Conspiracy?

[Molly]

Ok, I have a question for you conspiracy buffs.  Why would a Christian nation use a Hebrew name for their space program [nasa], name their vehicles to the moon after a greek sun god [apollo], and place a nazi smuggled in from germany in charge of it [von braun]?

Anyone else make rockets as a kid?  They were dangerous, unreliable, impossible to predict, and always fell back to earth.  I have read that escape velocity [from the earth's gravitational field] is 25,000 miles per hour [that's 34 times the speed of sound].  No way a 7 million pound rocket achieved that speed, huh?  Nor would you ever find me sitting on top of that monster.


"conspiracy"

1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2. A group of conspirators.
3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design


Apollo is in the Bible, though.


11 Over them as king they have the angel of the Abyss (of the bottomless pit). In Hebrew his name is Abaddon [destruction], but in Greek he is called Apollyon [destroyer].

--Revelation 9:11

[WhiteWings]

Why would a Christian nation use a Hebrew name for their space program [nasa],

I think it's a great name. The letters have a obviously have a meaning in English plus the 'hidden' Hebrew meaning "there is an uplift" fits very well too.

[Paul Hazelwood]

Anyone else make rockets as a kid?  They were dangerous, unreliable, impossible to predict, and always fell back to earth.  I have read that escape velocity [from the earth's gravitational field] is 25,000 miles per hour [that's 34 times the speed of sound].  No way a 7 million pound rocket achieved that speed, huh?  Nor would you ever find me sitting on top of that monster.

Misconception
Planetary or lunar escape velocity is sometimes misunderstood to be the speed a powered vehicle (such as a rocket) must reach to leave orbit; however, this is not the case, as the quoted number is typically the surface escape velocity, and vehicles need never achieve that speed. This surface escape velocity is the speed required for an object to leave the planet if the object is simply projected from the surface of the planet and then left without any more kinetic energy input: in practice the vehicle's propulsion system will continue to provide energy after it has left the surface.

In fact a vehicle can leave the Earth's gravity at any speed. At higher altitudes, the local escape velocity is lower. But at the instant the propulsion stops, the vehicle can only escape if its speed is greater than or equal to the local escape velocity at that position. At sufficiently high altitudes this speed can approach 0.

[Paul Hazelwood]

As a rocket builder since I was a kid, the above is demonstrated simply by changing the propulsion device from a longer duration to a shorter duration with the same thrust.

The rocket does not begin the process to return to earth until the propulsion of the motor being used stops.

All you need is enough power and duration to lift the rocket at a speed to maintain it's stability.   

[Redlettervoice]

Why would a Christian nation use a Hebrew name for their space program [nasa],

I think it's a great name. The letters have a obviously have a meaning in English plus the 'hidden' Hebrew meaning "there is an uplift" fits very well too.


We will learn maybe after while that "all things are of GOD".....that's
a "big and HARD one" for me to swallow sometimes, to realize that
GOD made all things and that all things work "together" for our
good, especially after we been IN THE HOLY GHOST ........

Now, I said all that to preface this little bit that I am sharing. First,
I didn't know that Apollo meant "hidden one" in the Hebrew
words.  Good to know that..........lots of truth is "hidden."

Once I went to Lake Hamilton in Ark., there was this woman up
speaking and she was telling all about she used to work at Nasa
etc.  I sat there that day and wished she hurry and get thru with
her talking of her job and get on into the Word, when suddenly
the Spirit spoke to me: "LISTEN!"

So began her telling of the "first" man to reach the MOON.  Put
his feet on it.

All of a sudden my mind went to the scripture in Rev. 12 where
it says, "and she had the MOON under her feet."

So, I saw the Spiritual Truth......and I remembered that "first in
the natural, then in the Spirit, and it made more sense to me.
Helped me see too that all things are of God. 

[Molly]

Anyone else make rockets as a kid?  They were dangerous, unreliable, impossible to predict, and always fell back to earth.  I have read that escape velocity [from the earth's gravitational field] is 25,000 miles per hour [that's 34 times the speed of sound].  No way a 7 million pound rocket achieved that speed, huh?  Nor would you ever find me sitting on top of that monster.

Misconception
Planetary or lunar escape velocity is sometimes misunderstood to be the speed a powered vehicle (such as a rocket) must reach to leave orbit; however, this is not the case, as the quoted number is typically the surface escape velocity, and vehicles need never achieve that speed. This surface escape velocity is the speed required for an object to leave the planet if the object is simply projected from the surface of the planet and then left without any more kinetic energy input: in practice the vehicle's propulsion system will continue to provide energy after it has left the surface.

In fact a vehicle can leave the Earth's gravity at any speed. At higher altitudes, the local escape velocity is lower. But at the instant the propulsion stops, the vehicle can only escape if its speed is greater than or equal to the local escape velocity at that position. At sufficiently high altitudes this speed can approach 0.

They claim it reached escape velocity.

STAGE 3:  Last big push!  During stage 3 of the flight, Apollo 11 now had a smaller mass of 1,897,000 kg.  After reaching a maximum velocity of 10,835 m/s, Apollo 11 released the the thrid stage rocket booster and ignited the lunar spacecraft boosters. 

LAST STAGE:  To the moon!  All that remained was the spacecraft which continued moving toward the moon at an approximate maximum velocity of 10,835 m/s.


10,835 m/s equals 24,237.20 miles per hour.

[Paul Hazelwood]

For the record here I am not arguing any specific point concerning a conspiracy, I am providing what I feel is accurate information and others can draw their own conclusions.


At 43 miles high apollo 11 was going at a rate of 9300 feet per second which is approximatly 6340 miles per hour. 

http://history.nasa.gov/ap11fj/01launch.htm

[Molly]

For the record here I am not arguing any specific point concerning a conspiracy, I am providing what I feel is accurate information and others can draw their own conclusions.


At 43 miles high apollo 11 was going at a rate of 9300 feet per second which is approximatly 6340 miles per hour. 

http://history.nasa.gov/ap11fj/01launch.htm

Yes and at stage 3 they were going 24000 miles an hour, according to them.

[Paul Hazelwood]

For the record here I am not arguing any specific point concerning a conspiracy, I am providing what I feel is accurate information and others can draw their own conclusions.


At 43 miles high apollo 11 was going at a rate of 9300 feet per second which is approximatly 6340 miles per hour. 

http://history.nasa.gov/ap11fj/01launch.htm

Yes and at stage 3 they were going 24000 miles an hour.

That link appears to list the maximum velocity at 25,586 feet per second which is 17,445 miles per hour.   

[Molly]

For the record here I am not arguing any specific point concerning a conspiracy, I am providing what I feel is accurate information and others can draw their own conclusions.


At 43 miles high apollo 11 was going at a rate of 9300 feet per second which is approximatly 6340 miles per hour. 

http://history.nasa.gov/ap11fj/01launch.htm

Yes and at stage 3 they were going 24000 miles an hour.

That link appears to list the maximum velocity at 25,586 feet per second which is 17,445 miles per hour.   

I don't know what link you are looking at.  I didn't give you a link for the stage 3 because my computer crashed.

Here's another link.

The Apollo 11 spacecraft was launched from Cape Kennedy at 13:31:01 GMT on July 16, 1969. After 2 hr and 33 min in Earth orbit, the S-IVB rocket engine was reignited for acceleration of the spacecraft to the velocity required to escape Earth's gravity. Although at times the spacecraft reached speeds near 40,000 km/hr, the average speed was about 5500 km/hr .

http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/sepo/education/nav/dist.html

40,000 km/hr equals 24854 m/h

[Paul Hazelwood]

I was mistaken, in the link I provided it did not say that the figure I wrote was the maximum velocity it was only the speed at one point in the mission.

Just my opinion here and nothing more, I think the ones who may say it is all a hoax is exploiting the misconception of the escape velocity.

If apollo 11 has to reach the escape velocity at a very low altitude then the thrust to weight ratio of apollo 11 would make that impossible.  But apollo 11 did not have to do that.   The maximum speed attained had nothing to do with escaping earths atmosphere.


But anyway, I'd love to be strapped on top of that thing.  :)

[Molly]

I was mistaken, in the link I provided it did not say that the figure I wrote was the maximum velocity it was only the speed at one point in the mission.

Just my opinion here and nothing more, I think the ones who may say it is all a hoax is exploiting the misconception of the escape velocity.

If apollo 11 has to reach the escape velocity at a very low altitude then the thrust to weight ratio of apollo 11 would make that impossible.  But apollo 11 did not have to do that.   The maximum speed attained had nothing to do with escaping earths atmosphere.


But anyway, I'd love to be strapped on top of that thing.  :)

well, yes, they would have to reach escape velocity at a low altitude.  People forget how far away the moon is--about 238,000 miles.   They entered stage three in earth orbit which  would be around 200 miles above the earth if it did what the shuttle does today.  The earth's gravitational force is about 6 times that of the moon, so the earth's gravitational field would be dominating for 5/6's of the way there.  That's about 200,000 miles.

Even today, the space shuttle goes less than 300 miles above the earth.  So, 238,000 miles above the earth 40 years ago versus around 200 miles above the earth today.  Quite a difference!  And, 40 years ago, they didn't have the computer on a chip!  That's some rocket.

[Molly]

Military planning for possible H1N1 outbreak

July 29, 2009 -- Updated 0220 GMT (1020 HKT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military wants to establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials.

The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. Northern Command's Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary.

The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military.

It has yet to be determined how many troops would be needed and whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces.

Civilian authorities would lead any relief efforts in the event of a major outbreak, the official said. The military, as they would for a natural disaster or other significant emergency situation, could provide support and fulfill any tasks that civilian authorities could not, such as air transport or testing of large numbers of viral samples from infected patients.

As a first step, Gates is being asked to sign a so-called "execution order" that would authorize the military to begin to conduct the detailed planning to execute the proposed plan.

Orders to deploy actual forces would be reviewed later, depending on how much of a health threat the flu poses this fall, the officials said.


http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/07/28/military.swine.flu/


These people haven't heard of Posse Comitatus?


The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (today the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

[WhiteWings]

Here the hype seems to cool down a bit.
Still several SwinFlu articles a day but no longer hinting the flu is extremely dangerous.
Just some tips like wash hands often. Let fresh air in your house. Etc.
And for those who have the symptoms often 'take a good rest' sorta advise is given.
Of course still some doom and gloom articles. But as said the the temp is going down :winkgrin:

[SQ]

A couple I know in their early 40's went to Forida when they got back home they were sick with swine flu, the doctor has them on steroids and other meds.
I have no clue how bad the flu will be, but my husband thinks the government is responsible.  :sigh:

[WhiteWings]

How bad it will be....
Big pharma surely wants to make it sound almosts deadly to sell their stuff.
According to other articles it's no more dangerous than the usual flu.
2 to 10 days and it's gone.
What makes this flu different is that it is of a totally new type.
So our immume system will get a bit more busy. And possibly more people will get the this flu.
Yesterday big headlines here: First dead by Swine Flu.
Then read the article and the story changes. The person alreday was terminally ill before he got the flu. Seems many of the reported death were already very ill people.
Then even a mild flu can be the final blow. But to report that as caused by the flu....

[Molly]

It should be noted that these unnaturally evolved, man-made viruses are far less genetically stable.  They are more fragile.  They mutate more rapidly than naturally evolved viruses.   

--Dr. Len Horowitz, In Lies We Trust, at video.google.com

[Molly]

From The Sunday Times
January 6, 2008

For sale: West's deadly nuclear secrets
Insight: Chris Gourlay, Jonathan Calvert, Joe Lauria

A WHISTLEBLOWER has made a series of extraordinary claims about how corrupt government officials allowed Pakistan and other states to steal nuclear weapons secrets.

Sibel Edmonds, a 37-year-old former Turkish language translator for the FBI, listened into hundreds of sensitive intercepted conversations while based at the agency's Washington field office.

She approached The Sunday Times last month after reading about an Al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.

Edmonds described how foreign intelligence agents had enlisted the support of US officials to acquire a network of moles in sensitive military and nuclear institutions.

Among the hours of covert tape recordings, she says she heard evidence that one well-known senior official in the US State Department was being paid by Turkish agents in Washington who were selling the information on to black market buyers, including Pakistan.

The name of the official – who has held a series of top government posts – is known to The Sunday Times. He strongly denies the claims.

However, Edmonds said: "He was aiding foreign operatives against US interests by passing them highly classified information, not only from the State Department but also from the Pentagon, in exchange for money, position and political objectives."

She claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials – including household names – who were aiding foreign agents.

"If you made public all the information that the FBI have on this case, you will see very high-level people going through criminal trials," she said.

Her story shows just how much the West was infiltrated by foreign states seeking nuclear secrets. It illustrates how western government officials turned a blind eye to, or were even helping, countries such as Pakistan acquire bomb technology.

The wider nuclear network has been monitored for many years by a joint Anglo-American intelligence effort. But rather than shut it down, investigations by law enforcement bodies such as the FBI and Britain's Revenue & Customs have been aborted to preserve diplomatic relations.

Edmonds, a fluent speaker of Turkish and Farsi, was recruited by the FBI in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. Her previous claims about incompetence inside the FBI have been well documented in America.

She has given evidence to closed sessions of Congress and the 9/11 commission, but many of the key points of her testimony have remained secret. She has now decided to divulge some of that information after becoming disillusioned with the US authorities' failure to act.

One of Edmonds's main roles in the FBI was to translate thousands of hours of conversations by Turkish diplomatic and political targets that had been covertly recorded by the agency.

A backlog of tapes had built up, dating back to 1997, which were needed for an FBI investigation into links between the Turks and Pakistani, Israeli and US targets. Before she left the FBI in 2002 she heard evidence that pointed to money laundering, drug imports and attempts to acquire nuclear and conventional weapons technology.

"What I found was damning," she said. "While the FBI was investigating, several arms of the government were shielding what was going on."

The Turks and Israelis had planted "moles" in military and academic institutions which handled nuclear technology. Edmonds says there were several transactions of nuclear material every month, with the Pakistanis being among the eventual buyers. "The network appeared to be obtaining information from every nuclear agency in the United States," she said.

They were helped, she says, by the high-ranking State Department official who provided some of their moles – mainly PhD students – with security clearance to work in sensitive nuclear research facilities. These included the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory in New Mexico, which is responsible for the security of the US nuclear deterrent.

In one conversation Edmonds heard the official arranging to pick up a $15,000 cash bribe. The package was to be dropped off at an agreed location by someone in the Turkish diplomatic community who was working for the network.

The Turks, she says, often acted as a conduit for the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan's spy agency, because they were less likely to attract suspicion. Venues such as the American Turkish Council in Washington were used to drop off the cash, which was picked up by the official.

Edmonds said: "I heard at least three transactions like this over a period of 2½ years. There are almost certainly more."

The Pakistani operation was led by General Mahmoud Ahmad, then the ISI chief.

Intercepted communications showed Ahmad and his colleagues stationed in Washington were in constant contact with attachés in the Turkish embassy.

Intelligence analysts say that members of the ISI were close to Al-Qaeda before and after 9/11. Indeed, Ahmad was accused of sanctioning a $100,000 wire payment to Mohammed Atta, one of the 9/11 hijackers, immediately before the attacks.

The results of the espionage were almost certainly passed to Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani nuclear scientist.

Khan was close to Ahmad and the ISI. While running Pakistan's nuclear programme, he became a millionaire by selling atomic secrets to Libya, Iran and North Korea. He also used a network of companies in America and Britain to obtain components for a nuclear programme.

Khan caused an alert among western intelligence agencies when his aides met Osama Bin Laden. "We were aware of contact between A Q Khan's people and Al-Qaeda," a former CIA officer said last week. "There was absolute panic when we initially discovered this, but it kind of panned out in the end."

It is likely that the nuclear secrets stolen from the United States would have been sold to a number of rogue states by Khan.

Edmonds was later to see the scope of the Pakistani connections when it was revealed that one of her fellow translators at the FBI was the daughter of a Pakistani embassy official who worked for Ahmad. The translator was given top secret clearance despite protests from FBI investigators.

Edmonds says packages containing nuclear secrets were delivered by Turkish operatives, using their cover as members of the diplomatic and military community, to contacts at the Pakistani embassy in Washington.

Following 9/11, a number of the foreign operatives were taken in for questioning by the FBI on suspicion that they knew about or somehow aided the attacks.

Edmonds said the State Department official once again proved useful. "A primary target would call the official and point to names on the list and say, 'We need to get them out of the US because we can't afford for them to spill the beans'," she said. "The official said that he would 'take care of it'."

The four suspects on the list were released from interrogation and extradited.

Edmonds also claims that a number of senior officials in the Pentagon had helped Israeli and Turkish agents.

"The people provided lists of potential moles from Pentagon-related institutions who had access to databases concerning this information," she said.

"The handlers, who were part of the diplomatic community, would then try to recruit those people to become moles for the network. The lists contained all their 'hooking points', which could be financial or sexual pressure points, their exact job in the Pentagon and what stuff they had access to."

One of the Pentagon figures under investigation was Lawrence Franklin, a former Pentagon analyst, who was jailed in 2006 for passing US defence information to lobbyists and sharing classified information with an Israeli diplomat.

"He was one of the top people providing information and packages during 2000 and 2001," she said.

Once acquired, the nuclear secrets could have gone anywhere. The FBI monitored Turkish diplomats who were selling copies of the information to the highest bidder.

Edmonds said: "Certain greedy Turkish operators would make copies of the material and look around for buyers. They had agents who would find potential buyers."

In summer 2000, Edmonds says the FBI monitored one of the agents as he met two Saudi Arabian businessmen in Detroit to sell nuclear information that had been stolen from an air force base in Alabama. She overheard the agent saying: "We have a package and we're going to sell it for $250,000."

Edmonds's employment with the FBI lasted for just six months. In March 2002 she was dismissed after accusing a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals.

She has always claimed that she was victimised for being outspoken and was vindicated by an Office of the Inspector General review of her case three years later. It found that one of the contributory reasons for her sacking was that she had made valid complaints.

The US attorney-general has imposed a state secrets privilege order on her, which prevents her revealing more details of the FBI's methods and current investigations.

Her allegations were heard in a closed session of Congress, but no action has been taken and she continues to campaign for a public hearing.

She was able to discuss the case with The Sunday Times because, by the end of January 2002, the justice department had shut down the programme.

The senior official in the State Department no longer works there. Last week he denied all of Edmonds's allegations: "If you are calling me to say somebody said that I took money, that's outrageous . . . I do not have anything to say about such stupid ridiculous things as this."

In researching this article, The Sunday Times has talked to two FBI officers (one serving, one former) and two former CIA sources who worked on nuclear proliferation. While none was aware of specific allegations against officials she names, they did provide overlapping corroboration of Edmonds's story.

One of the CIA sources confirmed that the Turks had acquired nuclear secrets from the United States and shared the information with Pakistan and Israel. "We have no indication that Turkey has its own nuclear ambitions. But the Turks are traders. To my knowledge they became big players in the late 1990s," the source said.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece

[WhiteWings]

I always wondered why here we have some noobs entering the political arena and a few years later they run the show.
Must be the superior US education....
http://exchanges.state.gov/ivlp/alumni.html

[Paul Hazelwood]

well, yes, they would have to reach escape velocity at a low altitude.  People forget how far away the moon is--about 238,000 miles. 

My reference to a low altitude was in comparison to the earths atmosphere, sorry for thaT misunderstanding. 

The rocket never had to reach 24,000 mph to escape earths gravity, that is a fact. The Maximum speed the rocket attained never had anything to do with what speed was required of the rocket to escape earth.   The actual escape velocity has to do with the speed that is necessary to maintain the rockets stability in a certain direction.

Again,  just clarifying those things in case the consiracy buffs think that space flight is a hoax based upon the misunderstanding of a powered rocket in comparison to speed required of an unpowered object to escape earths gravity.

in otherwords the misunderstanding that an object has to reach 24,000 + mph to escape earths gravity is based on the speed of an object that would be launched by a catapult, rather than an object that maintained power on it's own until it escaped.

[Molly]

Sibel Edmonds Documentary--Kill the Messenger


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6063340745569143497&ei=2kiASpjuJsKllQf5-M2PCg&q=kill+the+messenger


Matthew 10:16
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

[Molly]

in otherwords the misunderstanding that an object has to reach 24,000 + mph to escape earths gravity is based on the speed of an object that would be launched by a catapult, rather than an object that maintained power on it's own until it escaped.

Oh, really?  Why don't you explain to me how a 1969 rocket could reach a speed of 32 times the speed of sound [24,576 mph], how it could remain intact under such a speed, how it could carry enough fuel to travel 200,000 miles against the force of the earth's gravity?  And, when you are done answering that, I have a lot of other questions for you.

After all, it's only rocket science.  Even a child can do it.

[Paul Hazelwood]

in otherwords the misunderstanding that an object has to reach 24,000 + mph to escape earths gravity is based on the speed of an object that would be launched by a catapult, rather than an object that maintained power on it's own until it escaped.

Oh, really?  Why don't you explain to me how a 1969 rocket could reach a speed of 32 times the speed of sound [24,576 mph], how it could remain intact under such a speed, how it could carry enough fuel to travel 200,000 miles against the force of the earth's gravity?  And, when you are done answering that, I have a lot of other questions for you.

After all, it's only rocket science.  Even a child can do it.

The same forces in space are not exerted on the rocket like they are in earths atmosphere.  Those rockets never attained those speeds within earths atmosphere.  So those speeds in space would not affect the rocket the same as they would directly in the earths atmosphere.

The further away a rockets gets from earth the less gravitional force there is on the object.

After all, it's only rocket science.  Even a child can do it.

There are some very bright children in the world.  Many of them understand more than people give them credit for.

[Molly]

The same forces in space are not exerted on the rocket like they are in earths atmosphere.  Those rockets never attained those speeds within earths atmosphere.  So those speeds in space would not affect the rocket the same as they would directly in the earths atmosphere.
The further away a rockets gets from earth the less gravitional force there is on the object.

Not quite sure what you consider the earth's atmosphere--

As for the gravitational force decreasing, it is true that the force is inversely proportional to the distance.  But, let's face it, 238,000 miles is still a very long distance, and the gravitational force of the big ball (earth) is still enough at that distance to keep the little ball (moon) spinning around it.  But no force is a problem for that rocket!

I think such bland statements is what has gotten us into trouble in the first place.  I  think even 17,000 mph in low earth orbit is suspect.  Do you think even that is a reasonable speed with that technology?  But, Americans have never had much respect for numbers--what's a few trillion more or less.

The temperature of the Earth's atmosphere varies with altitude; the mathematical relationship between temperature and altitude varies among five different atmospheric layers (ordered highest to lowest, the ionosphere is part of the thermosphere):

Exosphere
From 500–1,000 km (310–620 mi; 1,600,000–3,300,000 ft) up to 10,000 km (6,200 mi; 33,000,000 ft), contain free-moving particles that may migrate into and out of the magnetosphere or the solar wind.

Exobase
Also known as the 'critical level', it is the lower boundary of the exosphere.

Ionosphere
The part of the atmosphere that is ionized by solar radiation stretches from 50 to 1,000 km (31 to 620 mi; 160,000 to 3,300,000 ft) and typically overlaps both the exosphere and the thermosphere. It plays an important part in atmospheric electricity and forms the inner edge of the magnetosphere. Because of its charged particles, it has practical importance because it influences, for example, radio propagation on the Earth. It is responsible for auroras.

Thermopause
The boundary above the thermosphere, it varies in height from 500–1,000 km (310–620 mi; 1,600,000–3,300,000 ft).

Thermosphere
From 80–85 km (50–53 mi; 260,000–280,000 ft) to over 640 km (400 mi; 2,100,000 ft), temperature increasing with height. The temperature of this layer can rise to 1,500 °C (2,730 °F). The International Space Station orbits in this layer, between 320 and 380 km (200 and 240 mi).

Mesopause
The temperature minimum at the boundary between the thermosphere and the mesosphere. It is the coldest place on Earth, with a temperature of −100 °C (−148.0 °F; 173.1 K).

Mesosphere
From the Greek word "μέσος" meaning middle. The mesosphere extends from about 50 km (31 mi; 160,000 ft) to the range of 80–85 km (50–53 mi; 260,000–280,000 ft). Temperature decreases with height, reaching −100 °C (−148.0 °F; 173.1 K) in the upper mesosphere. This is also where most meteors burn up when entering the atmosphere.

Stratopause
The boundary between the mesosphere and the stratosphere, typically 50 to 55 km (31 to 34 mi; 160,000 to 180,000 ft). The pressure here is 1/1000th sea level.

Stratosphere
From the Latin word "stratus" meaning spreading out. The stratosphere extends from the troposphere's 7–17 km (4.3–11 mi; 23,000–56,000 ft) range to about 51 km (32 mi; 170,000 ft). Temperature increases with height. The stratosphere contains the ozone layer, the part of the Earth's atmosphere which contains relatively high concentrations of ozone. "Relatively high" means a few parts per million—much higher than the concentrations in the lower atmosphere but still small compared to the main components of the atmosphere. It is mainly located in the lower portion of the stratosphere from approximately 15–35 km (9.3–22 mi; 49,000–110,000 ft) above Earth's surface, though the thickness varies seasonally and geographically.

Ozone Layer
Though part of the Stratosphere, the ozone layer is considered as a layer of the Earth's atmosphere in itself because its physical and chemical composition is far different from the Stratosphere. Ozone (O3) in the Earth's stratosphere is created by ultraviolet light striking oxygen molecules containing two oxygen atoms (O2), splitting them into individual oxygen atoms (atomic oxygen); the atomic oxygen then combines with unbroken O2 to create O3. O3 is unstable (although, in the stratosphere, long-lived) and when ultraviolet light hits ozone it splits into a molecule of O2 and an atom of atomic oxygen, a continuing process called the ozone-oxygen cycle. This occurs in the ozone layer, the region from about 10 to 50 km (33,000 to 160,000 ft) above Earth's surface. About 90% of the ozone in our atmosphere is contained in the stratosphere. Ozone concentrations are greatest between about 20 and 40 km (66,000 and 130,000 ft), where they range from about 2 to 8 parts per million.

Tropopause
The boundary between the stratosphere and troposphere.
Troposphere
From the Greek word "τρέπω" meaning to turn or change. The troposphere is the lowest layer of the atmosphere; it begins at the surface and extends to between 7 km (23,000 ft) at the poles and 17 km (56,000 ft) at the equator, with some variation due to weather factors. The troposphere has a great deal of vertical mixing because of solar heating at the area. This heating makes air masses less dense so they rise. When an air mass rises, the pressure upon it decreases so it expands, doing work against the opposing pressure of the surrounding air. To do work is to expend energy, so the temperature of the air mass decreases. As the temperature decreases, water vapor in the air mass may condense or solidify, releasing latent heat that further uplifts the air mass. This process determines the maximum rate of decline of temperature with height, called the adiabatic lapse rate. The troposphere contains roughly 80% of the total mass of the atmosphere. Fifty percent of the total mass of the atmosphere is located in the lower 5.6 km (18,000 ft) of the troposphere.

The average temperature of the atmosphere at the surface of Earth is 14 °C (57 °F; 287 K)[1] or 15 °C (59 °F; 288 K)[2], depending on the reference.[3] [4][5]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_atmosphere

[Paul Hazelwood]

Not quite sure what you consider the earth's atmosphere--

The earths atmosphere gets less dense the higher you go so it will react less against an object as you get higher up.   

As for the gravitational force decreasing, it is true that the force is inversely proportional to the distance.  But, let's face it, 238,000 miles is still a very long distance, and the gravitational force of the big ball (earth) is still enough at that distance to keep the little ball (moon) spinning around it.  But no force is a problem for that rocket!

The moon has a much greater mass than a rocket which increases it's own gravitational pull in comparison to the mass of the rocket.  That coupled with the manner in which the rocket is propelled (thrust) in relationship to its mass is a factor. As for the earth keeping the moon at bay, that is not entirely true, the moon is moving further away from the earth.

I think such bland statements is what has gotten us into trouble in the first place.  I  think even 17,000 mph in low earth orbit is suspect.  Do you think even that is a reasonable speed with that technology?  But, Americans have never had much respect for numbers--what's a few trillion more or less.

I have been generalizing and in this thread in this context will not apologize for it as the generalizations are enough to cause question of any evidence a hoax conclusion actually provides.

I have already shown that it appears the hoax theories exploit the misunderstanding of escape velocity, anything beyond that is biased by that same misunderstanding,  but you are free to believe what you want.