Called Out

[fullarmor2]

    What does it mean to be called out?      What is the purpose God has for those he calls out in this age,  for the next age(what will we be doing),  as opposed to the purpose for those who do not get enlightened until the next age or later?  Why is it "special"  to believe now without seeing?   How do you know if someone is called out?   How do you know if someone who is very religious,  talks about Jesus all the time, is into the bible,   if they are really called out or not?     Thanks for any help here. 

[Zeek]

    What does it mean to be called out?      What is the purpose God has for those he calls out in this age,  for the next age(what will we be doing),  as opposed to the purpose for those who do not get enlightened until the next age or later?  Why is it "special"  to believe now without seeing?   How do you know if someone is called out?   How do you know if someone who is very religious,  talks about Jesus all the time, is into the bible,   if they are really called out or not?     Thanks for any help here. 

to SERVE as priests.  A priests serves through "blessing". 

1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Gen 12:3  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Rom 11:31  Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

[fullarmor2]

      While driving my truck the other day I thought of an analogy that illustrates what it means to be called out.       Think about a ship at sea with a thousand people on board, that gets in trouble and is doomed. And this other ship is within range to come help.   And the captain of this other ship puts together a plan of action to get there and to save everyone.   And part of his plan is to use the first fifty  people who come off the doomed ship for a special purpose.   These first fifty people will be used to hand out food,  water, medicine, etc....   to  all the other people who will be coming off the doomed ship next.  And  to help manage and care for the people for the foreseeable future.   
     
   

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Sounds like firstfruits to me  :thumbsup:.......and I don't know if I ever told you or not, but your avatar makes me smile every time I see it........it's so cute! Blessings....

[Livelystone]

I believe to be called out points to the time we are entering into that is represented through the "omar of barley" that Jesus as the High Priest presented to God His Father upon His resurrection from His death on the Cross.

Paul spoke of these barley seeds when he referred to himself and the others as "one born out of due time" that when translated means to be born early and is prophesying of a ministry yet to come but whose time IMO has come.

They will be the Davids who will slay the Goliath of today........ first within themselves and then within the world.

Luke 6:1 shows these barley seed followers bringing the wheat ones who are "baked with leaven" being purified.

For that matter the LOF is a body of water that consists of many drops with each drop being a manifested son. It is their job to serve God and do His Will on earth because to be called out is to be called to serve God our Father.

Blessings

Doug

[WhiteWings]

For that matter the LOF is a body of water that consists of many drops with each drop being a manifested son. It is their job to serve God and do His Will on earth because to be called out is to be called to serve God our Father.

But only few do so.
"Many are called few are chosen."

[Livelystone]

For that matter the LOF is a body of water that consists of many drops with each drop being a manifested son. It is their job to serve God and do His Will on earth because to be called out is to be called to serve God our Father.

But only few do so.
"Many are called few are chosen."

I agree  :thumbsup:

I hope others feel better about their track record as to how well they are running the race than I do about mine

[WhiteWings]

For that matter the LOF is a body of water that consists of many drops with each drop being a manifested son. It is their job to serve God and do His Will on earth because to be called out is to be called to serve God our Father.

But only few do so.
"Many are called few are chosen."

I agree  :thumbsup:

I hope others feel better about their track record as to how well they are running the race than I do about mine

Actually even less make it.
Many are called, few are chosen, even less make it.
Gotta look it up but it's somewhere in Ray Smith LoF series.

[CHB]

    What does it mean to be called out?      What is the purpose God has for those he calls out in this age,  for the next age(what will we be doing),  as opposed to the purpose for those who do not get enlightened until the next age or later?  Why is it "special"  to believe now without seeing?   How do you know if someone is called out?   How do you know if someone who is very religious,  talks about Jesus all the time, is into the bible,   if they are really called out or not?     Thanks for any help here. 

to SERVE as priests.  A priests serves through "blessing". 

1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Gen 12:3  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Rom 11:31  Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Hi Zeek,

I think being priests only applied to Israel. I find no priest associated with the Gentiles. Peter was talking to Jew's if I am not mistaken.

What is wrong with this box we type our posts in?  It has gone crazy. :dontknow:

CHB

[Beloved Servant]

I believe to be called out points to the time we are entering into that is represented through the "omar of barley" that Jesus as the High Priest presented to God His Father upon His resurrection from His death on the Cross.

Paul spoke of these barley seeds when he referred to himself and the others as "one born out of due time" that when translated means to be born early and is prophesying of a ministry yet to come but whose time IMO has come.

They will be the Davids who will slay the Goliath of today........ first within themselves and then within the world.

Luke 6:1 shows these barley seed followers bringing the wheat ones who are "baked with leaven" being purified.

For that matter the LOF is a body of water that consists of many drops with each drop being a manifested son. It is their job to serve God and do His Will on earth because to be called out is to be called to serve God our Father.

Blessings

Doug

Thanks Doug,
That was a breath of fresh air from the Spirit.

[Zeek]

    What does it mean to be called out?      What is the purpose God has for those he calls out in this age,  for the next age(what will we be doing),  as opposed to the purpose for those who do not get enlightened until the next age or later?  Why is it "special"  to believe now without seeing?   How do you know if someone is called out?   How do you know if someone who is very religious,  talks about Jesus all the time, is into the bible,   if they are really called out or not?     Thanks for any help here. 

to SERVE as priests.  A priests serves through "blessing". 

1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Gen 12:3  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Rom 11:31  Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Hi Zeek,

I think being priests only applied to Israel. I find no priest associated with the Gentiles. Peter was talking to Jew's if I am not mistaken.

What is wrong with this box we type our posts in?  It has gone crazy. :dontknow:

CHB

what does "grafted in" mean to you??  Romans 11

[CHB]

    What does it mean to be called out?      What is the purpose God has for those he calls out in this age,  for the next age(what will we be doing),  as opposed to the purpose for those who do not get enlightened until the next age or later?  Why is it "special"  to believe now without seeing?   How do you know if someone is called out?   How do you know if someone who is very religious,  talks about Jesus all the time, is into the bible,   if they are really called out or not?     Thanks for any help here. 

to SERVE as priests.  A priests serves through "blessing". 

1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Gen 12:3  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Rom 11:31  Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Hi Zeek,

I think being priests only applied to Israel. I find no priest associated with the Gentiles. Peter was talking to Jew's if I am not mistaken.

What is wrong with this box we type our posts in?  It has gone crazy. :dontknow:

CHB

what does "grafted in" mean to you??  Romans 11

Hi Zeek,

It means New Covenant which is for the Jew's.

CHB

[Cardinal]

I believe to be called out points to the time we are entering into that is represented through the "omar of barley" that Jesus as the High Priest presented to God His Father upon His resurrection from His death on the Cross.

Paul spoke of these barley seeds when he referred to himself and the others as "one born out of due time" that when translated means to be born early and is prophesying of a ministry yet to come but whose time IMO has come.

They will be the Davids who will slay the Goliath of today........ first within themselves and then within the world.

Luke 6:1 shows these barley seed followers bringing the wheat ones who are "baked with leaven" being purified.

For that matter the LOF is a body of water that consists of many drops with each drop being a manifested son. It is their job to serve God and do His Will on earth because to be called out is to be called to serve God our Father.

Blessings

Doug

:cloud9: Amen Doug......water that is as heavenly fire........it both lifts up the Christ within, and consumes what isn't. Blessings....

[Cardinal]

I hope others feel better about their track record as to how well they are running the race than I do about mine

:cloud9: We have to continue pressing in and laying on our faces before Him. He does the works; it is all upon His shoulders, just as the signet stones on the High Priest's shoulders. Blessings.....

[Cardinal]

to SERVE as priests.  A priests serves through "blessing". 

1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Gen 12:3  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Rom 11:31  Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

:cloud9: Amen Zeek.........we are priests of the Most High...........Blessings.....;)

[Molly]

what does "grafted in" mean to you??  Romans 11

It's a farming term.  The shoot from one tree is added onto another tree.


"Graft"

a. To unite (a shoot or bud) with a growing plant by insertion or by placing in close contact.
b. To join (a plant or plants) by such union.




18Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

19Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.

20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

--Rom 11

[Zeek]

what does "grafted in" mean to you??  Romans 11

It's a farming term.  The shoot from one tree is added onto another tree.


"Graft"

a. To unite (a shoot or bud) with a growing plant by insertion or by placing in close contact.
b. To join (a plant or plants) by such union.




18Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

19Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.

20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

--Rom 11

and gentiles were grafted in, right?

Salvation is of the jews, right?

Gentiles grafted into the inheritance. 

by faith. 


what ya think?

[Molly]

what does "grafted in" mean to you??  Romans 11

It's a farming term.  The shoot from one tree is added onto another tree.


"Graft"

a. To unite (a shoot or bud) with a growing plant by insertion or by placing in close contact.
b. To join (a plant or plants) by such union.




18Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

19Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.

20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

--Rom 11

and gentiles were grafted in, right?

Salvation is of the jews, right?

Gentiles grafted into the inheritance. 

by faith. 


what ya think?

Right. :thumbsup:

[WhiteWings]

what does "grafted in" mean to you??  Romans 11

It's a farming term.  The shoot from one tree is added onto another tree.

I think it's important to mention that the root is usally a much stronger breed/kind than the root of the grafted in branch.

[rosered]

    What does it mean to be called out?      What is the purpose God has for those he calls out in this age,  for the next age(what will we be doing),  as opposed to the purpose for those who do not get enlightened until the next age or later?  Why is it "special"  to believe now without seeing?   How do you know if someone is called out?   How do you know if someone who is very religious,  talks about Jesus all the time, is into the bible,   if they are really called out or not?     Thanks for any help here. 

  Hi fularmour

  Loved the answers given already
and agree

  a simple  answer , my answer is this
  Called out   means   called out '' of the world '' and set apart
  as the Lord uses'' these '' as examples
 
some for experiences   that show anyone who hears  what   the  Spirit is saying  and how the world will Hate them  Just as Jesus Christ [ First  perfect example ] was hated by the world

  the Old covanant shows many examples to of  what happens /sets  the course
  I have such a  small view , but its a clear view to me that is hard to disbute  , most already know and say ''oh yeah''   and its good to be reminded  , many do that here for me all the time
  and some  ''just bless my socks off ''  with revelation / a showing/revealing ,  that was hidden from my spiritual sight /eyes
  love it when that happens  thats why I am still here,  as the Lord keeps my heart open to new and better things concerning ''Him''  ... 
In The love of  Christ rose  :HeartThrob:

[CHB]

what does "grafted in" mean to you??  Romans 11

It's a farming term.  The shoot from one tree is added onto another tree.


"Graft"

a. To unite (a shoot or bud) with a growing plant by insertion or by placing in close contact.
b. To join (a plant or plants) by such union.




18Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

19Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.

20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

--Rom 11

and gentiles were grafted in, right?

Salvation is of the jews, right?

Gentiles grafted into the inheritance. 

by faith. 

what ya think?

Hi Zeek,

Just the way I see this.  The Covenants and the promises were given to Israel.  (Rom. 9:4) "Who are Israelites; TO WHOM PERTAINETH THE ADOPTION, AND THE GLORY, AND THE COVENANTS".

(Heb. 8:8) "Behold the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH".

(Jer. 31:31) Behold the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah 

There is nothing said about Gentiles in these verses.  Now in the beginning of Paul's ministery he came to see that Gentiles could be grafted in to The New Covenant. Later though, Paul came to see that we didn't need to be grafted into Israel he saw a much better promise and that was, believers in Christ are now of the family of God not Israel. We don't need the covenants and promises of Israel, we have our citizenship in heaven.  We have a heavenly citizenship now, not an earthly one which is Israel.

The Mystery that Paul spoke about was the final revelation of salvation. It was much more glorious than the New Covenant. Paul didn't preach about it much he was in prison a lot. Paul ask that prayer be given for him that "God would open a door unto us to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am in bonds. That I may make it manifest as I ought to speak (Col. 4:3-4).

I cannot find anywhere where it says we Gentiles will be priest or kings. In Revelation it mentions priest but John was writing to the Israelites because he was of the circuncision. All of the apostles were sent to the Israelites including Paul at first but later Paul said he was going to the Gentiles but the rest didn't.

CHB

[Zeek]

what does "grafted in" mean to you??  Romans 11

It's a farming term.  The shoot from one tree is added onto another tree.


"Graft"

a. To unite (a shoot or bud) with a growing plant by insertion or by placing in close contact.
b. To join (a plant or plants) by such union.




18Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

19Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.

20Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

--Rom 11

and gentiles were grafted in, right?

Salvation is of the jews, right?

Gentiles grafted into the inheritance. 

by faith. 

what ya think?

Hi Zeek,

Just the way I see this.  The Covenants and the promises were given to Israel.  (Rom. 9:4) "Who are Israelites; TO WHOM PERTAINETH THE ADOPTION, AND THE GLORY, AND THE COVENANTS".

(Heb. 8:8) "Behold the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH".

(Jer. 31:31) Behold the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah 

There is nothing said about Gentiles in these verses.  Now in the beginning of Paul's ministery he came to see that Gentiles could be grafted in to The New Covenant. Later though, Paul came to see that we didn't need to be grafted into Israel he saw a much better promise and that was, believers in Christ are now of the family of God not Israel. We don't need the covenants and promises of Israel, we have our citizenship in heaven.  We have a heavenly citizenship now, not an earthly one which is Israel.

The Mystery that Paul spoke about was the final revelation of salvation. It was much more glorious than the New Covenant. Paul didn't preach about it much he was in prison a lot. Paul ask that prayer be given for him that "God would open a door unto us to speak the mystery of Christ, for which I am in bonds. That I may make it manifest as I ought to speak (Col. 4:3-4).

I cannot find anywhere where it says we Gentiles will be priest or kings. In Revelation it mentions priest but John was writing to the Israelites because he was of the circuncision. All of the apostles were sent to the Israelites including Paul at first but later Paul said he was going to the Gentiles but the rest didn't.

CHB

thanks CHB.  A view i've heard before, but no longer believe  in; but hey; i'm not too sure what i believe in other than LOVE never fails.  :) 

[Molly]

I cannot find anywhere where it says we Gentiles will be priest or kings. In Revelation it mentions priest but John was writing to the Israelites because he was of the circuncision.

But the New Testament gives a new understanding of who the cirmcumcision is.  Don't forget the promise was given to Abraham before he was of the physical circumcision--in other words, while he was still a Gentile--and God told him that through him many Gentiles [nations] would be blessed.

The circumcision starts out being the Hebrews [first the natural] and ends up being all those in Christ [then the spiritual].  We are of the second circumcision, that group that was circumcised by Joshua after crossing over into the promised land.


10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

--Col 2

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Amen......and He is the High Priest of our confession. When God said He would that they were ALL priests, I believe He got what He wanted on the day of Pentecost when the way was made for that to happen, the beginning of His nation of priests/intercessors. Blessings....

[CHB]

I cannot find anywhere where it says we Gentiles will be priest or kings. In Revelation it mentions priest but John was writing to the Israelites because he was of the circuncision.

But the New Testament gives a new understanding of who the cirmcumcision is.  Don't forget the promise was given to Abraham before he was of the physical circumcision--in other words, while he was still a Gentile--and God told him that through him many Gentiles [nations] would be blessed.

The circumcision starts out being the Hebrews [first the natural] and ends up being all those in Christ [then the spiritual].  We are of the second circumcision, that group that was circumcised by Joshua after crossing over into the promised land.


10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

--Col 2

Molly, this is the way I understand it as well. We no longer have to be grafted in to Israel we are all of the family of God, not the family of Israel.

Someone said "salvation was of the Jew's" but they way I understand it is, salvation is of Jesus Christ. Do you see a difference here? We no longer have to go through Israel to be saved as the New Covenant states, there is neither Gentile nor Jew now but one in Christ. This is the gospel that Paul finally came to see, which was planned from the beginning but no one saw this till the Mystery was shown to Paul. The Gentiles still thought they had to be grafted into Israel to be saved. 

CHB