Sky receding like a scroll

[Beloved Servant]

                                           Not by Might, Not by Power, But by My Spirit, Says the Lord!Do not be deceived; God is not mocked
       
             
                                                                           

[eaglesway]

      As I see Revelations, the sealed book of Daniel(Dn12:4) is the same sealed book in the hands of the one who sits on the throne. The breaking of the seals are not historical, they are the opening for John, of that portion of Daniels revelation he was commanded to "seal up" until the time of the end. They are the unfolding of Johns vision as he sees it(breaking news :o). The things he sees are spiritual pictures of things in the heavens (unseen realities), all of which are active from then till now(at hand), but some of which will be "consummated" at the second advent. John was told at the end of his vision "do not seal up the book for the time is at hand." The breaking of each seal represents an opening of the formerly sealed revelation. The whole vision from the opening of the first seal onward is like a wheel with spokes to the center, which is, "the day of the Lord", or second coming, parousia, etc.
     
      It is a wheel, not a line. the sealed book is the rim of the wheel, the spokes all lead to the second coming which is revealed in four different places in Revelations. The day of the Lord is the hub of the wheel, which i believe(loosely) is Peters thousand year day,the day of the ages, beginning at the second coming and ending at the great white throne. JP Dake drew the conclusion that there where 4 appearings through the tribulation period, because he thought that Johns vision was chronological , as most folks do. If you note the similarities between the 7th trumpet and the 7th bowl, you might see that the bowls and the trumpets are occuring alongside each other, each culminating at the "Last trumpet", (Rev ch 10 I think...when the 7th angel (trumpet) sounds the mystery of God which He preached by His apostle aand prophets is finished) and then, when it sounds(rev 11) "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our God and His Christ; and then when the 7th bowl is poured out "It is done". The seals break, revealing separate simultaneoulsy occuring timelines and revelations of eternal heavenly realities, almost all of which I believe are consummated (fully manifested)at the 2nd advent. Thats a very brief view of my perspective on revelations and the seals trumpets bowls etc. I can go further, but I don't want to go further unless this is ringing a bell for someone.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: I'm listening....... :happygrin: Blessings....

[Beloved Servant]

I hear a bell!

[Doug]

Well, yes, it was certainly a glorious time.  This is what happens when an exceptional number of geniuses, [as were our own founders], are floating around at the same time.  And, all of this was growing out of two great events:  the Protestant Reformation and the invention of the printing press.

Also, the Royal Society, and similar societies elsewhere, provided the environment for the sharing and development of ideas.

Some of the individuals who preceded Newton, and contemporaries, who contributed to the scientific revolution are included in the list below. Newton said that he saw further because he "stood on the shoulders of giants."

Nicolaus Copernicus (1473-1543)
- proposed a heliocentric cosmology, and a rotating earth
- published De revolutionibus orbium coelestium (On the Revolutions of the Celestial Spheres) in the year of his death, 1545
- The Roman Catholic Church's Congregation of the Index banned 'De revolutionibus' in 1616, and also prohibited any work that defended the mobility of the Earth or the immobility of the Sun

Tycho Brahe (1546-1601)
- made accurate observations of planets
- catalogue of stars
- Tychonic System

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
- experimental method
- inductive reasoning

Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
- studied uniform acceleration
- improved telescope
- observed sunspots, satellites of Jupiter
- championed Copernicanism

Johannes Kepler (1571-1630)
- used astronomical observations made by Brahe
- derived 3 laws of planetary motion

René Descartes (1596-1650)
- connected plane geometry and algebra
- founded analytic geometry
- developed the Cartesian coordinate system

Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
- developed probability theory
- invented a mechanical calculator
- principles of hydrodynamics
- hydraulic press
- reasoning based on definitions

Robert Boyle (1627-1691)
- practiced the principles advocated by Bacon
- described experiments so others could repeat them
- propagation of sound
- Boyle's Law
- chemistry of combustion
- expansion of water upon freezing

Christiaan Huygens (1629-1695)
- invented pendulum clock
- discovered ring of Saturn
- organised Academie des Sciences, Paris 1666.
- developed the wave theory of light

Isaac Newton (1643-1727)
- theory of universal gravitation
- laws of motion
- classical mechanics
- conservation of momentum
- reflecting telescope
- theory of colour
- differential and integral calculus
- Principia Mathematica, 1687

Ole Christensen Rømer (1644-1710)
- finite speed of light
- explained discrepancy in the period of eclipses of the moons of Jupiter

Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz (1646-1716)
- differential and integral calculus
- binary math
- said the universe is the best one possible

Edmund Halley (1656-1742)
- encouraged Newton to write his Principia Mathematica, and financed its publication
- he proposed that the parabolic trajectory of a comet was an elongated ellipse, and that comets may return at regular intervals. On the basis of records of comet sightings in 1456, 1531, 1607 and 1682, he predicted its return in 1758. When his prediction came true, it was seen as confirming the Newtonian system. The comet was named Halley's Comet. It was seen again in 1835, 1910 and 1987.
- discovered the proper motion of the "fixed" stars

James Bradley (1693-1762)
- investigated parallax
- discovered aberration of light, proving the earth's motion

Daniel Bernoulli (1700-1782)
- fluid mechanics
- kinetic theory of gases

The scientific revolution, that fulfilled the prophecies of Isaiah 34:4, and Daniel 8:14, and 2 Peter 3:10, occurred on schedule because of their contributions.

Doug

[Beloved Servant]

"their contributions"

I argue: In His Wisdom!

We are forever established in present truth.

[Doug]

Isaiah 34
1 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.
2 For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.
3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.
4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.

This is telling us about God's "sword," which is symbolic of the scriptures. Paul said the scriptures are a "sword" in Eph. 6:17; "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:"

The author of Hebrews wrote:

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Isaiah said God's sword is "bathed in heaven." The sword is "steeped" or "soaked" in heaven, as this prophecy about the heavens being rolled together as a scroll demonstrates the effectiveness of God's word. The prophecy has come to pass, precisely. The supposed revolutions of the heavens ceased, during the scientific revolution, just like the spindles of a scroll cease rotating when they are rolled together. The rigid heaven of the ancient cosmology and all the planetary spheres have been forever abolished. 

This is an excellent proof of God's word, but it was not recognized by the Bible scholars and critics, or by the clergy, who all missed this amazing fulfillment of prophecy!

Paul says the warfare of the church is not against flesh and blood. So who are the ones who are slain in Isaiah's prophecy? Are they people? The armies of the nations? Or are these enemies spiritual?

Rev. 12:7-8 depicts a spiritual warfare:

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Angels or spirits at war suggest this is not referring to a flesh and blood struggle. But the saints are involved in it.

Rev. 12:11
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

The saints need to overcome the deceptions of Satan, and discover the truth.

Perhaps the "slain" in Isaiah's prophecy are the doctrines and theories that Christ makes war against, by His word, and flawed interpretations of prophecy, that the saints eventually overcome. The "mountains" that are "melted with blood" are the battlegrounds. These mountains represent the promises of God to the church, and prophecies of the Bible. I suggest failed interpretations of prophecy, and delusions, are the "slain" in Isaiah's prophecy.

Doug

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[Molly]

Amen Doug and Beloved Servant--

2Pe 3:10  But1161 the3588 day2250 of the Lord2962 will come2240 as5613 a thief2812 in1722 the night;3571 in1722 the which3739 the3588 heavens3772 shall pass away3928 with a great noise,4500 and1161 the elements4747 shall melt3089 with fervent heat,2741 the earth1093 also2532 and2532 the3588 works2041 that are therein1722, 846 shall be burned up.2618


[the heavens] "shall pass away"

G3928
παρέρχομαι
parerchomai
par-er'-khom-ahee
From G3844 and G2064; to come near or aside, that is, to approach (arrive), go by (or away), (figuratively) perish or neglect, (causatively) avert: - come (forth), go, pass (away, by, over), past, transgress.


"with a great noise"

G4500
ῥοιζηδόν
rhoizēdon
hroyd-zay-don'
Adverb from a derivative of ῥοῖζος rhoizos (a whir); whizzingly, that is, with a crash: - with a great noise.


"the elements"

G4747
στοιχεῖον
stoicheion
stoy-khi'-on
Neuter of a presumed derivative of the base of G4748; something orderly in arrangement, that is, (by implication) a serial (basal, fundamental, initial) constituent (literally), proposition (figuratively): - element, principle, rudiment.


"shall melt"

G3089
λύω
luō
loo'-o
A primary verb; to "loosen" (literally or figuratively): - break (up), destroy, dissolve, (un-) loose, melt, put off. Compare G4486.


...the earth and the works therein

"shall be burnt up"

G2618
κατακαίω
katakaiō
kat-ak-ah'ee-o
From G2596 and G2545; to burn down (to the ground), that is, consume wholly: - burn (up, utterly).

[Beloved Servant]

I'm comfortable with that Doug.
What discomforts me is your insistence.
Frankly, who cares?
We all know the Father needs no help.
We're His.

[Molly]

I care.  It's exciting.  :bigGrin:

And, yes, he does need help.

[Beloved Servant]

ok molly,

GOD NEEDS OUR HELP?


God forbid!

we are garbage without Him.

lol

we do not even exist without HIM HIM HIM HIM


HIM HIM HIM HIM

[Beloved Servant]

I care.  It's exciting.  :bigGrin:

And, yes, he does need help.

I'm sick about that.

[Zeek]

I'm sick about that.

As a man thinketh, so is he.

[Beloved Servant]

Not a thought, a reaction.
Those inclined, then, Go HELP God.
Let me know how you do.
I'm sure He needs some fresh ideas from you on how to finish up.

[Zeek]

I just get a kick how two "spirit filled believers" can believe/hear two different messages, yet earlier you said this "...When the Lord has something to say He will speak through you beyond your ability."

So, who is the deceived one and which one of you has heard the truth?? 


lol

[Beloved Servant]

and which are you?

[Zeek]

both and neither

[Beloved Servant]

lukewarm.

[Zeek]

lukewarm.

Is that a scripture??

[Beloved Servant]

just a revelation.

[Zeek]

 :Urock:   :grin:  :thumbsup:


my bad.  :hijacked:

[Molly]

ok molly,

GOD NEEDS OUR HELP?


God forbid!

we are garbage without Him.

lol

we do not even exist without HIM HIM HIM HIM


HIM HIM HIM HIM

It's just what I believe...And, what I was taught by my mother--so there! :laughing7:



35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

--Mat 25

[Doug]

It's just what I believe...And, what I was taught by my mother--so there!  :laughing7: 


35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

--Mat 25

It is possible for Christians to be spiritually naked, and in need of new clothing from God.

Paul spoke of having our "loins girt about with truth." This implies to be deceived, or ignorant, is to be naked.

Ephesians 6:14
Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Unless we realize our need for understanding, why would we ask God for answers?

Jesus said, "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled." [Mat. 5:6]

IMO, the prophecy of Isaiah 34 shows that God brought about the scientific revolution, and explains how the heavens were rolled together as a scroll, and eventually ceased their revolutions. This discredits both dispensationalism and preterism. If the explanation I suggested is right, both those views of prophecy are flawed. But most dispensationalists and preterists are unaware that their views are obsolete, like clothes that are dowdy, and torn, and need to be replaced.

Isaiah's amazing prophecy about the scientific revolution is like a new garment, that we can wear to cover up our naked condition.
   
When Jesus said "flee to the mountains," he did not mean literal ones. He meant the promises of God to his church, and the understanding of prophecy that He gives to us.

That's why He tells us: "let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes." [Mat. 24:16-18]

We need to put on the new clothes He provides, and leave the old ones behind. IMO.

Doug

[Doug]

Some of the early church fathers, of whom we have record, admired the geocentric cosmology of the pagan world. They apparently eschewed the 2nd epistle of Peter, perhaps because it contains the prophecy about the heavens passing away with great noise. [2 Pet. 3:10]  Scholars say there is no mention of 2 Peter, till about the 4th century. The early scholars of the church completely ignored Peter's epistle in their writing. Some modern scholars infer from this that Peter was not the author of that epistle, and it must have been written by later author. But Peter's epistle also speaks of false teachers, who would "bring in damnable heresies," so it is little wonder that those who were guilty would choose to ignore it.

In the first century AD, it was generally believed the heavens revolved around the earth every day.

Clement of Rome said, "the heavens are moved by his direction and obey him in peace." Likewise the sun and moon "according to his appointment circle in harmony within the bounds appointed to them."

The pagans identified heaven with Zeus, but Christian writers often identified God with Aristotle's "Prime Mover."

Clement of Alexandria (c. 150-212) accepted the system of Ptolemy, with whom he was a contemporary, and used it as a basis for allegory. He related cosmology to the tabernacle of Moses.
   
Origen (c. 185-254) introduced the "heavenly waters" of Scripture into cosmology, and interpreted them allegorically as referring to "good angels." In a letter to Gregory, later bishop of Caesarea, Origen calls the philosophy and astronomy of the Greeks helpful for the interpretation of scripture:

"And I would wish that you should take with you on the one hand those parts of the philosophy of the Greeks which are fit, as it were, to serve as general or preparatory studies for Christianity, and on the other hand so much of Geometry and Astronomy as may be helpful for the interpretation of the Holy Scriptures. The children of the philosophers speak of geometry and music and grammar and rhetoric and astronomy as being ancillary to philosophy; and in the same way we might speak of philosophy itself as being ancillary to Christianity."

Porphyry the pagan wrote that Origen "associated himself at all times with Plato."

Lactantius (c. 250-325) denied that the earth has a spherical shape, on the basis of a literal interpretation of the Bible, and ridiculed the idea that antipodes could exist, because he couldn't understand how people could live on the other side of the earth "with their feet higher than their heads."

Basil (329-379) studied at the Philosophical Academy at Athens, and was Bishop of Caesarea for the last ten years of his life. Whereas Aristotle had taught the heavens were eternal, Basil argued in his Homilies on the Hexaemeron that they had been created by God, who he identified with Plato's Demiurge.

[David C. Lindberg, 1986. Science and the Early Church. In: David C. Lindberg and Ronald L. Numbers, eds. God and Nature. University of California Press. Berkeley. p. 33]
   
Basil supposed the Creation account in Genesis spoke of two heavens, one created on the first day, and another on the second. The heavenly waters were in between. On Basil's thoughts about the waters above the firmament, Nebelsick wrote:

The heavenly waters, that touchstone of the created nature of the heavens, caused Basil a problem but it was not insuperable. There was no doubt in Basil's mind that there were waters above the firmament as attested by the biblical account of creation. However, since the firmament appeared to be curved, the heavenly waters were likely to pour off a dome-like surface and fall to the earth. With admirable ingenuity Basil suggested that the firmament, which appears hemispherical on the underside, may, like a building enclosing a dome-shaped bath, have a flat roof.

Although the argument for the presence of and the description of the waters may seem somewhat far-fetched to us, it indicates both the seriousness with which the early Christian theologians treated the biblical account of creation and the way they used the account to break with the unacceptable idea of the division of the world into an eternal and immutable heavenly sphere and a corruptible earthly realm.

Basil supposed that since Moses gave no discussion concerning the shape of the earth and did not say, for example, that its circumference contains one hundred and eighty thousand stades, such knowledge was quite unnecessary.

[Nebelsick, Harold P. 1985. Circles of God, Theology and Science from the Greeks to Copernicus. Scottish Academy Press, Edinburgh.  p. 94]
   
Severian, Bishop of Gabala (d. after 408) lacked appreciation of the cosmology of the philosophers, and depended upon Scripture instead. Nebelsick wrote:

The heaven which God created on the first day is a two-storied structure. There are waters above the heavens. The storeys themselves are divided by a ceiling in between them. The upper storey consists of fire without matter which was analogous to an angel, a spirit without a body. The lower storey is composed of fire and matter. Providence has arranged things in such a way that the heat of the fire moves downwards in order to warm the earth rather than moving upwards as is the case with fires on earth. The heaven we see is the lower heaven which was created on the second day. It is in the form of an envelope or bladder, the outside "skin" of which was composed of crystalline, congealed water to resist the fire of the sun, the moon, and the stars. The inside of the crystalline, congealed water structure is occupied by fire. For the present and until the eschaton, the water protects the heaven from dissolving or burning in the heat. On the last day, it will be used to quench the sun, moon, and stars.

[Nebelsick, p. 97-98]
   
On Diodore, Bishop of Tarsus (d. 394) Nebelsick wrote:

Like Severian, Diodore relied on Scripture for his supposition that there must be two heavens. The lower heaven subsists with the earth and forms the roof of the earth. The roof of the lower heaven forms the floor of the upper one. Heaven, therefore, could not be a sphere surrounding the earth but is rather a tent or vault above it. 

[Nebelsick, p. 99]

Eusebius Hieronymus, better known as St. Jerome, (391-406) translated the Bible into Latin, producing the standard text known as the Vulgate, which had a great influence in Europe in later centuries.

Before Jerome's translation appeared, several Latin versions of the scriptures were in circulation. The books of the O.T. had been translated from the Septuagint. There were major discrepancies between the various versions.

Jerome was educated in Rome, and studied under the grammmarian Aelius Donatus. He became a priest, and was secretary to Pope Damasus I from 382-385. In the year 383 Pope Damascus asked Jerome to produce a new, uniform edition of the Bible. Jerome's work was distinguished by his use of the Hebrew text, but he also had the LXX and earlier Latin versions available to him. The prefaces to his work show he was as much an editor of the earlier texts as a translator and adapter. Jerome's version of the scriptures was widely used after about the sixth century.

An ascetic, who favoured monasticism, and celibacy, he worked in a monastery in Bethlehem. Apparently, Jerome supposed that the sun and moon were living beings, and he thought biblical geography required that Jerusalem was at the center of the earth.

When it came to translating Genesis 1:8, Jerome needed a word other than "caelum" for the sky; to say "And God called the caelum caelum" would not do. The word he selected was "firmamentum," which was a reasonable translation of the Greek word "stereoma." But in Old Latin, firmamentum was not used for the sky at all. In Classical Latin, such as that of Julius Caesar, for example, "firmamentum" meant "a support", and could refer to "the strong point in an argument".

Augustine (354-430) thought the study of astronomy was secondary to theology. He introduced an imaginative explanation for the heavenly waters. They were there, he said, to cool the fast moving sphere of Saturn!

The worship of the traditional pagan gods was generally abandoned in the late 4th century AD and the pagan temples demolished, statues of the gods disfigured, and the priesthoods disappeared. Some temple sites were converted to Christian shrines, and idols of various Hellenistic gods were renamed as Christian saints and martyrs.

The church fathers mentioned above chose to support a flawed cosmology, which today is completely discredited. Their writings on the subject are viewed today as quaint curiosities. No one believes them. This fulfills the prophecy of Isaiah, in chapter 34, when he wrote "For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter. Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood." [Isa. 34:2-3]

I suggest the opinions of men such as those cited above about cosmology are the "slain" in Isaiah's prophecy. They embraced the pagan philosophy which Paul warned against.

Colossians 2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

What credibility is there in what they wrote about the natural world? They followed a "vain deceit." The "sword" of God's word fell upon them, in the scientific revolution, and destroyed their imaginary universe.

Doug

[eaglesway]

Rev 5:1-2  And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.  (2)  And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?

As I said before, I believe the sealed book in the hand of the one sitting on the throne is the book that Daniel was instructed to seal up....

Dan 12:4  But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

......so that the Revelation of John is the opening of the sealed book. The opening of each subsequent seal is like the turning of pages in the vision. Notice, at the end of the revelation ...

Rev 22:10  And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book(biblio -"roll" as in a scroll, writing): for the time is at hand.



If you line up the trumpets and the bowls, you see that several line up, alternately (Rev 15:1  And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up(teleo-finished/completed) the wrath of God.


Trumpet #2 a third of the seas turned to blood -  initiated
Bowl #2  all of the seas turn to blood -  completed

Trumpet#2 a third of the rivers and fountains turned to blood - initiated
Bowl #3     all the rivers and fountains turned to blood  -  completed

Trumpet #7 Rev 10:7  But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Rev 11:15  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever 

Bowl #7 Rev 16:15-18  Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.  (16)  And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.  (17)  And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.  (18)  And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

Notice also that immediately before the seventh trumpet sounds a voice from heaven shouts "Come up here" and the two witnesses are raised and ascend "in a cloud"(the dead in Christ rise first). Then it says this is the second woe, the third(which is the 7th trump) cometh "quickly"(tachu" immediately, suddenly)

Rev 11:12-14  And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.  (13)  And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.  (14)  The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.


So, I believe that the trumpets, the bowls, the vision of the two witnesses, the vision of the sun clothed woman and the dragon, and the vision of the towering messenger are all parallel(simultaneously occurring timelines...stories happening alongside and with each other). They are also age-during realities that consummate at the second coming and glorious appearing of Jesus.

At the "last trumpet" (7th) the mystery of God is finished. Why? No More Mystery. Christ in you the hope of glory is declared to the entire universe by the resurrection of those who are "His at his appearing" - the revelation of the sons of God. The open authority of Jesus Christ and the kingdom of priests restoring the creation from futility and ushering in the just(meted out in measure as deserved) punishments of God begins. The restitution of all things will be the openly declared will and work of God, as all the enemies are being made subject to His feet by the rod of iron.

The 7th bowl is introduced with the words, "Behold I come as a thief" and the words "It is done"(It hath come! YLT)

Other stuff:
The two witnesses prophesy for 3 1/2 years
The two witesses call down plagues as often as they like (perhaps 7 trumpets and 7 bowls), and when the beast that comes up from the pit overcomes them they lay in the streets for 3.5 days, until a voice cries out "Come up Here"(the voice of the arch angel) and they ascend into heaven in a cloud( He will come with ten thousands upon ten thousands of His saints) Notice then it says
(Rev 11:14,15) The second woe is past; behold, the third woe is coming quickly. Then the seventh angel sounded(This is the last trumpet); and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever."