The secrets of time

[Molly]

So things seem to accelerate.

Yes!  That's one reason I feel I can't wait until 2036.   Have you noticed things are accelerating?  Now they are flooding 3000 square miles around the Mississippi river, displacing homes, farms, and animals.  It's just one huge disaster after another these days.  I don't know if I can take this for another 12 months, never mind 25 years.

1998
On July 3, 1996 British Prime Minister John Major announced in public that the government had decided to give the Coronation Stone and other important artifacts and documents back to Scotland, which had been taken 700 years earlier in 1296 AD. The Coronation Stone signifies the divine right to rule, and all the British monarchs from that time to the present (except Mary I, called "Bloody Mary") have been crowned over this stone.

Yes. I knew about this.  What I didn't understand is why he did it.  Does that mean the next king of England won't be crowned on this stone?  What's the implication of that?

I have read the queen of England traces her bloodline back to king David.  I believe these monarchs consider themselves a royal bloodline, of the tribe of Judah, giving them the right to reign under this passage:

The scepter will not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from his descendants, until the coming of the one to whom it belongs, the one whom all nations will honor.
--Gen 49:10

It is also thought by some that the Europeans in general [and America by extension] are descendants of the ten lost northern tribes of Israel.  I believe the Founders of this country, and the Pilgrims in particular, believed they were ushering in the reign of Christ, wresting his power from the hands of kings.  Under Christ we are each one of us kings.

"We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven and from the rising to the setting of the sun - let His Kingdom come"
Samuel Adams
Father of the Revolution
[Adams made the above statement as the Declaration of Independence was being signed]

"It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ."
--Patrick Henry

Hosea 1:10
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.


For at least ten years we have been under heavy judgment.  The people have lost control of their country. The kings have been brought down to the ground.  And, now like you say, it is escalating.

[WhiteWings]

So things seem to accelerate.

Yes!  That's one reason I feel I can't wait until 2036.

Then I have bad news for you. The kingdom on earth would have started 1000s of years ago if teh Jews didn't pull that stunt with the 12 spies. It can happen again?

Have you noticed things are accelerating?

Yes, but likely not in the same way as you. I just see time frames shrinking.

[Molly]

I just see time frames shrinking.

Everyone thinks usa will be the first to fall, but I don't think so.  I think it will be Europe first because the Europeans are missing that gene that caused men to pick up and leave for a place where they could live in freedom as masters of their own destiny, subject only to God. :laughing7:

You see time frames shrinking?  The powers that be are trying to shrink the whole western world back to a feudal time, where the property was in the hands of the few, before the magna carter gave the right of habeus corpus [1215 ad], and where we boiled water, lived by candlelight, and threw our trash in the streets.

Is this Biblical?  Let's just forget the last 1000 years?  That's shrinking alright.

[WhiteWings]

I just see time frames shrinking.

Everyone thinks usa will be the first to fall, but I don't think so.  I think it will be Europe first because the Europeans are missing that gene that caused men to pick up and leave for a place where they could live in freedom as masters of their own destiny, subject only to God. :laughing7:

The god that rules the USA lives in (easter) Europe  :winkgrin:

And forget about Europe falling first. The USA will fall 6 months before Europe. If you follow the markets in bull and bear times you see Europe lag 6 months.
So I would say if one falls the other falls too. Let's just face it. The USA is nowhere without Europe. Europe is nowhere without the USA. Global trade/markets merged the marco economy of both (and other) continents. One big Babylonian trade empire....

[Molly]

Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland say differently. :winkgrin:  Am I correct in assuming that these nations do not have a national identity in the European Union?  How long will they be able to carry everything on the backs of Germans?

The nations will survive intact.  We see them in Rev 20.

Although our States were originally set up as nations, we have long since forged our honor and our treasure together.  We'll see if this can hold, but I trust it will.

A house divided cannot stand.


PS
One in four Greeks now want to get out of the euro: Greece dispatch
As a new bailout looms, Greek voters start to think the unthinkable about the euro.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/8513885/One-in-four-Greeks-now-want-to-get-out-of-the-euro-Greece-dispatch.html

[WhiteWings]

Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland say differently. :winkgrin: 

But you don't see the connection?

Am I correct in assuming that these nations do not have a national identity in the European Union?

Every European member has  a national identity.

How long will they be able to carry everything on the backs of Germans?

Not just the Germans. It was plan (supposingly) for the common good. More and more there is a sound of backing out. (but that won't be allowed)

The nations will survive intact.  We see them in Rev 20.

But not nation Babylon.

Although our States were originally set up as nations

And still are.

, we have long since forged our honor and our treasure together.

That's why the south is the laughing stock of the north.

We'll see if this can hold, but I trust it will.
A house divided cannot stand.

Your house is divided. Always has been. The glue is Babylon. Revelation dissolves glue... :2c:

[Molly]

[But you don't see the connection?

yes, of course I do.  That's why the big rout in the last elections.

More and more there is a sound of backing out. (but that won't be allowed)

Who's going to stop it and how.

But not nation Babylon.

Right.  Babylon is on its way out, don't you think?  I can't tell how much of this they are controlling and how much is out of their control.

That's why the south is the laughing stock of the north.

That is not true.  That's propaganda.  The States have a long history of helping each other out.  I care about what happens in Mississippi like my own, even though I've never been there.  I'm a yankee but one of my heroes is Robert E. Lee.

Your house is divided. Always has been. The glue is Babylon. Revelation dissolves glue...

That's where you're wrong.  The glue has always been Christianity, and love of God, freedom, and country.   We teach this to our children subconsciously. They have been trying mightily to dissolve it and replace it with Babylon but they keep failing.  They can only succeed superficially--I hope!

[WhiteWings]

[But you don't see the connection?

yes, of course I do.  That's why the big rout in the last elections.

By spending zillions on banks....

More and more there is a sound of backing out. (but that won't be allowed)

Who's going to stop it and how.

Nobody, Europe has teh same puppetmasters as the USA.
Just read about the 1933 depression on how Britain was foreclosed. It's happening again. Whole countries/states will be foreclosed.

But not nation Babylon.

Right.  Babylon is on its way out, don't you think?  I can't tell how much of this they are controlling and how much is out of their control.

Let's stick with Revelation and say it's on it's way out.
Just take a birds-eye view at fractional banking. Debt by default keeps increasing. Productivity can and taxes can be raised to a certain point. People can't work 30 hours in a day. Neither they can pay 130% taxes.
It has to blow up one way or another.

Your house is divided. Always has been. The glue is Babylon. Revelation dissolves glue...

That's where you're wrong.  The glue has always been Christianity, and love of God, freedom, and country.

How many even know what Christianity is.
People shout with their mouth but vote with their wallet....
Lots of ideals until it costs...

We teach this to our children subconsciously. They have been trying mightily to dissolve it and replace it with Babylon but they keep failing.  They can only succeed superficially--I hope!

Failing? Draining tax dollars in to the big corp (oil/defence). Sub-prime hurts the little man. And with help of Wallstreet puppet Obama truckloads of tax $ are dumped in the pockets of big-corp (banking)

Seems like another off-topic thead.

[Molly]

Failing? Draining tax dollars in to the big corp (oil/defence). Sub-prime hurts the little man. And with help of Wallstreet puppet Obama truckloads of tax $ are dumped in the pockets of big-corp (banking)

It's not like we don't know this is happening.  We keep trying to change it by electing new leaders and then whoops--they lied.  Go listen to the campaign speeches of Geo Bush before his first election and your jaw will drop.  He's not recognizable to the man we came to know.

Nobody, Europe has teh same puppetmasters as the USA.
Just read about the 1933 depression on how Britain was foreclosed. It's happening again. Whole countries/states will be foreclosed.

Satan just keeps doing the same thing over and over again.  That's why history repeats.  But one of these days, God will do something new.

Seems like another off-topic thead.

Not sure it's off topic because we are seeing the secrets of time play out before our very eyes.  It's not all so secret anymore.

How many even know what Christianity is.

You would be surprised.  I know I am.
I'm telling you, it's in our bones.  Even the atheists say, well, Jesus--what's not to like about him? :laughing7:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: It's all going to come down like the house of cards that it is, because it's the only way for the wrath of judgment to fall upon the just and the unjust, equally. The just will live by faith, which He has been perfecting thru all our trials and tribulations. The unjust will be forced (humbled) to receive from the hand of the Lord, thru His priesthood again.

Think about the pattern that was established in the Tabernacle: if they sinned they HAD to come to the priests because it was only way to get rightstanding again, and those curses in Deuteronomy ensured they would come to the priests. The problem has been that He has had priests in this in part realm that is Pentecost, who themselves were not and could not be, whole yet themselves. Satan can't cast out Satan. My  :2c:  and that's all folks! (for today-got to run)   :grin: :HeartThrob:

[Molly]

It's all going to come down like the house of cards that it is, because it's the only way for the wrath of judgment to fall upon the just and the unjust, equally

Why would God's wrath fall on the just and the unjust equally?  I don't think that's right.  His rain [spirit and mercy] fall on the just and the unjust equally.  But his wrath?

14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

--Rev 12

Isaiah 40:31
But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

[WhiteWings]

No opinions on this interpretation?
http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/members_lounge/the_secrets_time_9637.msg121796.html#msg121796

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: @ Molly.....by wrath I mean judgment and judgment begins in the house of the Lord. Read again what I said about the priesthood having to go thru the cleansing of the INSIDE of the cup; that is what I'm talking about. May have used the wrong word, but not saying anything new. Lack of sleep likely the cause  :winkgrin:

[rosered]

  Good Land Man , I cant read  all this tonight !  3 pages lol
   needed to simplify   :laughing7:
  alot was good  and some funny lol  what I read already
  night all :HeartThrob: