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Barry DuPont

I'm from Ontario Canada and happy to fellowship with anyone that will have me. 

Prefer not to debate, but like to discuss.
Not a Universalist as such but have some common points of view with my dear Universalist friends.

I do not believe:
in an end to the world or an end to time.
that we need to see everything eye to eye.
that being right gains me or anyone else access into heaven.

I believe:
in the first century fulfillment of all things written and common grace for all.
that the ultimate message of the bible is love without condition, which is true love.
that people are more important than right and wrong and that Jesus Christ proved that.
that valuing right and wrong above people was the inherent problem with the old covenant world.
that everyone is with God, and will be with God. Not everyone is now aware of where they stand.

My past church involvement is some time as a preacher and missionary overseas.
Married 25 years to a pretty lady from Guadeloupe. We have 2 girls.
I love people.
My spelling can be really bad. Use spell check but still miss some things.
Tend to use lots of bible verses in my posts and may write in a somewhat convoluted fashion at times. Sorry, attention deficit kicking in!

Blessings, Barry

Taffy

Welcome Barry to Tent, :icon_flower:
Ty for being candid, YMW to discuss and share Amid us,  as Foodfights ARE not encouraged

:icon_flower:

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Welcome........ :thumbsup:
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Barry DuPont

Thank you for the warm welcome.
Just wanted to make sure that my views would not disqualify my presence :)

IMO the greatest reward that we have is being a blessing to each other. :angel5: :IloveU:

Great to be here.
Barry

WhiteWings

Quote from: Barry DuPont on October 18, 2009, 05:10:52 PM
Not a Universalist as such but have some common points of view with my dear Universalist friends.
Quotethat everyone is with God, and will be with God. Not everyone is now aware of where they stand.
UR in a nutshell? At least enough common ground to have discussions instead of battles.

:welcome: Barry
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Barry DuPont

Hi White Wings,
Would say that Universal Reconciliation would describe my view.  :thumbsup:
There are of course variations on this as you probably well know. There always are  :2c: :bigGrin:
Barry

WhiteWings

Barry,

If you stick around a bit longer and read some posts that go below teh surface of things you will see that not all here have the same opinion.
All think that everyone will be saved and other core UR things.
But not all agree on the path to that saved state.
That can be annoying at times but it keep the mind sharp and it forces to dig deeper in the Bible.
For me reading those battles of the Titans has be a good learning point :thumbsup:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Barry DuPont

Let's say I wanted to post something on Luke 7:19 ("Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?") or Heb. 10:25 (Not forsaking the assembling) or something that is general in nature.
Is there any place to do that?
Is that allowed?
Barry

Taffy

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Let's say I wanted to post something on Luke 7:19 ("Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?") or Heb. 10:25 (Not forsaking the assembling) or something that is general in nature.
Is there any place to do that?
Is that allowed?
Barry


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Barry
Check out the boards for various topics to be discussed, if your EVER unsure theres the MEMBERS LOUNGE, threads can always be moved  to the correct Boards ,, No worries


If there a Point to discuss then plz Do so.. :icon_flower:

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WhiteWings

First of all I can't even recall one time when the crew got upset about posting something in the wrong place.
Just look at names of the sections. If it doesn't fit in either of them just post in: http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?board=1.0

Basicly everything Biblical related is allowed. There is even an anti-UR section.
But there are a few exceptions.
Trinity and free will.
Those debates tend to quickly turn into real fights.
It's fine to mention free will and trinity. But not as the core of a debate.
Hopefully a crew member can give you more exact rules.
None of them are very strict. At least that's how I feel it.


1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Barry DuPont


Taffy


jabcat

The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

whyiloveitaly.com

Welcome Barry!
Just reading your first post above I feel like just sitting back and listening to what you have to say. I really like the part about Love being more important than being right or wrong. AMEN!

Love to ya,
Brian

Barry DuPont

Quote from: whyiloveitaly on October 22, 2009, 11:51:33 PM
Welcome Barry!
Just reading your first post above I feel like just sitting back and listening to what you have to say. I really like the part about Love being more important than being right or wrong. AMEN!

Love to ya,
Brian
:bigGrin:
Jesus did not come to save us from God.
Barry

Zeek

Quote from: Barry DuPont on October 24, 2009, 02:07:36 AM
Quote from: whyiloveitaly on October 22, 2009, 11:51:33 PM
Welcome Barry!
Just reading your first post above I feel like just sitting back and listening to what you have to say. I really like the part about Love being more important than being right or wrong. AMEN!

Love to ya,
Brian
:bigGrin:
Jesus did not come to save us from God.
Barry

AMEN   :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :HeartThrob:

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Amen........I never thought about it like that before, but that is excellent!  :thumbsup: Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

whyiloveitaly.com

QuoteJesus did not come to save us from God.

Amen to that, too! I tell people that Jesus was not "plan B."

Ya know, I was thinking the other day about something:
the Jews were told by God that they would receive a Savior who would destroy their enemies, set them free and lead them forever.
When He came, they killed him.

Now God is telling the church that their Savior is coming back to destroy their enemies, set them free and lead them forever.
Hmmm.....

Just a thought. History does repeat itself sometimes!

Brian

Barry DuPont

Great point Brian.
History does repeat itself, but yet is still builds on itself.
Look at the printing press and how that influenced the reformation (and humanity).
Now the Internet and here we are!
Barry

WhiteWings

Next step is optic fiber.
Instead of electricity it uses light
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Barry DuPont

Nice one.

How about universal translation?
Already in its infancy on the Internet.

What kind of impact is that going to make in our global communication?
What will be the impact of bringing down our language barriers?
Just a thought
Barry

Molly

Quote from: Barry DuPont on October 24, 2009, 07:15:55 PM
Nice one.

How about universal translation?
Already in its infancy on the Internet.

What kind of impact is that going to make in our global communication?
What will be the impact of bringing down our language barriers?
Just a thought
Barry

We already have universal translation.  It's called English.  Of course, attempts are being made to insure that people immigrating to English speaking countries--this one, in point--no longer learn English, because if they speak a common language there's no telling what they might do.

As for the internet, attempts are already in the works to shut it down, or at least heavily control it, from attacks on freedom of speech [hate crimes bills] to bogus claims of the need for 'cybersecurity.'

Satan never sleeps.  Neither should we.

Luke 8:5
A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.



oops... :welcome:

WhiteWings

Quote from: Barry DuPont on October 24, 2009, 07:15:55 PM
How about universal translation?

Universal translation is a rewording business.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Barry DuPont

Thanks for the welcome Molly, and God bless.

Personally speaking I think that the Internet will flourish but some restains may come about. The exchange of ideas will continue to grow IMHO. 

My wife is from Guadeloupe and we live in Ontario and yet she speaks with some of her family weekly.
We are very blessed I think.

Reminds me of a little saying:
Unity is not made it is realized.

A lot of these things like Air travel and Internet and so much more create opportunities to see and apply our interconnectedness.

Barry

whyiloveitaly.com

I agree with you all about how we are "progressing" technologically.
On the "human nature" side of things, however, we're still very "primitive" I think.

In other words, Barry's mention of "putting doctrine above compassion" is, unfortunately, still alive and well. Nowadays, religion can help or harm people even by Internet!