Brace Yourselves

[Beloved Servant]

By the Cross Sparrow.
Pick yours up and follow on to know the Lord.
Death is the precursor of Life.

[sparrow]

By the Cross Sparrow.
Pick yours up and follow on to know the Lord.
Death is the precursor of Life.

Beloved Servant.. how do you know that I have not "picked up my cross" and that I have not followed on to know the Lord?

I don't think you are answering what I am asking.

I'm talking specifically... with what people are talking about here, what are you doing to prepare?

[Beloved Servant]

I don't know.
Why the assumption?
You asked.
I answered.
If you have it on your shoulders, you're prepared.
Now, we die!
For only 2 days though!
We rise on the third. Praise God!

[sparrow]

ok, fair enough.

I'm just curious as to where folks minds are... what they are thinking...
with regards to this "brace yourselves" message.

thanks for answering.

[Beloved Servant]

"Our Ark is in Christ alone."
SPOKENFOR spoke it earlier Sparrow.

[sparrow]

Well... ok.
I don't think you understand what I'm asking.
sorry, I don't know how else to word it.
Perhaps later on I can figure out how to word what I'm trying to say.

peace to ya.

[Beloved Servant]

It's not about buying bottled water and candles and canned goods.
Is that what you're thinking?

[sparrow]

I really don't know, that's why I asked. I'm trying to understand what people ARE thinking...

[Beloved Servant]

There are three realms of man.
How do we prepare in the ...
Spiritual realm: ?
Soul realm: ?
Physical realm: ?
This is a good Bible study.

[jabcat]

Hi Sparrow.  I said this earlier for my  :2c:, and you said that's pretty much how you see it too.

Quote jabcat - "What am I doing to prepare?  Reading His Word, praying, trusting in Him...while at the same time making some physical preparations for self and family.  Seems responsible...but still knowing that if we were unable to provide for a single silver dime or a gallon of clean water, God would provide all we needed.   As I see it, bottom line...God's in control, He will protect us either on this side of the grave or especially on the other side...isn't that [or His "final" glorious return] where, after all, the mortal takes on the immortal? "

Yes I've put a few physical basics aside.  Not to totally depend on that stuff, because only in God do we really have any security and He's our only source of hope and meeting of our needs; but He has given us some "sense" as well  :dontknow:.   I see it kind'a like, don't overdo it, God will take care of His own.  But if I knew a plane was about to crash on my house, I'd get out of it and try and drag anyone else who might be in it along with me   :dontknow:.

[sparrow]

I know where to seek shelter in the storm.

I'm just trying to understand why people are sending out the weather forecasts all of a sudden...

does that make sense?

It's almost as if, and this is just from my perspective... It's almost as if...ok..

We're in a raging storm. There is no sign of it letting up. We all have umbrellas. There are people hurrying by and we are shouting to them "Come.... I have an umbrella...!!"

but then all of a sudden amongst us umbrella holders... there are those yelling "The rain is going to get worse!! Hailstones the size of baseballs are on the way!!!"

What is the reason for those people saying those things? Is it to perhaps warn people so they will come and get under the umbrella with us? Or is it to perhaps warn their fellow umbrella holders that they are going to need more durable umbrellas?

Do you understand what I'm saying?

There is so much FEAR in this world... that from my perspective, that is the last thing we need is to be sending more fear out there, especially by saying the hailstones are being sent down from God.

now for US... is it just a general kind of alarm to say "Hey... guys... though this world is getting worse... don't lose heart! Don't lose faith. Cling to Him... make your umbrella stronger!!"


Just trying to understand the OP.
Because I truly do not feel that I'm a place right now where I am understanding and I'd like to. I do NOT like to assume things. so that's why I'm trying to ask questions to understand the message.

Hopefully that analogy made sense.  :grin:

[sparrow]

Hi Sparrow.  I said this earlier for my  :2c:, and you said that's pretty much how you see it too.

Quote jabcat - "What am I doing to prepare?  Reading His Word, praying, trusting in Him...while at the same time making some physical preparations for self and family.  Seems responsible...but still knowing that if we were unable to provide for a single silver dime or a gallon of clean water, God would provide all we needed.   As I see it, bottom line...God's in control, He will protect us either on this side of the grave or especially on the other side...isn't that [or His "final" glorious return] where, after all, the mortal takes on the immortal? "

Yes I've put a few physical basics aside.  Not to totally depend on that stuff, because only in God do we really have any security, but He has given us some "sense" as well  :dontknow:.   I see it kind'a like, don't overdo it, God will take care of His own.  But if I knew a plane was about to crash on my house, I'd get out of it and try and drag anyone else who might be in it along with me   :dontknow:.

thanks jabcat..

I hope that SPOKENFOR doesn't feel like I am ganging up on her.
I truly am just trying to understand the message.
I don't know what else to say to get that across, other than to say it.
"I'm just trying to understand the message."

:HeartThrob:

[Beloved Servant]

Well, the OP didn't scare me.
I heard every word.
I want more as the Lord sees fit.

[firstborn888]

ok, fair enough.

I'm just curious as to where folks minds are... what they are thinking...
with regards to this "brace yourselves" message.

thanks for answering.

I asked that early on "How are you preparing?" in fact I think was my first post in this thread. I don't think anyone addressed it.

[Beloved Servant]

 They gird themselves with Faith, Hope and Love.
And the righteousness of God.

[SPOKENFOR]

There are three realms of man.
How do we prepare in the ...
Spiritual realm: ?
Soul realm: ?
Physical realm: ?
This is a good Bible study.

Exactly!..There are three realms.

I have found out that the soul is the place that resides many desires that are not necessarily God desires for us and we can confuse the two. Not that these desires are bad in themselves.

Soulish desires are what God is trying to get us to put to 'rest'. For soulish desires can and do often try to get in the way of the SPIRITUAL desires that God wish us to have, we can confuse the two.

[SPOKENFOR]

Hi Sparrow.  I said this earlier for my  :2c:, and you said that's pretty much how you see it too.

Quote jabcat - "What am I doing to prepare?  Reading His Word, praying, trusting in Him...while at the same time making some physical preparations for self and family.  Seems responsible...but still knowing that if we were unable to provide for a single silver dime or a gallon of clean water, God would provide all we needed.   As I see it, bottom line...God's in control, He will protect us either on this side of the grave or especially on the other side...isn't that [or His "final" glorious return] where, after all, the mortal takes on the immortal? "

Yes I've put a few physical basics aside.  Not to totally depend on that stuff, because only in God do we really have any security, but He has given us some "sense" as well  :dontknow:.   I see it kind'a like, don't overdo it, God will take care of His own.  But if I knew a plane was about to crash on my house, I'd get out of it and try and drag anyone else who might be in it along with me   :dontknow:.

thanks jabcat..

I hope that SPOKENFOR doesn't feel like I am ganging up on her.
I truly am just trying to understand the message.
I don't know what else to say to get that across, other than to say it.
"I'm just trying to understand the message."

:HeartThrob:

Sorry Sparrow,

I do not think you are ganging up on me. But, at times I have to back off from the conversation. It seemed to be going somewhere that I did not know. But, all is well.  :icon_flower:

[SPOKENFOR]

I now feel lead to bring some more things up. Sometimes God takes me a certain way and I have to go with the flow. With this will ALWAYS come misunderstanding and disagreements and confusion. I am use to that, but I have found that obedience to God is what also brings me peace, even if it is at the expense of someones temporary discomfort or confusion.

God is sounding and sending out TWO different alarms right now. He has two different messages being preached more and more and more, because the hour is drawing closer before we see these take place.

One message is 'judgment' on the unrighteous and unrepentant, The other message is "Glory of God upon the earth like nothing we have ever seen". Both of these messages are true and God is not contradicting himself and those who have been given this assignment to bring these messages are under much attack and mocking. I realized that God allows us to deal with these things because the truth is you get to share in the sufferings of Christ so that we will also be able to REIGN WITH HIM.

I want to say that the message of Judgment is very real and it is for the unrepentant. There is also a part that says the fearful will have their part in the Lake ( God is speaking of those who say Lord, Lord ) who did not find their comfort in Christ, there are many, many, many.

The message of the Glorious power of God and signs and wonders and miracles are very real as well, we will be seeing a combination of both.

It will be a very interesting time, very interesting.

I do not claim to see all the details of everything, I am not God, and he only shows us what he wants us to know and that which we can handle.

There is a certain place God want you to be in him that when you hear these things they do not phase you or scare you, because you know that judgment is not for you and you understand the purpose of it and that all these things must take place because they have been planned before we ever thought about being here. We are called to line up with God's plans, not ours. We are not called to walk by sight, but faith. We are not called to walk in any spirit of fear. If you are in fear, I will bravely say that you need to draw closer to God and I will not take that back.

At one time God had me proclaiming all the GOOD, I mean he was showing me things I could not keep up with it,seriously! I was so excited I did not want him to stop talking to me and showing me. After a while, months later, he took me another route and begin to show me the fires that he will bring to this country.

It is a reaping and sowing on one hand, on the other hand it is God saying, "Time to wake up, Time to grow up, Time to move to the next level".  "You may not understand it all, but FOLLOW ME still, keep your eyes on me".

So, we are going to see a combination of both.

To be honest, I am absolutely excited about what God is about to do. I am ready to see an end to wickedness and certain things in this country. I am ready to see a move of God that he has been preparing us for, I am absolutely ready for whatever God wants to do.

On the other hand I realize that many are going to go through some serious uncomfortable things and have to learn a new way to live, all of us. With that will come a realigning of values and what is important, God can't do it any other way. It will also bring much divisions as well, but do we not take the good with the bad that God gives us? He is provoking his BODY to maturity so that we are prepared for marriage. We need to understand these things.

Though he slays me and take me through, yet will I trust him. You need to ask God to get you to that point in life. You should be wanting to get to place where you do not love your own life even unto death if God required it of you.

[SPOKENFOR]

 Amen  Sis ,

there is the fruits   worthy of  repentace and than there is the firstfruits to God though His Holy Spirit !


Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance,


and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you,


That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.



 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees:


every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.  



Jhn 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast [them] into the fire, and they are burned.  


 I do see what you are saying  :HeartThrob:

Amen sis..We must produce fruit or he will cut is down and throw in the fire. The Lake of Fire is not just for the unbeliever, but the fearful. I would rather be refined right here than having to go there.

[SPOKENFOR]

"Those believers who spend their time worrying about a world government, the Illuminati, the Council on Foreign Relations, the European Union, communism, terrorists, conspiracies, or any other earthly thing will have no solace or security, but will find themselves in constant fear and dread, as Jesus forewarned, "Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on THE EARTH" (Lk. 21:26).  Take note that the fearful are among those who have their part in the lake of fire! (Rev. 21:8), for these have not learned to dwell in the secret place of the most High, under the shadow of the Almighty; they have remained inhabiters of the earth." — Preston Eby, FROM THE CANDLESTICK TO THE THRONE, Part 92

You are telling the truth...Yes Lord...

[SPOKENFOR]

Hi Sparrow.  I said this earlier for my  :2c:, and you said that's pretty much how you see it too.

Quote jabcat - "What am I doing to prepare?  Reading His Word, praying, trusting in Him...while at the same time making some physical preparations for self and family.  Seems responsible...but still knowing that if we were unable to provide for a single silver dime or a gallon of clean water, God would provide all we needed.   As I see it, bottom line...God's in control, He will protect us either on this side of the grave or especially on the other side...isn't that [or His "final" glorious return] where, after all, the mortal takes on the immortal? "

Yes I've put a few physical basics aside.  Not to totally depend on that stuff, because only in God do we really have any security and He's our only source of hope and meeting of our needs; but He has given us some "sense" as well  :dontknow:.   I see it kind'a like, don't overdo it, God will take care of His own.  But if I knew a plane was about to crash on my house, I'd get out of it and try and drag anyone else who might be in it along with me   :dontknow:.

Amen..Pretty much...We have to be Spirit lead in all things. I can't tell someone what to do or how to prepare in the natural, I really can't. God is leading some different ways.

[SPOKENFOR]

I do the same SPOKENFOR.

I sleep with Him, wake with Him.
At the store, He told me: "David, it's about the people, not the food; Spread good cheer!"
I could go on and on, but...
Point being is it's all about His life, on earth, expressed through the Manifested Sons of God!

Point being is it's all about His life, on earth, expressed through the Manifested Sons of God!

:thumbsup:  :thumbsup:

Tell me about it...he has become the air I breathe and song I sing...

I understand exactly what you mean about it is not about the food. Everything we do is always about 'us' touching people lives and making them a bit more better just because we were around. It is never about the job, the food, the anything. It is always about people and ministering..even if it is a 'smile'.

[SPOKENFOR]

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

The WRITTEN word of God is active, the Rhema Word of God is living and active and SHARP! JESUS the Word made FLESH is living and active.... IT is not all suppose to "feel good", who told you that lie? We need to get that revelation and quick. Wanting to feel good all the time is what is going to cause many to fall away and what causes it even now today. 

Wanting our ears always tickled and flesh under intense sensations and pleasure at whatever cost is causing us to be just where we are today, A MESS for the most part in this country. An absolute mess. Even the the believers, we don't stand out hardly from the world.

Division of the 'soul and spirit' is what God is out to accomplish. The soul craves for what it can see, smell, taste, touch that brings fleshly gratification one way or another...God is calling us to put our 'soulish desires'to absolute rest. When are are consumed and chasing after only soulish desires, your SPIRIT man is drowned-out and you can't hear or sense God the way he wants. You can't hear what the Spirit of the Lord is saying to the Churches because your Soul takes the number one place over your Spirit. Mind you, there is nothing wrong with soulish desires, for it is because of that you make decisions everyday and that we have come to where we are in many ways now.BUT, there is a time that you learn to walk not by the soul ( flesh/emotions), but by the SPIRIT of God in ALL things. This is the maturing of the Saints, this is where you are becoming sons of God. Those who are lead of the Spirit of God are called sons of God.

The earth is awaiting for those sons of God to come forth and appear. When you have reached that level of maturity, God can REALLY USE YOU THEN.  :thumbsup: Let us get there Saints.

We are SOULS that have a SPIRITS and our bodies are temples of the "Holy Spirit" to dwell. He can't dwell in most of us, He is silenced and drowned out can't be heard and quenched by us always feeding into our souls desires. ( fleshly desires )

Mark 8:36
What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul? I NOW understand what this scripture means.

Most of us at one time interpreted it as ET, and many still do today. It does not have anything with your soul going to eternal torment. For it is our SPIRIT that must be born-again, not our souls. Our souls must be silenced when the SPIRIT is speaking and moving. Our souls will lie to us and confuse us. It is where our emotions also come from. We are not called to live by emotions and feelings. People make too many emotional decisions based on how they feel or want to feel.

That is why we must began to read the Gospels of Jesus and pray for revelation, We need a revelation of what it means to be a "Christian" a "Follower of Christ", and the "Mind of Christ" the average church can not even preach what it is , for they themselves have silenced the Holy Spirit and are operating on a Soulish level where the world operates. The Holy Spirit has been quenched. God will not compete with flesh forever.

We are to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. If you are not transformed in the MIND, you can not understand the deeper things of God. You will remain at a carnal level ( fleshly soul level ), never growing into SPIRITUAL maturity and God did not send his Son to die to leave us as we are.

Oh yes, he loves us as we are, but he loves us tooooooo much to leave us the way we are.

I told the Lord I loved him and he told me like Peter, "If you love me, feed my sheep". I said Lord I will feed your sheep even if it kills me and I am not liked and scorned and mocked. I will feed your sheep because I love you.  :HeartThrob:

[Molly]

OK, so any kind of information about the real world makes one fearful.  Isn't that how we got here in the first place?  No one has any clue what is going on and when someone tries to tell them, they get 'fearful'  and say,  fear is bad, go away.

Looks like the same old story to me.

Numbers 13:33
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

God's sons are warriors.  A few giants don't scare them half to death.  They scout and then they give a good report.

30And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.

--Numbers 13


So I wait for those who are not afraid of a few giants and are willing and able to possess the land of milk and honey, because it's right there on the horizon and the giants will turn and run when God's sons appear.



"Caleb"
H3612
כּלב
kâlêb
kaw-labe'
Perhaps a form of H3611, or else from the same root in the sense of forcible; Caleb, the name of three Israelites: - Caleb.

[SPOKENFOR]

Amen Molly!......Amen! Tell it...