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WhiteWings

Quote from: lostnbroken on October 13, 2014, 12:29:45 AM
this is what i want so badly-to be healed, whole, restored and right with him in my heart....but if i somehow managed to offend him
Jesus was beaten to pulp, ridiculed, crucified etc.
Does that count a tiny bit as offending to you?
Don't take my word for it. Read His opinion on the matter.

Luke 23:34 Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.

BTW forgiveness and stuff is not about who you were. But who you are (becoming).
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

WhiteWings

Quote from: lostnbroken on October 13, 2014, 01:08:15 AM
.i am filled to the brim with the terrible things i have done-lost most of my teeth because of drugs[self-medicated to numb the inner pain] so many things wrong...why i hope i am not an apostate but more the prodigal child who only wants to come home...
The pharisees looked down on Jesus because He was eating and drinking with sinners.
- Jesus hates the sin.
- Jesus loves the sinner.
- Jesus isn't scared away by sin.


You seem to be on the right track now. Just don't set your hopes too high. God works on His own schedule. So while He can have it all fixed within 7 hours He just as well can decide to spread it out over 7 years.
The only 'works' required of you is, keep believing God is working on you. Don't let let satan whisper in your ears that Father abandoned you again. Call it your test of faith.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

micah7:9

Quote from: lostnbroken on October 13, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
god si love-he wants no one to perish...he will one way or another bring all to himself to save all adn this is what is happening...i will keep on working in faith to believe this and he will help me to overcome and to be made whole again.. :HeartThrob:

Could not find the little hug icon so......HUG! Welcome back!  :dsunny:

marie glen

Quote from: micah7:9 on October 13, 2014, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: lostnbroken on October 13, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
god si love-he wants no one to perish...he will one way or another bring all to himself to save all adn this is what is happening...i will keep on working in faith to believe this and he will help me to overcome and to be made whole again.. :HeartThrob:

Could not find the little hug icon so......HUG! Welcome back!  :dsunny:

Me too! me too! HUG! God bless!!! :HeartThrob: :dsunny:
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dajomaco

 It is not the Holy Spirit of God convicting you of Sin
He is NOT saying you better stop this Sin or God will get you.
Look to the Cross to Jesus crucified.
Then you will hear the voice of the Holy Spirit convicting you of righteousness.
YOU have been made righteous in the Sight of God.

jabcat

whatever it was it's been forgiven
the moment i asked he took it away
it's been cast in the sea he uses for forgetting
whatever it was that's now under his grace

there is a season a time for all things
and there is a reason for the sorrow sin brings
but when we take it to Jesus just like he said
that's when he tells us "I forgive and forget"

whatever it was it's been forgiven
the moment i asked he took it away
it's been cast in the sea he uses for forgetting
whatever it was that's now under his grace
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

rosered

Quote from: lostnbroken on October 14, 2014, 01:03:37 PM
need to affirm again i did not commit the unpardonable sin when i told god these as a comfort was a lie on purpose??? i was upset when i said it but then apologized and asked hi to please forgive me and not leave me...i asked him if he hated me and condemned me now when i said it, but felt so much pain and inner grief and then guilt and then extreme fear i went oo far when i did this on purpose as an insult...i have felt awful over this  in many tears over and over telling him so...if i am not worried about the other sins, i end up worried over this one again...sigh


Be happy and blessed  dear sister ,


  If you can say  you are born again by the seed of Christ in you and Holy Spirit witness   as     you have confessed Jesus Christ as to dying on the cross for your sins , you are saved   by the grace of God , now you must  BE  thankful right ?

WE praise God sister!!!    your sins are forgiven you       , you are now a child of the King !!   
its time to come  out of the sleep of death and rise and SHINE  :dsunny:      the Day   is here   and the Light shines in your heart   , its time for some thanksgiving  and praise to your SAVIOR      THE LORD Jesus Christ       !     Let  us all rejoice in your   testimony    and witness   to the glory of God   :HeartThrob:   

   we love Him because he first loved us    and gave Himself  for us that we might   walk  in the Spirit and newness of Life in Christ

For we are buried together with him by baptism into death; that as Christ is risen from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we also may walk in newness of life.

  the law of    the knowledge of good and evil     is where  we are held     , by the evil one     under that tree 

Jesus said    make the tree good and its fruits good a tree is known by its fruits        we are to keep praising Jesus for this    and asking for the good of God  ,  dont look back    into a sinful past         lay aside every  weight and sin     that entangles us       and  run     like a race set free into the Glory that awaits    those whom trust in the Lord Jesus Christ !!    the fresh and clean and newness    in Christ and His gracious offerings ,   can you be punished for doing good to God and one another ?

  God though Christ is the power to save us all !! trust Him   !  He loves all His children   wonderfully !!




  :HeartThrob:


18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. 19 We love, because He first loved us.

5 In the freedom, then, with which Christ did make you free -- stand ye, and be not held fast again by a yoke of servitude;
2 lo, I Paul do say to you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing;
3 and I testify again to every man circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law;
4 ye were freed from the Christ, ye who in law are declared righteous; from the grace ye fell away;
5 for we by the Spirit, by faith, a hope of righteousness do wait for,

6 for in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision, but faith through love working.
7 Ye were running well; who did hinder you -- not to obey the truth?
8 the obedience [is] not of him who is calling you!
9 a little leaven the whole lump doth leaven;
10 I have confidence in regard to you in the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded; and he who is troubling you shall bear the judgment, whoever he may be.

11 And I, brethren, if uncircumcision I yet preach, why yet am I persecuted? then hath the stumbling-block of the cross been done away;
12 O that even they would cut themselves off who are unsettling you!
13 For ye -- to freedom ye were called, brethren, only not the freedom for an occasion to the flesh, but through the love serve ye one another,
14 for all the law in one word is fulfilled -- in this: `Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself;'
15 and if one another ye do bite and devour, see -- that ye may not by one another be consumed.
16 And I say: In the Spirit walk ye, and the desire of the flesh ye may not complete;
17 for the flesh doth desire contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit contrary to the flesh, and these are opposed one to another, that the things that ye may will -- these ye may not do;
18 and if by the Spirit ye are led, ye are not under law.
19 And manifest also are the works of the flesh, which are: Adultery, whoredom, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, strifes, emulations, wraths, rivalries, dissensions, sects,
21 envyings, murders, drunkennesses, revellings, and such like, of which I tell you before, as I also said before, that those doing such things the reign of God shall not inherit.
22 And the fruit of the Spirit is: Love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith,
23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law;
24 and those who are Christ's, the flesh did crucify with the affections, and the desires;
25 if we may live in the Spirit, in the Spirit also we may walk;
26 let us not become vain-glorious -- one another provoking, one another envying!



Jesus is the reward  !!

dajomaco

Quote from: rosered on October 14, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: lostnbroken on October 14, 2014, 01:03:37 PM
need to affirm again i did not commit the unpardonable sin when i told god these as a comfort was a lie on purpose??? i was upset when i said it but then apologized and asked hi to please forgive me and not leave me...i asked him if he hated me and condemned me now when i said it, but felt so much pain and inner grief and then guilt and then extreme fear i went oo far when i did this on purpose as an insult...i have felt awful over this  in many tears over and over telling him so...if i am not worried about the other sins, i end up worried over this one again...sigh


Be happy and blessed  dear sister ,


  If you can say  you are born again by the seed of Christ in you and Holy Spirit witness   as     you have confessed Jesus Christ as to dying on the cross for your sins , you are saved   by the grace of God , now you must  BE  thankful right ?

WE praise God sister!!!    your sins are forgiven you       , you are now a child of the King !!   
its time to come  out of the sleep of death and rise and SHINE  :dsunny:      the Day   is here   and the Light shines in your heart   , its time for some thanksgiving  and praise to your SAVIOR      THE LORD Jesus Christ       !     Let  us all rejoice in your   testimony    and witness   to the glory of God   :HeartThrob:   

   we love Him because he first loved us    and gave Himself  for us that we might   walk  in the Spirit and newness of Life in Christ

For we are buried together with him by baptism into death; that as Christ is risen from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we also may walk in newness of life.

  the law of    the knowledge of good and evil     is where  we are held     , by the evil one     under that tree 

Jesus said    make the tree good and its fruits good a tree is known by its fruits        we are to keep praising Jesus for this    and asking for the good of God  ,  dont look back    into a sinful past         lay aside every  weight and sin     that entangles us       and  run     like a race set free into the Glory that awaits    those whom trust in the Lord Jesus Christ !!    the fresh and clean and newness    in Christ and His gracious offerings ,   can you be punished for doing good to God and one another ?

  God though Christ is the power to save us all !! trust Him   !  He loves all His children   wonderfully !!




  :HeartThrob:


18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. 19 We love, because He first loved us.

5 In the freedom, then, with which Christ did make you free -- stand ye, and be not held fast again by a yoke of servitude;
2 lo, I Paul do say to you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing;
3 and I testify again to every man circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law;
4 ye were freed from the Christ, ye who in law are declared righteous; from the grace ye fell away;
5 for we by the Spirit, by faith, a hope of righteousness do wait for,

6 for in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision, but faith through love working.
7 Ye were running well; who did hinder you -- not to obey the truth?
8 the obedience [is] not of him who is calling you!
9 a little leaven the whole lump doth leaven;
10 I have confidence in regard to you in the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded; and he who is troubling you shall bear the judgment, whoever he may be.

11 And I, brethren, if uncircumcision I yet preach, why yet am I persecuted? then hath the stumbling-block of the cross been done away;
12 O that even they would cut themselves off who are unsettling you!
13 For ye -- to freedom ye were called, brethren, only not the freedom for an occasion to the flesh, but through the love serve ye one another,
14 for all the law in one word is fulfilled -- in this: `Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself;'
15 and if one another ye do bite and devour, see -- that ye may not by one another be consumed.
16 And I say: In the Spirit walk ye, and the desire of the flesh ye may not complete;
17 for the flesh doth desire contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit contrary to the flesh, and these are opposed one to another, that the things that ye may will -- these ye may not do;
18 and if by the Spirit ye are led, ye are not under law.
19 And manifest also are the works of the flesh, which are: Adultery, whoredom, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, strifes, emulations, wraths, rivalries, dissensions, sects,
21 envyings, murders, drunkennesses, revellings, and such like, of which I tell you before, as I also said before, that those doing such things the reign of God shall not inherit.
22 And the fruit of the Spirit is: Love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith,
23 meekness, temperance: against such there is no law;
24 and those who are Christ's, the flesh did crucify with the affections, and the desires;
25 if we may live in the Spirit, in the Spirit also we may walk;
26 let us not become vain-glorious -- one another provoking, one another envying!


:iagree: We are free to Love Gods'children
See Dad I love your children also.

Seth

Quote from: lostnbroken on October 14, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
working hard to keep overcoming the ongoing condemnation that haunts me...writing down the opposite of what keeps coming to me..if it feels like god hates me then i write down and proclaim he loves me...if i feel unforgiven then i say he does forgiven..if feel fear then i keep telling myself he has not left me...i must be under attack and need to stop making agreement with these things which are hurting me...

Yes, that's a good approach. Feelings can be good but they are the least reliable way to establish and confirm truth. Feelings can betray us which is why Satan appealed to feelings of hunger and power to tempt Christ, but Christ stood firm on what was written.  :HeartThrob:

Tom

"by faith are we walking, not by perception" (2 Corinthians 5:7)

Tom

"Trust in Yahweh with all your heart, And do not lean to your own understanding." (Proverbs 3:5)

Tom

"Do not worry about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God, and the peace of God, that is superior to every frame of mind, shall be garrisoning your hearts and your apprehensions in Christ Jesus." (Philippians 4:6,7)

Tom

"No trial has taken you except what is human. Now, faithful is God, Who will not be leaving you to be tried above what you are able, but, together with the trial, will be making the sequel also, to enable you to undergo it." (1 Corinthians 10:13)

Tom

"For whatever was written before, was written for this teaching of ours, that through the endurance and the consolation of the scriptures we may have expectation." (Romans 15:4)

rosered

Quote from: lostnbroken on October 14, 2014, 08:04:34 PM
listening to jesus culture...your love never fails...he makes all things work together for my good....pain in the night but joy in the morning...his mercies are new every morning...he stays the same through the ages...

http://youtu.be/-dziczpYl94

i had not worshipped him for s while because i thought he did notwant o even hear from me..but it is beautiful...he is so awesome!!!!!!

  good song  never heard of it before now    :HeartThrob:  very upbeat and Lively !!      :thumbsup:  LIKE !! :flowerred:
Jesus is the reward  !!

Tom

"Put on the panoply of God, to enable you to stand up to the stratagems of the Adversary, for it is not ours to wrestle with blood and flesh, but with the sovereignties, with the authorities, with the world-mights of this darkness, with the spiritual forces of wickedness among the celestials. Therefore take up the panoply of God that you may be enabled to withstand in the wicked day, and having effected all, to stand. Stand, then, girded about your loins with truth, with the cuirass of righteousness put on, and your feet sandaled with the readiness of the evangel of peace; with all taking up the large shield of faith, by which you will be able to extinguish all the fiery arrows of the wicked one. And receive the helmet of salvation and the sword of the spirit, which is a declaration of God." (Ephesians 6:11-17)

Tom

"Now we are aware that, whatever the law is saying, it is speaking to those under the law, that every mouth may be barred, and the entire world may become subject to the just verdict of God, because, by works of law, no flesh at all shall be justified in His sight, for through law is the recognition of sin. Yet now, apart from law, a righteousness of God is manifest (being attested by the law and the prophets), yet a righteousness of God through Jesus Christ's faith, for all, and on all who are believing, for there is no distinction, for all sinned and are wanting of the glory of God. Being justified gratuitously in His grace, through the deliverance which is in Christ Jesus (Whom God purposed for a Propitiatory shelter, through faith in His blood, for a display of His righteousness because of the passing over of the penalties of sins which occurred before in the forbearance of God), toward the display of His righteousness in the current era, for Him to be just and a Justifier of the one who is of the faith of Jesus." (Romans 3:19-26)

Tom



dajomaco

Don't doubt in the darkness what God has clearly shown you in the Light  :Peace2:

Seth

Quote from: lostnbroken on October 14, 2014, 08:27:49 PM
i have a new addiction and is name is jesus!!!!!! i do not need something else to fill what eh ash done in my heart and continues to do for me!!!!!! :dsunny:

he wont relent until he has it all , my heart is his.... :HeartThrob:

:dsunny:

eaglesway

The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. http://www.hell-is-a-myth.webs.com/

Seth

#272
The Bible says

Romans 10
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (sozo - healed, made whole).


One of the things I realized is that when Jesus says that those who blaspheme the Spirit hath not forgiveness through the age, it does not contradict the above scripture. The scripture says "whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord." Alot of people sometimes wonder "what if I blasphemed the Holy Spirit, does that mean Jesus will not forgive me, even if I repent?" Of course not, because that would contradict Romans 10.

What I believe is happening is that Jesus is saying that those who blaspheme the Spirit are so hardened at that point, that they do not seek out for repentance in the first place. They are not those who "call upon the name of the Lord" in the first place. So, if you are calling upon the name of the Lord, then Jesus was not talking about you when he said that those Pharisees would not have forgiveness. They wouldn't repent in the first place. ANYONE who repents shall be healed by the Lord. That includes you lostnbroken. Are you calling upon the name of the Lord? If so, it means that you are not hardened. God will always forgive those who call upon his name.

Romans 10:13 cannot be subverted by another scripture. It all stands together as one, and should be harmonized not negated.


lostnbroken


eaglesway

Quote from: Seth on October 16, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
The Bible says

Romans 10
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (sozo - healed, made whole).


One of the things I realized is that when Jesus says that those who blaspheme the Spirit hath not forgiveness through the age, it does not contradict the above scripture. The scripture says "whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord." Alot of people sometimes wonder "what if I blasphemed the Holy Spirit, does that mean Jesus will not forgive me, even if I repent?" Of course not, because that would contradict Romans 10.

What I believe is happening is that Jesus is saying that those who blaspheme the Spirit are so hardened at that point, that they do not seek out for repentance in the first place. They are not those who "call upon the name of the Lord" in the first place. So, if you are calling upon the name of the Lord, then Jesus was not talking about you when he said that those Pharisees would not have forgiveness. They wouldn't repent in the first place. ANYONE who repents shall be healed by the Lord. That includes you lostnbroken. Are you calling upon the name of the Lord? If so, it means that you are not hardened. God will always forgive those who call upon his name.

Romans 10:13 cannot be subverted by another scripture. It all stands together as one, and should be harmonized not negated.

:iagree:
The Logos is complete, but it is not completely understood. http://www.hell-is-a-myth.webs.com/