Pray for our President Obama!

[Raggedy Anne]

I hope these people
wind up in jail for threatening to assassinate the President.

That's pretty chilling.  So now we are going to start persecuting the Christians by accusing them of things they are not doing?  Even the secret service guy I saw interviewed on FOX news didn't think that was the case.  And, he's trained to assess 'threats.'

It would be fine with me if those who are threatening the life of the President spend some time in jail.   But I will let the secret service decide who goes too far. 
There are also plenty of war criminals from the last administration who should be locked up for crimes against humanity.  But as you may recall, Gary has requested we stop this kind of discussion.  So let's let it rest.

Anne

[Raggedy Anne]

?huh? :mshock:
I know eeengleesh is not my first language...but how did you get to that deduction that I hope Obama gets killed?
from my posts you should know by now that I detest ALL violence and killing...even of perceived "enemies"...if I call myself a Christian and I am for war, I'd be a hypocrite...for our Lord has clearly stated that we should love our enemies

what I'm saying is that I hope the prayers for Obama is working to turn his heart towards God..."for those who live by the sword will die by the sword"...and I hope he decides NOT to send another 20,000 troops to Afghanistan to go and kill more Afghans and Pakistanis and Americans...is this more clear now?

Yes, it is more clear now.  However, we had previously been discussing those "Christians" who are praying for God to kill him.   And I thought you were saying you hope those prayers are answered.

I still do not see how you could've made this assumption that I am part of that group...this is a real slap in the face i reckon :mshock:

Because you have been on here blasting Obama every chance you get, that's why I thought you were among his detractors.   I suppose some people think they can have it both ways.  I amazed that you feel slapped in the face.   I think some people have an imaginary sense of being persecuted.

Anne

[Raggedy Anne]

I posted something that you objected to, showing exactly what you "have not read about", you've asked for it to be removed from this site.
Fundamental Jews hates EVERYONE except themselves...but I'm not trying to divert attention away from this thread, just thought I'd mention it...

The thing you refer to was a very anti-Jewish article.  It was inappropriate and likely to offend some people.   I understand your frustration with the Israeli military, but you shouldn't scapegoat any particular group of people - practically the entire world is in flames and trying to put the blame on various ethnic or nationalistic groups is not going to stop the madness. 

Anne

[Molly]

Because you have been on here blasting Obama every chance you get, that's why I thought you were among his detractors.   I suppose some people think they can have it both ways.  I amazed that you feel slapped in the face.   I think some people have an imaginary sense of being persecuted.

Anne

Wait a minute.  Detractors=killers?  We have a long history in this country of dissent.  Code pink covered their hands with blood [or red paint?] and smeared it on the face of condi.  Does that make them killers?  Shall we condemn code pink for not liking the last administration?  Throw them in jail for speaking out against it?

Let's not for one minute think we should ever silent dissent in this country OR freedom of speech.  Or make laws against it.   Free speech was so important to our founders it was placed as number one on our Bill of Rights.

[Raggedy Anne]

I think the Tentmaker Secret Service should lock this thread since Gary asked us not to argue about politics.

[Taffy]

ROFL

Four pages Long..now YOU decide.

your funny Anne :laughing7:

[noname]

?huh? :mshock:
I know eeengleesh is not my first language...but how did you get to that deduction that I hope Obama gets killed?
from my posts you should know by now that I detest ALL violence and killing...even of perceived "enemies"...if I call myself a Christian and I am for war, I'd be a hypocrite...for our Lord has clearly stated that we should love our enemies

what I'm saying is that I hope the prayers for Obama is working to turn his heart towards God..."for those who live by the sword will die by the sword"...and I hope he decides NOT to send another 20,000 troops to Afghanistan to go and kill more Afghans and Pakistanis and Americans...is this more clear now?

Yes, it is more clear now.  However, we had previously been discussing those "Christians" who are praying for God to kill him.   And I thought you were saying you hope those prayers are answered.

I still do not see how you could've made this assumption that I am part of that group...this is a real slap in the face i reckon :mshock:

Because you have been on here blasting Obama every chance you get, that's why I thought you were among his detractors.   I suppose some people think they can have it both ways.  I amazed that you feel slapped in the face.   I think some people have an imaginary sense of being persecuted.

Anne

I s'pose most people would feel slapped in the face when someone accuses them of wanting to kill someone else...

[noname]

I posted something that you objected to, showing exactly what you "have not read about", you've asked for it to be removed from this site.
Fundamental Jews hates EVERYONE except themselves...but I'm not trying to divert attention away from this thread, just thought I'd mention it...

The thing you refer to was a very anti-Jewish article.  It was inappropriate and likely to offend some people.   I understand your frustration with the Israeli military, but you shouldn't scapegoat any particular group of people - practically the entire world is in flames and trying to put the blame on various ethnic or nationalistic groups is not going to stop the madness. 

Anne

this just proves that you haven't read the article have you?...the article was about a Jewish rabbi giving the ok to kill anyone else that is not Jewish...and you state that the article was anti-Jewish?
these are the same people the a big part of the "Christian church" is supporting...

[sheila]

   

   Love often when suffering pain or jealousy turns to anger.

   Man's wrath does not work righteousness[God's does]

   ...then ..like a lion with a painful thorn....a man goes about

  roaring over the situation and is wrathful. The flesh around the

wound becomes imflammed and 'proud'. Sometimes God does

remove the thorn in your flesh..and sometimes He does not.


   He may choose to say,'my grace is sufficient unto thee"

  or He may send forth angels to bundle up the tares[briars and


thorns] and burn them.


   Now, if He should appoint someone to remove it,from you

he would them pour wine and oil on it[your wound] and bind up

the wound of His people.


   All of us are suceptible to this...the jews were jealous over

God and that jealousy led to their anger and wrath,which did

not work the righteousness of God[condemned an innocent man]

and rejecting the Christ,they found themselves cut off for a

time.

   Do not let the love of Christ and mankind turn into anger

in you because of "pain" or "jealousy"  Whether it be pain of

rejection,pain of heart for suffering injustices[and the injustices

you witness in the world] do not roar at God or your fellowman.


   For WE KNOW SATAN'S TIME IS SHORT AND WE KNOW

FATHER'S WILL TO SAVE ALL MANKIND

AND THAT THE TIME WILL COME WHEN SUCH THINGS ARE

BUNDLED AND BURNED AWAY

AND WE KNOW THAT WHAT SEEM'S IMPOSSIBLE WITH MAN IS

POSSIBLE WITH GOD.  AND HE HIMSELF WILL BIND UP THE

WOUND OF HIS PEOPLE AND THE WRATH OF GOD DOES WORK

RIGHTEOUNESS. HE HUMBLES THE PROUD AND LIFTS UP THE

LOWLY. IT IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD THAT WILL ACCOMPLISH ALL

OF THIS.

   AND,SO, REMAIN IN HIS LOVE


   In reality the law produces wrath,be saved through Him from

wrath[Romans 5;9]

    Go to Him and pour out your heart to Him..your pain and

wound of spirit of living in such a place were evil is so rampant.

  Let HIM comfort you,may He comfort your heart

[1Cor 1;4

....we wereunder great pressure,far beyond our abilty to endure,

so that we despaired even of life.Indeed in our hearts we felt

the sentence of death. BUT THIS HAPPENED that we might not

rely on ourselves but on God,who raises the dead.


  Luke 21;26  Men will faint from terror,apprehensive of what is

coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken

At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud,

with power and great glory.When these things begin to take

place,stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption

is drawing near.

[rosered]

  WOW !   Great to hear this  , this morning Sis ! :HeartThrob:
 there is  a cut on a stallion  called   ''proud cut '' and or " proud flesh "   that causes the horse to act mad  and unable to  calm   in any manner  though he has been "castrated "  like circumscision of the heart in man

proud flesh (proud)
n.
The swollen flesh that surrounds a healing wound, caused by excessive granulation.

proud cut  , a gelding that still acts stallion  :mblush:
 there is warring in our own members  of the body  that does rebel against the mind / heart of Christ ..

  made  "perfect" sense   to me    all things are possible with God ..:thumbsup:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Amen Sheila and rosie......good to see you this morning.......

[Taffy]

Good Word Sheila... :icon_flower:
Hi Rosey, Hi Card. :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
:HeartThrob:

[rosered]

Good Word Sheila... :icon_flower:
Hi Rosey, Hi Card. :icon_flower: :icon_flower:
:HeartThrob:

  Hey Bro T , how you doing this morning ?

    hope you are  doing   very well , today , :HeartThrob:

[noname]

seems like the prayers aren't working...mr.peace is sending another 40,000 killers to the ME...or maybe i was mistaken...was this what the prayers were for?

happy thanksgiving :thumbsup:

[jfraysse]

seems like the prayers aren't working...mr.peace is sending another 40,000 killers to the ME...

I know, noname, most disappointing! :sigh:  Nevertheless, "Mr Peace" and all of my US leaders and our Troops and the people of the ME remain in my prayers.  If we ever needed God's wisdom, forgiveness, protection and guidance it is now. :thumbsup:

In His Love, John :HeartThrob:

[peacemaker]

"The Trilogy of Dollars; Economics, Politics and Religion ."

[WhiteWings]

History seems to repeat itself. IAEA has 'proof' Iran is working on nuclear weapons. You know the kinda stuff the previous President of Peace called weapons of mass destruction.
I won't be supprised if Barack Peace Obama starts bringing democracy in Iran.

(http://coat.ncf.ca/ARMX/cansec/democracy-will-come-to-you.jpg)

[noname]

John, Peacemaker & WhiteWings...couldn't have said it better

[WhiteWings]

Today I did read a short newspaper article that was entitled "Bin Laden could have been captured in 2001"
Two important sentences from that article.
#1: "The reason he wasn't caught was because the US used untrained 'local soldiers' and air strikes, but US ground forces would have done the trick."

#2: "The conclusion from that report is strong support for Obama to increase troops to catch Taliban."

[whyiloveitaly.com]

WW:
Replace the word "democracy" in that poster with "Jesus" and voilà! You have instant ET! (just add some "but-he-loves-you" sugar).

Democracy, btw, I am more and more convinced has never existed (except in people's minds of course). When ever in history has a country's leader allowed his people to decide who will rule next??? DON'T THINK SO!!

Sorry, just my  :2c:!
Ciao from Italy to all,
Brian

[WhiteWings]

Replace the word "democracy" in that poster with "Jesus" and voilà! You have instant ET!

:thumbsup:

Democracy, btw, I am more and more convinced has never existed

It has existed and still does IMO.
But not in a pure form. And it gets less pure each year :sigh:
People have a certain amount of influence.
We also have to be honest at outselfs. People would vote for zero taxes but still would ask the government of all kind of things.

[whyiloveitaly.com]

WW:
what's even scarier is this:

You can vote even if you know NOTHING about the candidate!!!!!!!!! (And how many people out of 1,000 have done SERIOUS study about the candidates before voting??) And I'm supposed to think that the heads of government are going to let people who are completely ignorant about them VOTE??????????????

The Mpls Star Tribune (my hometown paper) on Sundays weighs about 5 lbs.
How many pages are dedicated to things happening outside the US? 2-3!

Blessings,
Brian

[WhiteWings]

wili,

His plans can also be known by looking at the ones that are suggeted as ministers and advisors. Al Gore....
Or has he puppy or a pitbull on his team for defense. Etc

You can vote even if you know NOTHING about the candidate!!!!!!!!!

Voting exams :winkgrin:

The system is different here. When I vote I hardly look/listen to the campaigns.
I look back what they actually did in the past 4 year, not what they are promissing now. And usually that doesn't require deep study.

But political memory seems to be very short. Was the voting in the state Obama was senator significantly different from the average of all states?

[fire walker]

AL Gore????????? Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man made global warming????????
equals more regulations = more money!!!!!!!

It is a wonder Obama can even begin to do
anything with everything under the sun coming about at once, 1. The Climate change summit, 2. Health care, 3. the economic meltdown, 4. wars and talk (rumors) of more wars, 5. Being the worlds policeman when we need to clean corruption out of our own country and government, 6. The phoney war on drugs, a front for more money making scams, 7. Financial difficulties caring for the elderly, Retirement and the elderly senior citizens. 8. Infastructure of Utility power grids, electric and such, 9. The department of transportation, overloaded sky ways & airports, over crowded roadways and worn out old bridges and railways in ill repair. 10. International relations and policies need cleaned up and much improved over the poor excuse we have for Foriegn relations now.    There is more that can be said, this is just a general list of things Presidents are expected to address and try working toward positive repairs and changes.
Personaly I certainly wouldn't want the job of President even with the temporary worldly power that comes with it.

Fire Walker   

[noname]

but in "Yeswecanistan"...all you need is Hope...right?