Carbon - The number of the beast

[Taffy]

-- lest the LORD now is expecting ANIMALs to repent and believe as well just because they are Living souls---

So, then, there is a qualitative difference between the man and the beast?  For which cause man was not given dominion over other men [whom he might consider beasts unlike himself] but over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. [Gen 1]

No man has dominion over anOther as all are THE LORDS-

ALL animals have a Nature like sheep and doves ect  declaring a certain nature and Characteristics ---- The allegory of DOMINION over BEASTS  MEANS TO rule over them IN YOU---- the Lion , the serpent, the bear[ lies] the frog  all known as BEASTS etc--- :icon_flower:

[Molly]

as job stated-- MEN are counted as BEASTS to be reputed VILE in HIS"""""SIGHT
CHEW this anyway you like Molly--- Blesings :icon_flower:

Job didn't say that.  One of his 'helpful friends' said that.

To which Job replied--

Job 19:2  How long will ye vex my soul, and break me in pieces with words?

And concluded with this--

25For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

26And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

27Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

--Job 19

[Taffy]

SORRY in job-  But many forget Job was RIGHTEOUS- :icon_flower:

STILL DOESNT negate the comment :icon_flower:

[WhiteWings]

I understood that Shawn.
What do you see in the number 18?


65% Oxygen
18% Carbon
10% Hydrogen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body

I totally overlooked that  :msealed:

Three 6's.

[WhiteWings]

thanks for the science. So only carbon is 666. Warning acronym ahead. We breath out carbon 666, equivalent to breathing out our old man and breathing in oxygen the new man 888

We breath out Carbon dioxide. Better known by CO2.
That means 1 carbon atom (666) and 2 oxygen atoms (888)

6   6   6
8   8   8
8   8   8
-----------  +
22 22 22

(Any idea's on 22?)

Of course our breath contains much more. Like water. And oxygen because our lungs only use 5% (???) of the oxygen we breath in.
CO2 is a waste product of burning. All you eat and drink basicly turns back to it's base form carbon and oxygen.
All our food is plant material. Cow meat once was grass. Lion mean is made of zebra meat which ate grass. Grass 'eats' dust.
God blew the breath of life into dust. When we die the dust and breath seperate again.

[WhiteWings]

ITs a Picture WW-- I dnt believe scripture declares the Names--- but one would see a ROUND table Not those to the LEFT or Right

The Last Supper specifically portrays the reaction given by each apostle when Jesus said one of them would betray him. All twelve apostles have different reactions to the news, with various degrees of anger and shock. The apostles are identified from a manuscript (The Notebooks of Leonardo Da Vinci p. 232) with their names found in the 19th century. (Before this, only Judas, Peter, John and Jesus were positively identified.) From left to right:

   
• Bartholomew, James, son of Alphaeus and Andrew form a group of three, all are surprised.
• Judas Iscariot, Peter and John form another group of three. Judas is wearing green and blue and is in shadow, looking rather withdrawn and taken aback by the sudden revelation of his plan. He is clutching a small bag, perhaps signifying the silver given to him as payment to betray Jesus, or perhaps a reference to his role within the 12 disciples as treasurer.^[4] He is also tipping over the salt shaker. This may be related to the near-Eastern expression to "betray the salt" meaning to betray one's Master. He is the only person to have his elbow on the table and his head is also horizontally the lowest of anyone in the painting. Peter looks angry and is holding a knife pointed away from Christ, perhaps foreshadowing his violent reaction in Gethsemane during Jesus' arrest. The youngest apostle, John, appears to swoon.
• Jesus
• Apostle Thomas, James the Greater and Philip are the next group of three. Thomas is clearly upset; James the Greater looks stunned, with his arms in the air. Meanwhile, Philip appears to be requesting some explanation.
• Matthew, Jude Thaddeus and Simon the Zealot are the final group of three. Both Jude Thaddeus and Matthew are turned toward Simon, perhaps to find out if he has any answer to their initial questions.

[shawn]

thanks for the science. So only carbon is 666. Warning acronym ahead. We breath out carbon 666, equivalent to breathing out our old man and breathing in oxygen the new man 888

We breath out Carbon dioxide. Better known by CO2.
That means 1 carbon atom (666) and 2 oxygen atoms (888)

6   6   6
8   8   8
8   8   8
-----------  +
22 22 22

(Any idea's on 22?)

Of course our breath contains much more. Like water. And oxygen because our lungs only use 5% (???) of the oxygen we breath in.
It's CO2 is a waste product of burning. All you eat and drink basicly turns back to it's base form carbon and oxygen.
All our food is plant material. Cow meat once was grass. Lion mean is made of zebra meat which ate grass. Grass 'eats' dust.
God blew the breath of life into dust. When we die the dust and breath seperate again.

This has something interesting to say about the number 22.

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_22.asp

[WhiteWings]

thanks for the science. So only carbon is 666. Warning acronym ahead. We breath out carbon 666, equivalent to breathing out our old man and breathing in oxygen the new man 888

We breath out Carbon dioxide. Better known by CO2.
That means 1 carbon atom (666) and 2 oxygen atoms (888)

6   6   6
8   8   8
8   8   8
-----------  +
22 22 22

(Any idea's on 22?)

Of course our breath contains much more. Like water. And oxygen because our lungs only use 5% (???) of the oxygen we breath in.
It's CO2 is a waste product of burning. All you eat and drink basicly turns back to it's base form carbon and oxygen.
All our food is plant material. Cow meat once was grass. Lion mean is made of zebra meat which ate grass. Grass 'eats' dust.
God blew the breath of life into dust. When we die the dust and breath seperate again.

This has something interesting to say about the number 22.

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_22.asp

How I overlook that   :sigh:
Ten days ago I wrote

Josephus Aaronic Priest (of the first rank) wrote the whole word of God was in 22 books.
Jubilees is a commentary of the dead sea scroll sect.
22 is a special number:
- 22 letter in the Hebrew alphabet
- 22 books in OT
- God created 22 things in 6 days. Adam was the 22nd creation.
- 22 Generations from Adam to Jacob/Israel. That's 22 generations to a spiritual creation.

22 is completion.
Will we only be complete after being "burned up" ?

[shawn]

Carbon Dioxide is the part of the life cycle...a circle if you will.  Carbon Dioxide is used by plants in photosythesis...which plants ultimately produce oxygen.  According to the article I listed...the number 22 represents a circle.  Carbon dioxide is our waste...an end product of our life sustaining metabolism.  This is used by plants and their end product is oxygen.  That is a circle if I have ever seen one.  :)

Math is the only universal language.  Would there be a better or more universal way to communicate with all of humanity, other than direct revelation to the heart by the Holy Spirit?

[Taffy]

Math is the only universal language.  Would there be a better or more universal way to communicate with all of humanity, other than direct revelation to the heart by the Holy Spirit?

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so Einstien was RIGHT that this universe was by divine creation NOT by no mre chance-  :icon_flower:

Parables are wheels within WHEELS---the CICULAR  BOWLS of light in the Temple filled with OIL is the LORD by the LIGHT we WORK---Christ CIRCLED :icon_flower: the SEA OF GALILIEE  during HIS ministry ,WHICH IS ALSO called the sea of the harp-- take a Look at the shape-- mere Chance----  :icon_flower:

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Sea_of_galilee_map_1903.jpg&imgrefurl=http://lyricsdog.eu/s/map%2520of%2520sea%2520of%2520galilee&usg=__Q0otMMSJ5Mi7UOi7nSRqsR8fzUk=&h=655&w=596&sz=279&hl=en&start=53&zoom=1&tbnid=1BSIXjItS0kkLM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=106&ei=PwizTa65Ms24hAfL95DkDw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpictures%2Bsea%2Bof%2Bgalilee%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GCNV_en%26biw%3D1003%26bih%3D494%26tbm%3Disch0%2C1556&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=522&vpy=146&dur=18110&hovh=235&hovw=214&tx=146&ty=121&page=5&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:53&biw=1003&bih=494

for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
The Harp is a symbol of Light and revelation[ REVELATION being continual] making known the mysteries[ parables]-TO PROPHESY giving edification [ building in love, exhortation comfort and the Voice of praise to them That believe -its the LORD which unlocks the veil of every soul - all is HIS WORK

Its said that Davids Harp had Twenty 22 Strings, each string a representation of the Letters of the Hewbrew Alphet - , ALL refer to YHWH= LOVE being the LIGHT of the WORLD - 22 is the Number of Light in the scriptures- on the Candlestick In the Temple= the LIGHT of the OIL which had to be kept LIT 24\7by the priests lest they were unable to""WORK"""
Exd 25:33 Three bowls made like unto almonds, [with] a knop and a flower in one branch; and three bowls made like almonds in the other branch, [with] a knop and a flower: so in the six branches that come out of the candlestick.
Exd 25:34 And in the candlestick [shall be] four bowls made like unto almonds, [with] their knops and their flowers. =22
the Number of the LEVITES[ preisthood were 22, 000[numbers 3:39
its by **HIS""LIGHT revelation[ theLifting of the veil] we Understand
Psa 49:4 I will incline mine ear to a parable: I will open my dark[ RIDDLE] saying upon the harp.
HES the LIGHT which reveals the Hidden Mystries [ parables] hidden from the carnal MIND, its why the LORD spoke in PUBLIC only In Parables- for they were only to be Understood by those Given to understand[ as were the disciples, after HE explained them]
therefore the HARP prophesys , Making known to those who Believe the greater Mysteries- also a symbol of edification[ building up in LOVE, exhortation COMFORT and PRAISE

when david Played His Harp for saul he was Comforted , THE EVIL SPIRIT LEAVING him
1Sa 16:23 And it came to pass, when the [evil] spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.

again to prophesy is for those who belive consider
1Cr 14:1

this why PRoPHESY IS OF no private interpretation- AS ALL COMES FROM THE LORD by those who reveal to THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED WITH ears and eyes receive from the LORD

[shawn]

Interesting stuff Taffy, but I don't believe Einstein believed in God.

[Taffy]

Interesting stuff Taffy, but I don't believe Einstein believed in God.

:icon_flower: I  believe thats true shawn--- But I recall reading he said something like the post above,as he came to conclude  there were 1000 doors of the next level to enter , by entering one it opened another 1000- and so on-?-- it must have drove  him almost plainly MAD-- knowing the more he unravelled the BIGGER the equation become----- :icon_flower:

[shawn]

Interesting stuff Taffy, but I don't believe Einstein believed in God.

:icon_flower: I  believe thats true shawn--- But I recall reading he said something like the post above,as he came to conclude  there were 1000 doors of the next level to enter , by entering one it opened another 1000- and so on-?-- it must have drove  him almost plainly MAD-- knowing the more he unravelled the BIGGER the equation become----- :icon_flower:

Einstein has been attributed to "believing in God" but he clarified his position later.  As with most scientists, since they can't measure or study God, it's a hard stance for them to take.

[Taffy]

Interesting stuff Taffy, but I don't believe Einstein believed in God.

:icon_flower: I  believe thats true shawn--- But I recall reading he said something like the post above,as he came to conclude  there were 1000 doors of the next level to enter , by entering one it opened another 1000- and so on-?-- it must have drove  him almost plainly MAD-- knowing the more he unravelled the BIGGER the equation become----- :icon_flower:

Einstein has been attributed to "believing in God" but he clarified his position later.  As with most scientists, since they can't measure or study God, it's a hard stance for them to take.

- :icon_flower:

From there stand point One couldnt understand-- that 1000 drs ?-I believe is a Misquote- as My brother is very friendly witha physicist--.im pretty sure he mentioned that to him :icon_flower:

[shawn]

Interesting stuff Taffy, but I don't believe Einstein believed in God.

:icon_flower: I  believe thats true shawn--- But I recall reading he said something like the post above,as he came to conclude  there were 1000 doors of the next level to enter , by entering one it opened another 1000- and so on-?-- it must have drove  him almost plainly MAD-- knowing the more he unravelled the BIGGER the equation become----- :icon_flower:

Einstein has been attributed to "believing in God" but he clarified his position later.  As with most scientists, since they can't measure or study God, it's a hard stance for them to take.

- :icon_flower:

From there stand point One couldnt understand-- that 1000 drs ?-I believe is a Misquote- as My brother is very friendly witha physicist--.im pretty sure he mentioned that to him :icon_flower:

Being at least in part, scientifically minded I always seen science and God as congruent...science the study of God's creation.  And on that level, I would still hold that position.  But, the scientific mind is the natural mind...and can only see natural things.  Only objects, elements, atoms it can touch, measure and evaluate.  It's this mind set that is the exact opposite of the spiritual mind set.  So for me, it has been a long road being able to train my mind to think scientifically in my day to day activities at work, yet embrace a spiritual mind which is the exact opposite.  It doesn't shock me in the slightest that most scientists never find the balance...and disregard one for the other.

[Taffy]

Interesting stuff Taffy, but I don't believe Einstein believed in God.

:icon_flower: I  believe thats true shawn--- But I recall reading he said something like the post above,as he came to conclude  there were 1000 doors of the next level to enter , by entering one it opened another 1000- and so on-?-- it must have drove  him almost plainly MAD-- knowing the more he unravelled the BIGGER the equation become----- :icon_flower:

Einstein has been attributed to "believing in God" but he clarified his position later.  As with most scientists, since they can't measure or study God, it's a hard stance for them to take.

- :icon_flower:

From there stand point One couldnt understand-- that 1000 drs ?-I believe is a Misquote- as My brother is very friendly witha physicist--.im pretty sure he mentioned that to him :icon_flower:

Being at least in part, scientifically minded I always seen science and God as congruent...science the study of God's creation.  And on that level, I would still hold that position.  But, the scientific mind is the natural mind...and can only see natural things.  Only objects, elements, atoms it can touch, measure and evaluate.  It's this mind set that is the exact opposite of the spiritual mind set.  So for me, it has been a long road being able to train my mind to think scientifically in my day to day activities at work, yet embrace a spiritual mind which is the exact opposite.  It doesn't shock me in the slightest that most scientists never find the balance...and disregard one for the other.

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If I may say thats an excellent evaluation :HeartThrob:
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[thinktank]

Yes, but in these modern times, science is moving rapidly, coupled with the increasing level of technology, science is peering more into the unknown, by looking at matter on a quantum and energetic level. This type of science is not welcomed much in tradditional science, but I don't blame them. To learn something that takes an entire lifetime and accept as fact, only to have to unlearn what has been learned, because much of the theories and findings in quantum physics goes against typical expected behaviour of tradditional physics. But sooner or later the tradditions must make way to the new way of doing things.

[thinktank]

JOB gets IT- :icon_flower:

Job 18:3   Wherefore are we counted as beasts, [and] reputed vile in your sight?   :icon_flower:


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Yes that's why he said AS beasts.

There is a difference between man Is a beast and Man counted AS a beast.

If a man killed people in cold blood, people might say he is as a beast, they might even call him a beast, but that does not change the fact that he is a man.

Did you read the post about Nebunezzer?

This man who is a world ruler that God makes judgments against, a man that could be considered among one of the worst tyrants in history. God says even he has a heart of a man and has to command angels to give him a heart of a beast.

[Taffy]

check AS beasts--you may find the scripture

Wherefore are we counted  beasts, [and] reputed vile in your sight?

your spliting hairs which are not there---- :icon_flower:

Aname is given to define a Nature- just how many names were changed in scripture?--- ... ie- :icon_flower:saul becomes Paul= SMALLER--- The fact a Man is aIS A MAN holds no reference to his Nature-  maybe you MISS this TT- 

[Molly]

The word for animals in the greek is zoon, [from which our word zoo derives.]  But the beast in the mark of the beast is not a furry little zoo animal.  The word--therion-- means a dangerous, venomous, wild beast--a monster.  If it is referring to a man, this man will be part human part something else most horrible.



G2342
θηρίον
thērion
thay-ree'-on
Diminutive from the same as G2339; a dangerous animal: - (venomous, wild) beast.

[Taffy]

The word for animals in the greek is zoon, [from which our word zoo derives.]  But the beast in the mark of the beast is not a furry little zoo animal.  The word means a dangerous, venomous, wild beast--a monster.



G2342
θηρίον
thērion
thay-ree'-on
Diminutive from the same as G2339; a dangerous animal: - (venomous, wild) beast.

yeah right-- nothing more dangerous then the carnal mind-- take a Look at the WORLD around you and the ENMITY to each man his brother- even so, the most vicious act EVER is not Hitler or deposts before slaughtering MAN-- BUT the CARNAL MIND which SLEW the LORD-- tis why Paul says what he HE  DID--- some ANIMAL Molly - :icon_flower:

[Molly]

What Paul did is small potatoes compared to the beasts of the 20th century, Taffy.

Evil is maturing, and although it might have a human component,  it's not human.

[thinktank]

check AS beasts--you may find the scripture

Wherefore are we counted  beasts, [and] reputed vile in your sight?

your spliting hairs which are not there---- :icon_flower:

Aname is given to define a Nature- just how many names were changed in scripture?--- ... ie- :icon_flower:saul becomes Paul= SMALLER--- The fact a Man is aIS A MAN holds no reference to his Nature-  maybe you MISS this TT-

Genesis 9:6
Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

Man is a reference to when we were first called man, which is that we are made in Gods image. That is mans nature.

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Man has dominion over the beasts. Man has dominion over demons, see the connection?

# Matthew 12:24
But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

# Matthew 12:26
And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

[thinktank]

Man can mean 1 man or Humanity as a whole, but A man or a man means one man.

I saw a man the other day, allways means I saw one man or a particular man.


thanks for the science. So only carbon is 666. Warning acronym ahead. We breath out carbon 666, equivalent to breathing out our old man and breathing in oxygen the new man 888. Although I don't know what the number 888 means in scripture, it probably has some meaning attached to it.

Adam was created on the 8th day.  Jews circumcised on the 8th day. Temple dedicated on the 8th day.  Christ resurrected on the 8th day.

888 is also the word value of Jesus.

Any thoughts on post #5???
Carbon-7 the atom that carries thoughts :sigh: :sigh: :sigh: :sigh: :sigh:
Especially the last supper part.

why the long face?

what is carbon - 7?

[Taffy]

Man is a reference to when we were first called man, which is that we are made in Gods image. That is mans nature

YOU MEAN we were born with the nature of God becuase of the IMAGE we were born after?------ if that be the case - there would be no HELL no sacrifice for sin etc etc etc