A Interesting Article on Consciousness

[Cardinal]

Mmmm sometimes when you see that light at the end of the tunnel you should turn back and run the other way, hey Card?  :laughing7:

:cloud9: Yes, it seems in my case the light is usually a fast locomotive..... :doh:

[Cardinal]

Yea, sometimes it seems we only really get to know the fire by standing in it for awhile  :LH:

:cloud9: How true. At this point, I'm fairly certain my garment got singed a bit....  :flamebreath:

[lomarah]

I was thinking more like an even bigger fire than the one at the beginning of the tunnel... I've never heard of a purifying locomotive but I'm sure it could knock a bit of sense into us at least.  :laughing7:

I always loved that vision He gave you about the cross "exploding", I think about it often. It also reminds me of Dora Van Assen's vision of the fulness of the ages. Exciting stuff.

[lomarah]

Yea, sometimes it seems we only really get to know the fire by standing in it for awhile  :LH:

:cloud9: How true. At this point, I'm fairly certain my garment got singed a bit....  :flamebreath:

Don't worry, those were your old filthy garments, He made the new ones fire proof.

[Lazarus Short]

So, if something has to die for time to exist, then in the Garden, before sin and the Adamic curse, existence was timeless?

I think, given this discussion, that I may have to abandon my theory about consciousness being in another unknown place, and the brain being just a transducer.  It dawns on me that when Spirit is breathed/infused into body/flesh, Soul (aka, consciousness) results.

[eaglesway]

Romans 8:1-21 1)Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has you free from the law of sin and death.......................I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.  For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. [/b]20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

If I didnt have this assurance, I would surely despair of life. Kept Job going, Like Timex I guess(takes a licking, keeps on ticking). We are still finding out what time it is arent we :o)

[eaglesway]

Good question Laz. I would not propose a doctrine on it myself ;o)

[Cardinal]

So, if something has to die for time to exist, then in the Garden, before sin and the Adamic curse, existence was timeless?

:cloud9: My  :2c: from the bits and pieces I've gathered over the years, He poured Himself into His creation; that was a "lowering", a "death" of sorts, mirrored by matter being slowed down energy in the natural.

The reason we can't see Him unless it's permitted, is because He ascended back into that state of being, where He can take any form (think of the gardener or the stranger on the road to Emmaus). He was ascending and descending all throughout time (Christophanies like the Rock, or the tree of life in the garden).

He wants our soul (a WOMAN delivered of SEVEN/fullness of darkness/devils saw Him first after He arose) to see Him in each other FIRST (the gardener or the stranger on the road to Emmaus), and then we can see God AND live (unto Him, as did the disciples when HE CAME THROUGH THEIR WALLS AND ATE THEIR FISH). When He comes, will He find faith on the/your "earth"?  My  :2c: Blessings.....