What is Jesus? Spirit or flesh?

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: I believer you reFormer and Amen. I'm not sure I would have believed any of this, if I had not experienced it at the Lord's hand.

One time my friend and I were going to witness (we thought) to her sister. We got in her car to leave, and in broad daylight, we both saw black forms jump up out of the ground and land on the hood of her car, with an audible loud thump. We just sat there, stunned for a moment. It was obvious that it was to try to scare us out of going, which brings up the question of, how did they know?

One other time, I sat outside in the car with her daughter, waiting for my friend as she witnessed to another family member. The same thing happened only this time we didn't see it, but it shook the car. I did see, what looked like a grey mist type of thing, fly out of the house right before this happened. They come in all shapes and sizes, that's for sure.

And Amen Sheila; His people perish for lack of knowledge. The dust that is upon the feet is what is being washed off by the water of the Word which brings deliverance. The rebellious live in a dry land, ie. one with no foot washing.

And cp, you are exactly right on one level. We are all as gentiles getting our hearts circumcised that we might become the true circumcision of God. Blessings....

[claypot]

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

That last sentence says that this Spirit dwelling in us will quicken our mortal bodies. :mshock:



"quicken" [our mortal bodies] [rom8]
G2227
ζωοποιέω
zōopoieō
dzo-op-oy-eh'-o
From the same as G2226 and G4160; to (re-) vitalize (literally or figuratively): - make alive, give life, quicken.

Then this mortal shall put on immortality.

cp

[Molly]

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

That last sentence says that this Spirit dwelling in us will quicken our mortal bodies. :mshock:



"quicken" [our mortal bodies] [rom8]
G2227
ζωοποιέω
zōopoieō
dzo-op-oy-eh'-o
From the same as G2226 and G4160; to (re-) vitalize (literally or figuratively): - make alive, give life, quicken.

Then this mortal shall put on immortality.

cp

Yes, but it sounds like--from the wording--that our mortal bodies are being quickened--NOW.



Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.



11 And we know this time, that the hour is now, that we rise from sleep; for now is our health near(er), than when we believed. [Wycliff]

[claypot]

  interesting asides about feet;

  the earth is the footstool of God

   the seed of the serpent will bruise the heel of the woman's

seed...and the woman's seed will crush the head of the serpent

under it's heel.

   Jesus feet annointed...

   our feet get dirty from walking about in the earth

   even with sandals on.

  disciples instructed to 'shake the dust from their feet.".when

  leaving a place the Good News was rejected

  Jesus has to wash our feet..or we have no part in HIM.

    thy word is a lamp unto my feet

Rev 3;10  - I will make them come and fall down at your feet,

   and acknowledge that I have loved you.

I like that summary. Thanks S.

disciples instructed to 'shake the dust from their feet.

I think of all the times I've had to 'shake' myself back to reality. I physically shook myself and get a chill when narrowly avoiding some evil yet I was also 'shaking' my mind back on track as it were. This is a good example of how spirit and body and soul are one.

the seed of the serpent will bruise the heel of the woman's seed

I have most definitely been bruised by bad thoughts (serpent seeds) which led to bad judgements which led to bad physical actions. Again, a good portrait of spirit, soul and body at work together.

cp

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: We ARE being quickened NOW. That's what happens every time you receive a revelation by His Spirit. We are being translated out of the kingdom of darkness (the carnal mind) and into the kingdom of light (the mind of Christ). That which is quickened or made life in us, becomes part of Christ being formed in us, just as a baby, so too is He formed in the womb of our soul. Blessings...

[Taffy]

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

That last sentence says that this Spirit dwelling in us will quicken our mortal bodies. :mshock:



"quicken" [our mortal bodies] [rom8]
G2227
ζωοποιέω
zōopoieō
dzo-op-oy-eh'-o
From the same as G2226 and G4160; to (re-) vitalize (literally or figuratively): - make alive, give life, quicken.

Then this mortal shall put on immortality.

cp

Yes, but it sounds like--from the wording--that our mortal bodies are being quickened--NOW.



Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.



11 And we know this time, that the hour is now, that we rise from sleep; for now is our health near(er), than when we believed. [Wycliff]

:thumbsup:

yes Molly...moving from DEATH to Life.....NOW :icon_flower:

[Zeek]

 :grin: :bgdance: :bgdance:

[Molly]

  interesting asides about feet;

  the earth is the footstool of God

   the seed of the serpent will bruise the heel of the woman's

seed...and the woman's seed will crush the head of the serpent

under it's heel.

   Jesus feet annointed...

   our feet get dirty from walking about in the earth

   even with sandals on.

  disciples instructed to 'shake the dust from their feet.".when

  leaving a place the Good News was rejected

  Jesus has to wash our feet..or we have no part in HIM.

    thy word is a lamp unto my feet

Rev 3;10  - I will make them come and fall down at your feet,

   and acknowledge that I have loved you.

I like that summary. Thanks S.

disciples instructed to 'shake the dust from their feet.

I think of all the times I've had to 'shake' myself back to reality. I physically shook myself and get a chill when narrowly avoiding some evil yet I was also 'shaking' my mind back on track as it were. This is a good example of how spirit and body and soul are one.

the seed of the serpent will bruise the heel of the woman's seed

I have most definitely been bruised by bad thoughts (serpent seeds) which led to bad judgements which led to bad physical actions. Again, a good portrait of spirit, soul and body at work together.

cp

Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.


1 Corinthians 15:25
For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

[claypot]

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

That last sentence says that this Spirit dwelling in us will quicken our mortal bodies. :mshock:



"quicken" [our mortal bodies] [rom8]
G2227
ζωοποιέω
zōopoieō
dzo-op-oy-eh'-o
From the same as G2226 and G4160; to (re-) vitalize (literally or figuratively): - make alive, give life, quicken.

Then this mortal shall put on immortality.

cp

Yes, but it sounds like--from the wording--that our mortal bodies are being quickened--NOW.

IMO They are. Molly I just wrote somewhere else how Scripture is alive and working right now in every person and in every way. Everything in Scripture is happening now. It is a living thing doing its work even as we post.

cp

[Molly]

We are his feet.  :mshock:


John 13:14
If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Yes we are. The head was birthed, "crowning" over 2000 years ago. It took 2 days for the feet to be birthed; we are the generation slated to walk Him around (UPRIGHT/RESURRECTED) on the earth again. Blessings....

[sheila]

  Yep!!

[Molly]

When we have, through him, put all our enemies under our feet--we become transparent to God. :mshock:



24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

--1 Cor 15

[claypot]

Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.


1 Corinthians 15:25
For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

Thanks for the encouragement and reminder Molly. The Christ in me, the Hope in me sure does give me power to live from moment to moment. I'm not sure about nothing hurting me but maybe God is talking about the new me, the Christ man, the new man I am becoming. The serpent will not hurt that man, again anyway!!!!

Whatever is in people that we call Divine will never stop working until the enemies of a mans household are defeated completely. This is my Hope.

cp

[claypot]

:cloud9: Yes we are. The head was birthed, "crowning" over 2000 years ago. It took 2 days for the feet to be birthed; we are the generation slated to walk Him around (UPRIGHT/RESURRECTED) on the earth again. Blessings....

Man, Card, where do you come up with these things? You talk to God or what?! That is something I will dwell on as I run about my business today. I've watch all 11 of my kids do the crowning thing and, for an emotionless kind of a guy, I actually got very emotional just when the crowning took place. Your imagery has stuck in my cranium. Thanks!

cp

[Molly]

We are meant to be vessels, quickened bodies, filled with God. :mshock:


1 Corinthians 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: CP, normally (not as much the last year of sickness I've been trying to throw off me) I am thinking about scripture and talking to God about it, every minute nearly of every day, even if I can only do it in my mind as I'm about other tasks that require my attention. I only study now as He leads me to, but I meditate on the Word all the time, it's become second nature to me. I was blessed in the beginning of my walk as He spoke to me concerning what this generation has literally been born for, and I have walked in the earnest expectation of a creature that wants to see creation set free, ever since. Blessings...

And Molly......YES WE ARE..... :thumbsup:

[reFORMer]

While all creation and we with the firstfruit of the spirit also are in travail that mature heirs of God, spirit, soul and body would manifest, there are sometimes other things on the sidelines for now.  Whether to oppose or be led by, people are looking for God's mature sons to be manifest when the victory that overcomes the world and the devil is the seed of woman that crushes the serpents head.  Not something mature, but an egg, which is exclusively a female form:  that is what God-in-the-flesh begins as.  He is Immanuel Incarnate, now hidden in the belly of the bride.

"No one at any time hates his own flesh, but is nurturing and cherishing it, according as Christ also the ecclesia, for we are members of His body, of his flesh and of his bones." (Ephesians 5:20-30)

[sheila]

    I create something new...a mere woman shall encompass

    a man.    encompass= embrace,surround

[Cardinal]

Not something mature, but an egg, which is exclusively a female form:  that is what God-in-the-flesh begins as. 

:cloud9: It never ceases to amaze me, the things you can overlook or not "get", that are there in black and white. It never dawned on me that the "seed" of the woman was the egg. DUH, LOL.....thanks for this. Blessings.....

[Taffy]

Not something mature, but an egg, which is exclusively a female form:  that is what God-in-the-flesh begins as. 

:cloud9: It never ceases to amaze me, the things you can overlook or not "get", that are there in black and white. It never dawned on me that the "seed" of the woman was the egg. DUH, LOL.....thanks for this. Blessings.....

It never ceases to amaze me, the things you can overlook or not "get", that are there in black and white.

why should you be exclusive :cloud9:


:icon_flower:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: Yeah bro, that's why I said it never ceases to amaze me...... :laughing7: as in, this is not the first time...... :grin:

[Taffy]

:cloud9: Yeah bro, that's why I said it never ceases to amaze me...... :laughing7: as in, this is not the first time...... :grin:

:icon_flower:
Ya mean its been more than ONCE... :icon_king: :laughing7:

shucks,  For mes  I lost count... :icon_flower:

:HeartThrob:

[Cardinal]

 :cloud9: And again, I say, DUH...... :laughing7:

[Taffy]

:cloud9: And again, I say, DUH...... :laughing7:

:icon_flower:
Well sis Forgive me for mine if I say *** double Duh*** :icon_king:...


:HeartThrob:
time for beddies this side of the Pond...catch ya the morrow :icon_flower:


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