1 Corinthians 15: 22-28..all comes together in context..

[lee100]

everyone,

Here is what I believe these scriptures are teaching.

Verse 21-22 man...man... Adam, who through his sin brought death on the whole human race, was human. So was Christ, who by His resurrection brought life to the race. all....all...The two "alls" are alike only in the sense that they both apply to descendants. The second "all' applies only to believers ( Gal 3:26,29; Eph 3:6) and does not imply universalism.

Verse 23 in his own order... Christ was the first fruits of the resurrection harvest ( v 20). Because of His resurrection " those who are Christ's will be raised and enter the eternal heavenly state in 3 stages at Christ's coming.
1) Those who have come to saving faith from Pentecost to the Rapture will be joined by living saints at the Rapture to meet the Lord in the air and ascend to heaven( 1 Th 4:16-17)
2) Those who come to faith during the Tribulation, with the OT saints as well, will be raised up to reign with Him during the Millennium ( Rev 20:4 ; Da 12:2 ; Is 26:19-20)
3) Those who die during the millennial kingdom may be instantly transformed at death into their eternal bodies and spirits. the only people left to be raised will be the ungodly and that will occur at the end of the  Millennium at the Great White Throne Judgment of God ( Rev 20:11-15 ; Jn 5:28-29, which will be followed by eternal hell ( Rev 21:8).

Verse 24 then comes the end... The third aspect of the resurrection involves the restoration of the earth to the rule of Christ, the rightful King. in the culmination of the world's history, after Christ has taken over the restored world for his Father and Reigned 1,000 yrs, all things will be returned to the way they were designed by God to be sinless glory of the new heavens and new earth ( Rev 21-22). Christ will permanently conquer every enemy of God and take back earth that He created and that is rightfully His. At The end of that 1000 yrs, Satan will be unleashed briefly to lead a final insurrection against God ( Rev 20:7-9). But with all who follow his hatred of God and Christ, he will be banished to hell with his fallen angels to suffer forever in the lake of fire (Rev 20:10-15)

Verse 25 all enemies under His feet... In the millennial kingdom, Christ's foes will be in subjection to Him.

Verse 26-27 last enemy....death.. Christ has broken the power of death ( Heb 2:14), at the cross. But Satan will not permanently divested of his weapon of death until the end of the Millennium. At that point, having fulfilled completely the prophecy of Psalm 8:6, Christ will then deliver the kingdom to His Father, and the eternal glory of Rev 21-22 will begin.

Verse 28 all in all.... Christ will reign in His former, full, and glorious place within the Trinity, subject to God in the way eternally designed for Him in full Trinitarian glory.

[peacemaker]

"Man cannot comprehend the existence of error, when to deeply immersed in it."

peacemaker

[lee100]

pm,

Glad you liked it.

[peacemaker]

Anytime, as you have much to learn!

peacemaker

[lee100]

pm,

I'm always learning from the Spirit of truth..are you?

[peacemaker]

The SPIRIT knows NO BOUNDARIES.

peacemaker

[willieH]

willieH:  FLAG on the POST!    :thumbdown:

TOO MANY UNBIBLICAL TERMS or QUOTATIONS in this POST...

100 yard penalty -- OUT of the GAME!  :thumbdown:

Any ATHIEST can come up with this garbage:

everyone,

Here is what I believe these scriptures are teaching.

Verse 21-22 man...man... Adam, who through his sin brought death on the whole human race, was human. So was Christ, who by His resurrection brought life to the race. all....all...The two "alls" are alike only in the sense that they both apply to descendants. The second "all' applies only to believers ( Gal 3:26,29; Eph 3:6) and does not imply universalism.  :surrender:

Verse 23 in his own order... Christ was the first fruits of the resurrection harvest  :surrender: ( v 20). Because of His resurrection " those who are Christ's will be raised and enter the eternal heavenly state in 3 stages at Christ's coming.  :surrender:

1) Those who have come to saving faith from Pentecost to the Rapture  :surrender: will be joined by living saints at the Rapture  :surrender: to meet the Lord in the air and ascend to heaven  :surrender: ( 1 Th 4:16-17)
2) Those who come to faith during the Tribulation,  :surrender: with the OT saints as well, will be raised up to reign with Him during the Millennium  :surrender: ( Rev 20:4 ; Da 12:2 ; Is 26:19-20)
3) Those who die during the millennial kingdom  :surrender: may be instantly transformed at death into their eternal bodies and spirits.  :surrender: the only people left to be raised will be the ungodly and that will occur at the end of the  Millennium  :surrender: at the Great White Throne Judgment  :surrender: of God ( Rev 20:11-15 ; Jn 5:28-29, which will be followed by eternal hell ( Rev 21:8).

Verse 24 then comes the end... The third aspect of the resurrection  :surrender: involves the restoration of the earth to the rule of Christ, the rightful King. in the culmination of the world's history, after Christ has taken over the restored world for his Father and Reigned 1,000 yrs, all things will be returned to the way they were designed by God to be sinless glory of the new heavens and new earth ( Rev 21-22). Christ will permanently conquer every enemy of God and take back earth that He created and that is rightfully His. At The end of that 1000 yrs, Satan will be unleashed briefly to lead a final insurrection  :surrender: against God ( Rev 20:7-9). But with all who follow his hatred of God and Christ, he will be banished to hell  :surrender: with his fallen angels  :surrender: to suffer forever in the lake of fire (Rev 20:10-15)

Verse 25 all enemies under His feet... In the millennial kingdom  :surrender: Christ's foes will be in subjection to Him.

Verse 26-27 last enemy....death.. Christ has broken the power of death ( Heb 2:14), at the cross. But Satan will not permanently divested of his weapon of death until the end of the Millennium  :surrender: At that point, having fulfilled completely the prophecy of Psalm 8:6, Christ will then deliver the kingdom to His Father, and the eternal glory of Rev 21-22 will begin.

Verse 28 all in all.... Christ will reign in His former, full, and glorious place within the Trinity  :surrender: subject to God in the way eternally designed for Him in full Trinitarian  :surrender: glory.

You're OUT!

Well? Are you going to ADMIT that you are COG37, ...lee100?  :dontknow:

[lee100]

willie,

Glad you like it.

[claypot]

Willie, he knows in whose camp it places him if he answers your question so I'm sure you won't get one, but good point.

He's a pro at stringing people along. I get the feeling I am his puppet on a string. I think he will keep going until the strings are cut. I don't think coglee has the smarts to do this, I think there is definitely a more powerful spirit at play here, coglee is just a pawn. I feel like a pawn too when I participate. Sad that some people can be so 'dark'.

cp

[gregoryfl]

That's why I deleted my post. There is a definite spirit in play, and it is NOT of our Lord.

[claypot]

I'm trusting the mods, that they know what they are doing here. I think we are playing with fire and I don't mean literal fire or the 'our God is a consuming fire' kind of fire.

cp

[lee100]

cp,

No offense, you have no discernment. You translate scripture out of your flesh. You make condescending remarks with every post. You never add too the discussion sound biblical views. This thread is probably way over your head to comprehend. Participate? all you do is lurk and make condescending remarks. That's how you participate. Do yourself a favor..examine yourself (2 Cor 13:5) to see if Christ be in you and if you fail the test..get on your knees and believe on Jesus with your heart and not your mind(Head knowledge) If you pass the test..dive head first into his word and ask the Holy Spirit to be your commentator instead of man.

[claypot]

cp,

No offense, you have no discernment. You translate scripture out of your flesh. You make condescending remarks with every post. You never add too the discussion sound biblical views. This thread is probably way over your head to comprehend. Participate? all you do is lurk and make condescending remarks. That's how you participate. Do yourself a favor..examine yourself (2 Cor 13:5) to see if Christ be in you and if you fail the test..get on your knees and believe on Jesus with your heart and not your mind(Head knowledge) If you pass the test..dive head first into his word and ask the Holy Spirit to be your commentator instead of man.

coglee, I don't worry about Christ being in me. I leave that truth and reality to God Himself. Don't bother trying to instruct me on how to 'do myself a favor'. I'm sorry coglee but your words and instructions sound too much to me like a snake trying to get me to eat fruit. I'm sure you think you mean well and I know you will be released from any dark power that holds you but until then, I choose not to really seriously heed anything you have to say.

I got quite a rise out of you this time. I wonder why? Hmmmmmmmmm.

cp

[lee100]

cp,

don't worry if Christ be in you?  All I forgot, if you die in your sins..you will be in hell just for an age, huh?How long is an age to the UR? 1000 yrs..2000 yrs ? That is a long time to be weeping and gnashing your teeth in torment. Who knows. Anyway,I'm not telling you to worry, just examine yourself like Paul told the Corinthian Church.(2 Cor 13:5) They too walked around saying, doing, fleshly things. They lived by their flesh. We all get in the flesh at times..some more than others..examine yourself to see if you are in the faith.

[Beloved Servant]

Tell me again; WHO is the accuser of the brethren?

[lee100]

bs,

to be part of the brethren, you must pass the test. you examine if you are in the faith ( 2 Cor 13:5) unless you fail the test.

[Beloved Servant]

Did you pass?

[FineLinen]

The Context=

http://www.tentmaker.org/forum/index.php?topic=1463.0

[claypot]

cp,

don't worry if Christ be in you?  All I forgot, if you die in your sins..you will be in hell just for an age, huh?How long is an age to the UR? 1000 yrs..2000 yrs ? That is a long time to be weeping and gnashing your teeth in torment. Who knows. Anyway,I'm not telling you to worry, just examine yourself like Paul told the Corinthian Church.(2 Cor 13:5) They too walked around saying, doing, fleshly things. They lived by their flesh. We all get in the flesh at times..some more than others..examine yourself to see if you are in the faith.

I don't worry if Christ be in me, coglee. My Master told someone to tell me to not worry about anything, so I don't. I don't worry or ask silly questions like how long is an age.

I do examine myself and usually find myself wanting as I see myself in Adam yet I do find myself totally loved and accepted as I view myself in Christ for as you know (but don't accept) as in Adam all die, in Christ all are made alive. Christ lights every man (person) who comes into the world.

Jesus is the true Light, which lights  every man that cometh into the world jn1.9

cp

[claypot]

cp,

No offense, you have no discernment. You translate scripture out of your flesh. You make condescending remarks with every post. You never add too the discussion sound biblical views. This thread is probably way over your head to comprehend. Participate? all you do is lurk and make condescending remarks. That's how you participate. Do yourself a favor..examine yourself (2 Cor 13:5) to see if Christ be in you and if you fail the test..get on your knees and believe on Jesus with your heart and not your mind(Head knowledge) If you pass the test..dive head first into his word and ask the Holy Spirit to be your commentator instead of man.

coglee, you have asked me to get on my knees and believe on Jesus with my heart and not my mind.........

Is this where your belief that most humans that God created will be in eternal torments comes from, your heart?

If you pass this test....dive head first into His word ask the Holy Spirit to be your commentator instead of man.

cp

[Paul Hazelwood]

bs,

to be part of the brethren, you must pass the test. you examine if you are in the faith ( 2 Cor 13:5) unless you fail the test.

2C 13:9 For we are rejoicing whenever we'  may be weak, yet you'  may be powerful. Now this are we wishing also: your adjustment.

[WhiteWings]

I'm trusting the mods, that they know what they are doing here. I think we are playing with fire and I don't mean literal fire or the 'our God is a consuming fire' kind of fire.

Unless I misunderstood your post I don't feel like playing with fire.
Obviously wrong things are IMO less dangerous than almost correct things.

As Paul Hazelwood mentioned a few days ago: We never been this much united.

I doubt anyone was temped by his views.
Ok, maybe WillieH as a bit tempted. :pointlaugh:
Whoops....

[WhiteWings]

1000 yrs..2000 yrs ? That is a long time to be weeping and gnashing your teeth in torment.

I have no idea how long it lasts. Never found anything but a very vague hint.
Many Jewish scholars seems to hold to a period of 5 months or 11 month. Or 12 month for the extremely wicked.
Even 5 hours or 5 minutes will be like eternity in the ET type of "hell".
But we not only disagree on the length but also the type. I don't believe in real flames etc.
That's pretty clear to me. What it exactly is like I have no clue about.

[Paul Hazelwood]

Oops,  looks like Lee100  got  an adjustment.

I wonder what name will be chosen for round 3.     :happy3:

[WhiteWings]

I don't worry if Christ be in me, coglee.

Cut that cord!  :laughing7:
Cool down. I'll buy you a few beers :thumbsup: