Why So Much Bible?

[claypot]

I think God could have written the Bible in about 2 sentences..........Love the Lord your God with all your heart....... and Love your neighbor.

Question to all........Why do we have all the rest of the Bible? Does it really build faith or confusion? Does it make for peace among people or contention?

cp

[WhiteWings]

When there is nothing to study there is nothing to believe.
No proof of anything.
Just a one-liner.

No Christianity at all.

[pneuma]

I think God could have written the Bible in about 2 sentences..........Love the Lord your God with all your heart....... and Love your neighbor.

Question to all........Why do we have all the rest of the Bible? Does it really build faith or confusion? Does it make for peace among people or contention?

cp

Hi Clay, I guess that would depend on which "eyes" we view it with

[claypot]

I think God could have written the Bible in about 2 sentences..........Love the Lord your God with all your heart....... and Love your neighbor.

Question to all........Why do we have all the rest of the Bible? Does it really build faith or confusion? Does it make for peace among people or contention?

cp

Hi Clay, I guess that would depend on which "eyes" we view it with

Hey P man,

So good to see my mentor. I suppose with all my lunitic writings you don't want anyone to know that I owe all my beliefs to you!!!!  :laughing7: You have taught me much Brother.

My question is a serious one and one that has perplexed me for a long time. I do enjoy Scripture and I see much in it but the message is generally pretty simple and even redundant. God loves us and will get us from point A to point Z and that is great but how many times and in how many ways do I need to hear it?

I'm not being disrespectful, just curious. Am I missing something. I love a good puzzle and Scripture is a good one. I like mysteries and treasure hunts and those too are provided but I get concerned about all the frustration and confusion and perplexity caused by the emormity of it all.

cp

[claypot]

When there is nothing to study there is nothing to believe.
No proof of anything.
Just a one-liner.

No Christianity at all.

Hey WW,

Oh, I don't know WW. There is so much to believe just looking at a flower or the tinest germ cell or the vastness of the stars. These are proofs in and of themselves, don't you think? I don't know if I need a whole bunch of books written by a bunch of people over a whole bunch of time that need to be studied to the point of madness and confusion to tell me God loves me and is doing something really good for me.

What is Christianity?

cp

[sparrow]

When there is nothing to study there is nothing to believe.
No proof of anything.
Just a one-liner.

No Christianity at all.

Hey WW,

Oh, I don't know WW. There is so much to believe just looking at a flower or the tinest germ cell or the vastness of the stars. These are proofs in and of themselves, don't you think? I don't know if I need a whole bunch of books written by a bunch of people over a whole bunch of time that need to be studied to the point of madness and confusion to tell me God loves me and is doing something really good for me.

What is Christianity?

cp

CP!!!! I wish you lived next door to me.
I really, really wish that. I'm not a social person and my husband and I kind of tend to stick to ourselves.
but I would love to have you as a neighbor.

I think we have the same brain.

Dear God..
Thank you for making CP.
CP rules.
He is my friend.
love,
sparrow

Well, even if you're not my neighbor.. I'm betting that if we all each get to have our own planet, that your planet will definitely be in the same galaxy as mine.  :Sparkletooth:

:grin: :happy3: :icon_flower:

[jabcat]

CP!!!! I wish you lived next door to me.
I really, really wish that. I'm not a social person and my husband and I kind of tend to stick to ourselves.
but I would love to have you as a neighbor.

I think we have the same brain.

Dear God..
Thank you for making CP.
CP rules.
He is my friend.
love,
sparrow

Well, even if you're not my neighbor.. I'm betting that if we all each get to have our own planet, that your planet will definitely be in the same galaxy as mine.  :Sparkletooth:

Sparrow, what a nice post...your love comes through  :thumbsup:

[claypot]

Sparrow I'm married. I can't even show your post to my wife!!!!!  :mblush:

I have said similar to you and about you so I hear ya and thank you. It is nice to know when one connects as I know you and I do with so many here at this forum.

And we are 'neighbors' sis!

cp

[jabcat]

I don't think Sparrow was asking you for a date, CP  :laughing7:...think 'agape'  :happy3:

[sparrow]

I don't think Sparrow was asking you for a date, CP  :laughing7:...think 'agape'  :happy3:

oh my gosh, That made me laugh out loud!!  :laughing7:

teehee!!

you all made my day.


CP, yes, you're right we ARE neighbors.  :icon_flower:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Back to the original question........because Adam had an open book before and He still flunked the test...... :grin:

[jabcat]

I think God could have written the Bible in about 2 sentences..........Love the Lord your God with all your heart....... and Love your neighbor.

Question to all........Why do we have all the rest of the Bible? Does it really build faith or confusion? Does it make for peace among people or contention?

cp

I don't think the Bible causes confusion, I think it's our condition that causes the confusion.  Another question to add to this.  Isn't God the One that veils and reveals, all in His time?  Some allowed to see things now more than others?  Many completely blind?  I hold to the scripture, that God is working all things according to His will...there's a reason He turned all to disobedience...the end will be perfect, just as He planned it and will accomplish it.

A city...whose builder and maker IS GOD.

God's blessing, James.

[WhiteWings]

When there is nothing to study there is nothing to believe.
No proof of anything.
Just a one-liner.

No Christianity at all.

Hey WW,

Oh, I don't know WW. There is so much to believe just looking at a flower or the tinest germ cell or the vastness of the stars. These are proofs in and of themselves, don't you think?

Yes.

I don't know if I need a whole bunch of books written by a bunch of people over a whole bunch of time that need to be studied to the point of madness and confusion to tell me God loves me and is doing something really good for me.

Would you know that (love) without the books?
Besides of that God has some plan. He didn't create us in heaven so He need the long version of the Bible in that plan.
There can't be judgement/teaching/grace when there are no rules.

What is Christianity?

Several answers:
a] A religion with manmade components.
b] According to some; something wrong because we are not supposed to worship the messenger but the creator. Perhaps Yawehians would be a better name...

[firstborn888]

Sparrow I'm married. I can't even show your post to my wife!!!!!  :mblush:

I have said similar to you and about you so I hear ya and thank you. It is nice to know when one connects as I know you and I do with so many here at this forum.

And we are 'neighbors' sis!

cp

Back off CP - sparrow's MINE!!!  :laughing7:... eeerrr... except I'm married too, so... well,  but Solomon had all those, I mean uhm, well that won't work cuz sparrow's married too ... so...
I guess we can all just be friends. Friends in love.  :happy3: :bgdance:

[chuckt]

I think God could have written the Bible in about 2 sentences..........Love the Lord your God with all your heart....... and Love your neighbor.

Question to all........Why do we have all the rest of the Bible? Does it really build faith or confusion? Does it make for peace among people or contention?

cp

2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


Pro 25:2 [It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.


Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Jhn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.


Luk 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

[Taffy]

Sparrow I'm married. I can't even show your post to my wife!!!!!  :mblush:

I have said similar to you and about you so I hear ya and thank you. It is nice to know when one connects as I know you and I do with so many here at this forum.

And we are 'neighbors' sis!

cp

Back off CP - sparrow's MINE!!!  :laughing7:... eeerrr... except I'm married too, so... well,  but Solomon had all those, I mean uhm, well that won't work cuz sparrow's married too ... so...
I guess we can all just be friends. Friends in love.  :happy3: :bgdance:

ya Notice when women are mentioned..Bro Byron is about from nowhere :laughing7:

:icon_flower:

[claypot]

:cloud9: Back to the original question........because Adam had an open book before and He still flunked the test...... :grin:

Bingo. So why did God give us so much Scripture. It seems to trap us more than free us.

cp

[claypot]

I think God could have written the Bible in about 2 sentences..........Love the Lord your God with all your heart....... and Love your neighbor.

Question to all........Why do we have all the rest of the Bible? Does it really build faith or confusion? Does it make for peace among people or contention?

cp

I don't think the Bible causes confusion, I think it's our condition that causes the confusion.  Another question to add to this.  Isn't God the One that veils and reveals, all in His time?  Some allowed to see things now more than others?  Many completely blind?  I hold to the scripture, that God is working all things according to His will...there's a reason He turned all to disobedience...the end will be perfect, just as He planned it and will accomplish it.

A city...whose builder and maker IS GOD.

God's blessing, James.

Hey James. Our condition is/was known to God and He still gave us the Bible. He must have known how it would interact with our condition.

I do believe God hides much more than He reveals and I do believe He is working all out according to His will.

Scripture just seems like a test of some sort. I want to be very careful here but there seems to be more to the Bible as a whole unit than meets the eye. Can't see the forest because of the trees, comes to mind......

cp

[claypot]

I think God could have written the Bible in about 2 sentences..........Love the Lord your God with all your heart....... and Love your neighbor.

Question to all........Why do we have all the rest of the Bible? Does it really build faith or confusion? Does it make for peace among people or contention?

cp

2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

I hear ya but it just seems that after all these years we are still debating and never coming to a cohesive unit. Makes me wonder.

2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

I can see needing a manual, I'm just questioning the wisdom of its length and broadness.

Pro 25:2 [It is] the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings [is] to search out a matter.

Got to give it to God. As to playing hide and seek, He's a Master at the hiding part!

Mar 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

There are just so many ways to look at what Scripture is saying that it's hard not to make up so many traditions. Can you really blame people who see Catholoism or Lutheranism or whatever in the Bible?

Jhn 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Again, I'm not arguing for no Scriptures, just maybe a lot less.

Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.

So much though and so varied that misinterpretation on a grand scale is a certainty.

Luk 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

Just seems like too much. Even the small flock fight and argue amongst themselves mainly due to Bible interpretation.

Just my thoughts. Still thinking.

cp

[claypot]

Sparrow I'm married. I can't even show your post to my wife!!!!!  :mblush:

I have said similar to you and about you so I hear ya and thank you. It is nice to know when one connects as I know you and I do with so many here at this forum.

And we are 'neighbors' sis!

cp

Back off CP - sparrow's MINE!!!  :laughing7:... eeerrr... except I'm married too, so... well,  but Solomon had all those, I mean uhm, well that won't work cuz sparrow's married too ... so...
I guess we can all just be friends. Friends in love.  :happy3: :bgdance:

Byron, that's funny. Twill be fun to meet up 'some day'! And Taf's comment is interesting!!!!  :laughing7:

cp

[chuckt]

I hear ya but it just seems that after all these years we are still debating and never coming to a cohesive unit. Makes me wonder.

who says debating is bad in and of it self? who says we are not comming together IN CHRIST.

doctrine will never unify apart forn Christ for he IS the unity.

how boring it would be if we all one the same spiritual level.



i personally can look back and see much change in me and how i approach those that dont see eye to eye.

even 4 yrs ago comming to UR, was ilke i was still a babe, zelous and gonna set them fundies straight, guess what, IT DONT WORK LIKE THAT.

ask taffy how i was 4 yrs ago  :happy3:

I can see needing a manual, I'm just questioning the wisdom of its length and broadness.

sheesh man there are at least 18-24 other books mentioned in the bible yet not in the bible.

jasher...book of wars...burach...enoch.... :shout:

not to mention these:

http://www.thelostbooks.com/list.htm


all the books and study mean nothing without rest in Christ. :happyclap:

Ecc 12:12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books [there is] no end; and much study [is] a weariness of the flesh.

Got to give it to God. As to playing hide and seek, He's a Master at the hiding part!

maybe hes testing us and....... :icon_jokercolor:

There are just so many ways to look at what Scripture is saying that it's hard not to make up so many traditions. Can you really blame people who see Catholoism or Lutheranism or whatever in the Bible?

for mine....they ALL are needed in th plan of God...i love them ALL.

Again, I'm not arguing for no Scriptures, just maybe a lot less.

i understand, and this is proof of your growth and desire for the inner man rather than ink on paper.

Just seems like too much. Even the small flock fight and argue amongst themselves mainly due to Bible interpretation.

1Cr 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

CLV:

19 For it must be that there are sects also among you, that those also who are qualified may be becoming apparent among you.



AGAIN...i see it as part of the plan and much needed  :myahoo:

Just my thoughts. Still thinking.

dont hurt yourself......jk   :thewife: :tongue:


God bless
chuckt

ps...this dosent apply to calvinist :blum3: :declare: :pointlaugh: :laugh2:

[Nathan]

For me, some would love to have just one word given to them in which to live on . . .but others need more than a word, they need a conversation.  They need a regular conversation.  Within the conversation is the same one word . . .but the nature comes through so much more vividly during the conversation than just the one word.  The one word manifests the Truth of Christ, the conversation manifests the life in Christ.

The one word is a hand shake.  the one sentence is an embrace . . .the whole letter (Genesis to Revelation) is a marriage.

[claypot]

Chuck, your thoughts taken in. Thanks.

Question to all.....

Can you sum up what the Bible says in one or two sentences?

Now don't get technical on me. What I mean is is that I have genuinally studied the Bible for 28 years. I mean really. I'm not bragging, just a fact. After these 28 years as I sit here and type I can pretty much sum up the whole of Scripture in a few words............

There is a God who loves me. This love will save me. I am to love God with all my being (which I don't [can't] do?!), but I try, anyway, I am to love God with all my being and love people.

I even added words to make it look longer but there it is. The rest of the Bible is good reading but the confusion and other negative seem to outweigh the positive. If all is as is taught then I know I am wrong but what if we are seeing the Bible in a wrong way?

Again, my main real question is......

Can you sum up the major message of the Bible in a few sentences or words?

I'm thinking its been done before.....the 4 spiritual laws......John 3.16-17.......

I am seriously asking here so please let me know what you think.

cp

[chuckt]

Question to all.....

Can you sum up what the Bible says in one or two sentences?

one word.

LOVE.....it NEVER fails.
:Hi5:

Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.   :drummer:

the most excellent way= pursue LOVE  :bgdance:


blessings.
chuckt

[Cardinal]

For me, some would love to have just one word given to them in which to live on . . .but others need more than a word, they need a conversation.  They need a regular conversation.  Within the conversation is the same one word . . .but the nature comes through so much more vividly during the conversation than just the one word.  The one word manifests the Truth of Christ, the conversation manifests the life in Christ.

The one word is a hand shake.  the one sentence is an embrace . . .the whole letter (Genesis to Revelation) is a marriage.

:cloud9: Amen Nathan, and we all know how women (the soul) want to be courted.  :winkgrin: