SNIPPETS FROM THE HARD COPY UR LIBRARY OF RODGER TUTT

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Is God a Failure? - Eleanor Garrod 

Now that's a pretty poignant question. Or is it an insinuation? An inference? Or implication? Or is it truth, as many would have you believe? Have you ever heard a sermon by that title? I doubt if you have. But I'm certain you have heard many a sermon which has been riddled with such implications.
Allow me to rephrase the question: Have you ever heard a sermon stating that if you don't accept Jesus, you'll burn forever in hell? Ah, I knew I'd touch a raw nerve. You have, haven't you? If you heard that God is going to lose so much as one individual to the devil forever, then God is a failure.
If you have heard that the heathen (who have never had an opportunity to hear of Jesus) will be tormented forever for not believing in Him, then you've heard that God is a failure. If you've heard that man's puny will can withstand the omnipotent will of God, and that man's will can paralyze God's will, then you have heard that God is a failure.
If you've heard that the Adversary outsmarted God in the garden of Eden, if you've heard that God did not want Adam and Eve to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, then you've heard that God is a failure.
If you've ever heard anyone affirm that God will lose 95% of His created beings that He's placed on planet earth, and will torment them forever, then you've clearly heard that God is a failure.
If the Good Shepherd is not willing that any should perish, and yet gets weary and gives up before He finds the last sheep that's lost, then you know that God is a failure.
If no one can come to Jesus except the Father draws him, and if the Father - eventually - does not draw every single person, then God is a failure.
What is the response of your heart to the poised question: Is God a failure? Ah, my heart says, "Nay, a billion nays." My heart has fallen in love with a God who does all things perfectly, and one day all will be made plain, and in the end He will become 'All in All' and for that day my heart does wait and meanwhile I rejoice and endure because I see Him, the invisible One.

By faith I see a Master Plan for the ages and beyond, and I know I am part of that plan, and for this I whisper, "Thank you, Jesus." I sing a song to my Beloved, Hallelujah!
In Love with Him, Eleanor Garrod

GOD'S PLAN FOR THE AGES OF TIME
THE EONS OF THE BIBLE WITH CONCORDANCE
http://www.saviourofall.org/Tracts/Eons2.html 

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The death and resurrection of Jesus guarantees the eventual salvation of everyone.

ELECTION

Eventually everyone will be saved.

Because men have failed to see and understand the doctrine of election, it has propagated false ideas of salvation. Many seek to limit it to believers, but they overlook the significance of the double statement.

"In 1Tim. 4:9-11 we are told that the living God `is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of those who believe,' and with this 1Tim. 2: 4-6 concurs. Many seek to limit it to believers, but they overlook the significance of the double statement. That there is a special salvation for believers is plainly stated, but this does not limit the other part of the statement, rather does it emphasize it. The salvation of believers is a special work; they are a special class in the `all mankind.' God's will for mankind is salvation, not as an experimental salvation toying with the will and choice of men, but as their Disposer – God.

My dear brethren, let us embrace this glorious truth which God has revealed for us. Let it so become a part of us that our lives will be reflecting it. Let it fill our hearts with the love of God and His glorious Son. Let us be rendering praise to the living God, the universal Creator and Reconciler, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
`To Him be glory for the eons! Amen!' " - E.G.Jones

REDEMPTION IN TWO PARTS - J. Preston Eby
http://www.godfire.net/eby/allinall.html

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"Esau have I hated"

"Hate" as used by the Hebrews and Greeks, does not line up with how we use the word today.

For instance, Jesus said for certain ones to be His disciple, they would have to hate mother and father and children for His sake. But surely Jesus was not talking about a hatred such as we use the word today. Jesus was just telling those who wanted to be His disciple, that they had to give precedence to Him and His ministry over their mother, father and children.

Luke 14:26 If anyone is coming to Me and is not hating his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, and still more his soul besides, he can not be My disciple."
Jesus was not asking them to break the law of Moses which was to honour your mother and father.

The same goes for Esau. God gave precedence to Jacob by blessing him with the firstborn rights. But God later blessed Esau too.

Tony Nungesser

[rosered]

Thanks Brother Rodger !
  I  love that   you brought this out today ...   It goes very well  with the the Holy Spirit is   teaching  also in His Word ..
  It seems the Thayer  meaning is  good teaching tool for the   confused   .
My biggest struggle has been  trying to understand  what is good in Gods sight and what is evil in His sight as well   , when we act  upon  anything  as good or evil  . 
I do believe it is God whom separates those   things for us , by  teaching us  to choose the good , being carnal  first as Esau  was  and being faithful in a few things , in the unrighteous mammon [ things pertaining to this world ]   like  being honest  from the  heart  etc  fair with one another  ,that gives us the adoption of sons   that are redeemed under the law  of sin  and death      first  , and than becoming heirs to the promises in the new covenant    in

Gal 4 ...4But when the time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, 5 to redeem those under the Law, that we might receive our adoption as sons. 6And because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying out, "Abba, Father!"...

I also do see the   that we are to always put GOD first   in everything we do  , Jesus Christ is the perfect example we are to follow into eternal Life though Him     that is the only way  to the Father is though the Son of Man and being  the son of God  also  is the great gulf fixed by the Father ,  and the parable of    the rich man [ Hades/grave  ] and Lazarus [raised from death] by the promise of Abraham's seed   by faith ]   comes to mind , the ladder of Jacobs dream   of old[ Gen 28; 10-17] and the new in John     1;51]   Jesus  holds both the keys to open heaven and the keys of Hades and death    Being the Lord of the dead and the living .

Many blessings   to  you all.


http://bibleapps.com/greek/3404.htm

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ESPECIALLY

GOD JUSTIFIES, VIVIFIES, SAVES AND RECONCILES ALL – E.G. JONES

"In 1Tim. 4:9-11 we are told that the living God 'is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of those who believe,' and with this 1Tim. 2: 4-6 concurs. Many seek to limit it to believers, but they overlook the significance of the double statement. That there is a special salvation for believers is plainly stated, but this does not limit the other part of the statement, rather does it emphasize it. The salvation of believers is a special work; they are a special class in the 'all mankind.' God's will for mankind is salvation, not as an experimental salvation toying with the will and choice of men, but as their Disposer – God.

My dear brethren, let us embrace this glorious truth which God has revealed for us. Let it so become a part of us that our lives will be reflecting it. Let it fill our hearts with the love of God and His glorious Son. Let us be rendering praise to the living God, the universal Creator and Reconciler, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
'To Him be glory for the eons! Amen!' "

[marie glen]

  :happyclap: :ty:

What an awesome post! That dude said it!!

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"eternal damnation"

The meaning of words that have been translated as "eternal", "forever", "incurable" in the scriptures

Sodom's fiery judgment is "eternal" (Jude
7)--until--God "will restore the fortunes of Sodom"
Ez.16:53-55).

Israel's "affliction is incurable" (Jer.
30:12)-until--the Lord "will restore health" and heal
her wounds (Jer. 30:17).

The sin of Samaria "is incurable" (Mic. 1:9)-until--
Lord "will restore ... the fortunes of Samaria." (Ez.
16:53).

An Ammonite or Moabite is forbidden to enter the
Lord's congregation "forever"-until--the tenth
generation (Deut. 23:3):

Habakkuk tells us of mountains that were
"everlasting", that is -until-- they "were shattered"
Hab. 3 3:6).

The Aaronic Priesthood was to be an "everlasting"
priesthood (Ex. 40:15), that is-until-it was
superceded by the Melchizedek Priesthood (Hebrews
7:14-18).

Many translations of the Bible inform us that God
would dwell in Solomon's Temple "forever" (1 Kings
8:13), that is,--until the Temple was destroyed.

The Law of Moses was to be an "everlasting covenant"
(Leviticus 24:8) yet we read in the New Covenant the
first was "done away" and "abolished" (2 Corinthians
3:11,13), and God "made the first old" (Hebrews 8:13).

God's waves of wrath roll over Jonah
"forever"-until--the Lord delivers him from the large
fish's belly on the third day (Jonah 2:6,10; 1: 17);

Egypt and Elam will "rise no more" (Jer.
25:27)-until--the Lord will "restore the fortunes of
Egypt" (Ez. 29:14) and "restore the fortunes of Elam"
(Jer. 49:39).

"Moab is destroyed" (Jer. 48:4, 42)-until--the Lord
"will restore the fortunes of Moab" (Jer. 48:47).

Israel's judgment lasts "forever"-until--the Spirit is
poured out and God restores it (Isa. 32:13-15).

So, narrow is the way to life and few find it-until--
His church confiscates the "strong man's" booty,
setting the captives free so God becomes all in all
(Isa. 61, Luke 11:21-22, Matt. 7:13; 16:18, 1 Cor.
15:24-28).

The King James Bible, as well as many others, tells us
that a bondslave was to serve his master "forever"
(Exodus 21:6), that is,--until--his death.

[rosered]

Lovely              :dsunny:    <3

   

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A snippet from
Etymology of the Word "Damn"
The words "damn" and "Hell" are among favorite words spoken by theologians of the "hell-fire" type.
Let us look into the etymology of this word "damn." We may find some interesting surprises.
http://www.tentmaker.org/Dew/Dew7/D7-EtymologyOfTheWordDamn.html

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EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW
Does the subjection of all under Christ's feet involve forced submission?
1 Cor. 15:20-28. Not at all; first, we see that Christ will subject Himself to His Father. The same word is used because the same action is described; willing and worshipful submission. This is underscored in Phil. 2:9-11, where all bow IN the name of Jesus, a name meaning "God saves". How is it that every tongue will be acclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord? No one is able to say 'Jesus is Lord" except by Holy Spirit. 1 Cor. 12:3. So it is apparent that their hearts are susceptible to God's spirit.
"For the Son of Mankind came to seek and to save the lost." Luke 19:10.
How many will He seek? "And I, if I should be exalted out of the earth, shall be drawing all to myself." John 12:32. The word 'men' is not in the Greek; this is universal.
If we read Phil. 3:21, we see the use of the Greek word "kata" ("in accord with/ according to"); see Matt. 9:29 for another example. We are told that the operation which enables Christ to subject all to Himself is in accord with the transfiguration of the body of our humiliation, to conform it to the body of His glory. Nothing could be farther from forced subjugation than this!
Paul reveals a wondrous truth in Romans 5:19, and it relates to all mankind: "For even as, through the disobedience of the one man, the many were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One, the many shall be constituted just." Reconciliation is a willing and mutual agreement; one-sided conciliation or forced submission doesn't correspond with God's plan as described in Colossians 1:15-20.
"Yahweh, our Elohim, You are the Setter of welfare on the hearthstones for us, for, moreover, all our doings You do contrive for us." Is. 26:12. See 2 Chronicles 30:12; Rev. 17:17

Some ask, Why does it say "the many" instead of "all" in Roman 5:19?
This is because the one disobedient man (Adam), and the One righteous Man (Christ) are put in a class by themselves. They are in contrast with "the many."

We may put it as follows:
The one disobedient man plus "the many" equals all mankind made sinners.
The One obedient Man plus "the many" equals all mankind made righteous.

That "the one" plus "the many" made sinners includes all mankind no one will deny.

Even so, "the One" plus "the many" made righteous is all-inclusive and guarantees the salvation of all mankind.

[marie glen]

 :thumbsup: :ty: I had not noticed in Romans 5:19 how speaking of both Adam and Jesus, it says "the many". The interlinear shows too that indeed, in both cases, it is "the" many.. #G3588 -

And interesting, that many - "polloi" #G4183 - I remember from school that the greek is the basis of many of our words.. I remember the phrase (the) "hoi polloi".. haven't heard it for a while..

..Another great post and bit of writing!!

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THE PURPOSE OF EVIL

THE "EVIL" FROM THE LORD – MICHAEL KILLIAN
"All men will be saved. But God isn't trying to redeem everyone in this age, only that chosen generation that Paul spoke of.

Believing that the evil in this world has its purpose for good will bring much peace to your heart. And then to realize that God in someway, somehow, will eventually use evil to bring about good for everyone, will further add to your peace. As this revelation of the Prince of Peace is unfolded to your turbulent, battle-weary heart, you will start to more continuously abide in His love.

God not only 'allows' evil in this present world, but rather ordains it. No more, and no less evil than God Himself determines, will happen to anyone during any certain day."

[rosered]

 

   Thank you Rodger for all your   honest efforts and pure love flowing from the throne room of Gods grace though Jesus Christ LIVING Body   ,

  to eat and drink of  ,  that we might have Life in us also  .

  He is the Lord of the   dead and the living   and will  accomplish everything He promises to do for mankind  in his  present condition     In Adam all die but in Christ all shall be made ALIVE    though Himself    :HeartThrob:

[joeteekay]

Amen Rose and thanks Rodger for your posts and research.

Most Christians, instinctively revolt at the initial thought that evil can be from God. It is repulsive to our spiritual natures. It is natural to disregard it by making Satan the origin of all evil. No where in scripture is it said that the evil one originated it. Only God can give the power or capacity to do evil.

There are many passages in God's Word which bear out the great truth that all things—the evil as well as the good—find their source in the one and only God. It is readily admitted that many find it very hard to associate evil with God. They refuse to believe God's plain statements concerning it and end up ignoring it or modifying God's Word to suit their misconception. Theologians desire to shield God from all association with evil.

There is a purpose in evils creation, since nothing can be purposeless that comes from Him.

Rom 11:36 (KJV) For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

Isa 45:7 (KJV) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.


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THE FEET MINISTRY – DON BRUCE
"The mission of Christ was to destroy the enemy and to set the prisoners free. Now this word 'destroy' does not mean to annihilate. In the Greek it means to make of no effect. When Christ took the keys from the prison keeper he, Satan, lost all power and authority. Christ made his office of no effect (Heb. 2:14&15).

While prophets of doom forecast calamity and destruction, the mind of Christ speaks and lights our world with the vision of universal restoration and reconciliation.

Paul told of a great victory where every knee would bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Paul did not say that only a small number will bow and confess, but he said every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess. And no man can call Jesus Lord but by the Holy Spirit. What a glorious day that will be when every foot steps forth in the river of life up to the ankle, and from the ankle up to the knee. Every knee shall bow!

We are not an accident! We are not a mistake! No one has been overlooked by the Creator. All of us are His jewels, the apple of His eye, His purpose, reason and will.
When we see God in all things, and realize that all things are in His hands for the eventual good of everyone, then our lives will flow as peacefully as a river."

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We are not an accident! We are not a mistake! No one has been overlooked by the Creator. All of us are His jewels, the apple of His eye, His purpose, reason and will.
When we see God in all things, and realize that all things are in His hands for the eventual good of everyone, then our lives will flow as peacefully as a river."

thank you for this!

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FUNDAMENTALS OR BASIS OF BELIEF – Thomas Griffith
"We will get good out of evil. Our gracious Educator does evolve for us out of corruption, temptation and sin, new purposes, new skill, new triumphs.

Beyond the overruling of intermediate evil into subserviency to a higher good, what has been superinduced as a transition state of things is therefore seen to be necessary only for a time. It will pass away with the functions which it is made to fulfill. It will at last be superseded by the highest good for everyone."

[marie glen]

Amen adversity #H7451 - ra' (translated evil) is absolutely for the best good for all.. We can absolutely trust His wisdom.. :cloud9:
:thumbsup:

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JUSTIFICATION – DONALD G. HAYTER
"Although God introduced sin through the agency of His creatures, yet He did not sin in so doing. For it was no mistake, no failure of His. It was in accord with His intention, and it will be justified by the beneficial results obtained through its agency.
God is justified in all He does, for His final intention to glorify Himself and bless all of His creatures is the dominating purpose which adds luster to all His eonian operations.
In the brilliant glory of His ultimate, the most somber and gloomy features of earth's history are transformed into a brilliant display of His power, wisdom, and love.

During the final eons, every creature in the heavens, and on earth, and under the earth, will have learned of the sufferings of the Christ, and of the depths of the Father's love revealed in them. And every knee will bow to Him Who died, acclaiming Him Lord, for the glory of God the Father. Very feebly we can enter into the joy, the satisfaction, the thankfulness that will be His as He views the vast potentials of love and adoration that will be pulsing within the heart of everyone.

Thus will all ultimately be justified. God's matchless wisdom, serving in the cause of His love, has produced a method of salvation that calls forth the adoring wonder of our hearts. What a God we have!"

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THE EPICURIAN – Thomas Moore

"The God of benevolence, in Whose hands sin and death are but instruments of everlasting good, and Who, bringing all things 'out of darkness into His marvelous light,' proceeds watchfully, and unchangingly to the great, final object of His providence, the restoration of the whole human race to purity and happiness."

[marie glen]

 :thumbsup: :cloud9:

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THE PURPOSE OF GOD'S WILL – GUY MARKS

"God prearranged it all, from the fall of man to the glory of the consummation. Not one thing was left to chance. All was founded on His wisdom.

To some, evil is never to cease. God is never able, as they see it, to bring about so much good that all evil will vanish. They try to justify God with the false teaching that man is a free moral agent, whereas the only freedom of man which the scriptures affirm is the freedom of deliverance we find alone in Christ Jesus."

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THE INTERPLAY OF GOOD AND EVIL – RAY PRINZING

"God is sovereign, and He controls all the interaction of evil and good, and causes all to redound to His own glory. It is not – what was lost by the fall was to be regained by redemption, BUT by the interaction of FALL AND REDEMPTION, God achieves greater, wiser, nobler, and higher goals for everyone than by the Adamic race remaining in its pristine state.

Evil and good are synchronized to accomplish God's will and purpose, so that the ultimate goal shall reveal all evil transformed back into good, and all negation cancelled out by GOOD. Evil is allowed for wise ends, and when these are secured it must cease to exist, for God will restore all things into good. HE controls all the interaction between evil and good until His purpose of the ages is fulfilled. Then shall God be All in all."

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CONVERSATIONS ON THE DIVINE GOVERNMENT – Theophilus Lindsey

"The doctrine of eternal torments is a millstone that Christians hang around the neck of the Gospel. The words translated 'eternal,' 'everlasting,' 'forever,' and the like, generally signify limited periods of duration.

Everything is from God, and for the good of all. All things, good as well as what we call evil, are appointed by Infinite Wisdom and Benevolence, for the wisest and most gracious purposes for everyone."

[marie glen]

Awesome posts!! :icon_flower: