Your third eye . . .

[Nathan]

Here's a web site . . .don't think it's Christian so do bear that in mind as you read this . . .but this looks like a bit of a simplistic way of explaining there is a literal eye in your head besides the two on your face.  And this one is the one that ENABLES your literal mind to "see" spiritual things of God.

see if this speaks to you.

http://www.crystalinks.com/thirdeyepineal.html

[peacemaker]

:idea2: Helps regulate the body's sleep-wake cycle, so let us REST! :OhNo: :yes: :beach:

[Molly]

wow is this how mothers see in the back of their heads? :mshock:

This is very interesting.  I was trying to do a meditation by this crazy online hypnotist for a while, but every time I tried it, I immediately fell asleep.  Then I would wake up and the tape would be over.  Who knows what he was pumping into my head while I slept.

But now I understand what he was doing--because he had us close our eyes and focus on a point in the middle of the forehead--and believe it or not I would start to see light--then I would fall asleep lol.  So that would be lining up the pineal and the pituitary, like they describe.  I guess I was generating too much melatonin to stay awake. 

But it is peculiar if this deep brain structure contains light receptors.

The Christian mystics are doing things along these lines.  But, I would want to be shown by a Christian how to use this capability, even if it is possible--because I'm not particularly interested in slipping out through any trap doors by accident lol.

That hypnotist is probably a soul snatcher and i narrowly escaped. :msealed:

[WhiteWings]

wow is this how mothers see in the back of their heads? :mshock:

Only bald mothers Molly  :laughing7:

[Nathan]

wow is this how mothers see in the back of their heads? :mshock:

This is very interesting.  I was trying to do a meditation by this crazy online hypnotist for a while, but every time I tried it, I immediately fell asleep.  Then I would wake up and the tape would be over.  Who knows what he was pumping into my head while I slept.

But now I understand what he was doing--because he had us close our eyes and focus on a point in the middle of the forehead--and believe it or not I would start to see light--then I would fall asleep lol.  So that would be lining up the pineal and the pituitary, like they describe.  I guess I was generating too much melatonin to stay awake. 

But it is peculiar if this deep brain structure contains light receptors.

The Christian mystics are doing things along these lines.  But, I would want to be shown by a Christian how to use this capability, even if it is possible--because I'm not particularly interested in slipping out through any trap doors by accident lol.

That hypnotist is probably a soul snatcher and i narrowly escaped. :msealed:

The little pamphlet entitled "quantum faith" really simplifies much of this as well.  It doesn't refer directly to the pineal gland, but it does explain how the words we speak . .and the tones we speak them in really do affect the atmosphere we live in everyday.  Charles Capps daughter wrote it . . .only cost $2.00  to order.  We've gone through about 80 of them so far . . .it is such a small little thing that packs such a big punch.

[Molly]

Mahatma Gandhi said that he read the Christian Bible every day, but he would not convert to Christianity because he had yet to find a Christian who actually followed the teachings of Jesus.  In fact, as a dedicated Bible reader it was Gandhi's position that the whole world would be the followers of Jesus, if it were not for the people who called themselves Christian.  

Institutionalized Culture Of Destruction:  Jesus condemned the ways of this world as evil and satanic, and yet people who call themselves his followers immerse the whole of their lives in it's mindset and lifestyle.   The first followers of Jesus called themselves Ebionites -- i.e., the "poor ones" -- because they knew that to be a disciple or follower of Jesus, one had to be in the world and not of it!    Was Jesus and his first followers misinformed and out of touch with reality?   Unfortunately, the thinking of most people today has been thoroughly molded by Hollywood, Madison Avenue, MTV, and our politically correct culture that immerses the vast majority of people in the darkness of ignorance -- ignorance about themselves, as well as ignorance about the life they are living.   Unbeknown to most people, institutionalized religion and institutionalized learning are mere extensions that support the tenets of the Culture of Destruction.   And while the churches may put on a quasi-religious facade -- using rhetoric that attempts to portray them in a spiritual role -- and at times they appear to take positions in opposition to the Culture of Destruction -- in truth there is only a slight degree of separation and differences.  


Those readers familiar with early Christian history know that during the first three centuries there was great strife between certain groups of believers.   Yet, in not understanding the depth of the Apostle Paul's Epistles, modern Christians generally fail to realize the source of this conflict.   What is clear in First Corinthians was that there were two classes of Christians: Those who knew only the testimony of "Christ and him crucified", and those who went beyond the exoteric doctrine of Christ which Paul referred to as "milk", and those who embraced the process of spiritual transformation and maturity and learned the Mysteries of God that Paul could not speak openly about.   "Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect," writes Paul, "yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to naught: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory" (1 Cor 2:6-7 KJV).  


The Suppressed Mind Of Natural Man: In these words Paul is warning the believers at Corinth that he can only speak about the Wisdom and Mysteries of God to those who are perfect.  Yet, the carnal believer throughout the history of the church has traditional rejected these words of the Apostle -- even rejecting the concept of perfection as heresy.   How could Paul not, when it is realized that natural man only used approximately 10% of his potential of mind, and Paul is making reference to the fact that only those people who are capable of using the other ninety percent of the mind are able to perceive and comprehend what the Bible calls the Mysteries of God.   Carnal man who knows virtually nothing of his threefold nature, simply has no means to relate to the soul and spiritual realities that Paul can only hint at in his Epistles.   Moreover, contrary to modern Christian doctrine, the Apostle does not say perfect faith -- perfect belief -- or some philosophical idea of perfection by virtue of membership in a religious group.   The idea of perfection from a biblical perspective is complete in all its parts -- and because we cling to manmade doctrines, we do not believe that man is capable of this state of perfection, which the Apostle continually speaks of, throughout his writings.


When Paul warned that men of a "natural" mind would look upon the Mysteries of God as "foolishness", he said this because we are not beings of flesh -- and we are not what we appear to be when we look upon the reflected reality of the body-vessel we presently inhabit in the mirror.   And while our true soul and spiritual reality was near impossible to even describe to people who lived 2000 years ago, our modern technology and science has made intelligent speculation more feasible from the perspective of the average person.   Quoting the article on Science Proves Religion we are presented with a reality that the vast majority of people are simply not prepared to envision.


The Universe is a Great Mind: In his 1951 textbook on quantum theory, Bohm offered some interesting speculations on the analogies between quantum processes and thought processes, thus carrying further the celebrated statement made by the astronomer James Jeans two decades earlier: "Today there is a wide measure of agreement... that the stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine"; and the statement by astronomer Arthur Eddington:  "The stuff of the universe is mind-stuff".   More recently, cyberneticist David Foster described "an intelligent universe" whose apparent concreteness is generated by cosmic data from an unknowable, organized source.   The holographic theory says that: "...our brains mathematically construct hard reality by interpreting frequencies from a dimension transcending time and space.   The brain is a hologram, interpreting a holographic universe."  What is the impact of these findings of modern science?   The reality that is being conveyed is that what we perceive as solid physical matter, is being interpreted in this manner because our brains interpret that frequency to make what we see appear concrete.   Moreover, what it also means is that we perceive only a fraction of Creation because our brains, which by virtue of the fact of their physical nature, can only detect frequencies that are within the same spectrum.   In the same way that in order to be effective, an antenna must possess the physical characteristics that enables it to receive a certain range of the frequencies that the device (radio, TV, wireless phone, etc.) is intended to operate within, our physical mind and bodies are designed to function within a certain spectrum of Creation -- and this is predicated by the fact that our physical nature is composed of the elements that are of this world.

Natural Man Uses Less Than 10% of His Mind: Just as important is the fact that we only use less than ten percent of our potential of mind which corresponds to the ten percent (physical) spectrum of frequencies with which we interact with in this world, because very few of us have ever trained and developed our minds to go beyond this natural organic limitation.   Once we begin to comprehend this fact -- and strive to overcome the three-dimensional barrier of this world -- only then can we begin to comprehend the constant biblical assertion that carnal man is blind to higher reality.

That the Bible continually warns the reader that man in his natural organic state of mind neither understands what he sees with his physical eyes -- and perceives only a very limited perception of reality -- is easily confirmed in the above statements by the modern scientist.   What this equates to is conformation of the many truths that biblical holy-men and prophets have invariably declared and warned us about with respect to the fact that what we see is not concrete -- and what we see with our physical eyes appears to us as solid matter, only because our physical brains are wired in such a way so as to interpret it in this manner.  

Fundamentally this means that what we see when we look out into the world is a very limited perception of reality, and equates to nothing more than the same ten percent of our potential of mind that we are limited to using by nature -- i.e., men and women who use less than ten percent of their potential of mind are only capable of perceiving less than ten percent of the totality of Creation and the world in which they dwell.  Yet, to our own demise, we fail to embrace the reality that men such as Martin Luther, Darwin, our many scholars and philosophers throughout the history of the world, the people who teach our children, the political and religious leaders who convey to us their very incomplete and limited religious doctrines, quasi-scientific theories, and philosophies about life, all have failed to overcome the very flaw in human reasoning that caused the Apostle Paul to both condemn the wisdom of this world as foolishness, and warn us that the people of the simple faith do not comprehend the Spiritual Gospel of Messiah/Christ!   Yet, we ignore the wisdom of the Apostle, and erroneously believe that man can attain to higher understanding while still using less than ten percent of his potential of mind -- a ten percent that only detects a very limited and suppressed spectrum of the totality of Creation.  

While the Concept of Evolution/Involution Contains Truth, Darwinism is in Error: One of the primary obstacles in our understanding of both the scriptures and life itself is seen in the fact that we embrace an outdated Darwinist perception of life -- and even people of faith who claim to ardently oppose the Theory of Evolution fail to recognize that in the reinterpretation of the Word by the fourth century Roman Church, even the modern Fundamentalist Christian views both the Bible and life from a quasi-Darwinist perspective that is totally alien to the original teachings of The Way.    Thus, in the fourth-century rape and destruction of the true people of the New Covenant, the Church of Constantine not only defiled the teachings of The Way, but molded the thinking of society along a course that naturally gave birth to men such as Darwin and the Atheist Manifesto that pervades our culture today.

The problem is seen in the fact that we have permitted ourselves to become anchored to an erroneous perception of Creation -- and while Darwin and his theory of evolution remains the holy grail of the Atheist and Secular Humanist who are the architects and guardians of our modern-day culture, even the more enlightened scientist readily sees the flaw in this very mechanical and limited perception of life.   In the words of Niles Eldredge of the American Museum of Natural History: "The old explanation that the fossil record was inadequate is in itself an inadequate explanation."   Why?   The fossil record is inadequate because everything that we see and perceive in this realm is directly caused by patterns of force being exerted upon matter from beyond the bounds of this three-dimensional world in which we presently dwell.

CONTINUED BELOW

[Molly]

Einstein experienced shock when he first came into contact with the new reality of atomic physics, and wrote in his autobiography:  "All my attempts to adapt the theoretical foundation of physics to this [new type of] knowledge failed completely.   It was as if the ground had been pulled out from under one, with no firm foundation to be seen anywhere, upon which one could have built".   In much the same fashion, the European physicist Niels Bohr stated that "...The great extension of our experience in recent years has brought to light the insufficiency of our simple mechanical conceptions and, as a consequence, has shaken the foundation on which the customary interpretation of observation was based."  These "...mechanical conceptions" make reference to Darwin and the theory of evolution.

Natural Man Incapable of Comprehending Creation or the Bible: In the first two chapters of Paul's First Epistle to the Corinthians the Apostle very clearly teaches that there is the "testimony" of Messiah/Christ that is preached to the multitudes of people, and the "mysteries" of the Gospel that cannot even be contemplated by those believers who have yet to be transformed by the Spirit, and are still of a natural organic state of mind.   While this reality was difficult for men such as Martin Luther and Darwin to envision, this is no longer the case in our present time.   Luckily, our modern scientific advances have provided us with great insight into understanding what Paul was attempting to convey to the mind of the still carnal believer.   Once we are able to comprehend that we are dwelling in a non-mechanical "...holographic universe" that is now being described as being of an intelligent nature -- i.e., and appears to us in every way as "...a great thought" -- only then can we begin to truly understand the universal plight of man that Yeahus/Jesus came to free us from.   Further, what the Bible portrays as Satan -- both collectively and as a singular being who opposes the Heavenly Kingdom -- can more appropriately be portrayed as the power or force which bonds and shackles us to this world through the organic physical body/vessels we are presently residing in. 

Looking In The Wrong Direction: In the realization that traditional scientific inquiry can never provide the answers to life, thoughtful physicists in greater number have begun to notice the curious parallels between their own findings and ancient mystical descriptions of reality.   These similarities were pointed out in the book, The Tao Of Physics, by Fritjof Capra, and The Dancing Wu Li Masters by Gary Zukav.   Zukav's book takes its title from the Chinese expression for physics, wu li, which he translates as "patterns of organic energy", and writes: "Bell's theorem not only suggests that the world is quite different than it seems, it demands it.   Something very exciting is happening.   Physicists have 'proved' rationally that our rational ideas about the world in which we live are profoundly deficient".


Bell's theorem, which was proposed in 1964 by J.S. Bell, a physicist working in Switzerland, was first confirmed experimentally in 1972.  Physicist Henry Stapp, in a 1975 federal report called it the most "profound discovery of science".   Bell's theorem succeeds in exhibiting the bizarre nature of the subatomic world.   Experiments show that if paired particles which are identical twins in their polarity fly apart, and the polarity of one is changed by an experimenter, the polarity of the other particle changes instantaneously.   Even though they appear to us as separate, the particles remain mysteriously connected regardless of the fact that there is no physical connection.   The problem is that the mind of man in it's natural organic state is simply incapable of perceiving the far-reaching ramifications of this great truth -- and even less prepared to comprehend the results of the intertwining connections that are maintained not only between individuals and groups of people, but between the past, the present, and future.

Matter - The Blemish Created by Colliding And Interacting Fields Of Energy: In his book, Urbausteine der Materie, physicist Walter Thirring wrote about matter that modern physics "has put our thinking about the essence of matter in a different context.   It has taken our gaze from the visible - the particles - to the underlying entity, the field.   The presence of matter is merely a disturbance of the perfect state of the field at that place; something accidental, one could almost say, a 'blemish'.   Accordingly, there are no simple laws describing the forces between elementary particles... Order and symmetry must be sought in the underlying field."

Stop reading!  Do not unconsciously skim over these words of the modern scientist that confront you with a universal reality that if we fail to understand, enslaves each and every person who dwells in this world today!   These words represent such a great revelation to the mind of modern man whose cultural mindset totally alienates him from his own true reality, that I believe every reader should ask themselves what this statement by a respected physicist means to them?   What is the relationship of these words to your present life?   How do they impact what you believe?   Once it is understood that our lives are not only controlled, but predestined prior to our birth into this physical world by the combination of interweaving fabric of law, mind and spirit that comprises the makeup of the elements of the field that surrounds us -- acting as a filter that colors both our vision and perceptions of life -- elements that cause us to be either a victim or predator, successful or unsuccessful, lucky, fortunate or a total failure in life -- are all the result of the pattern of organic energy the interacts between a person's field and every aspect of their lives.   Moreover, true change, development and transformation can only be brought about when one begins to alter the source of the events and personal agenda of one's life that is found embedded in what the scientist describes as the field.

Physical Body Is Created Where Opposing Fields Of Mind Interact: What the physicist is telling you is that your physical body that you observe in the mirror – the physical form that you use to present yourself to the world around you -- is in fact caused by a disturbance in your own, personal field -- and it is this field that you do not see, that causes what is described to be a blemish -- in this realm that we perceive through the eyes that has been formed out of this same blemish -- and thus, our physical senses and reasoning which is founded upon this blemish within the field of our true self, is only capable of perceiving and comprehending from the reality and perspective of the blemish from which is was formed.   Again, if what we observe in this world as being concrete, is not really concrete, but merely a frequency that our brain interprets in a concrete manner, then we begin to perceive the means to open the mind the other 90%, which is accomplished when we begin to allow ourselves to develop our resources of mind in order to permit the mind to detect the full spectrum of frequencies that make up the totality of all of Creation.   Can we do this?   Both the Bible and the holy men and women of the past convey to us that an enlightened vision and understanding of life is not only possible, but it is our eventual destiny.   Thus, the problem is seen in the fact that man's true reality is neither addressed, acknowledged, or acted upon in any intelligent manner by our politically correct culture that controls the heartbeat of society today.   From our modern scientific perspective, the Darwinist perception of Creation amounts to little more than junk-science, while the findings of genuine science has become as a cult that is not even discussed in our modern educational systems.   To the detriment of our own children, what we teach instead is secular dogma -- anti-religious secular dogma -- that has absolutely no basis in fact.   

If we could but for a brief moment gaze at this world from the perspective of higher reality, what we would immediately realize is that what science is learning about Creation today was in fact elementary to the eyes and understanding of the Hebrew-Christian visionary of the past.   Thus, the great dilemma: It is one thing through scientific endeavor to become aware that these other dimensions exist, and become cognizant of the impact they have upon this world -- and still quite another to move in and out and explore these other realms of existence.   Moreover, all these scientific theories that we have newly discovered today, are not new at all -- and have been well established in the scriptures and the writings of the prophets and visionaries since the dawn of time.   How can this be, you will ask?   Simple!   If we are to even begin to come to terms with our own higher reality and purpose of life, it is absolutely important for us to recognize the fact that man does not need a technically advanced society in order to explore the realms of Higher Mind -- i.e., he only needs his mind -- then it will also be realized that our world of modern technology can in fact be detrimental to our own development, because it has the ability to greatly distract man in his search for the answers to Life.   What this ultimately means is that the wisdom of the ancients could very well be superior to the modern philosophy that our universities teach today.   In fact, if man could see the wonders of Creation clearly, he would quickly realize that the supposed conflict between science and religion is superficial, and is nothing more than the result of ignorance with regard to both the true nature of religion and scientific fact.   

http://beingoflight.brotherofyeshua.com/ignorance.htm

[Molly]

Although few are willing to admit it, and fewer still understand it, this statement has been proven by modern physics--


16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

--Col 1


He is...the field.

[Nathan]

I seriously believe that we are a result of an overall plan that started with Adam and Christ atoned and we now manifest.  We are being led back to our origin where all life began before any curse was decreed.  This whole thing is not about a belief or doctrine . . .God is just using "that" as a tool to get us to respond to a greater call from the invisible throne room . . .that we see ourselves in our original state, before sin began. That we return to the garden, to the realm of the spirit where dominion never left, but man did.  That we to can enguage in this creative atmosphere that was established by the spirit that moved upon the face of the waters . . .where all it took was a command for a thought to become a reality, simply by calling it out.

It is pure faith at it's core.  Do you really see the whole world being saved?  Then call it out . . ."let there be light! . . ."

[Molly]

where all it took was a command for a thought to become a reality, simply by calling it out.

We are there now.  We just don't understand our great power.  Could we transform this world overnight?  Yes.

If everyone would take captive their own thoughts and bring them into submission to the mind of Christ, everything would change in a heartbeat.

But, right now, we are like a 5 year old with a loaded gun, firing wildly and un-consiously in all directions.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Awesome, Molly....you come up with some really good material. I know what we see is not really concrete; I got to experience that when I was first saved. Matter is just slowed down Spirit. Quicken means to vibrate, and although I sure don't mean it in the New Age sense, Spirit vibrates faster; probably faster than the speed of light.

We are quickened, or speeded up so that we can perceive thru the mind of Christ that is Spirit, the things of the Spirit, ie. being translated out of the Kingdom of darkness (darkness means ignorance, ie. the ignorance of the carnal mind about the things of the Spirit) and into the Kingdom of light, ie. the mind of Christ.

Fasting and seeking God breaks the control of the flesh over us, and the Spirit quickens us more. I experienced this phenomenal quickening when I fasted on carrots and water for 32 days when I found out my mother had cancer. It is hard to explain, but I was shocked to find that you can literally draw your life (life as in the force or strength of natural man) from the Spirit of God. I believe this is what was happening to Moses on His 40 day fasts on the mount of God. Blessings.....

[Nathan]

where all it took was a command for a thought to become a reality, simply by calling it out.

We are there now.  We just don't understand our great power.  Could we transform this world overnight?  Yes.

If everyone would take captive their own thoughts and bring them into submission to the mind of Christ, everything would change in a heartbeat.

But, right now, we are like a 5 year old with a loaded gun, firing wildly and un-consiously in all directions.

Absolutely and dead on Molly . . . I see the exact same as you.  May we now begin calling out the sons of God . . .that these 5-year old religious kids grow into the maturity of a bride who can lay down her own desires for that of her groom . . .are we truly married to Christ?  Or do we agree to the marriage so that we can gain the power of the name for our own benefit?  

Zechariah 4:7
Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.

[Molly]

If you guys could indulge me for a bit--something I've been meditating on--

The original modern scientists, Isaac Newton et al, were able to describe a very mechanistic world mathematically.  They were able to describe the relationships between two objects in terms of the laws of gravity and cause and effect and describe them mathematically, as inversely proportional to the distance between the objects and so forth.  This gave rise to man's control over his physical world in a way not seen before.  It also condemned man to a very mechanistic and carnal view of his world which is reinforced by the reality he 'sees.'  If I let go of  this pencil, it will drop to the ground and its behavior can be perfectly described--from what direction it will move in to how fast it will move as a function of its own physical properties.

This is the first level of reality.  It is the carnal mind of man.  And, it has given man great confidence in himself and his own abilities.  If I can predict something, I am like God.  If I can describe something that will always happen in the same way, I have discovered the laws of God.

In the last century, this view of matter started to fall apart as we started looking at smaller and smaller particles of matter.  As the article describes, physicists started realizing something strange was going on that wasn't predictable.  Heisenberg described a universe in which the observer of an experiment was changing the outcome of the experiment just by the nature of his observance of it.  This he called 'the uncertainty principle' in all observations.  This was seen on the atomic level.  On a more massive scale, scientists began to realize that although they could accurately describe how two bodies would interact, like the earth and the moon, and could describe it mathematically, they really had no idea what was causing this force they called gravity.

As noted above, some scientists began to postulate gravity as some kind of change in the field around the bodies and caused by these bodies, a bending of space if you will, and that what we were seeing as gravity was really just these bodies moving through a warped field. In other words, their very presence bent the space around them.  Others called what we see as concrete objects a blemish in the field, a bump in space, if you will.

If we were to picture the field as a fabric, and everything concrete within the field as something pushing the fabric up or down, then we can begin to see how these bumps in the fabric would be the anomaly, not the fabric itself.  To those of us who could only see the bumps, (carnal mind), it would look like the bunps are the reality.   But, to those who can see the field (mind of Christ), it is the field that is the reality. 

Thus, to the extent that we become part of the fabric, we cease to be a bump in the fabric, causing a 'blemish' in it, and exerting an unholy force on the other bumps.  That is,-- our highest destiny is to become in such total alignment with the fabric, that we are indistinguishable from it.



4Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

5And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

--Isa 40

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Wow Molly, I had the same thought as your scripture before I got to it. I can see it! Blessings.....

[Zeek]

enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nKSq2tV1kE&feature=PlayList&p=619269F9476CE4B5&index=0

7 part series.

hope the link works

[Molly]

Ok, now, moving along a little further with this wildly popular theory, let's say that field by which all things consist, by which all things are held together,  is the mind of Christ, and we are bumps in that field.

So, in our bumpiness, in our carnal minds, we are a slave to the bumpiness which is sin.  We are kicking against the pricks, pushing against the fabric.  We are a slave in that we are constrained to stay by place and time, sunk into the world, as a blemish in the field, and that is what sin is.  We are literally a slave to sin, in other words.  And, through our carnal eyes, we just see the bumps, not the field.  So we look around and see the bumpiness of others, and this causes strife with our brothers.  Hey look at your bumpiness.  But, we see only the bumpiness of others because we are focusing on the bumps in the fabric instead of the fabric itself.

Matthew 7:4
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

The beam in our own eye is our own bumpiness.

This is what Christ is releasing us from.

So as the physicists have changed their focus from the bodies within space to space itself, that is the field, so should we.

Now consider this--if we have become so aligned with the field, with the mind of Christ, such that we are a level plain with the fabric itself, we are now released --

from time--

3And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

4And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

--Mark 9

and space--

Acts 8:39
And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

--Acts 8



And we are able to move instantly throughout the entire field as the LORD would send us, appearing and disappearing as the Spirit moves us, because our appearance as bumpiness is no longer sin, but the will of God.



31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.


39Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

40And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode.

--John 10

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: I see it as the bump not being sin, but the BODY of sin, ie. our flesh. If we have a glorified body where corruption has swallowed up corruption, then we would be one with the "field" on all counts, and then able to transcend time and space? Blessings....

[Molly]

Yes, exactly, better said..---

But, you see, Philip was not dead when he was translated [raptured] from one city to another.

And, neither was Jesus when he walked invisibly through the crowd that wished to kill him.

[Molly]

29The people of the land have used oppression, and exercised robbery, and have vexed the poor and needy: yea, they have oppressed the stranger wrongfully.

30And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.

31Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD.

--Eze 22



He looks for someone who will stand in the gap and finds none.

What is the gap?

Obviously it is a discontinuity between man and God. 

We know Moses stood in the gap, before God on behalf of Israel.

Could we think of it also in terms of the field we have been describing?

If the space between two bodies (earth and moon, for instance) is warped by those bodies, this creates a discontinuity that repels as well as attracks, keeping them a fixed distance from each other, always separated by space.   Is that space the gap?

And, if one could stand there, on the field itself between the two bodies,--the mind of Christ whose only apparent distortion is caused by the bodies themselves-- could he make a bridge between one body and the other by relating them both to the field itself?



Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

[Molly]

1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

4Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.

5He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

6Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

7Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

15Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

17And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

23But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

--Gal 3

[Molly]

Faith is the 'stuff,' the substance and the evidence, the blossomed seed,  that relates us to the field--the mind of Christ.

[Cardinal]

Yes, exactly, better said..---

But, you see, Philip was not dead when he was translated [raptured] from one city to another.

And, neither was Jesus when he walked invisibly through the crowd that wished to kill him.

No, but Phillip might have been dead to self by that point. It is given unto men to die once, then the resurrection. No one said it had to be a literal death. Blessings....

[Molly]

Yes, exactly, better said..---

But, you see, Philip was not dead when he was translated [raptured] from one city to another.

And, neither was Jesus when he walked invisibly through the crowd that wished to kill him.

No, but Phillip might have been dead to self by that point. It is given unto men to die once, then the resurrection. No one said it had to be a literal death. Blessings....

ah, yes!  It could be.  I was always afraid to die to self.  I imagined it meant being 'swallowed up' until I disappeared.  But, that isn't what it is, is it?  It is death that is swallowed up, and limitations, and all the bad stuff that traps us in the fabric, in one spot, unable to get free, victims of our own bumpiness.  And, when that happens, death to self, we are then able to be ourselves, the unique one he made us to be--that's the victory in Christ.

God made me my own unique person because he loves uniqueness, he loves the detail in his universe, --he has such a big mind--containing every little detail down to the hairs on our heads which contain our own DNA, unlike any other person who ever lived.

He is amazing, isn't he?  Dying to self means nothing other than to be free.

James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

[sparrow]

ah, yes!  It could be.  I was always afraid to die to self.  I imagined it meant being 'swallowed up' until I disappeared.  But, that isn't what it is, is it?  It is death that is swallowed up, and limitations, and all the bad stuff that traps us in the fabric, in one spot, unable to get free, victims of our own bumpiness.  And, when that happens, death to self, we are then able to be ourselves, the unique one he made us to be--that's the victory in Christ.

God made me my own unique person because he loves uniqueness, he loves the detail in his universe, --he has such a big mind--containing every little detail down to the hairs on our heads which contain our own DNA, unlike any other person who ever lived.

He is amazing, isn't he?  Dying to self means nothing other than to be free.

James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

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WOW.

Molly....

That.
was.
awesome.

Reading what you just wrote was like a little lightning bolt of electricity straight to my heart! (ok that sounds scary, but it was a good thing!)  :laughing7:

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[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Amen Molly.....good post.....you're on fire tonight, girl!  :thumbsup: