Miracles at the Temple

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Cardinal

 :cloud9: Personally, I take that as when the sons of God are manifested walking AS Him in the earth, the carnal beastly natures will be brought to this 3rd temple of His body, to be consumed by the fire of God. He makes His minsters to be flames of fire. My  :2c: Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

thinktank

Interesting thanks for that whitewings I will look it up. The book of Daniel also talks about the Jews re establishing the sacrifical ceremonies and temple.

WhiteWings

Quote from: thinktank on July 12, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Interesting thanks for that whitewings I will look it up. The book of Daniel also talks about the Jews re establishing the sacrifical ceremonies and temple.
http://www.jewishveg.com/schwartz/faq_sacrifices.html => Animal sacrifice was never commanded by Father.
http://www.ravkooktorah.org/VAYIKRA58.htm  => Grain only
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: wwIn chapters 43-44, Ezekiel clearly states that the animal sacrifices will be reinstated in their full glory.  This simple fact should at least give Hebrew-Christians pause before they boldly proclaim that the transformation of the scarlet strip of wool had ceased due to the fact that God had done away with animal sacrifices.

John 2:21
But he spake of the temple of his body.


1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?




4As the glory of the LORD entered the temple by the gate facing east, 5 the Spirit lifted me up and brought me into the inner court; and behold, the glory of the LORD filled the temple.

--Eze 43



Does this sound like an earthly, literal Temple?


1Then he brought me back to the door of the temple, and behold, water was issuing from below the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east). The water was flowing down from below the south end of the threshold of the temple, south of the altar. 2Then he brought me out by way of the north gate and led me around on the outside to the outer gate that faces toward the east; and behold, the water was trickling out on the south side.
3Going on eastward with a measuring line in his hand, the man measured a thousand cubits, and then led me through the water, and it was ankle-deep. 4Again he measured a thousand, and led me through the water, and it was knee-deep. Again he measured a thousand, and led me through the water, and it was waist-deep. 5Again he measured a thousand, and it was a river that I could not pass through, for the water had risen. It was deep enough to swim in, a river that could not be passed through. 6And he said to me, "Son of man, have you seen this?"

  --Eze 47



Or does it sound more like the New Jerusalem described in Rev 22?



1Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3 No longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants will worship him. 4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever.

--Rev 22




thinktank

Quote from: WhiteWings on July 12, 2010, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: thinktank on July 12, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Interesting thanks for that whitewings I will look it up. The book of Daniel also talks about the Jews re establishing the sacrifical ceremonies and temple.
http://www.jewishveg.com/schwartz/faq_sacrifices.html => Animal sacrifice was never commanded by Father.
http://www.ravkooktorah.org/VAYIKRA58.htm  => Grain only

Quote from: ww
In chapters 43-44, Ezekiel clearly states that the animal sacrifices will be reinstated in their full glory

You said it, not me. I simply said the temple will be restored, but thanks for clearing that it may not be animal sacrifice, for that is what I assumed it would be, but it could well be just grain.


Molly

6For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

7But they like men have transgressed the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against me.

--Hosea 6

WhiteWings

Molly, TT,

I just quoted the Rabbi from David's URL (, and would like an opion based on Scripture).
The Jews may be wrong about many things but they certainly aren't OT noobs without understanding....

BTW it's said that the Jews are currently making all kind of things needed in the Temple.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: WhiteWings on July 12, 2010, 08:58:08 PM
Molly, TT,

I just quoted the Rabbi from David's URL (, and would like an opion based on Scripture).
The Jews may be wrong about many things but they certainly aren't OT noobs without understanding....

BTW it's said that the Jews are currently making all kind of things needed in the Temple.

All of it represents Jesus, all the way back to Cain and Abel.  We are told that Abel is righteous, meaning he had knowledge of God, meaning he had Christ.  It is Christ that Abel offers to the Father.

Cain is told what to do, but does he listen?  No.  Instead he listens to his own evil heart and kills his brother--another innocent lamb slain.

You cannot possibly understand the Old Testament without the New Testament where all is revealed.

They better get a good architect for that Temple because they are going to have to do some pretty fancy things with waterworks.

WhiteWings

Quote from: Molly on July 12, 2010, 09:02:59 PMThey better get a good architect for that Temple because they are going to have to do some pretty fancy things with waterworks.
Just a pipe to the spring and it's done.
If the spring still exists...
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: WhiteWings on July 12, 2010, 09:09:56 PM
Quote from: Molly on July 12, 2010, 09:02:59 PMThey better get a good architect for that Temple because they are going to have to do some pretty fancy things with waterworks.
Just a pipe to the spring and it's done.
If the spring still exists...

No, this is very specific--so much coming out of each gate with a river you cannot swim through coming out of the east gate.  Then measure by cubits, each thousand it goes up to the ankle and up to the waist--whose ankle?  whose waist?  Does anyone know how tall Ezekiel was?

It's very complicated.  I've played with water a lot and it's not so easy to control.  :laughing7:

WhiteWings

Got a link?

QuoteDoes anyone know how tall Ezekiel was?
Yes.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

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Quote from: WhiteWings on July 12, 2010, 09:24:12 PM
Got a link?

QuoteDoes anyone know how tall Ezekiel was?
Yes.

A link to what?  If they try to rebuild that Temple, the first thing I will demand is to see the architecture for the waterworks, and next I will demand  how they identify the sons of Zadok, because otherwise they will have no priests.

I could have more demands, too.


And the name of the city from that time on shall be, The LORD Is There."

--Eze 48

WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: WhiteWings on July 12, 2010, 09:53:10 PM
Quote from: Molly on July 12, 2010, 09:28:37 PMA link to what?
Specs of the waterworks.

1Then he brought me back to the door of the temple, and behold, water was issuing from below the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east). The water was flowing down from below the south end of the threshold of the temple, south of the altar. 2Then he brought me out by way of the north gate and led me around on the outside to the outer gate that faces toward the east; and behold, the water was trickling out on the south side.
3Going on eastward with a measuring line in his hand, the man measured a thousand cubits, and then led me through the water, and it was ankle-deep. 4Again he measured a thousand, and led me through the water, and it was knee-deep. Again he measured a thousand, and led me through the water, and it was waist-deep. 5Again he measured a thousand, and it was a river that I could not pass through, for the water had risen. It was deep enough to swim in, a river that could not be passed through. 6And he said to me, "Son of man, have you seen this?"

   --Eze 47

Cardinal

 :cloud9: They're going to use the cohains....many of the people named "Cohen" descended from the priests. They are doing a genetic search now; they have identified a "cohain" marker in their DNA, apparently from some that could literally trace their ancestry back to that time. They keep good records. Blessings...
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

WhiteWings

There is also marker found that traces back to Adam and Eve (or Noach?)
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: Cardinal on July 13, 2010, 08:00:32 AM
:cloud9: They're going to use the cohains....many of the people named "Cohen" descended from the priests. They are doing a genetic search now; they have identified a "cohain" marker in their DNA, apparently from some that could literally trace their ancestry back to that time. They keep good records. Blessings...
He says the Levites shall not come before his face, only the sons of Zadok who remained faithful.

So how do we identify the sons of Zadok?


10And the Levites that are gone away far from me, when Israel went astray, which went astray away from me after their idols; they shall even bear their iniquity.

11Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them.

12Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand against them, saith the Lord GOD, and they shall bear their iniquity.

13And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have committed.

14But I will make them keepers of the charge of the house, for all the service thereof, and for all that shall be done therein.

15But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD:

16They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge.

--Eze 44

Cardinal

 :cloud9: They won't be hard to identify when He's finished with them.....Melchi-ZADOK. SONS of "Zadok". Blessings...
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Beloved Servant


Zadok or Zadoq (Hebrew: צדוק, Tzadok meaning "Righteous")

The Sons of Righteousness


Molly

wow. LOL!  I missed the connection.


Jeremiah 23:6
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.



H6664
צדק
tsedeq
tseh'-dek
From H6663; the right (natural, moral or legal); also (abstractly) equity or (figuratively) prosperity: -  X even, (X that which is altogether) just (-ice), ([un-]) right (-eous) (cause, -ly, -ness).

WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

WhiteWings

1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

thinktank

I hope their not building it already :mshock:

WhiteWings

Why you hope not?
The relics are finished (I think).
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

thinktank

Because it's one of the signs of the end times.