021, 12:16:00 AM
And he's going to show them their salvation

Bottom line.

God knows how to heal fears, Psalms 91:16,"With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation." God will both lead them , teach them the ways and means of his salvation. In Isaiah 12:2, "Behold , God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid." So God slowly  works with baffled believers and teaches them way of salvation, in the Roman era believers called themselves '. The Way".  The healing way for everyone. The disciples loved this way , and many of them lost that first love. And some just outright left this first love, Rev.2:4 , 1John 3:11.

God gave them that first love and understanding. That's why it was so strong , so as to start churches in major city's.  So the bottom line is a working awareness of the true salvation. God will free them from the stain of guilt and a heavy consciousness unto the freedom that is in Christ. satan finds this difficult to disrupt, the
Believer forces him to a different route, which is what we want, Satan on the run , and the believer getting out of trouble, Psalms  138:7,"Though I walk in the midst of trouble, you will revive me". Your hand will save me.
This is making a big bank deposit and the account will never close. We can freely rejoice in the God of our salvation.

Mickiel

#427
Look at this closer in Psalms 138:7, I am in trouble , you will revive me. Another bottom line is that sin will get you in trouble.  Sin will confuse you, it can deceived you, in it can drain you to dry. It's drive is so hard, it can make you do all these things to yourself. It can cover your consciousness like a thick blanket so you cannot see God. Satan looks to block or sever the connection with God and Christ. He will drown you by snatching you and taking you deep into  the waters of true knowledge you have walked away from.

Choke that knowledge and rip it from you. When he throws you back to dry land, not being allowed to kill you at that time, he looks to render you helpless to others. He leaves you there like a dead fish , not realizing that is the kind of fish, or sheep, that Christ is searching for. Luke 19:10 Jesus said he came to seek and save that which was lost. We all are lost, Romans 3:23, we all need salvation, universal salvation is then academic

Mickiel

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Quote from: Mickiel on September 15, 2021, 10:20:54 AM
Look at this closer in Psalms 138:7, I am in trouble , you will revive me. Another bottom line is that sin will get you in trouble.  Sin will confuse you, it can deceived you, in it can drain you to dry. It's drive is so hard, it can make you do all these things to yourself. It can cover your consciousness like a thick blanket so you cannot see God. Satan looks to block or sever the connection with God and Christ. He will drown you by snatching you and taking you deep into  the waters of true knowledge you have walked away from.

Choke that knowledge and rip it from you. When he throws you back to dry land, not being allowed to kill you at that time, he looks to render you helpless to others. He leaves you there like a dead fish , not realizing that is the kind of fish, or sheep, that Christ is searching for. Luke 19:10 Jesus said he came to seek and save that which was lost. We all are lost, Romans 3:23, we all need salvation, universal salvation is then academic.
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To spread it ,to have it but not to hold it. To accept it. To Bear witness to it. In Hosea 3:6," My people are
"Destroyed" for lack of knowledge, the state of being without or not having enough of it. A tragic story of not accepting certain knowledge ,  yet because of rejecting true knowledge  God said he will reject you. Nobody wants to be ejected by God , so we need to get caught up in this and struggle  with it especially with our memory . In the later part of verse 6, God laments that seeing you have forgotten his law , he will forget your
children. Nobody in their right mind would want their children forgotten. So we need to pray for good spiritual memory. In Rev. 2:4 remember how the church at Ephesus "Left", their first love. Both the new truths they were leaning and I believe the universal applications of them. A universal remedy for an entire world of sinners and unbelievers. When a believer learns these two aspects of the spiritual law , they are filled with great joy. God will not reject what he has already accepted., And he is able to keep you from falling, " and present you faultless in his mighty presence.


Mickiel

Quote from: ed on September 15, 2021, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: Mickiel on September 15, 2021, 09:52:04 AM
Quote from: ed on September 15, 2021, 05:40:42 AM
Quote from: Mickiel on September 13, 2021, 12:16:00 AM
And he's going to show them their salvation

Bottom line.

God knows how to heal fears

Amen


In Psalms 23:4 , Even though I walk through the valley  of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil  for you are with me, your rod and staff they comfort me. These are weapons , the Lord is my light and  salvation , Psalms 27:1. God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self control.  A well rounded person will be the result of this tribulation. Cut from a rough rag ready to help self and others.

The Lord is the stronghold of our lives , that Is the foundation you want to have.

Ross

HIS love NEVER fails.
Unfortunately the finite cannot fully grasp the infinite.
The true definition of love removes the fear of rejection.
Thanks to Jesus we are children of God- not slaves.
Fellow brother in Christ

Mickiel

Quote from: Ross on September 16, 2021, 04:53:12 AM
HIS love NEVER fails.
Unfortunately the finite cannot fully grasp the infinite.
The true definition of love removes the fear of rejection.
Thanks to Jesus we are children of God- not slaves.

You can  make it through the  valley of death , not to fear because God is with us .He will comfort us all. Yet even when we might have reasons to be afraid, we do not need to fear , he will take care of us. Like a Shepherd, he knows what he is doing and has our best interest in mind.He will protect  us and take care of us. Like a good shepherd. He knows our needs.

Mickiel


At times hell motivates itself , which is one reasons it's so  powerfull. . Like a giant snowball rolling down hill , it's picking people up as it rolls through history. Humanity has been targeted and Satan and his demons are protecting this movement. They are streaming people , churches, and groups. Always offering the religion's more incentive rewards.

Mickiel


In Matt.16:18 Jesus said he will build his church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. The word "church," means the called out ones. Called out of the world by Christ. Back then the gates of hell was associated with the gates of hades or the realm of the dead. This just naturally blew fear into people , but Jesus  prophecy also included that hell and death has  no power to hold God's people captive . The Lord had conquered death, Rom.8:2, 6:9, and Acts 2:24. Satan knows that he can not really win, but he also knows he can cause confusion and corruption , which he loves doing anyway. He can make things appear to be, that are not. Twist the truth and send out illusion after illusion. People who built their belief on shaky ground are easily up rooted. So the question now is the church on defense or offence?

Mickiel

Well with websites like Tentmaker the church is on the offence. We're not waiting to be attacked. I have no church anywhere near me that I know of, but I pray for God's people where ever they may be scattered about. Our view of salvation is from the bottom up, heavens view is from the top down. We must view salvation In Weakness , the progenitors of salvation view it from dazzling strength.  God knows  were really helpless without him. It's no telling what's going on in the spirit world as Satan's wrath roars over his defeat , Jesus made quick work out of Satan. And he was in a weakened state of flesh when he crushed him.

Mickiel

Salvation trump's hell in reality. It has already won the battle it's just being played out. Satan knows this all to well, he's just being spiteful and hateful, because that's how he is. He is very jealous of us because he feels he should be treated like we are. He wants human worship and loves human suffering.In Job 1:12  God grants access to Job. Satan immediately kills all the servants and the sheep. Then he kills all of Jobs children. He did this out of pure evil.

Mickiel

Quote from: Mickiel on September 17, 2021, 09:21:38 AM
Salvation trump's hell in reality. It has already won the battle it's just being played out. Satan knows this all to well, he's just being spiteful and hateful, because that's how he is. He is very jealous of us because he feels he should be treated like we are. He wants human worship and loves human suffering.In Job 1:12  God grants access to Job. Satan immediately kills all the servants and the sheep. Then he kills all of Jobs children. He did this out of pure evil.

The battle of salvation versus  hell is really an illusion: it's a mismatched precorded fight.  In James 2:13 is a very important biblical lesson "Mercy triumphs over judgment. ". Or one could say mercy rejoices over judgement. Mercy is a joy of God. Mercy and salvation fuel the warplanes of our attack on evil unleashed.  We swoop in and drop the gospel of Christ for it  is the power of God unto salvation , Romans 1:16. This is why we should help in this battle, do what we can. In Romans 1 :18 ", For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,"  Who "HOLD" the truth in unrighteousness."  Holding it to themselves among themselves. Holding this great power to themselves.  The truth is a two edged sword, it's fine to hold on to it if spreading it is a bit much to you,  there is no condemnation for holding it . It just required from those who God equips with the ability. In Romans 1: 19,"Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them ; for God has showed it to them."  Vs.20" For the invisible things of him from creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the  things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they ( who are able to see this), are then without excuse" . There is absolutely  no excuse for a gifted believer who knows and understand  this reality breaking news shown to you, and you then share it  with no one.

Mickiel

Salvation then is not a meal always meant to eat alone. Share the meal sometimes , it's good eating . If you buy into what I been saying , what the scriptures have been saying , your then on your way to more important moves on Christ chess board. Now your a more diverse piece and you should see the board better now. Yes God and Christ will make some important moves that we cannot make, but we got to get on that board and be available.

Look at what he has done to get us on board, Romans 5::6, 8, 10 and 12. While we were sinning Christ died for us. So that we might live, oh praise his name , he loves us all. If your buying in then self has to die and a newly motivated believer is spawned. This is either the end time board , or the beginning of it, I don't know. But the church of this age has a lot of weight and luggage. This church has to work harder , see more , understand more , so we can do more. The harvest is humongous but the labourers few.
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Mickiel

In Matt.9:37: When Jesus saw the crowds he had compassion for them , they were like sheep without a Sheppard. Then he said to his disciples" The harvest is plentiful but the laborers are few." Pray earnestly to the Lord for laborers out into the harvest. There's just not that many believers who will go into the field. The bible even ask us to pray for witnesses to testify for Christ salvation. In 1Corith. 3:6," I planted, Apollo's watered but God gave the increase.Even though it was God giving the growth , they still got involved.

Mickiel


Please forgive me, inactive believers is an irritant of mine.

The harvest of the world is salvation. In Rev.14:15 the harvest of the world has come , the harvest of the world is fully ripe. Salvation is fully ripe, ready to be pulled out of bondage.  :banana: Godspeed that great day.

Mickiel

Salvation is liberation from sin and it's consequences. We are Sanctified by Gods grace and his love infused into Christ , who in turn gave his life to seal the sanctification in the vaults of heaven. Where Satan cannot reach it or spoil it. Now the love motif remains fresh and unspotted from the world. Now Jesus stands accused in our behalf. Jesus is now in position to redeem us from our sin . The passion of Christ was sufficient and superabundant , his passion was a type of ransom that paid the cost of freeing humanity from all obligations, especially those obligations created by human religions. Justification is a true removal of sins, not merely having one's sin ignored , the sins are disposed of and the sinner wiped clean.

Justification and grace are combined to make sure the sinner is covered. They are not ritual and social obligations, it's more like a covenant between God and Christ, and nothing comes between those two that can alter the path of salvation. It's atonement  and it releases the hooks of sin on humanity. Jesus stands In all gaps , Act 4:12, John 3:17.  God sent Jesus to save the" World", 1John 4:14,"We have seen and do testify,( again they are bearing witness ), that the Father sent the Son to be the savior of the world". This then is worldwide salvation.. It's also why many find it hard to believe. Though salvation we get a peak at God's heart.

Mickiel


I am reminded of the joke about the young horse and the old mayor horse,  they were standing at the top of a hill overlooking a valley they was full of young female mayor's. Excited and happy the young mayor says to the old horse,"Hurry , let's  go down and get one for our wife. The old mayor said "No son , let's take our time , go down and get them All."

Salvation is a get them all plan.

Mickiel

Satan will try to take salvation from you, he Is a thief and a liar. The believers now have it especially difficult because this is one of the those seasons where it seems God is hiding himself. An he does hide himself. Deut.31:17-8, Micah 3:4, Isaiah 54:8 , Ps. 10:11, Isaiah 8:17, Ps.89:46. At times we want God to hide himself from our sins , Ps.51:9. So when God hides himself , he is withdrawing , an Satan looks to take advantage of that and steps up his forward pace. Satan gathers his powers and ramps up his deceptions. He fuels up his demons and goes directly at God's church or anything resembling the church, and he is looking to rip apart any stray church members walking alone.  This is just one reason it's always good if you have fellowship with other believers. Just the term "Fellowship", is mentioned in scripture 17 times , in one meaning or another.  I have seen higher estimates.

We in this age face a formidable Satan. He has had time to hone his crafty skills,  he has more people deceived than he ever has. He is called the god of this world in 2Cornth. 4:4. Very skilled at blinding believers. Satan is a serious enemy whose aim is to kill, steal and destroy. John 10:10. He was created to destroy , Isaiah 54:16. So if he gets you down he will beat on you and trap you to prevent you from escapes. To inflict ruin in you and your seed. Rev. 12:17, " Satan went to make war with the remnant of her seed." Angry at being defeated.  He is then is wild and nuclear , unclean and very hateful.

So we have to be diligent , read Eph.6:10 - 17. We must face principalities - meaning Satan is a prince,  against dark powers and spiritual wickedness in high places. We have it so bad that scripture  advises us to put on armour provided by God. This is war. The bible calls it "Spiritual wickedness". So this is spiritual. We then battle on two fields , physical and spiritual.

Mickiel

Satan does have unique powers, spiritually blinding people from the truth is a favorite rage of his . 2 Corinth.3:3-4," For if our gospel be hid, it is his to those who are lost." In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not . Though they be lost and turned out, Jesus can change that, in Luke 19:10 The Son of man came to seek and save that which was lost . So for anyone who is considered lost, they are only lost temporary until Christ gets to them and their awareness to understand that they were never really lost, just deceived.

In Phil.3:21,"Who shall change our vile body , that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body , according to the working whereby he is able to subdue all things to himself." So many humans have to be helped through being subdued by Christ , he removes the blindness and begins all changes the human will need to be transformed into a believer, the scales will be removed from their eyes. Now they will be helped to forget those things which are behind, and reach toward the future , and press on to the prize of the high calling of God in Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 12:2, Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. Our complete cycle of this salvation of being set free. Every weight will be set aside for us to now run with patience the race that is set before us. Now salvation can work on their conscious and the light can begin to shine on their lives.?

Mickiel

#445
Salvation is a given, and , at the bottom line , humans have no choice in the matter. God is not going to allow humans to be stupid enough to reject him. We see this in hints from other scripture. Like John 12:32 Jesus said if he be lifted up, he will draw all men to him. The term"Draw" here comes from the term "Helko" which means to drag. Jesus is really revealing force being used to bring repentance to some. Isaiah 55:11, 45:23 God has vowed that to him every knee shall bow and every mouth shall confess to him. More indication of force being used to convert men if needed. Helko, taken from the Greek means to pull people with a Irresistible force.  Free will has absolutely nothing to do with it. We all get drafted.it is used again in John 6:44, Jeremiah 31:3, Song of Solomon 1:4, James 2:6, Acts 16:19, 21:30, all mean to compel. To tug even.

Mickiel

We each have a civil right to salvation. And the black church helped  that civility change some biblical themes.like the illusion that Jesus was a European white man or that God is white and the lie that there is no Black representation in the bible. All flesh shall see the revealed Lord. This civil salvation knows that God created all people from one man. And God was an extremist for love , truth and goodness, all inner powers of salvation. The bible was central to the energy of the civil rights movement.  All races are represented by the Holy Spirit and included.

Civil rights are a matter of justice. So salvation must appeal to all races , and cris cross the panarama of the concepts such as love , peace, long suffering , goodness and kindness, mercy and divine pardon . These principles uphold salvation , but they must appeal to believers in their personal lives. Transgenders ,gays, killers , all need salvation. And the white supremecy  that dug very deeply into this fight with Satan ,

The white evangelical Protestants  and the white Catholics who are believers need help , because the more racist attitudes a person holds, the more likey he or she  identify as a white Christian. America's founders studied the bible. Psalms 19:7, The law of The Lord is perfect, converting the soul. This is how many will be converted.  So all races will need a reconning.

Mickiel

#447
 
The white race has done a lot to help many people searching for God. It's just no doubt about that. But even in helping God laments if my people Which are called by my name shall humble themselves , and pray and turn from their wicked way and seek my face, then will I hear from heaven and forgive their sin , and heal their land. The white race needs humility from God, when you have done a lot, a lot then is required from you.

Mickiel

We need to keep salvation as a free gift for all races ,, because Satan can really use racism like a professional and spoil the water of unity.. He goes after pastors real hard in this area.  Salvation is an  inherited bowl of peace , a live love offering  from God himself.  Salvation is a great house and each human has a reserved room by Inheritance. We all will be  in educational situations for some time in the kingdom.

Mickiel

With my fear of eternity I have seen pictures of many planet surfaces, and they always seem to have these giant holes and indications of damage to their surfaces. Like an old war was fought there. A war of great power that blasted some of these planets. Perhaps some kind of angelic war? A war so powerfull that it killed a lot of these planets. The bible does speak of it's possible event. Some of those planets look like they been bombed.