What bible?

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jesushandsarekindhands

Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.

WhiteWings

Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.

CLV -> NT only
Christian Bible -> NT only -> Most readble literal modern English Bible I know of. -> very hard to get.
Youngs
Rotherham
Bullinger/Companion Bible -> Is KJV verses with so many notes it's no longer KJV...

Quote from: WhiteWings on April 21, 2009, 09:43:53 PM
Best is to spend 2 minutes on this site to see what's so special (or not) about it


Companion Bible
Quote*The Companion Bible (A.K.A. "The Bullinger Bible") is a work by Dr. E.W. Bullinger (1837-1913), and is the King James text (Un-altered) of the Authorized Version of 1611.
Main index: http://www.companionbiblecondensed.com
Look at page 1 and 2 for a good impression: http://www.companionbiblecondensed.com/OT/Genesis...pdf
All 66 books are .pdf files that you can save.
Problems saving or you want all books combined in one big file? Ask.

All mentioned Bibles are free in electronic format.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Cardinal

 :cloud9: Someone said the Concordant Literal Version was the closest. I don't have one, but would like to see one. I've always used the KJV myself, more for the Strong's concordance than anything else. Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

jesushandsarekindhands

Thanks a lot, i might get myself a copy of Youngs to start with, but will probably use the online version for a while to see how things go, thank you.

WhiteWings

Cardinal you can see/read a electronic version for free.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Shadow

Here is a version of the CLNT I converted from BBL to BBLX (It has to be converted if you install the latest version of (Esword) click on clv.bblx to download it

Just put the downloaded bblx file in your esword folder usually C:/program files /esword (open the esword folder and move the bblx program into the folder, as there is no installer) the next time you start Esword it will automatically be loaded

CLV BBLX

WhiteWings

Shadow do you have a list wit the meaning of those tiny symbols found on CLV?

This software that shows very literal Hebrew/Greek along with 3 English translations. Including CLV
http://www.scripture4all.org/

Recently I found Cbrowser. http://andr-de-mol.software.informer.com/
A stand-alone commentary browser for CLV written by the translator of CLV (Knoch)
When you have both programs running together Cbrowser syncs automatically with ISA
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

jabcat

Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.

I like all 3, Young's, Concordant Literal, and The Christian Bible.  Not as accurate (IMO) but I also like how the New American Standard reads, and I read it at www.biblegateway.com.  Young's is also on there.
The oldest known manuscripts agree with each other 99% of the time.  The scriptures, accurately translated, Spirit revealed - reliable.   Looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.  Heb. 12:2

Shadow

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Quote from: WhiteWings on October 02, 2009, 10:14:27 PM
Shadow do you have a list with the meaning of those tiny symbols found on CLV?

This software that shows very literal Hebrew/Greek along with 3 English translations. Including CLV
http://www.scripture4all.org/

Recently I found Cbrowser. http://andr-de-mol.software.informer.com/
A stand-alone commentary browser for CLV written by the translator of CLV (Knoch)
When you have both programs running together Cbrowser syncs automatically with ISA

No, all I had was esword before, thanks I will download and install these as well :bgdance:

Actually having enlarged a screenshot of this, it may look a bit confusing and cumbersome to read at first, that's why I think it may be a good idea to have esword as well as this proggie as the same time, as esword is definately easier to read :2c:

martincisneros

The whole Concordant Translation of the Old Testament is available at the bottom of their catalogue as a set for $60, and further up in the catalogue is a copy of their New Testament for $10 or $20.  I personally recommend the $20 version that's got the built in New Testament concordance and lexicon that goes with that New Testament.  It's the version that I have, and am already needing to replace 'cause mine's about had it.  I haven't had a chance to have a peak at their Old Testament yet, but am going to need to buy a copy of all of it:

http://www.concordant.org/catalog/orderblank/index.html

martincisneros

Quote from: jabcat on October 02, 2009, 10:19:18 PMI like all 3, Young's, Concordant Literal, and The Christian Bible.  Not as accurate (IMO) but I also like how the New American Standard reads, and I read it at www.biblegateway.com.  Young's is also on there.
I think it's http://www.studylight.org that has Young's and Rotherham's Emphasized.

aspiring son

I've seen/ read the concordant NT online version, but have a hardback of the Rotherham Emphasized. I really enjoy Rotherham's.

rosered

Quote from: jabcat on October 02, 2009, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.

I like all 3, Young's, Concordant Literal, and The Christian Bible.  Not as accurate (IMO) but I also like how the New American Standard reads, and I read it at www.biblegateway.com.  Young's is also on there.

:thumbsup:   :icon_flower:


   I use KJV alot because I just got used to it after a long time  :mblush:  learned to look into  the  word meanings  through strongs too,    that helped   clarify alot 
but a Fav of mine is also New American  Standard Version   hard  back  with greek and Hebrew  key Word study Bible
  I reaaly , like it alot ...  for personal study and bedside manner / help   :winkgrin:         .. :HeartThrob:  rose
Jesus is the reward  !!

WhiteWings

Quote from: Shadow on October 02, 2009, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on October 02, 2009, 10:14:27 PM
Shadow do you have a list with the meaning of those tiny symbols found on CLV?

This software that shows very literal Hebrew/Greek along with 3 English translations. Including CLV
http://www.scripture4all.org/

Recently I found Cbrowser. http://andr-de-mol.software.informer.com/
A stand-alone commentary browser for CLV written by the translator of CLV (Knoch)
When you have both programs running together Cbrowser syncs automatically with ISA

No, all I had was esword before, thanks I will download and install these as well :bgdance:

Actually having enlarged a screenshot of this, it may look a bit confusing and cumbersome to read at first, that's why I think it may be a good idea to have esword as well as this proggie as the same time, as esword is definately easier to read :2c:
That's for sure Shadow. e-Sword and about every program is easier to read as ISA. But the focus of ISA is not about reading I think but about study of the completly untouched original words in Hebrew and Greek.
So if you want to study the words itself then ISA is one of your best bets. If you just want to read then eSword is much better. Plus it has dozens of commentaries. Most of them of the ET type I fear. Actually I never have been able to find a UR commentary for any Bible program.  Same goes for printed versions.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

WhiteWings

Quote from: aspiring son on October 03, 2009, 03:28:05 AM
I've seen/ read the concordant NT online version, but have a hardback of the Rotherham Emphasized. I really enjoy Rotherham's.
What's the difference/advantage of 'emphasized' over the normal version?
Is it just more italics, underlined and stuff or is it more readable?
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

WhiteWings

What about "Greens version"?
I vaguely remember something about the son of Green that made a good translation?
Unfortunately that's all I remember.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Gab

Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.

If you want a Bible as true as possible to the original languages, then the Greek and Hebrew is your best bet. :wink2:

But seriously, if you really want to understand the true meaning behind the text of the books in the Bible, I think you owe it to yourself to go beyond the English.  Often a single English word is entirely insufficient to convey the full meaning behind the Greek or Hebrew - so even the best translation possible can leave much to be desired.

Jerm

If you can't read Greek and Hebrew fluently, then I think the best way to go is use different versions for different purposes.  Each one has it's own pros and cons so it's best to use several different translations.  A word to the wise about the Concordant Literal Version.  Yes it is in fact a very accurate, literal translation but that does not necessarily mean it's the absolute best. For one, it is not a very fluent read because of the literalness and I'm also irritated by the fact that half the time it is NOT a translation but a transliteration, which seems to me a sort of cop out regarding making decisions on certain words.  The fact that every single participle is left in the -ing form also makes for a non-fluent read (i.e. they were believing vs. they believed)  All that being said, I cannot deny that it is a very literal translation and thus a great study tool.

jesushandsarekindhands

Thanks guys for all the help, really appreciate it all.