Day Star

[sheila]

 O'Yes..it can be...but I wouldn't limit it. IT ISSO MUCH MORE THAN JUST OUR MIND...though we perceive it with our mind. It IS THE WILL AND MIND OF GOD

  THAT FORMS AND MAKES AND CREATES[we form and caryy an idol,God forms and carry's us]

  What is loosed on earth is loosed in heaven.What you bind on earth is bound in heaven   limiting God in man's mind falls far short of His Glory

   filling the earth with the knowledge of God [new heavens]   the New creation we await..and can not know..until He forms it in us. For

   all creation is a work of His hands.....And it is by His spirit only that the false prophet and beast are done away with and the adversary is consumed

    Indeed His spirit going to and fro shapes the new creation...both new heavens and new earth...and death is destroyed..BUT THE DESOLATION OF THE OLD

  MUST OCCUR TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE NEW...Heaven and earth WILL pass away..but my words will never pass away


   

[Beloved Servant]

No limitations.
Mass communication.
The heavens roil with the offspring of Adam AND Eve.

[Molly]

Whether or not you believe Satan is a real being [I do] or that there are other spiritual beings in the heavens like the angels and the sons of God [I do], principalities and powers of darkness, you have to agree this is not Jesus:

17That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners [Isa 14:17]

[Beloved Servant]

There is nothing that God created that does not have life in it.
Only that Life that dwells in the Sabbath remains.

[sheila]

   then why did God have to destroy death?

[Beloved Servant]

To keep it from reproducing.

[Molly]

To keep it from reproducing.

huh?

[sheila]

         

               :laughing7:

[Molly]

Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death--that is, the devil--

--Heb 2:14

[Beloved Servant]

Exactly.
And obviously, he does not hold the power of Life, for each produces after its own kind.

[sheila]

    for her sins have piled up to heaven,mix her a double portion from her own cup...

   in her was found the blood of all the prophets and all the saints and the blood of all that have been killed on earth

[sheila]

O'Yes!

    He destroys death so that we may live in HIM!!! :bgdance:

[Beloved Servant]

Unchain my heart.

[Molly]

Therefore it says, "WHEN HE ASCENDED ON HIGH, HE LED CAPTIVE A HOST OF CAPTIVES, AND HE GAVE GIFTS TO MEN."

--Eph 4:8

[Beloved Servant]

That Day Star will be supernova to the natural eye.
When Jesus walked the earth 2000 years ago the people must have just sat there stunned with their heads cocked back and the mouths dropped open while He spoke.

[sheila]

   'unchained melody'

   no,actually quite a few put their hands over their ears :mshock: Acts 7;57  Look,I see heaven open....

[eaglesway]

Context is important, if not of prime importance. I cannot see Isaiah 14:12 referring to Christ. God is the "Father of Lights". There are many stars and a third of them are swept from the heavens by the dragons tail. Whether or not the translation is correct or not is an issue worthy of examination for sure, but the context of Isaih 14 eliminates Messiah as the morning star in question in those verses. To make a broad statement saying Lucifer always refers to Christ creates unnecessary controversy as far as I am concerned, and is not authoritative insofar as a complete study on words relating to stars and morning stars and daystars and shining ones might reveal, IMO.

[Beloved Servant]

Many messages do disguise themselves as angels of light.

He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

Till the stars fall from my eyes — there will always be a You.

Thank you Lord.

[Molly]

Context is important, if not of prime importance. I cannot see Isaiah 14:12 referring to Christ. God is the "Father of Lights". There are many stars and a third of them are swept from the heavens by the dragons tail. Whether or not the translation is correct or not is an issue worthy of examination for sure, but the context of Isaih 14 eliminates Messiah as the morning star in question in those verses. To make a broad statement saying Lucifer always refers to Christ creates unnecessary controversy as far as I am concerned, and is not authoritative insofar as a complete study on words relating to stars and morning stars and daystars and shining ones might reveal, IMO.

:thumbsup:

[sheila]

DO NOT LET YOUR SINS WEIGH YOU DOWN......O'what a DRAGON TAIL[TALE}

[Beloved Servant]

Do you mean scorpion tail?

[sheila]

 no, the dragontale that sweeps a third of the stars from heaven. The same dragon bent on devouring the manchild as soon as it's born....followed

by war breaking out in heaven and satan being thrown down..with his angels[messengers] with him

[eaglesway]

Scorpio, O Scorpio, Where for art thou Scorpio?

[sheila]

MAY WE NEVER KNOW HIM!!

[sheila]

 or rather,the torment of his sting