1000-Year Period

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: This is what He has shown me too Willie (you explain it very well, that which is nearly unexplainable without breaking out into tongues  :winkgrin:), pertaining to the day of the Lord, which IS CHRIST, which we are to enter into. Blessings....

[Nathan]

Willie, once again you have GREATLY blessed me in your words . . .keep pouring this stuff out man, this was SOOOOO Good!!!!!

[rosered]

   Right on Willie ,
  born of God , now there is LIFE in them Words .... :thumbsup:  one is never  so empty when FULL of self

  no more empty
  but carry with the heart[vessel]   the true treasure of Life in Christ... :HeartThrob:

Phl 2:16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain. 


1Jo 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 

[lsmann2]

Never rob Peter to pay Paul.
Believers today are called to be a part of the Body of Christ. This group of believers is different from the group called, TheBride of Christ.
If you mix the earthly promises of Israel(the Bride), with the heavenly calling out of the Body, you will be for ever "spiritualizing" very literal promises for Israel, and you'll end up very confused. Paul called it mixing law with grace.
In Galatians, Paul exhorts those believers not to go back to "the weak and beggarly elements" which put us right back into the bondage of "The Law".
All Scripture is written FOR us. Not all Scripture is written TO us.

Lee

[jabcat]

Never rob Peter to pay Paul.
All Scripture is written FOR us. Not all Scripture is written TO us.

Lee

:thumbsup:

[Beloved Servant]

Are you saying that natural Israel, that group of people that now live on the Mediterranean, are the Bride of Christ?

[lsmann2]

Are you saying that natural Israel, that group of people that now live on the Mediterranean, are the Bride of Christ?

Beloved,
I'm a believer in the "snatching away" of Christ's Body (the Church) out of the coming indignation. (see 1st Thes. 4:14-17). To me, Paul is saying that the believers today will not have to go through the tribulation. We will be appearing with Christ as His Body in the heavenlies.
When Christ re-appears on earth, (at least 7 years after we're snatched away), He will call up and ressurrect the Twelve Disciples and the faithful of that dispensation.(Peter's converts) They, along with those who believe in that day, will rule and reign with Christ, HERE ON EARTH. All nations will have to go thru Israel to be blessed during that time.  (often called the Millineum, or the Day of Christ)God will write His law in thier hearts and they will do His law perfectly.(they'll be "Born Again")
After the "Millinium", the earth and the heavens will be destroyed by fire, and there will be a new heavens and a new earth.( God's Day)
At the end of God's Day, all authority and power will be subjected to Christ, the last enemy destroyed, death. Then Christ Himself will subject Himself to God. Then God will be all in all. (that's when everyone will "be saved"!!)
I'll look up all the Scriptures I just referenced and post them in a little bit.

Lee

[Beloved Servant]

Ismann, that was a yes or no question.

[Beloved Servant]

Although I posted this an another thread; I am compelled to post it here as well.

We need to read the scriptures with the Author.
Otherwise, it is a dead letter that Adam will interpret with his mind.
Alone, it is a wonderful book, but confounds the mind of man.
Read with the breath of God, it brings wisdom, knowledge and understanding.

[lsmann2]

Ismann, that was a yes or no question.

In that case, NO.

Lee
(my kids accuse me of using that option too often)

[lsmann2]

My last post was not pertainent to this discussion. Sorry.
Lee

[Nathan]

Never rob Peter to pay Paul.
Believers today are called to be a part of the Body of Christ. This group of believers is different from the group called, TheBride of Christ.
If you mix the earthly promises of Israel(the Bride), with the heavenly calling out of the Body, you will be for ever "spiritualizing" very literal promises for Israel, and you'll end up very confused. Paul called it mixing law with grace.
In Galatians, Paul exhorts those believers not to go back to "the weak and beggarly elements" which put us right back into the bondage of "The Law".
All Scripture is written FOR us. Not all Scripture is written TO us.

Lee

I am one who looks for the spiritual truth in every literal passage of Scripture.  And from "this" perspective, I find your explanations here very confusing.  First, I don't see at all that seeing things spiritually is mixing law with grace . . .I actually see it just the opposite.  Seeing the spiritual intent is actually "free from" the laws of my mind, my natural reasoning.  And it leads me "out" of the confusion taught by tradtions, not into confusion.  Even your rendition of the idea that today's believers are not the bride of Christ . . .what????

If I believe in Christ . . .how can I 'not' become a bride "of" Christ?  There is only one power that can be at work in us . .either it's "me" or it's Christ "in" me.  When I accept Christ, when I acknowledge he is my Messiah, when I pursue him, he then enters, he becomes active "in" me transforming my desires to be his desires and gives me the strength to manifest his desires in my life . . .how is that "not" becoming the bride of Christ?

then you say later on that you are a beleiver of the rapturing of the church . .as am I, but I sense our perspectives on what realm that rapture is taking place may be where the differences are.  I believe my rapture takes place when the Father begins revealing the nature of Christ to me, through me, and in me . . .it takes one's breath away . . .it "harpoozo (s)" me.  It catches me up, snatches me away . . .but in the flesh, my body still remains here, but as other places in Scriptures also state, those breath-taking experiences do manifest in my flesh by "quickening" me, it gets me excited to see.

so for me, it again is just the opposite, rather than mixing spirit and flesh, I'm retaining the spiritual truth.  It is those who believe this rapture is going to be a natural disappearance of millions of people, it is those that are taking a spiritual truth and mixing it with natural understanding.  It also says in Scripture that women are to remain silent in the church and let the men receive and take the message home and explain it to their wives . . . yet even the traditional church, aside from a few  religious far right-wing exceptions, even the church will tell you that this is not meant FOR US to take literally .  . but then they leave it there . . .it's like . . ."just throw that part out because it doesn't apply to us now . . ."

But unfortunately, they are missing the point . . .it DOES apply to us now  . . . but it just doesn't apply to us physcially, or literally . . it applies to me spiritually.  My woman in me, which is your soul, or your mind . . ."that's" what's to be silent so my spirit, my man, can receive truth.  This is the part the church fails to explain.  But my point also is, if "this" isn't to be taken literally, but spiritually, then why not the entire Bible the same way?

Romans 1:20 . . God actually uses the natural to reveal spiritual . . .he doesn't "mix" them in, he uses one to unlock the depths of the other.

This coming Sunday, I get to lead the church where I am into a new perspective about an old story . . .Sampson . . .it's all about spiritual revelation.  The guy is known for strength . .but where does it come from?  His hair.  Why?  What's the message there?  In using natural revealing spiritual principles, what is it that your hair is covering?  Even in Revelation, John went into great detail when explaining Jesus in the candlestick . . his hair was pure white.  Hair is what covers your head . . .John the Baptist lost his . .so did Goliath . . . it's about losing your mind and putting on the mind of Christ . . ."He" is the head, we are the body.

The story of Sampson is a lesson on how powerful the mind is and once Samson revealed the key . . .which is a picture of us giving our intimacy over to the woman in us rather than to the Spirit, we become as Israel was . . .a whoring mind.  As a result, Samson had his eyes gouged out . . .we become blind to spiritual truths around us.  And he was forced to live in hard labor for the rest of his life . . .until the hair grew back.  This devastating thing that happened to him was what actually realigned him.  In the end, the power came back and he took down the foundation pillars of the city . . .he took back the authority he'd lost. 

Remember what got him into trouble with Delilah's friends and relatives?  It was a riddle he made up.  It was a mind game that started the whole thing collapsing in on him. 

Spiritual mixing with natural?  No, that only creates giants . .perversions of created beings.  Using natural to reveal spiritual?  "That" is what sharing the kingdom with others is all about.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Amen Nathan.......Of course He uses natural to reveal Spiritual; it's His "wife", His witness, the darkened glass (mirror/soul) we look at trying to get a glimpse of Him.

And as the light gets brighter and brighter, we see Him more clearly, as He is NOW, ie. NOW we'll no longer know Him after (or in the manner of) the flesh/natural, but we'll know Him after the Spirit.

"Now" there was not just a description of a point in the framework of time, but rather a description of the nature of Him who is ever changing, yet ever remaining the same, Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. How is this possible?

Because what He reveals of Himself and His nature to you in that split second, in the twinkling (Greek word atomos, ie. our atom) of an eye, in essence, just translated you out the kingdom of darkness (your carnal mind's understanding) and into the kingdom of light (mind of Christ).

This is knowing Him as He is NOW, as He appears to you at that second in revealed knowledge, ie. when the times of refreshing come. It's not what you perceived about Him yesterday (although that was your NOW for then and therefore just as valid), and it's not what you may be allowed to perceive about Him tomorrow (and that will be your NOW for then).

This is why He said to thank Him for what we have TODAY and let tomorrow take care of itself. Because yesterday is now the "night" of the past, and though He was in it then, the light of His glory has moved, but He's the light in the "provisions" for tomorrow, also.

He didn't change; our perception of Him did. Blessings....

[lsmann2]

Never rob Peter to pay Paul.
Believers today are called to be a part of the Body of Christ. This group of believers is different from the group called, TheBride of Christ.
If you mix the earthly promises of Israel(the Bride), with the heavenly calling out of the Body, you will be for ever "spiritualizing" very literal promises for Israel, and you'll end up very confused. Paul called it mixing law with grace.
In Galatians, Paul exhorts those believers not to go back to "the weak and beggarly elements" which put us right back into the bondage of "The Law".
All Scripture is written FOR us. Not all Scripture is written TO us.

Lee

I am one who looks for the spiritual truth in every literal passage of Scripture.  And from "this" perspective, I find your explanations here very confusing.  First, I don't see at all that seeing things spiritually is mixing law with grace . . .I actually see it just the opposite.  Seeing the spiritual intent is actually "free from" the laws of my mind, my natural reasoning.  And it leads me "out" of the confusion taught by tradtions, not into confusion.  Even your rendition of the idea that today's believers are not the bride of Christ . . .what????

If I believe in Christ . . .how can I 'not' become a bride "of" Christ?  There is only one power that can be at work in us . .either it's "me" or it's Christ "in" me.  When I accept Christ, when I acknowledge he is my Messiah, when I pursue him, he then enters, he becomes active "in" me transforming my desires to be his desires and gives me the strength to manifest his desires in my life . . .how is that "not" becoming the bride of Christ?

then you say later on that you are a beleiver of the rapturing of the church . .as am I, but I sense our perspectives on what realm that rapture is taking place may be where the differences are.  I believe my rapture takes place when the Father begins revealing the nature of Christ to me, through me, and in me . . .it takes one's breath away . . .it "harpoozo (s)" me.  It catches me up, snatches me away . . .but in the flesh, my body still remains here, but as other places in Scriptures also state, those breath-taking experiences do manifest in my flesh by "quickening" me, it gets me excited to see.

so for me, it again is just the opposite, rather than mixing spirit and flesh, I'm retaining the spiritual truth.  It is those who believe this rapture is going to be a natural disappearance of millions of people, it is those that are taking a spiritual truth and mixing it with natural understanding.  It also says in Scripture that women are to remain silent in the church and let the men receive and take the message home and explain it to their wives . . . yet even the traditional church, aside from a few  religious far right-wing exceptions, even the church will tell you that this is not meant FOR US to take literally .  . but then they leave it there . . .it's like . . ."just throw that part out because it doesn't apply to us now . . ."

But unfortunately, they are missing the point . . .it DOES apply to us now  . . . but it just doesn't apply to us physcially, or literally . . it applies to me spiritually.  My woman in me, which is your soul, or your mind . . ."that's" what's to be silent so my spirit, my man, can receive truth.  This is the part the church fails to explain.  But my point also is, if "this" isn't to be taken literally, but spiritually, then why not the entire Bible the same way?

Romans 1:20 . . God actually uses the natural to reveal spiritual . . .he doesn't "mix" them in, he uses one to unlock the depths of the other.

This coming Sunday, I get to lead the church where I am into a new perspective about an old story . . .Sampson . . .it's all about spiritual revelation.  The guy is known for strength . .but where does it come from?  His hair.  Why?  What's the message there?  In using natural revealing spiritual principles, what is it that your hair is covering?  Even in Revelation, John went into great detail when explaining Jesus in the candlestick . . his hair was pure white.  Hair is what covers your head . . .John the Baptist lost his . .so did Goliath . . . it's about losing your mind and putting on the mind of Christ . . ."He" is the head, we are the body.

The story of Sampson is a lesson on how powerful the mind is and once Samson revealed the key . . .which is a picture of us giving our intimacy over to the woman in us rather than to the Spirit, we become as Israel was . . .a whoring mind.  As a result, Samson had his eyes gouged out . . .we become blind to spiritual truths around us.  And he was forced to live in hard labor for the rest of his life . . .until the hair grew back.  This devastating thing that happened to him was what actually realigned him.  In the end, the power came back and he took down the foundation pillars of the city . . .he took back the authority he'd lost. 

Remember what got him into trouble with Delilah's friends and relatives?  It was a riddle he made up.  It was a mind game that started the whole thing collapsing in on him. 

Spiritual mixing with natural?  No, that only creates giants . .perversions of created beings.  Using natural to reveal spiritual?  "That" is what sharing the kingdom with others is all about.

Nate,
I appreciate what you're saying here. If you believe there is only one group of people called "The Church",(as I used to) then the things I've stated about the differences between the "bride" and the "body" seem really confusing.
If you look at the Scriptures, especially the Greek, or so called "New Testament", you can see that almost everything in them relates to the covenants made between God and Israel.
Until we get to the Apostle Paul, we as Gentiles can only have a relationship with God thru Israel, as converts to the Jewish faith. It is Paul who introduces us to a "direct" access to God, thru the faith of Christ Jesus.
Paul takes the distinction of our hope even further when he starts telling us about a "heavenly" calling.(see Ephesians)
I believe the promises made to Israel are for Israel, not us.
In the dispensation we are currently in, the Apostle Paul tells us that he is the dispenser of this gospel. He even calls it "his" gospel. I believe there is a reason he makes the distinction. I believe it's because it's a different gospel than was presented to Israel for entry into an earthly kingdom.
Repentence, baptism with water, are required for entry to the earthly kingdom. Not so with the grace God has poured out on us today.
Israel has been promised and will receive an earthly kingdom. We have been granted a heavenly abode, as members of the body of Christ.
Different groups of believers, different callings, different promises. That's why I say the "Bride" is not the "Body".

Lee

[Beloved Servant]

Amen Nathan: the Giver
Amen Cardinal: the Hinge

[Beloved Servant]

Hebrews 6: 4-9, Amplified Bible

    4For it is impossible [to restore and bring again to repentance] those who have been once for all enlightened, who have consciously tasted the heavenly gift and have become sharers of the Holy Spirit,

    5And have felt how good the Word of God is and the mighty powers of the age and world to come,

    6If they then deviate from the faith and turn away from their allegiance--[it is impossible] to bring them back to repentance, for (because, while, as long as) they nail upon the cross the Son of God afresh [as far as they are concerned] and are holding [Him] up to contempt and shame and public disgrace.

    7For the soil which has drunk the rain that repeatedly falls upon it and produces vegetation useful to those for whose benefit it is cultivated partakes of a blessing from God.

    8But if [that same soil] persistently bears thorns and thistles, it is considered worthless and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.(A)

    9Even though we speak this way, yet in your case, beloved, we are now firmly convinced of better things that are near to salvation and accompany it.

[Nathan]

Never rob Peter to pay Paul.
Believers today are called to be a part of the Body of Christ. This group of believers is different from the group called, TheBride of Christ.
If you mix the earthly promises of Israel(the Bride), with the heavenly calling out of the Body, you will be for ever "spiritualizing" very literal promises for Israel, and you'll end up very confused. Paul called it mixing law with grace.
In Galatians, Paul exhorts those believers not to go back to "the weak and beggarly elements" which put us right back into the bondage of "The Law".
All Scripture is written FOR us. Not all Scripture is written TO us.

Lee

I am one who looks for the spiritual truth in every literal passage of Scripture.  And from "this" perspective, I find your explanations here very confusing.  First, I don't see at all that seeing things spiritually is mixing law with grace . . .I actually see it just the opposite.  Seeing the spiritual intent is actually "free from" the laws of my mind, my natural reasoning.  And it leads me "out" of the confusion taught by tradtions, not into confusion.  Even your rendition of the idea that today's believers are not the bride of Christ . . .what????

If I believe in Christ . . .how can I 'not' become a bride "of" Christ?  There is only one power that can be at work in us . .either it's "me" or it's Christ "in" me.  When I accept Christ, when I acknowledge he is my Messiah, when I pursue him, he then enters, he becomes active "in" me transforming my desires to be his desires and gives me the strength to manifest his desires in my life . . .how is that "not" becoming the bride of Christ?

then you say later on that you are a beleiver of the rapturing of the church . .as am I, but I sense our perspectives on what realm that rapture is taking place may be where the differences are.  I believe my rapture takes place when the Father begins revealing the nature of Christ to me, through me, and in me . . .it takes one's breath away . . .it "harpoozo (s)" me.  It catches me up, snatches me away . . .but in the flesh, my body still remains here, but as other places in Scriptures also state, those breath-taking experiences do manifest in my flesh by "quickening" me, it gets me excited to see.

so for me, it again is just the opposite, rather than mixing spirit and flesh, I'm retaining the spiritual truth.  It is those who believe this rapture is going to be a natural disappearance of millions of people, it is those that are taking a spiritual truth and mixing it with natural understanding.  It also says in Scripture that women are to remain silent in the church and let the men receive and take the message home and explain it to their wives . . . yet even the traditional church, aside from a few  religious far right-wing exceptions, even the church will tell you that this is not meant FOR US to take literally .  . but then they leave it there . . .it's like . . ."just throw that part out because it doesn't apply to us now . . ."

But unfortunately, they are missing the point . . .it DOES apply to us now  . . . but it just doesn't apply to us physcially, or literally . . it applies to me spiritually.  My woman in me, which is your soul, or your mind . . ."that's" what's to be silent so my spirit, my man, can receive truth.  This is the part the church fails to explain.  But my point also is, if "this" isn't to be taken literally, but spiritually, then why not the entire Bible the same way?

Romans 1:20 . . God actually uses the natural to reveal spiritual . . .he doesn't "mix" them in, he uses one to unlock the depths of the other.

This coming Sunday, I get to lead the church where I am into a new perspective about an old story . . .Sampson . . .it's all about spiritual revelation.  The guy is known for strength . .but where does it come from?  His hair.  Why?  What's the message there?  In using natural revealing spiritual principles, what is it that your hair is covering?  Even in Revelation, John went into great detail when explaining Jesus in the candlestick . . his hair was pure white.  Hair is what covers your head . . .John the Baptist lost his . .so did Goliath . . . it's about losing your mind and putting on the mind of Christ . . ."He" is the head, we are the body.

The story of Sampson is a lesson on how powerful the mind is and once Samson revealed the key . . .which is a picture of us giving our intimacy over to the woman in us rather than to the Spirit, we become as Israel was . . .a whoring mind.  As a result, Samson had his eyes gouged out . . .we become blind to spiritual truths around us.  And he was forced to live in hard labor for the rest of his life . . .until the hair grew back.  This devastating thing that happened to him was what actually realigned him.  In the end, the power came back and he took down the foundation pillars of the city . . .he took back the authority he'd lost. 

Remember what got him into trouble with Delilah's friends and relatives?  It was a riddle he made up.  It was a mind game that started the whole thing collapsing in on him. 

Spiritual mixing with natural?  No, that only creates giants . .perversions of created beings.  Using natural to reveal spiritual?  "That" is what sharing the kingdom with others is all about.

Nate,
I appreciate what you're saying here. If you believe there is only one group of people called "The Church",(as I used to) then the things I've stated about the differences between the "bride" and the "body" seem really confusing.
If you look at the Scriptures, especially the Greek, or so called "New Testament", you can see that almost everything in them relates to the covenants made between God and Israel.
Until we get to the Apostle Paul, we as Gentiles can only have a relationship with God thru Israel, as converts to the Jewish faith. It is Paul who introduces us to a "direct" access to God, thru the faith of Christ Jesus.
Paul takes the distinction of our hope even further when he starts telling us about a "heavenly" calling.(see Ephesians)
I believe the promises made to Israel are for Israel, not us.
In the dispensation we are currently in, the Apostle Paul tells us that he is the dispenser of this gospel. He even calls it "his" gospel. I believe there is a reason he makes the distinction. I believe it's because it's a different gospel than was presented to Israel for entry into an earthly kingdom.
Repentence, baptism with water, are required for entry to the earthly kingdom. Not so with the grace God has poured out on us today.
Israel has been promised and will receive an earthly kingdom. We have been granted a heavenly abode, as members of the body of Christ.
Different groups of believers, different callings, different promises. That's why I say the "Bride" is not the "Body".

Lee

For me bro, the things God gives are spiritual, the judgment is spiritual, the things we lay up are spiritual, as are these promises.  I do agree that Paul's gospel was different than say, that of Peter's because Peter went to the Jews, Paul went to the Gentiles . . .in the book of Acts, there was a great disturbance in the church because Jews were trying to bring the Gentiles into Christ through their heritage-laws . . .Paul had to drop everything and report to the other apostles in Jerusalem that one, his gospel was different from theirs and two, it was supposed to be because it was reaching out to nonJewish people.

Having said all of that . . .Scripture also states that in the spirit, there is neither Jew nor Greek, bond or free, male or female.  So, spiritually speaking . . .those things seemingly geared toward Jews are actually toward the body . . .Paul even stated . .again, his ministry being to the Gentiles, that we, as Gentiles (in the flesh) are grafted (in the spirit) into the same heritage as the Jews where we fulfill the prayer of Jesus himself when he prayed that we all become as "one" with the Father even as he is one. 

[claypot]

Never rob Peter to pay Paul.
All Scripture is written FOR us. Not all Scripture is written TO us.

Lee

:thumbsup:

I used to believe that guys but no more. A nice saying but I believe all Scripture is for every person and to every person. If only one human being lived this person would sum up all Scripture and Scripture would sum up the person.

I just can't see that God would write a bit for some people and then a little over here for someone else and so on. No I see all of Scripture, in some way, in my very make-up, my world, my being. I don't understand it all but when I focus on any part of Scripture I see something of me and for me in it as I see it apply to all people.

cp

[Beloved Servant]

Nathan,
That brought a tear of joy to my eye.
Continue in the Lord.
Let every moment of your day be praise to His name.
Pray continually.
Ceaselessly.
Your life is worship.
Wake every morning in Zion.

[Beloved Servant]

Adding to Nathan's revelation.
For every man:
Genesis starts in your left ear and Revelation ends in your right.
The whole Bible will unfold in your own life.
It is your life.
Find your place.

[claypot]

Although I posted this an another thread; I am compelled to post it here as well.

We need to read the scriptures with the Author.
Otherwise, it is a dead letter that Adam will interpret with his mind.
Alone, it is a wonderful book, but confounds the mind of man.
Read with the breath of God, it brings wisdom, knowledge and understanding.

BS (Man I hate using your initials!!!  :laughing7:)................Beserv,

Great stuff and Nathan, wow Brother!

Each person is the world that God so loves that He gives His Son to. I see something of myself in all people and something of all people in myself. God made MAN in His image. He had some books written about what He did and is doing. This book is Scripture, the Bible. It is a spiritual book because the Author is a spirit, His very own beloved Son is His word which is spirit and life. Anyone reading His book must read it in the language of spirit and truth.

Man, this is so clear to me.

cp

[claypot]

Adding to Nathan's revelation.
For every man:
Genesis starts in your left ear and Revelation ends in your right.
The whole Bible will unfold in your own life.
It is your life.
Find your place.

Beserv, slow down will ya? Just kidding. Keep firing away!!!

You have a way of putting great stuff in small packages (Not that large packages are bad, No way!)

cp

[Beloved Servant]

CP...

For you...www.youtube.com/watch?v=X43XXpItGk0

For Claypot, it goes both ways.
He loves us as much as we love Him.
He sings this song (in part for the dim) to you and me, as well.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Amen bros......these things were written for our example, and if our example then that means to apply them to OUR FLESH, discerning the Spirit in these things are as the distilling of wine, the lees (sediment or elementary principles) fall to the bottom.

We start out being ruled, body, soul, and spirit, we end up being ruled, spirit, soul, and body. Blessings...

[jabcat]

Never rob Peter to pay Paul.
All Scripture is written FOR us. Not all Scripture is written TO us.

Lee

:thumbsup:

I used to believe that guys but no more. A nice saying...

I just can't see that God would write a bit for some people and then a little over here for someone else and so on. No I see all of Scripture, in some way, in my very make-up, my world, my being. I don't understand it all but when I focus on any part of Scripture I see something of me and for me in it as I see it apply to all people.
cp

Shucks bro, I believe it's more than a nice saying.  IMO, it (along with accurate context, Spirit revelation, etc. ) is part of properly dividing the Word of truth.  (I think not taking it into account can create confusion, and man, we don't need any more denominations  :laughing7:. )  I've probably seen too much scriptural abuse in my life...probably most haven't grown up in the types of "churches" I grew up in.    So anyway, I see it as all for, definitely.  All primarily to, I just personally don't think so. 

Is this primarily to you, or me?    Yesu dispatched these twelve, and charged them, saying, "You must not go ahead into a road of the pagans, and must not enter into a city of the Samaritans".  Matthew 10:12.  There are hundreds/thousands of similar scriptures...

Can we learn something, the Spirit speak to us through it, and us benefit from it?  I think so.  But should we live our lives never walking down a road of the pagans  or entering into a Samaritan city?  :thinking:  Though I believe I can garner a spiritual message from it, the scripture plainly says "Yesu... charged them [the twelve]..."