Prophecy

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: I have never gotten into looking at President's or world leaders as inherently 'evil" in fact I barely pay enough attention to them to know who has the office. BUT....two years ago on Easter Sunday I was in Florida, and I was reading a book while someone else was watching the news and Obama's came on, having been asked at some meeting or other, if he had anything he wanted to say about Easter to the nation. I went on reading my book, until the Lord quickened something to me as Obama spoke.

He said something to the effect of, "I think whether you are a Jew, a Christian or a Muslim, Easter is a good start", and believe this or not, I was stunned when the Spirit quickened to me what he meant in his heart. It was, Christ was slaughtered, a generation later the Jews were too by Rome. Death to both sects, was why it was good for Muslims. The man is a Muslim in his heart, that proved it to me.

And if he was in control of the UN, and this country was overthrown, he could send in troops against Americans. My daughter was married to a man in the army and as such went to the base here a few times. There were Russian officers being trained there by us. And a questionnaire before this was sent out to the soldiers there. One of the primary questions was if Martial law was declared, would they follow orders and shoot on Americans. Most of them said no.

Add FEMA activities to it, and it's not too hard to see a scenario developing. This country has to fall for anything else to happen. That's just the way it is, because we were blessed with so much and strength we abused and turned from God just like Israel. Totally my  :2c: and this is why I do my level best to keep my eyes on Him and keep pressing in. Blessings...

[marie glen]

Amen.. To Sheila and Cardinal, both..

..and not a reason for His own to fear or even be confused.. Even when babble on (and on) falls, He has made His promises.. Those who dwell under the shadow (and wing) of the Almighty.. and those of the church of brotherly love shall be led to streams of fresh life giving waters..

The four winds held back.. a pause of what was unleashed in rev 13:13 and in 6:12-17, the opening of the new windy fire - the splitting of the atom as warfare is paused, not hard to see if the horsemen and seals are the main elements of the years of our Lord a.d., and this is a lock here on the vision, because they are described here as a blend of what they are at their first and what they are fully progresses/galloped/and fully mature at the 'end'..

In this way things are described here, so early on in the vision, things which actually occur very late on the planet. In seal six is the men running to caves and shelters, remember the bomb shelters? Then fast forward to the second cord in this weaving of what they are at their first and last, the full progression of man's splitting of the atom at the very 'end' when Jesus arrives in fire and with His angels.. He sends out to gather His elect..

But that first splitting of the atom i believe was the opening of the sixth seal - and I strongly feel the Lord has confirmed this to me.. And we are now in the pause of the split atom being used as warfare.. While chapter 7 the servants of God are sealed on their forehead, a great crowd/number from every tribe and nation and then also 144,000 of Israel - whom Jesus told Israel you shall not see me again - again until you say - blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord/Yahweh.

It all fits together so perfectly.. When whomever is watching - I.e. in that day, when the pause ends, and there is, I believe limited thermo-nuclear as war, likely in or from the Middle East? Then is when the seventh seal is broken open on the scroll, within which is the seven trumpets and things then escalate. But the whole 666 scenario I believe lasts only 45 days, with clear signposts beforehand and hopefully our grandkids will still be blessed to live most of their days with Liberty, i.e. Still a somewhat Christian nation and will know the sign when time to shut their door about them "til the indignation be overpast".

And perhaps the pause will continue for a bit.. But if the "watchman" see trouble coming and not warn the people... Woe.. ..."watch and pray". Revelation is the only book of the bible that if one studies or read/hears, it is viewed as because of ulterior motives! :smile: but "wisdom is justified of her children" i.e. we all have on our heart what the Lord puts there.. & UR completes the puzzle when we realize we are all in heaven and earth witnessing truth triumphing over untruth/babble. :))

I know many believe rev is only within, or past.. And that's fine.. Whatever we believe will not affect what occurs, or does not occur..

[jabcat]

I know many believe rev is only within, or past..  Whatever we believe will not affect what occurs, or does not occur..

:thumbsup:  SomeOne else is in control.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Amen and thank God for that.... :thumbsup:

[rosered]

Hebrews 12 The Supremacy of the Son
1God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways,


2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.


3And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature,


and upholds all things by the word of His power.


When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,...


Rev   199Then he said to me, "Write, 'Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.'


" And he said to me, "These are true words of God." 10Then I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me,


"Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God.


For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."

I wish you could all speak in tongues, but even more I wish you could all prophesy. For prophecy is greater than speaking in tongues

, unless someone interprets what you are saying so that the whole church will be strengthened.

with the testimony of Jesus  is understanding what Jesus said  during His  ministry     

Revelation 1:1
The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,

Revelation 12:17
Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring--those who keep God's commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.


Every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God  matt 4   If we really look at what Jesus is saying   to satan/adversaries  here ,
  we Know that     mankind    must accept the fact that    Every WORD OF GOD   is also the judgments    ,  not just the bread of heaven  only ....

...3And the tempter came and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread."

4But He answered and said, "It is written, 'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.'"

5Then the devil took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple,...

   The warnings  and also the instructions   ,  When Paul expounded on the Testimony of Jesus  by  saying here

  Anyone having the Spirit of God    must also have the Spirit of Christ also  , Whom ever has the Son has the Father also  1  John  2  23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Romans 8 Control by the Spirit
9However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness....

There is not one without the other  working in us ..by the SPIRIT  union  because the Father always  tells the Son what He is doing

  John 5 The Father and the Son
...18For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath,

but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.


19Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself,

unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner. 20"For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing; and the Father will show Him greater works than these, so that you will marvel....



We know the  true Church is also apart of Christ Body of believers and  whatever He does  the Body also   does   by Him being the head and authority   over the Body working according to His will /desire ...

Discern the Body of Christ 

1 Cor 11 Observing the Lord's Supper


...28But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup.


29For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly.


30For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and a number sleep....

Pretty clear as to what is going on  by the scriptures  / WORD OF TRUTH  BY THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH  ..

   Judged   by  the  WORD SPOKEN LAST DAY  SON ....

John 12 Some Believe in Jesus
...47"If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him;

for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world.


48"He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him;


the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.


49"For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak....


These fit perfectly as  to what is happening  in the now      as it was then and what will be  yet to come ...

A repeated pattern   of destruction in the earth  [as a witness ]  as the Kingdom of God is  being  built    by His Word and Spirit in power and  authority   [as a witness ]
on earth as it is in heaven   as knowledge of good and evil increase  and we KNOW   By the  Spirit     that all things , good and bad    work  together   for the good of those  whom love God and are called  accoding to HIS PURPOSE  ,,   yes even the bad has purpose in God   to bring  forth His  perfect and complete  plan   .    .....


Romans 8  28 God Works In All Things :HeartThrob:
28And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;...

[sheila]

the way I see it...all has been given unto Christ..all the old creation..for Him to raise up on that last day............I see satan

succeeding in causing fire to come down from heaven...but I also see God pouring out His spirit[fire] on all flesh....thus

  satans portion to satan..and God's to God.

   thus the image and the likeness of the corrupt..coming to it's end[old] and the image and likeness of the incorrupt becoming

  life from the dead[New]

[rosered]

the way I see it...all has been given unto Christ..all the old creation..for Him to raise up on that last day............I see satan

succeeding in causing fire to come down from heaven...but I also see God pouring out His spirit[fire] on all flesh....thus

  satans portion to satan..and God's to God.

   thus the image and the likeness of the corrupt..coming to it's end[old] and the image and likeness of the incorrupt becoming

  life from the dead[New]

:HeartThrob:

[marie glen]

Amen sisters.. Especially how He will accomplish ALL his will and intent :dsunny: how could it possibly be any less?!

He is a God of order.. Surely? Orderly.. We can see that by looking at the well oiled organization of the universe.. and of all things in it, including the families of mankind.. He's shown us His order.. And for that day and benefit of those of His, in that order is a timetable.. I didn't realize that really until just now.. We can see His order by the revelation vision and by the order that is shown around His throne in that vision.

The Throne, the Lamb, sevenfold Spirit of God, the heavenly creatures which cannot help but cry holy holy holy Lord God Almighty.. The elders, countless multitude of angels and those who happen to be elect are (being) sealed on their forehead, and 144,000 of national Israel.. All assembled as witnesses to God's Holy truth borne out and proven..

How does bible prophecy complement UR? is a question that's been at the back of my mind and I'm thinking by the witness ...that ALL in heaven and earth are, it would seem, intended to witness and be witnesses..

The timetable, or part of it, i'm thinking is cross references by  our Lord and by Paul.. By Paul " if Israel's falling away is salvation to the nations, what shall their gathering to Him be? But life from the dead" (for the nations or that is believers of all nations- the 1st resurrection at His return..

And Jesus' words (last verse Mt 23) "you, Israel/Jerusalem, will not-see-me-again-until you Israel/Jerusalem say 'blessed is He Who comes in the name of the Lord/Yahweh'"

And, next to last verse(?) in rev 12, a history all its own, of the faith, an insert, like rev 13 is. Tho mostly is thought to run as time as a straight line which rev is not always strictly in order (imo).

Next to last verse, or so, in rev 12.. The dragon turns his attention (more) fully to the rest of the Faith's (other) children, Israel who "have the commandments of God and (by then) "hold to the testimony of Jesus" -- remembering the 144,000 being sealed in chapter 7.

And one more that I know of, rev chapter 16, verses 14,15, and 16 - "3 demons like frogs" very foul tasting "gather the Kings to Armageddon" against Israel "blessed are those who keep their garments (handy?) for I come as a thief" suddenly " and they gathered to Armageddon" against Israel, the Faith's 'other children'..

"Will He not tell His servants/slaves what He is doing before it come to pass?" :girlheart: