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Started by DavidFord, February 09, 2019, 02:34:58 AM

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Ross

Calvin,  Piper, Luther.... all,IMO,  all see the first fruit as the only fruit- they all seem to miss the word "all" as literally meaning ALL. Apparently all have sinned means all,but not all when talking salvation.
The flesh cannot recognise the spirit of God.
This is what Paul talks about in 1 Corinthians 15.
Galatians 5 also is specific about the struggles between flesh and spirit.
All of this differentiates between the spirit of life and the holy spirit.
Fellow brother in Christ

marie glen

 :thumbsup:
    I recently fully realized translators changed ?all? (greek pas) into ?all things?. In Rev.21:5, ?behold! I make all new!? and Eph.1:10 ?will gather all into Jesus? and Jn.3:35 ?the Father loves the Son and has put all in his hands? and likely more.. but not 2Tim.3:16 - ?all scripture for training? because that won?t easily work, lol.
:gsmile:
"I will draw ALL to Me." [Jesus, Jn.12:32] Written in the pattern of the Holy Days? an image - https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com
Enter The Story Annual Reading Schedule ~ https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com/p/daily.html

DavidFord

The Hebrew/Aramaic 'amen' can mean 'continuing.'
The Greek New Testament (the bulk of which-- including the book of Revelation-- was translated from Aramaic), talks about glory, praise etc. being to God 'to the age of ages, continuing'/ 'to the world of worlds, continuing.'

There's no mention of people being tortured 'to the age of ages, continuing.'

https://biblescan.com/search.php?q=%22ever+amen%22
Philippians 4:20 To our God and Father be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Galatians 1:5  All glory to God forever and ever! Amen.
1 Peter 5:11 To him be the dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Revelation 7:12 Blessing and glory and wisdom... and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!"
Revelation 1:6 who has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father-- to Him... be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

1 Peter 4:11 ...through Jesus Christ.  To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever.  Amen.
1 Timothy 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, and invisible, the only God, be honor... and glory for ever and ever.  Amen.
2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord will rescue me from every evil action and bring me safely into His... heavenly kingdom.
To him be glory for ever and ever.  Amen.

Hebrews 13:21 ...through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Ephesians 3:21 to Him be the glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all... generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
Romans 11:36 For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be... glory for ever. Amen.
Revelation 11:15 ...this world is become our Lord's and his Christ's, and he shall reign for ever and ever. Amen.

Revelation 5:13 (YLT)
https://biblehub.com/ylt/revelation/5.htm
13 and every creature that is in the heaven, and in the earth, and under the earth, and the things that are upon the sea, and the all things in them, heard I saying,
'To Him who is sitting upon the throne, and to the Lamb, [is] the blessing, and the honour, and the glory, and the might-- to the ages of the ages!'
14 and the four living creatures said, 'Amen!'
and the twenty-four elders fell down and they bow before Him who is living to the ages of the ages.

Romans 16:27 to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.
Romans 1:25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served... the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 9:5 ...Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

2 Peter 3:18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him... be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Jude 1:25 to the only God our Savior... be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Matthew 6:13 For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Psalm 150:6 ...the powers of the heavens do praise thee, and thine is the glory for ever and ever. Amen.

marie glen

Amen! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
   Jesus said, ?All those in the tombs/graves will hear God?s voice and will come forth? (from the graves/tombs) ?some into the resurrection of life? (into THE millennium, to serve called reigning? for to do His works.. crown of Life, not metal.. during his long second advent, a full scope version of his so brief first one?).. ?And some, into the resurrection of (the GWT) judgment? ?day? (Jn.5:28-29, part of his second advent) which elsewhere He calls agelasting correction [?kolasin aionion? oR ?korrection eonian?] Mt.25:46, logically, the completing of - ?drawing all? - Jn.12:32! And surely(?) it?s a same process of refinement/correction for all. The crucible being life as we presently know it - this unavoidable, all important contrast - until vivification either at 1Cor.15:52,53 or at Rev.21:5, 1Cor.15:24-28. (We shall have character that is clear as crystal. Humanity and creation sealed and saturated with God?s Spirit/Presence. The dis-ease as part of the cure? ..And immunity..)
   Though the rogue angels purified via the furious fire of the palin/again-genesis? of Rev.21:5, 2Pet.3:12-13. And any by conclusion of GWT judgment ?day? an aionion kolsis, Mt.25:46 which partially unbelieving translators changed into the most extreme possibility for both word. Aion-ion/eonian kolasis/korrection ?correction-eonian.
"I will draw ALL to Me." [Jesus, Jn.12:32] Written in the pattern of the Holy Days? an image - https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com
Enter The Story Annual Reading Schedule ~ https://inner-monastery.blogspot.com/p/daily.html

DavidFord

How do you think Philippians 2:10-11 should be translated?

Keith Giles, How Evangelicals Changed The Bible To Support Their Beliefs - February 17, 2021
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/2021/02/how-evangelicals-changed-the-bible-to-support-their-beliefs/
...the word "gladly" was removed from Philippians 2:10-11 which should read:
"...that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should gladly confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
...
the Greek word "exomologeo" [which literally means "to acknowledge openly and joyfully"] ...

https://dukhrana.com/pecrapta/analyze_verse.php?lang=en&verse=Philippians+2:11&source=khabouris&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%25
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https://cal.huc.edu/getlex.php?coord=620421208&word=12
ydy verb C
ydy vb. C to give thanks; to confess
C
 1 to praise BA-Da, Syr, LJLA. --(a) to praise with thanks Palm, Qum, JLAtg, PTA, CPA, Sam, Syr, JBA, JBAg, LJLA. (a.1) to offer thanks JLAtg. --(b) to speak on behalf of Syr.
 2 to confess Gal, Sam, Syr, JBA, Man, LJLA. --(a) to confess faith Syr.
 3 to consent, acknowledge OfA-Sam, Qum, Jud, JLAtg, Gal, CPA. --(a) to concede, agree OfA, Gal, Syr, JBA. --(b) to acknowledge a debt Jud, JBA.
Gt   to be praised Sam.
Dt   to confess Syr.
Ct  1 to be acknowledged, admitted Syr. --(a) (faith) to be confessed Syr.
 2 (philos.) to be predicated Syr.

DavidFord

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