Are we the only creation?

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WhiteWings

God created the universe and everything in it.
Does the Bible state that we are the only creation (except perhaps angles depending on your view what they are)
I just wondered if our ever existing God created before.
Is there anything in the Bible that gives a small hint on the above.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Nancy

Hi ya WhiteWings
Doesnt' Apostle Paul state the at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow whether celestial, terrestrial and sub-terranean (whatever that is).
Also that there are principalities and powers among the celestials!
Just a thought!
Godbless
Nancy

Tim B

Quote from: WhiteWings on September 05, 2009, 11:48:28 PM
God created the universe and everything in it.
Does the Bible state that we are the only creation (except perhaps angles depending on your view what they are)
I just wondered if our ever existing God created before.
Is there anything in the Bible that gives a small hint on the above.

I've wondered about this too. I don't really see any reason why He couldn't have. Also, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we some day find "aliens" on another planet or something. Maybe I'll meet some aliens after I die. lol

WhiteWings

Lots of aliens.
ETs alienated from the truth. :laughing7:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

WhiteWings

Quote from: Nancy on September 09, 2009, 11:07:19 PM
Also that there are principalities and powers among the celestials!
Agreed!
But that's about 'our' universe.
Are there more?
Did God create other universes before this one?

Personally I can't find anything that hints to that.
But neither I can find something that states it's not so.
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

sven

I think there might be celestial "races", where the believers will take part in to help to reconcile them to God in the ages to come.

Molly

[we] "wrestle" [..against]

G3823
πάλη
palē
pal'-ay
From πάλλω pallō (to vibrate; another form for G906); wrestling: - + wrestle.


"principalities"

G746
ἀρχή
archē
ar-khay'
From G756; (properly abstract) a commencement, or (concrete) chief (in various applications of order, time, place or rank): - beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule.


"powers"

G1849
ἐξουσία
exousia
ex-oo-see'-ah
From G1832 (in the sense of ability); privilege, that is, (subjectively) force, capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated influence: - authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power, right, strength.



"rulers" [of the darkness of this age]

G2888
κοσμοκράτωρ
kosmokratōr
kos-mok-rat'-ore
From G2889 and G2902; a world ruler, an epithet of Satan: - ruler.



[spiritual wickedness in] "high" [places]

G2032
ἐπουράνιος
epouranios
ep-oo-ran'-ee-os
From G1909 and G3772; above the sky: - celestial, (in) heaven (-ly), high.



I don't think any of these are aliens.



Paul Hazelwood

Quote from: Molly on September 10, 2009, 01:03:40 AM
[we] "wrestle" [..against]

G3823
πάλη
palē
pal'-ay
From πάλλω pallō (to vibrate; another form for G906); wrestling: - + wrestle.


"principalities"

G746
ἀρχή
archē
ar-khay'
From G756; (properly abstract) a commencement, or (concrete) chief (in various applications of order, time, place or rank): - beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule.


"powers"

G1849
ἐξουσία
exousia
ex-oo-see'-ah
From G1832 (in the sense of ability); privilege, that is, (subjectively) force, capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated influence: - authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power, right, strength.



"rulers" [of the darkness of this age]

G2888
κοσμοκράτωρ
kosmokratōr
kos-mok-rat'-ore
From G2889 and G2902; a world ruler, an epithet of Satan: - ruler.



[spiritual wickedness in] "high" [places]

G2032
ἐπουράνιος
epouranios
ep-oo-ran'-ee-os
From G1909 and G3772; above the sky: - celestial, (in) heaven (-ly), high.



I don't think any of these are aliens.






Not to God, no they wouldn't be alien.

Beloved Servant

lol, Good point Paul.
And they would be created in His image.

Molly

To God, they are those we are to vibrate against--since that's what he tells us.


G906
βάλλω
ballō
bal'-lo
A primary verb; to throw (in various applications, more or less violent or intense): - arise, cast (out), X dung, lay, lie, pour, put (up), send, strike, throw (down), thrust. Compare G4496.

Cardinal

Quote from: Molly on September 10, 2009, 01:03:40 AM
[we] "wrestle" [..against]

G3823
πάλη
palē
pal'-ay
From πάλλω pallō (to vibrate; another form for G906); wrestling: - + wrestle.


"principalities"

G746
ἀρχή
archē
ar-khay'
From G756; (properly abstract) a commencement, or (concrete) chief (in various applications of order, time, place or rank): - beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule.


"powers"

G1849
ἐξουσία
exousia
ex-oo-see'-ah
From G1832 (in the sense of ability); privilege, that is, (subjectively) force, capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated influence: - authority, jurisdiction, liberty, power, right, strength.



"rulers" [of the darkness of this age]

G2888
κοσμοκράτωρ
kosmokratōr
kos-mok-rat'-ore
From G2889 and G2902; a world ruler, an epithet of Satan: - ruler.

[spiritual wickedness in] "high" [places]

G2032
ἐπουράνιος
epouranios
ep-oo-ran'-ee-os
From G1909 and G3772; above the sky: - celestial, (in) heaven (-ly), high.

I don't think any of these are aliens.

:cloud9: Me either, but I think they do a good job of impersonating them. Blessings....
"I would rather train twenty men to pray, than a thousand to preach; A minister's highest mission ought to be to teach his people to pray." -H. MacGregor

Paul Hazelwood

Quote from: Molly on September 10, 2009, 04:14:43 PM
To God, they are those we are to vibrate against--since that's what he tells us.


G906
βάλλω
ballō
bal'-lo
A primary verb; to throw (in various applications, more or less violent or intense): - arise, cast (out), X dung, lay, lie, pour, put (up), send, strike, throw (down), thrust. Compare G4496.



Sure, that's probably what someone would use to justify intergalactic war.

\

reFORMer

One I specially remember was something like a sea-anenome that had a much smaller orange skinny spider like being that nervously skittered about through the waving papillae.  To translate its speech resulted in something like a few words culled from an Ezra Pound poem.  It wasn't known which of the symbiotic pair was the one with intelligence, or even if it was to be thought of like that.  (What novel I read approximately that in I don't recall.  I like it though.)

Molly

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Quote from: Paul Hazelwood on September 12, 2009, 06:51:18 AM
Quote from: Molly on September 10, 2009, 04:14:43 PM
To God, they are those we are to vibrate against--since that's what he tells us.


G906
βάλλω
ballō
bal'-lo
A primary verb; to throw (in various applications, more or less violent or intense): - arise, cast (out), X dung, lay, lie, pour, put (up), send, strike, throw (down), thrust. Compare G4496.



Sure, that's probably what someone would use to justify intergalactic war.

\

yeah.  It can get nasty.

Mark 16:17
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;


"cast out"

G1544
ἐκβάλλω
ekballō
ek-bal'-lo
From G1537 and G906; to eject (literally or figuratively): - bring forth, cast (forth, out), drive (out), expel, leave, pluck (pull, take, thrust) out, put forth (out), send away (forth, out).



"devils"

G1140
δαιμόνιον
daimonion
dahee-mon'-ee-on
Neuter of a derivative of G1142; a daemonic being; by extension a deity: - devil, god.

Paul Hazelwood


Yep, if their is life on other planets of course they are automatically devils cuz the byble sez.  Such nonsense.

WhiteWings

But still it's true Paul.
They fell of a planet north of us.
The so called fallen angels  :pointlaugh:
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Molly

Quote from: Paul Hazelwood on September 12, 2009, 04:04:05 PM

Yep, if their is life on other planets of course they are automatically devils cuz the byble sez.  Such nonsense.

He made it all for us.  That's what the Bible says.

We have dominion over everything.

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

--Gen 1


Paul Hazelwood

Quote from: Molly on September 12, 2009, 04:16:37 PM
Quote from: Paul Hazelwood on September 12, 2009, 04:04:05 PM

Yep, if their is life on other planets of course they are automatically devils cuz the byble sez.  Such nonsense.

He made it all for us.  That's what the Bible says.

We have dominion over everything.

14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

--Gen 1





Oh I am sure Hitler had his passages too.   







Paul Hazelwood

Quote from: WhiteWings on September 12, 2009, 04:06:10 PM
But still it's true Paul.
They fell of a planet north of us.
The so called fallen angels  :pointlaugh:


LOL

Molly

QuoteOh I am sure Hitler had his passages too.   

Hitler? Hitler was a demon  worshipper.  Check it out.

Paul Hazelwood

Quote from: Molly on September 12, 2009, 04:48:57 PM
QuoteOh I am sure Hitler had his passages too.   

Hitler? Hitler was a demon  worshipper.  Check it out.




Whatever you need to say to feel better about exterminating life on another planet.

Molly

Quote from: Paul Hazelwood on September 12, 2009, 05:00:09 PM
Quote from: Molly on September 12, 2009, 04:48:57 PM
QuoteOh I am sure Hitler had his passages too.   

Hitler? Hitler was a demon  worshipper.  Check it out.




Whatever you need to say to feel better about exterminating life on another planet.

LOL!

Show me life on another planet first.

Paul Hazelwood

Quote from: Molly on September 12, 2009, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: Paul Hazelwood on September 12, 2009, 05:00:09 PM
Quote from: Molly on September 12, 2009, 04:48:57 PM
QuoteOh I am sure Hitler had his passages too.   

Hitler? Hitler was a demon  worshipper.  Check it out.




Whatever you need to say to feel better about exterminating life on another planet.

LOL!

Show me life on another planet first.


No, you'll kill them all.

Molly

Quote from: Paul Hazelwood on September 12, 2009, 05:02:48 PM
Quote from: Molly on September 12, 2009, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: Paul Hazelwood on September 12, 2009, 05:00:09 PM
Quote from: Molly on September 12, 2009, 04:48:57 PM
QuoteOh I am sure Hitler had his passages too.   

Hitler? Hitler was a demon  worshipper.  Check it out.




Whatever you need to say to feel better about exterminating life on another planet.

LOL!

Show me life on another planet first.


No, you'll kill them all.
ok Keep them hidden, then.  I can see them in the movies.

rosered



  Good stuff guys , got my chuckle for the day LOL :icon_flower:  HA HA !

  The Image  thingy , lots to ponder in that area , there is a True  and there is a false Image
   deciding factor being to me the positive and negative charge of each 
causing  Chaos  to us ,but not to God because everything is in His Power
  :thumbsup: rose
Jesus is the reward  !!