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Title: What bible?
Post by: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: WhiteWings on October 02, 2009, 03:23:29 PM
Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.

CLV -> NT only
Christian Bible -> NT only -> Most readble literal modern English Bible I know of. -> very hard to get.
Youngs
Rotherham
Bullinger/Companion Bible -> Is KJV verses with so many notes it's no longer KJV...

Quote from: WhiteWings on April 21, 2009, 09:43:53 PM
Best is to spend 2 minutes on this site to see what's so special (or not) about it


Companion Bible
Quote*The Companion Bible (A.K.A. "The Bullinger Bible") is a work by Dr. E.W. Bullinger (1837-1913), and is the King James text (Un-altered) of the Authorized Version of 1611.
Main index: http://www.companionbiblecondensed.com (http://www.companionbiblecondensed.com)
Look at page 1 and 2 for a good impression: http://www.companionbiblecondensed.com/OT/Genesis...pdf (http://www.companionbiblecondensed.com/OT/Genesis...pdf)
All 66 books are .pdf files that you can save.
Problems saving or you want all books combined in one big file? Ask.

All mentioned Bibles are free in electronic format.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: Cardinal on October 02, 2009, 06:04:19 PM
 :cloud9: Someone said the Concordant Literal Version was the closest. I don't have one, but would like to see one. I've always used the KJV myself, more for the Strong's concordance than anything else. Blessings....
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 06:10:48 PM
Thanks a lot, i might get myself a copy of Youngs to start with, but will probably use the online version for a while to see how things go, thank you.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: WhiteWings on October 02, 2009, 06:17:57 PM
Cardinal you can see/read a electronic version for free.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: Shadow on October 02, 2009, 09:27:30 PM
Here is a version of the CLNT I converted from BBL to BBLX (It has to be converted if you install the latest version of (Esword) (http://www.e-sword.net/downloads.html) click on clv.bblx to download it

Just put the downloaded bblx file in your esword folder usually C:/program files /esword (open the esword folder and move the bblx program into the folder, as there is no installer) the next time you start Esword it will automatically be loaded

CLV BBLX (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=caa628c46d3b67f15a3d773badf21430e04e75f6e8ebb871)
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: WhiteWings on October 02, 2009, 10:14:27 PM
Shadow do you have a list wit the meaning of those tiny symbols found on CLV?

This software that shows very literal Hebrew/Greek along with 3 English translations. Including CLV
http://www.scripture4all.org/

Recently I found Cbrowser. http://andr-de-mol.software.informer.com/
A stand-alone commentary browser for CLV written by the translator of CLV (Knoch)
When you have both programs running together Cbrowser syncs automatically with ISA
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: jabcat on October 02, 2009, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.

I like all 3, Young's, Concordant Literal, and The Christian Bible.  Not as accurate (IMO) but I also like how the New American Standard reads, and I read it at www.biblegateway.com.  Young's is also on there.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: Shadow on October 02, 2009, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on October 02, 2009, 10:14:27 PM
Shadow do you have a list with the meaning of those tiny symbols found on CLV?

This software that shows very literal Hebrew/Greek along with 3 English translations. Including CLV
http://www.scripture4all.org/

Recently I found Cbrowser. http://andr-de-mol.software.informer.com/
A stand-alone commentary browser for CLV written by the translator of CLV (Knoch)
When you have both programs running together Cbrowser syncs automatically with ISA

No, all I had was esword before, thanks I will download and install these as well :bgdance:

Actually having enlarged a screenshot of this, it may look a bit confusing and cumbersome to read at first, that's why I think it may be a good idea to have esword as well as this proggie as the same time, as esword is definately easier to read :2c:
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: martincisneros on October 03, 2009, 12:02:34 AM
The whole Concordant Translation of the Old Testament is available at the bottom of their catalogue as a set for $60, and further up in the catalogue is a copy of their New Testament for $10 or $20.  I personally recommend the $20 version that's got the built in New Testament concordance and lexicon that goes with that New Testament.  It's the version that I have, and am already needing to replace 'cause mine's about had it.  I haven't had a chance to have a peak at their Old Testament yet, but am going to need to buy a copy of all of it:

http://www.concordant.org/catalog/orderblank/index.html (http://www.concordant.org/catalog/orderblank/index.html)
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: martincisneros on October 03, 2009, 12:05:50 AM
Quote from: jabcat on October 02, 2009, 10:19:18 PMI like all 3, Young's, Concordant Literal, and The Christian Bible.  Not as accurate (IMO) but I also like how the New American Standard reads, and I read it at www.biblegateway.com.  Young's is also on there.
I think it's http://www.studylight.org (http://www.studylight.org) that has Young's and Rotherham's Emphasized.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: aspiring son on October 03, 2009, 03:28:05 AM
I've seen/ read the concordant NT online version, but have a hardback of the Rotherham Emphasized. I really enjoy Rotherham's.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: rosered on October 03, 2009, 03:37:18 AM
Quote from: jabcat on October 02, 2009, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.

I like all 3, Young's, Concordant Literal, and The Christian Bible.  Not as accurate (IMO) but I also like how the New American Standard reads, and I read it at www.biblegateway.com.  Young's is also on there.

:thumbsup:   :icon_flower:


   I use KJV alot because I just got used to it after a long time  :mblush:  learned to look into  the  word meanings  through strongs too,    that helped   clarify alot 
but a Fav of mine is also New American  Standard Version   hard  back  with greek and Hebrew  key Word study Bible
  I reaaly , like it alot ...  for personal study and bedside manner / help   :winkgrin:         .. :HeartThrob:  rose
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: WhiteWings on October 03, 2009, 08:02:39 AM
Quote from: Shadow on October 02, 2009, 10:31:48 PM
Quote from: WhiteWings on October 02, 2009, 10:14:27 PM
Shadow do you have a list with the meaning of those tiny symbols found on CLV?

This software that shows very literal Hebrew/Greek along with 3 English translations. Including CLV
http://www.scripture4all.org/

Recently I found Cbrowser. http://andr-de-mol.software.informer.com/
A stand-alone commentary browser for CLV written by the translator of CLV (Knoch)
When you have both programs running together Cbrowser syncs automatically with ISA

No, all I had was esword before, thanks I will download and install these as well :bgdance:

Actually having enlarged a screenshot of this, it may look a bit confusing and cumbersome to read at first, that's why I think it may be a good idea to have esword as well as this proggie as the same time, as esword is definately easier to read :2c:
That's for sure Shadow. e-Sword and about every program is easier to read as ISA. But the focus of ISA is not about reading I think but about study of the completly untouched original words in Hebrew and Greek.
So if you want to study the words itself then ISA is one of your best bets. If you just want to read then eSword is much better. Plus it has dozens of commentaries. Most of them of the ET type I fear. Actually I never have been able to find a UR commentary for any Bible program.  Same goes for printed versions.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: WhiteWings on October 03, 2009, 08:05:52 AM
Quote from: aspiring son on October 03, 2009, 03:28:05 AM
I've seen/ read the concordant NT online version, but have a hardback of the Rotherham Emphasized. I really enjoy Rotherham's.
What's the difference/advantage of 'emphasized' over the normal version?
Is it just more italics, underlined and stuff or is it more readable?
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: WhiteWings on October 03, 2009, 08:08:44 AM
What about "Greens version"?
I vaguely remember something about the son of Green that made a good translation?
Unfortunately that's all I remember.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: Gab on October 03, 2009, 08:29:49 AM
Quote from: jesushandsarekindhands on October 02, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what the best bible is?
I want one as true to the original languages as possible.

If you want a Bible as true as possible to the original languages, then the Greek (http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Greek_Index.htm) and Hebrew (http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm) is your best bet. :wink2:

But seriously, if you really want to understand the true meaning behind the text of the books in the Bible, I think you owe it to yourself to go beyond the English.  Often a single English word is entirely insufficient to convey the full meaning behind the Greek or Hebrew - so even the best translation possible can leave much to be desired.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: Jerm on October 04, 2009, 06:16:56 AM
If you can't read Greek and Hebrew fluently, then I think the best way to go is use different versions for different purposes.  Each one has it's own pros and cons so it's best to use several different translations.  A word to the wise about the Concordant Literal Version.  Yes it is in fact a very accurate, literal translation but that does not necessarily mean it's the absolute best. For one, it is not a very fluent read because of the literalness and I'm also irritated by the fact that half the time it is NOT a translation but a transliteration, which seems to me a sort of cop out regarding making decisions on certain words.  The fact that every single participle is left in the -ing form also makes for a non-fluent read (i.e. they were believing vs. they believed)  All that being said, I cannot deny that it is a very literal translation and thus a great study tool.
Title: Re: What bible?
Post by: jesushandsarekindhands on October 04, 2009, 08:40:14 PM
Thanks guys for all the help, really appreciate it all.