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What would be the state of religion if church was faith centered?

Started by WhiteWings, March 11, 2009, 06:21:15 PM

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WhiteWings

I don't have much respect for the history of 'the church'.
Bloodshed. Murder. Crusades and other wars. Running church like money hungry multi-national.
Twisting the message because it makes it easier to manipulate people (as support for the above)
Twisting the UR message to ET because then it was easier to assimilate pagan religions (and therefore becoming pagan itself)
Twisting the message for possibly well meant reasons.

Assume the church had lived original word without any change; without caring about consequences of any kind.
What do you think:
a] Would there be more or less problems in the world?
b] Would there more or less religious people?
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Doc

Quote from: WhiteWings on March 11, 2009, 06:21:15 PM
I don't have much respect for the history of 'the church'.
Bloodshed. Murder. Crusades and other wars. Running church like money hungry multi-national.
Twisting the message because it makes it easier to manipulate people (as support for the above)
Twisting the UR message to ET because then it was easier to assimilate pagan religions (and therefore becoming pagan itself)
Twisting the message for possibly well meant reasons.

Assume the church had lived original word without any change; without caring about consequences of any kind.
What do you think:
a] Would there be more or less problems in the world?
b] Would there more or less religious people?


If the church was entirely faith centered, there wouldn't be any religion. Religion has always been the enemy of true faith.

WhiteWings

There would still be the pagan religions.
And th main question was, and still is, would it made any difference for the history of the mankind?
1 Timothy 2:3-4  ...God our Savior;  Who will have all men to be saved...
John 12:47  And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
Romans 4:5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous ...

Doc

Quote from: WhiteWings on March 12, 2009, 07:16:42 AM
There would still be the pagan religions.
And th main question was, and still is, would it made any difference for the history of the mankind?

Quite possibly, on both counts.